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00:00So lovely to see you all!
00:03Hello, hello, hi!
00:05Thank you very much for being here.
00:07Good evening.
00:08You're all very welcome to the show.
00:09Such a great show tonight.
00:11I tell you, I couldn't be more excited
00:13if I was Ross Kemp on Celebrity Traitors.
00:17Good luck.
00:19And singing for us tonight, look over there,
00:21it's Suede!
00:23Yeah.
00:25They'll be singing their track,
00:27dancing with the Europeans.
00:29But first, on my sofa tonight,
00:31this comedian and sitcom star
00:32won a whopping 64 Daytime Emmy Awards
00:36with a hugely successful talk show,
00:38broke records with a star-studded Oscars selfie,
00:40and as Dory inviting Nemo,
00:42she told us all to just keep swimming.
00:44It is a warm first-time welcome
00:46to Ellen DeGeneres!
00:48I know!
00:51Thank you!
00:54So good to see you.
00:55Oh!
00:57Oh!
00:57Have I seen you?
00:58Oh, the Gemma family!
01:01I know!
01:03This marvelline actor broke onto the scene in Humans
01:07and shot the famous Astrid in the smash hit
01:09Crazy Rich Asians.
01:11Now she brings us the heartbreaking drama,
01:13Josephine.
01:13It's another first-time welcome
01:15to Gemma Chan!
01:19Oh!
01:21Oh!
01:23Oh!
01:24Oh!
01:24Oh!
01:25Oh!
01:26Oh!
01:26Oh!
01:26Oh!
01:28Oh
01:29This Irish star made his laugh and
01:31in Bruges cry in the banties of Inna Sharon
01:33and say,
01:34that's Colin Farrell in The Penguin.
01:36Now,
01:37he's running the Dublin Marathon with his friend
01:39and disability campaigner,
01:40Emma Fogarty in the documentary,
01:42The Slightest Touch.
01:43Always a pleasure to welcome Colin Farrell!
01:48There he is!
01:50Hello, Sworden.
01:52Good morning is W pon tell.
01:53Right down here.
01:54There you go.
01:58And he's the two-time Oscar and Bachelor-winning director and writer behind films like The
02:03Iconic Pulp Fiction, Django Unchained, Inglorious Bastards, and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
02:09His latest creation is a swashbuckling West End play, The Puffin J Cavalier, please welcome
02:14the great Quentin Tarantino!
02:17Here he comes!
02:20Hello!
02:21How are you?
02:22How are you?
02:22How are you?
02:23There you go!
02:29Oh, lovely to see you all!
02:33I know.
02:34You picked a good night.
02:35You picked a good night.
02:36Welcome back to Quentin and Colin.
02:38First time welcome to Gemma.
02:40First time welcome to Ellen.
02:41Hello.
02:42Hello.
02:42I'm so pleased you're here.
02:44And I don't want this to sound unfriendly in any way, but why are you here?
02:49I have nothing going on.
02:51I miss being on TV so I thought I would just come on.
02:54Great!
02:56And of course the big news is you now live amongst us.
03:00You're in the UK.
03:01I live here now.
03:02Yeah.
03:03I love it.
03:05And so, who knows what's up?
03:08Do you live in a farm?
03:09Well, we first moved to the Cotswolds, so we have a farm and we live in the Cotswolds,
03:13but then we have a place here as well.
03:16So when we want to be on the farm and have farm life, we have that.
03:20And then when we want to see people with teeth, we come here.
03:24That's a joke.
03:27They have teeth.
03:28Yeah.
03:28Bernie.
03:29Bernie crosses outside your house.
03:30Yeah.
03:30We go home tomorrow and it's like, what happened?
03:34Well, we're happy to have you.
03:35And here's the thing.
03:36Gemma Chan has a connection, quite an odd connection, to Colin Farrell.
03:40Oh.
03:40Do you know this?
03:41No.
03:41It's quite convoluted.
03:43Oh, let's do it then.
03:44It's live television.
03:45All right.
03:46Buckle up.
03:47Well, I have a rescue cat called Mr Kitty, who's five years old from Puglia.
03:52He has a short stubby tail.
03:53He had an accident.
03:55God is in the details.
03:56We've got a picture of Mr Kitty.
03:58Oh, there he is.
03:59There he is.
04:00There he is.
04:01Oh, he looks like he did some MDMA.
04:07That looks like an Edward Keene painting.
04:09That looks good.
04:12Oh, my God.
04:13I wouldn't go to sleep if that cat was in the house.
04:17He's a sweetheart.
04:18He's a very sweet boy.
04:19Anyway, he has terrible balance, and he had an accident and he hurt his leg,
04:22and he was maybe going to lose that leg.
04:24But we managed to get hold of Noel Fitzpatrick, the super vet.
04:28Oh, lovely Noel, yes.
04:28Who saved the leg and gave him a hip replacement.
04:30But Noel Fitzpatrick, I've heard, is only a vet because he was an aspiring actor,
04:35but he lost out on a role to you in Bally Casangels.
04:37In Bally Casangels?
04:38That's right.
04:39Indirectly, thanks to you, Mr Kitty has his leg.
04:41You're very, very welcome.
04:41You're very, very welcome.
04:42Wow, thanks.
04:51And now, Ellen, you do know Colin Farrell.
04:54I do know Colin.
04:55Yeah, Colin's been on the show many times.
04:57Like, you've been on Ellen's show more than you've been on this,
04:58and that's a lot.
04:59How many times...
05:00And we've never kissed, you and I, but we'll get to that later.
05:03But on this one?
05:04How many times?
05:0510?
05:0515?
05:06You've been on, like, I'd say 15 times you were on the show.
05:09Yeah.
05:09And the kissing.
05:10What's the thing about the kissing?
05:11What?
05:11I've no idea.
05:13What is the thing about the kissing?
05:14What are you talking about?
05:15Well, we've got clips.
05:17We've got...
05:17This is...
05:19Ellen meeting Colin on the show, and a similar thing seems to happen each time.
05:26I don't know what to say.
05:28I don't know what to say.
05:29I don't know what to say.
05:29I feel like maybe we should swap places.
05:31Am I in...
05:32I'm a third wheeling here.
05:33The first guy who was drunk, Colin, was a lot less shy than sober.
05:37Colin came out for the kiss like this.
05:39Were you drunk that first time?
05:41Oh, hell yeah.
05:42Really?
05:42I was always drunk.
05:44No, you were...
05:45Or hungover.
05:45Which is kind of a...
05:46I thought you were sober just about every...
05:48Since I've known you.
05:50Not then.
05:50No.
05:51Well, I don't know how it started.
05:53It was just a mutual attraction.
05:55Then it...
05:56You grabbed to the back of my head, Ellen.
05:57I think we saw...
05:59Yeah.
05:59I have breath mints here.
06:02That's...
06:02Just in case.
06:04Oh, wow.
06:05Wow.
06:05Yeah.
06:06When those glasses are all empty.
06:07I guess I'll start with the martini, then.
06:11Oh, it didn't happen.
06:12Yeah, it was just organic.
06:14Quick idea.
06:15Were you ever on The Ellen Show?
06:17I was never asked.
06:19I don't know why that is.
06:21I have...
06:21No, no, no, no.
06:22I don't mean it like that.
06:23No, I know.
06:25As we know, there are producers that bring you people.
06:28Yeah, yeah, yeah.
06:28And I don't know why you were on this.
06:29I actually...
06:30Yeah, I mean...
06:31I was always kind of hoping to be on your show.
06:33I don't know...
06:34Well, I'm so glad we're meeting now.
06:35I don't know why you wouldn't have been, and I...
06:37Let's look into this.
06:39Yeah.
06:39Yeah, yeah, yeah.
06:40Now I'm angry.
06:42It might have been the kissing.
06:44We don't know.
06:45One of your routines in the early part of your career
06:48was one of my favourite acting little set pieces
06:51where you play the flight attendant.
06:53Uh-huh.
06:54All right, at the end of the flight.
06:55Bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, goodbye, bye-go,
06:56goodbye, bye-bye, bye-bye, see ya, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye.
06:59That's really one of my favourite bits from the 90s.
07:03Thank you very much, yeah.
07:04Very good, yeah.
07:05He does impressions now.
07:07Very good.
07:07Hello, hello.
07:08It's true, it's like I just, I look at...
07:09My stuff is so...
07:11It's observational because I'm looking at everyone's side of it,
07:14and I just think we're walking out
07:16and we just hear the bye-bye,
07:17but that flight attendant has to say that
07:19to all 170 people.
07:22So they're standing there, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye,
07:24bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye-bye, bye-bye,
07:27thank you, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye,
07:30bye-bye, bye-bye, thank you, bu-bye,
07:31bu-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye,
07:34Bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye.
07:41Thank you. You gave me an excellent greatest hit.
07:44That was lovely.
07:45Now, Ellen claims she's here with nothing to talk about.
07:52Quentin Tarantino, au contraire, you have a lot to talk about.
07:55So let's get started.
07:57We begin with a play, yes, a play.
08:00It's called The Poppenjay Cavalier.
08:02It's opening at the Phoenix Theatre in London early next year.
08:06So I guess the first question is, like, how did this happen?
08:09How did Quentin Tarantino end up writing a play
08:11and putting it on the West End?
08:12Well, the thing about it was I've been wanting to write a play
08:16for a while and then I came up with this idea and I wrote it
08:21and I think, because it's kind of like a jumping off
08:24on swashbuckler movies and everything,
08:27I think when I first started writing it,
08:29at least for, like, the first third,
08:31I guess what would be the first act,
08:33I wrote it as a screenplay.
08:35Oh, okay.
08:36And then I was like, no, there's something about this character.
08:41There's something about something huge about this character
08:44that if a comic actor were to play them on stage,
08:48in the room, eight shows a week,
08:51and you came up there and you saw it back and forth,
08:54you know, with a real live audience every time,
08:57it would be different than a movie.
08:58This might be the one to do as a play.
09:01And so then I, for the rest of it,
09:04I just started writing it as a play
09:06and I was very, very happy with the results.
09:10And who is starring?
09:11I'm very excited to say it's Sacha Baron Cohen.
09:16Can you tell us, it's swashbuckling,
09:20it's set in the 19th century.
09:21Yeah, yeah.
09:22Can you tell us anything about the story?
09:24I want to kind of keep that a little bit under wraps.
09:26Okay, no, fair enough.
09:27But there is a...
09:29Say no more.
09:34It's jumping off from the swashbuckling genre,
09:37but there is a real, like, French farce quality to it.
09:40Oh, okay.
09:40And you're directing it as well.
09:42Yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:42Uh-huh.
09:42But you've never directed a play before.
09:44No, I've never directed a play before.
09:45Do you think that'll be hard?
09:47No, I don't think so.
09:48No.
09:49You know, I don't think so.
09:50It's like, no, it's at the...
09:52Whoa, whoa, whoa.
09:55That's not arrogant.
09:56I actually...
09:56But you've never directed a film before.
09:58What was your first film?
09:59Reservoir Dogs.
10:00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:01You'll be all right.
10:05I mean, the thing is, as far as I get being in, you know, these limited, you know, limited spaces,
10:12I can't go everywhere.
10:13Well, I kind of figured that out on the page.
10:14And that's kind of how I always do it in a movie.
10:16I kind of figure it out on the page and then I do it on, you know, on the screen.
10:20So here, as I figured it out on the page, so it works as a play or it doesn't work.
10:25And I think it does.
10:25And so now it's just about, you know, just getting with the actors and just working it.
10:29And then the idea of, like, eight weeks rehearsal is a luxury in movies.
10:33Yeah.
10:33Yeah.
10:34It's a full-on comedy.
10:36Okay.
10:37I mean, like, the issue is, if we do our job correctly, is...
10:42You'll miss some of the dialogue because the laughter will be so tumultuous.
10:45Well, I'm even more specific about it.
10:49It's like, we're going to have to add 25 minutes for the laughs.
10:52All right?
10:53So I've got to take out 25 minutes of the material.
10:56Yeah, yeah.
10:56Yeah, do that.
10:57Yeah.
10:58Short is great.
10:59Oh, hey.
11:00I've seen 15 shows since I've been in the West End.
11:03Nothing wrong with short.
11:04No one ever complained about a play being short.
11:08It's only been a third act.
11:10For now, Quentin Tarantino, you are still making movies.
11:14Your latest is The Further Misadventures of Cliff Booth.
11:18Yeah.
11:19And this is in IMAX from November the 25th.
11:22Now, this, you're getting around the not making your tenth film, so...
11:26Oh, I've come up with a slippery, greasy pig loophole.
11:30Yeah, yeah, yeah.
11:30So, you wrote this film.
11:33It's a spin-off from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
11:37Yeah.
11:37It's The Further Misadventures of Cliff Booth.
11:39Yeah.
11:40But the key is, you haven't directed it.
11:42Yeah, yeah.
11:43Well, I don't know if that's the key, all right, you know, but...
11:47I haven't directed it.
11:48You have not directed it.
11:49David Fincher has.
11:51Yeah.
11:51Yeah.
11:51Yeah.
11:51Well, and the thing about it is...
11:54He's my favourite director, aside from myself, all right, working.
11:59And so, when Brad suggested, oh, what about David doing it?
12:04And I go...
12:05This is Brad Pitt.
12:05Brad Pitt.
12:06Brad Pitt.
12:06Brad Pitt.
12:06Cliff Booth.
12:07All right.
12:08I go, wow, if you think he would be interested, yeah, all right.
12:13And then he read the script and he was interested and we got together and talked and it was just
12:16a marriage made in heaven.
12:17So, what's happening to Cliff Booth now?
12:19This is set about eight years later?
12:21Yeah, yeah.
12:22It takes place in 1977.
12:24And Cliff's not really...
12:26He's not really a stuntman that much anymore.
12:29He more has like a series of odd jobs that he does every week and everything.
12:34So, that kind of helps make his nut.
12:36But one of the things that he does is, you know, he knows different people in the industry
12:41that are genuine friends.
12:44Yeah.
12:44Genuine friends.
12:44And when people in the Hollywood industry kind of end up crossing over to the wild side
12:53and get themselves into trouble, Cliff is the kind of guy who can get them out.
13:01OK.
13:02Tell you what.
13:02To give us a feel for what the movie's like, here's a little taste of the trailer.
13:12And you've done this thing.
13:14You did it once upon a time in Hollywood.
13:16You've done a novelization.
13:18Yes, I have.
13:18Of the book.
13:19And the movie theater that's in the film and on the cover of the book.
13:23Yeah, yeah.
13:24This is a good bit of Hollywood trivia.
13:25You own it.
13:27Yes.
13:27I own the New Beverly.
13:28All right.
13:28If you're in Los Angeles, we're a revival house.
13:31And we only show on 35mm film.
13:34Sometimes on 16.
13:35All right.
13:35But only on film.
13:36And if you're in Los Angeles, please check us out.
13:39Have you ever been there?
13:41Yeah.
13:41Great.
13:42Are you being there?
13:43Yeah.
13:44Fantastic.
13:45And there's another...
13:46You own show on the Vista.
13:47I also have the Vista, yeah.
13:49The Vista's so beautiful.
13:50Well, that's the jewel box of Los Angeles.
13:51Oh, it's so beautiful.
13:52The Vista's a theater in Los Feliz as well that he purchased, I think, post-COVID.
13:55Yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:56Right on.
13:56Oh, right on.
13:57You've got a collection.
13:59I'm an exhibitor.
14:02Somebody has said that about me before, but now it's...
14:05Keep your pants up.
14:06Jesus.
14:07It's great.
14:08The sense of community that these theaters also create is really, really cool, man.
14:12Just some lovers.
14:13Actually, we actually just fairly recently had a cool cop double feature, all right,
14:18at the New Beverly and we showed SWAT and it was a smash.
14:21No way.
14:21It was a smash.
14:23It was a smash.
14:23Old school, man.
14:24Old school, ladies and gentlemen.
14:26Yeah, I remember.
14:29Very good.
14:30So what's it like in real life?
14:32It's faster.
14:32Yeah.
14:35We were talking about Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and we were remarking that your casting is
14:41extraordinary because we didn't really know who the young Manson family were and so many
14:47of them are now so famous.
14:49Yeah, that's true.
14:50Yeah.
14:50Like Austin Butler was in there, Sidney Sweeney, Oscar winner, Micah Madison, Margaret Qualley.
14:55Like, is it because they were in a Quentin Tarantino film that they've gone on to success or?
15:01Not at all.
15:03You know, I appreciate, I appreciate having my name attached with them.
15:10They all had, it's not like I found them in a community theater, all right?
15:13They all had done things before in the past.
15:17I mean, Austin Butler was acting in Iceman Cometh on Broadway with Denzel Washington when
15:24I cast him.
15:24But the thing is, though, is, look, me and my casting director, Victoria Thomas, look,
15:30we just did a really, really good job.
15:31We looked at everybody in town that could play those roles and, well, guess what?
15:36We picked the right people.
15:38Good ones.
15:39We picked the right people, but they were all kind of coming from somewhere.
15:45And I'm getting a little bit more credit than I deserve because they all were going
15:51where they were going on their own.
15:53It did not hurt, all right?
15:55But in the case of Sidney Sweeney, she had already done Euphoria the first season.
16:00So she's actually doing us a favor, all right, being in the show.
16:04Yeah.
16:04Because Gemma, you had a kind of experience like this where Crazy Rich Asians, like a lot
16:08of you going into that movie weren't that well known and then, you know, were.
16:13Yeah, yeah, it was an amazing thing.
16:15It was kind of like Asians assembled for this movie.
16:20But yeah, incredible cast.
16:21We've got brilliant people there who've gone on to do amazing things.
16:24So, yeah.
16:25And like for your family, it must have been kind of like, our daughter's in a big movie,
16:29like a proper big movie.
16:30Yeah, my parents are very, you know, they're both, none of them are in the arts.
16:35They're very practical people.
16:36And when I originally did a law degree and switched to then do acting, which was a little bit...
16:42Also thrilled them.
16:43Yeah.
16:43That was a quiet Christmas.
16:45Yeah.
16:47But yeah, when they came to see the movie, my mum told me that she heard a song that her
16:52mum used to sing to her back in China when she was young that she'd never heard, you know,
16:57not heard for a long time.
16:58And it really moved her to tears.
17:00So she's...
17:00That's cool.
17:00Yeah, that was really powerful.
17:02Oh, wow.
17:03She's here somewhere.
17:04Mum is...
17:04Oh, there she is.
17:06There she is.
17:11Hello.
17:12Hi.
17:13Nice to meet you.
17:15And, you know, talking about directors giving people parts, like directors can make stars,
17:20but also they can kind of change the trajectory of established stars.
17:23I'm thinking, like, Martin McDonagh.
17:25Yeah.
17:25When he came to you with In Bruges, is the story that you thought you weren't right for In Bruges?
17:30No, I thought I was right for it, but I thought it was terrible casting.
17:34OK.
17:35Correct.
17:38I had just got out of rehab, and so I had burnt a good few bridges, and the phone wasn't
17:46ringing the way it did in the first few years of my career, and it was ringing also built
17:52on a promise that wasn't anything to do with reality, and I gained certainly a lot of finances
17:56from that, but it was all crazy for the first three years.
17:59But I had a little interesting journey, and took a side trip to rehab, and then I came
18:05out of rehab, Martin wanted to meet me, and I knew Martin from back of the day from hanging
18:08out with him in London, when he was doing his theatre here.
18:10Yeah.
18:11And we'd had some good nights on the tiles.
18:13All in the distant past now.
18:16All in the...
18:16Only coffee and tea.
18:18But we met, and he said, you read the script, and I had read it, he had sent it, and
18:22I said,
18:23yeah, and he said, what do you think?
18:23I said, I just think it's one of the most brilliant things I've ever read.
18:25It's so beautiful, it's so moving, it's such a love story between these two characters,
18:30and it's just an anarchy as well in moments, and it's hilarious.
18:33And he said, great, so you'll do it?
18:34And I said, no, I think you can do better.
18:36What?
18:37And he went, what are you talking about?
18:39And I said, no, no, no, I said, to be honest with you, I was very...
18:42I wasn't like, whoa, I just said, I come with a lot of baggage.
18:46I said, and I might not be known for the right stuff right now, so I think you should get
18:50somebody
18:51that the audience doesn't come in with any kind of prejudice at the beginning.
18:55The writing is that good.
18:56And he went, OK, great, that's fantastic.
18:58You're not the casting director.
18:59Shut the fuck up.
19:01Do the film.
19:02And I went, OK, I'm in.
19:03You did, yeah.
19:05It was such a great film.
19:07Yeah, it was a lovely time to do.
19:09Ellen, can we talk about Dory in Finding Nemo?
19:13We can.
19:13Yeah, because everyone loves that film.
19:15Is it true?
19:16There you go.
19:21So, a bit like Colin was talking about, so the director, Andrew Stanton?
19:25Yes.
19:26So, he rang you out of the blue to be in this movie?
19:29Yeah, it was right after I had come out and the show had been cancelled.
19:37Your sitcom, yeah.
19:37My sitcom had been cancelled because gay people don't work in Hollywood.
19:41So, I was sitting at home and wasn't getting offers and the phone rings and it's this guy, Andrew Stanton,
19:50who's this Pixar nerd who didn't know anything about me not being able to work.
19:56And, um, said, I wrote this thing with you in mind, because he would hear me in the background on
20:02the sitcom rambling and even my stand-up, like, I do these things where I just ramble and forget what
20:07I'm saying and go back and forth.
20:09And he said, I'm writing this character that has short-term memory loss and I don't want to be offensive.
20:17I'm, like, trying to do this in a delicate way and I think you can do it.
20:20And, um...
20:22I believe you can forget.
20:23Yes.
20:24And he was correct.
20:25And, uh, Quentin, I've got to ask you about, uh, the tenth film, the final film.
20:31Have you written it?
20:32Do you know what it is?
20:35Uh...
20:37Maybe.
20:37OK.
20:38All right.
20:39Uh, uh...
20:39Well, no, no, no.
20:40I'm trying to be provocative.
20:42I've written a script that I could do, that I really, really like, but I have to kind of do
20:49the play and see kind of who I am.
20:51All right?
20:52I'll finish the play and then I'll go back and be with my family for a while and then live
20:57and then let's see what that guy wants to do.
21:00OK.
21:00I should remind everybody.
21:01The Pop and Jay Cavalier, it starts previews on the 23rd of February and it opens on the 18th of
21:07March.
21:07Tickets are on sale now.
21:09Quentin Tarantino, everybody!
21:15And we move on to Colin Farrell.
21:19He brings us an extraordinary story.
21:22It's a documentary called The Slightest Touch.
21:25It's available to stream on HBO Max from November the 26th.
21:29And this is the story of you and your friend Emma Fogarty.
21:33You would need a heart of stone not to cry at this film.
21:36Tell us about your friend Emma Fogarty and the point in which we meet her and you.
21:40What do you want to know about her?
21:41She's amazing.
21:41I met her.
21:42Emma was born...
21:43Emma Fogarty was born with a condition called Epidermolysis Bullosa, known as EB for obvious reasons.
21:51And it is basically an issue with the collagen and the proteins between the skin.
21:56So basically, if Emma as a child and anyone who has EB as a child, there are three different types.
22:00She is the most severe.
22:01She's one of three people in Ireland that has the most severe version.
22:03If she bangs her arm off a table, she'll blister.
22:06The arm will become an open wound.
22:07She's not known a day since she was born that hasn't been lived with pain as her constant companion every
22:16second of every day since she was born.
22:18And yet, she has lived the most beautiful, most meaningful, most community-driven, cheeky.
22:23She's funny as fuck.
22:25She is so bold.
22:27She's such an incredible advocate for herself.
22:30Her family have obviously advocated on her behalf.
22:33I met her 15 years ago.
22:34I sat beside her at a dinner.
22:36She took the piss out of me.
22:37I took the piss out of her.
22:39I was worried was that inappropriate.
22:40Certainly not inappropriate to take the piss out of a celebrity, but I was worried it was inappropriate to take
22:45the piss out of a celebrity.
22:46But she laughed.
22:46I laughed.
22:47It kept going.
22:48And that was 15 years ago.
22:49And then we started emailing each other.
22:50And then I come home to Dublin and I see her.
22:52Long story short, I said to her in passing about four years ago, I said, jeez, we should do a
22:59marathon together someday.
23:00And I just didn't even think about it.
23:02And then two years later, I got a text.
23:03Do you remember when we said it?
23:05I thought, oh, man.
23:08And I said, I'm in.
23:09I'm in.
23:09Whatever.
23:10I said, look, if we're going to do a marathon, you and me, we should do a documentary about it,
23:13just for the fun.
23:14I was just thinking of the fun and raise some awareness around Epidermolysis Belosa to try and find a cure.
23:20And all the things that are needed for those who suffer with it.
23:23And she went, what do you mean documentary?
23:24I said, I don't know.
23:25We'll try and find someone.
23:25And we found someone.
23:26We found Rachel Flight, who's an extraordinary director.
23:29And she did.
23:30I had seen her documentary work before.
23:31And she came on board.
23:32There was no structure.
23:33There was no, it was all vague.
23:34It was just Rachel.
23:35This is Emma.
23:36I'm Colin.
23:37We're going to do a marathon.
23:38And what do you want to do?
23:39And then we opened up our lives to her and it became this documentary.
23:43And it begins with sort of Emma beating all the odds.
23:47Yeah.
23:48Emma is 40.
23:49Yeah.
23:50She was told, her parents were told to leave her in the hospital and to not bother taking her home.
23:55That she wasn't going to last a week.
23:56And so Emma's fingers now, by the way, she has her fingers and she can move them under her hands.
24:00But they're all melted together because of the condition.
24:03Yeah, yeah.
24:03Mad.
24:03You'll see in her pictures there.
24:04You can see that her hands are, you know, so I'll just do this for Emma to the doctors.
24:09She very much was like...
24:11You know what I mean?
24:12She was like 40.
24:1440.
24:16Yeah.
24:17She's 42 now.
24:19She was turning 40 for the marathon.
24:20And the whole idea was I'd push her the last 4K each kilometre representing a decade that she had survived
24:26DB.
24:27We've got a little clip.
24:28This is you with Emma and you're testing out the new wheelchair.
24:32The new wheels.
24:32Yeah, the new wheels.
24:33Here we go.
24:37Well, that means that you can tell the friendship is genuine.
24:40I love her so much.
24:42She's the most inspiring human being I've ever met.
24:43And I've been fortunate enough to meet a few families with children who have EB.
24:48And the courage that they demonstrate every day is just next level.
24:51It's unimaginable.
24:52We've got a little bit here.
24:53This is you.
24:54You must have been exhausted.
24:55This is right at the...
24:55And I still said to her, I just have to have one of your parents at least tell me it's
24:59okay.
25:00Just one of your parents.
25:01And her mother came on, Pat.
25:02And she went, yeah, of course it's okay.
25:04Why don't you...
25:05I mean, she can't just do nothing, you know.
25:07She wants to do it.
25:07Look at what she's done with her life.
25:09Of course it's okay, Colin.
25:10Bye.
25:10And off she goes.
25:12We also should say, yeah, you're raising awareness.
25:16But you also, we should say, raised over a million euros.
25:19A million euros.
25:20Yeah, man.
25:23I know, people of Ireland really got out behind us.
25:27We did a media blitz the two weeks before the marathon.
25:30Sorry, love.
25:31I would love if we could raise awareness for something for you to push me in a marathon.
25:36I would.
25:37Definitely.
25:37But you have to say bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye to everyone.
25:4226.2 fucking miles.
25:4526.2 miles.
25:47I'd pay money for that.
25:48Yeah.
25:49I don't make money for that.
25:50Yeah.
25:52And the thing that struck me, it's obviously the story of Emma Fogarty.
25:55But I was really surprised that it's so much about you as well.
25:59Yeah.
25:59There's a lot of your personal life and your family and stuff.
26:02Were you...?
26:03I wasn't a big fan of that part.
26:05Is that why you didn't sign up for that?
26:07I did sign up.
26:07I can't blame anyone because the damn thing was my idea, you know?
26:11So I don't know where to throw the stone mirror.
26:17But I knew that I was going to have to open up a bit of my life to get her
26:19story out there.
26:21And then our director's just so damn loving and empathetic, Rachel, and so decent fundamentally.
26:28There was never any kind of journalistic angle she was trying to take.
26:31And she was over in my house and we'd have conversations.
26:34And then things turned to my dad and my kids.
26:36And, yes, I end up blubbering for the majority of the film.
26:39Well, we all do.
26:40It's such an inspiring film.
26:42It really is such a hopeful beautiful film.
26:43I'm delighted to think that, man.
26:44You should be so proud of it.
26:45Thanks, man.
26:46I'm delighted to think that.
26:47And talking of marathons, is it your mum who's marathon crazy?
26:56My mum has run over 100 marathons.
26:59No!
27:01That's amazing.
27:04That's amazing.
27:07That's amazing.
27:08She's over 100.
27:09And she only started running when my sister and I left home.
27:12No way!
27:13And she joined a local running club.
27:15That's so cool.
27:16She keeps pitching me each year saying we should do a mother-daughter marathon.
27:19And I'm like, maybe next year.
27:22Ask your own telly.
27:23See what she says now.
27:26Maybe you can push me.
27:27Graham?
27:27Yeah?
27:28I hate to do this.
27:30I have to take a pee so bad.
27:34Go pee.
27:36Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:36Go pee.
27:36Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:37Go pee.
27:39You're talking worse.
27:40No, nothing worse.
27:41You've got to go.
27:41You've got to go.
27:42You've got to go.
27:43You've got to go.
27:44You've got to go.
27:44Do you know what?
27:45I think it is the difference between performers and directors because he's not used to having
27:50to hold his pee.
27:52We're all used to having to hold our pee.
27:54Exactly.
27:55He should have thought of that before he came out here.
27:57Yeah.
27:58I've gone to the toilet twice sitting here.
27:59Yeah.
28:01I would love to know how many countries are...
28:05Did you run marathons all over the world?
28:07Yes, I did.
28:09Whereabouts though?
28:09Give me a couple of places.
28:10All over the states, all over Europe, Hong Kong, Marrakesh.
28:15You did Marrakesh?
28:16Yeah.
28:16And I did Dublin.
28:18Did you?
28:18Yeah.
28:19Was it raining or no?
28:20Was it all right?
28:20It was okay actually.
28:22It's flat enough, isn't it?
28:23It's flat enough.
28:24And what's your best time?
28:263.43.
28:27Oh, that's amazing.
28:28Really good.
28:29Did it bother anyone?
28:30No, you like the cycle.
28:32Can I just say, Collar, you are going to end up running more marathons.
28:36Just stop talking to people about marathons.
28:38I know.
28:39Yeah, yeah.
28:39Where do you want to go next?
28:42I'm free in February.
28:45I think Quentin's doing number two, by the way.
28:49I got so, I got so, I got so.
28:53I got so.
28:55I've had to say that when he comes out because I don't want to be the guy.
28:57His finest work.
28:58Yeah, yeah.
29:00Just sign it.
29:02Well, here he is now.
29:04Yay!
29:06I said, I think Quentin's doing a number two.
29:10No, no, no, no, no, no.
29:12It literally was a situation where I had to go so bad that I was actually...
29:18Like, argh!
29:18I had to let go.
29:21I couldn't let go.
29:25I had to talk myself down.
29:27It was all good.
29:28Yeah, yeah.
29:28I apologise.
29:30Very bad etiquette.
29:30You're good.
29:31You're good.
29:32But don't have any more to drink.
29:35We're done.
29:36We're done.
29:36Now, Gemma Chan.
29:38Gemma Chan's latest film is such a powerful, beautiful film.
29:42It is called Josephine.
29:44It's in cinemas from November the 20th.
29:46I know this is a film you care deeply about.
29:49So, tell us who you play and who Josephine is.
29:52Yeah.
29:53So, Josephine is a psychological thriller.
29:56It is loosely inspired by an experience that our director, Beth Giarugio, had in her childhood.
30:02And it's about how an eight-year-old girl witnesses a brutal crime and her mind spirals.
30:08And it's about her journey of resilience to overcoming her fear.
30:13And Channing Tatum and I play her parents, who both love her very much, but they don't agree on the
30:17best way to help her.
30:18Well, actually, that's a very good kind of intro into the clip we have.
30:22This is you and Channing Tatum with the daughter, Josephine, disagreeing.
30:29Ooh.
30:30APPLAUSE
30:35The story is really compelling, but we've got to talk about that little girl played by Mason Reeves.
30:42She is extraordinary.
30:44Oh, my goodness.
30:45She just blew us away.
30:46When we filmed, she turned eight and Beth actually found her in a farmer's market in San Francisco.
30:52So, she was looking for someone who looked like the love child of myself and Channing.
30:56So, tell me this.
30:56So, they cast you and Channing Tatum first and then had to find a kid that looked like you might
31:03have had.
31:03Yes.
31:04So, I was actually, I joined the project and I got sent the script in 2019.
31:08So, it was a winding road.
31:10Like, we almost made it and then COVID happened and the strikes and fell apart a few times and Beth
31:15went and made another film, which is brilliant.
31:17It's called Soft and Quiet.
31:18It's a one take film.
31:19If you haven't seen it, you absolutely should.
31:20Yeah.
31:20And then Channing joined and then we were six weeks out from shooting and we still didn't have the little
31:25girl because the girl who we had originally cast had aged out of the role.
31:30Yeah.
31:30So, Beth went to this farmer's market that was, it was like at the intersection between a very Caucasian area
31:36and an East Asian area and she said, I'm just going to find her here.
31:39So, she sat, she sat in the farm.
31:41That sounds like good casting actually.
31:44And then this little girl just ran past and, you know, Josephine, the girl in the film, she's a tomboy.
31:49She's very physically active and she just had that energy and so she just chased after her and went out
31:54and said, you know, who are your parents?
31:56And, and Mason was like, who the hell are you?
31:59Strange lady.
32:00She said, so, went and spoke to the mom and then said, I'm looking for someone to play the daughter
32:04of Channing Tatum and Gemma Chan and they just thought she was making it up.
32:08Like, yeah.
32:09Like, as you would.
32:10And, uh, yeah.
32:11And then they, they sent a tape in for her and she, yeah, she was just brilliant.
32:15She's, she's incredible.
32:16It's one of the best child performances I've seen.
32:19So, she had never acted before?
32:19She's never acted before.
32:20It's her first film.
32:20Wow.
32:22Did she find it hard?
32:23Like, were there scenes that she was really struggling with?
32:26Never, never is the truth.
32:28Um, I mean, I should say that, you know, our film deals with some very challenging subject matter, but it
32:32was very important that she was protected and felt safe.
32:35So, she never read the script until her parents were around.
32:37Her parents, we always had her mother or her father or both on set, um, every day.
32:42Um, yeah, we wanted to make sure she didn't read the script in full, she's never seen the film in
32:46full and, you know, we used a bit of VFX to put her into scenes that she, we didn't want
32:49her to see.
32:50Cool.
32:50Yeah, it's really, it's so important.
32:51And you must be so gratified that, you know, given, as you say, it was, uh, it was not easy
32:56to get this film made, that it's had such a great response.
32:59It premiered at Sundance and it did so well.
33:01It's brilliant.
33:02Yeah.
33:02It's magnificent.
33:04It's devastating, but it's brilliant.
33:05It really is.
33:06Oh, thank you.
33:07You're all extraordinary.
33:07Yeah, it was amazing to watch it with an audience there for the first time and the response was, yeah,
33:12incredible.
33:13And, uh, we see you, uh, flex your ballet muscles in this film.
33:17I do.
33:18Um, so I, I play a character that is, uh, inspired by Best Mum, who was a ballet dancer.
33:23And so Beth, uh, spoke to me and said, you know, I really think you need to dance in this
33:26film, we're going to have this thing.
33:27And I was like, hold on, we have Magic Mike in the movie and you want me to dance?
33:33Like, are you serious?
33:37Uh, but she was like, she was very important.
33:42It comes at an emotional point, like a midpoint of the film.
33:45So, yeah, I worked with an amazing choreographer called Katerina Beckman and they, they whipped me into shape.
33:49Had you done ballet before?
33:50I did ballet until I was 11 years old and then had done, like, nothing since.
33:53So you had some training.
33:54It was, it was very rusty.
33:55Yeah.
33:56Yeah, they make me look much better than I am.
33:57And was Channing there on the day?
33:59He was.
34:00And he was like, thank God, I can just sit back and I don't have to do this.
34:04He was so happy about it.
34:05But you danced with him, Ellen, didn't you?
34:07You danced with Channing Tatum.
34:08I have danced with Channing Tatum, actually on one of his Magic Mike performances.
34:14I was on stage with him.
34:15Really?
34:16Yeah.
34:16I didn't know that.
34:17Yeah, we took the show to Vegas and we did a thing and, um, yeah.
34:23So, were you taking his clothes off or something?
34:25Kind of.
34:26OK.
34:28But wait, Graham, you've danced with him.
34:29I've seen a clip of you.
34:32You danced with him?
34:33No, he danced with me.
34:35I've worked with Channing, I've never danced with him.
34:38You and me.
34:39I missed out.
34:40It's a missed opportunity.
34:42And Ellen, because you spent so much of your life on television, like, do you miss it?
34:46Um, yeah, I miss a lot about it.
34:49I miss the, you know, I miss laughing every single day with the writers and I miss the
34:53guests that I, I miss kissing Colin.
34:56Um, I miss a lot of it.
34:58And I think about doing something here.
35:01It does seem, it does seem easy to get on television here because...
35:08Charming.
35:08I mean...
35:10I just called you up and I said, I have nothing to promote.
35:14Can I just sit on the couch?
35:15And you're like, yeah.
35:15Yeah, of course.
35:18So...
35:19It's true.
35:20Yeah.
35:21No.
35:23I, I mean, you know, I mean, there are shows here that I'm just shocked that someone went
35:28and sold it.
35:29And, you know, it's like, there's a sewing show.
35:32So you're watching someone sew.
35:34Um, there's a, a pottery show where there's, there are things, there's a show of watching
35:39people watch television.
35:41Like...
35:42And I'm like, I could just come up with like, I, I mean, I, I mow every day.
35:47I like to mow.
35:48And I thought people could mow and see how long you disassociate from your family.
35:53Because that's what you're doing.
35:54You're out there just by yourself and along.
35:56As long as you can be out there.
35:59And...
36:01I can call it lawn and order.
36:03And, uh...
36:06Yeah.
36:07Yeah.
36:09There will be an email in your inbox before you leave the set.
36:12Yeah.
36:13Well, it's so lovely to have you here and good luck with whatever you do next.
36:16Ellen DeGeneres, everybody!
36:19Right.
36:20It's time for music.
36:21This band won the prestigious Mercury Prize for their debut album 33 years ago.
36:26And this year, they are up for another one.
36:29Here performing their single Dancing with the Europeans.
36:32Please welcome...
36:32Sway!
36:35Great job!
36:36I mean, Brett, do you want something to come over to see us?
36:38Here comes Brett!
36:41Hello, sir!
36:43Lovely new time with you.
36:44Very kind of you.
36:47Hello, everyone.
36:47Hey, this is Alan.
36:49Hello, hello.
36:49Lovely to meet you.
36:50How are you doing?
36:51How are you doing?
36:52How are you doing?
36:54There you go.
36:54Have a seat, have a seat.
36:55Show me in there.
36:57One of those drinks is yours.
36:59Is it?
36:59Is it like Lucky Dip?
37:01Yeah, really.
37:03Thank you so much for being here and doing that performance.
37:05It's been a while.
37:06I think it's 23 years since you were last on the show.
37:08Yes, it was.
37:09And now, I hesitate to bring this up, because on the show, we had a lovely time with you, but
37:15the band had a less lovely time.
37:17Yeah.
37:18I'm not blaming you specifically, but last time we were on here, we split up.
37:24That's actually true.
37:25No, it is really.
37:26Yeah, it's actually true.
37:27We had a...
37:28Was it?
37:28Did he used to film it here?
37:29I can't remember.
37:29No, we were in London Studios.
37:30We got a picture of it.
37:31In fact, you could sort of tell something was off.
37:34Yeah.
37:36Yeah.
37:38Yeah.
37:38You don't look like a happy band.
37:39There's a tension.
37:40Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:41So, was there a fight, or you just decided, we've reached a low ebb, we're on The Graham Norton Show?
37:47Well, you know, more bands should split up, to be honest.
37:49It's one of those...
37:50And how long did you stay...
37:51A mercy killing.
37:52How long did you stay split up for?
37:55Seven or eight years, I think.
37:56And then we reformed for Teenage Cancer Trust.
37:59Yeah, yeah.
38:00They said, come and do a show, and we...
38:01And then we were just going to do, like, a one-off show for Teenage Cancer.
38:05And it sort of, I don't know, couldn't leave it alone, really, so...
38:09Well, it's kind of adorable that you got back together and kind of thought, well, actually, we miss each other.
38:12Yeah.
38:13No, it was lovely.
38:14And then we started making new records, and, you know, it's...
38:17Yeah.
38:18That's...
38:18And here we are.
38:19And listen...
38:20And that's everything that's happened in my life up until this point.
38:22Yeah.
38:23Here we are.
38:25Tenth studio album.
38:27Antidepressants.
38:27Your debut album was nominated for the Mercury Prize, and now you are nominated again.
38:31David, you haven't won the Mercury Prize.
38:33Oh, we won it!
38:34It won it!
38:34God damn it, it won it.
38:35There you are, with the prize.
38:37With the prize.
38:39Good man.
38:41So, 33 years later...
38:4433 years later.
38:44Do you care more or less?
38:46I think you care more because it is very, very, very rare for bands, 33 years after winning the Mercury
38:53Music Prize, to still be relevant.
38:55And I think one of the reasons that we're still here now is because we've...
38:59We approach the new music we're making now as passionately as we ever have.
39:04And, in a way, I think we've reinvented our sound and all these kind of things.
39:07So, I'm very, very proud of that.
39:09It's kind of like a symbol of recognition, in a way, so...
39:11And you've got some die-hard fans in the audience tonight.
39:14There they are.
39:16And I'm guessing they might be showing up for your tour.
39:20You're heading out on tour...
39:21Yes, we are.
39:21With the Manic Street Peaches.
39:22That's right, yeah.
39:23Very good.
39:24And...
39:24Yes.
39:25Yeah.
39:26Is that...?
39:28That's me, yeah.
39:29No, but that's now.
39:30Like, that's this October.
39:30That's me, with the microphone there.
39:33Like I'm eating a big piece of spaghetti.
39:37Like Lady and the Tramp.
39:38It's adorable.
39:40So, when is the Mercury Prize announced?
39:42Oh, it's next week, isn't it?
39:43Next Thursday, I think.
39:44What is this?
39:45Yeah, yeah.
39:46Oh, it's...
39:46Good luck.
39:47It's up in Newcastle.
39:48Are you going to come?
39:48Yes.
39:49Yeah.
39:49Oh, no, I'm working.
39:50Oh.
39:55Good luck with the Mercury Prize.
39:57Thank you very much.
39:58I hope you pull it off.
39:59That'll be amazing.
39:59We won't.
40:00Good luck with the tour.
40:01Thank you for that performance.
40:02Thank you so much.
40:03Suede, everybody!
40:07OK, that is nearly it where we go.
40:10Just time for a quick visit with a big red chair.
40:12Who do we have?
40:13Hello.
40:13Hello.
40:14Hi.
40:14What's your name?
40:15I'm Renee.
40:16Renee.
40:16Lovely.
40:17Where are you from, Renee?
40:18I'm from New Zealand.
40:19Fabulous.
40:19Home of the anecdote.
40:22Do you live here now, Renee?
40:24Yes, I'm here now.
40:25Oh, love.
40:26She's here now.
40:28Yeah.
40:28Yeah.
40:29What do you do here, Renee?
40:30Yeah, so I work as a customer experience lead at a health tech startup.
40:35Sweet Jesus.
40:36Pop that in the business card.
40:37Yes.
40:37OK.
40:38Renee, off you go with your story.
40:40Yeah, so I've been in London just under a year, but a couple of months into moving here, I decided
40:45to get on the dating apps, downloaded the top three that everyone uses, cycled through everyone.
41:19Wow.
41:20And yeah, I messaged him and he said, yeah, yeah, I saw you and it said that you're the most
41:25compatible for me as well.
41:27And yeah.
41:27And now they're married.
41:28No, we're not.
41:31That's always a bit creepy.
41:32OK, here we go.
41:33And that is really all we've got time for.
41:35Please, thank you to all of my guests.
41:37Suede, everybody.
41:40Ellen DeGeneres.
41:43Gemma Chan.
41:46Colin Farrell.
41:48And Quentin Tarantino.
41:53Join me next week with music from Georgia Smith, Aussie conservationist Robert Irwin, Ted Lasso star Hannah Waddingham, and double
42:00Oscar winner Cate Blanchett.
42:02I'll see you then.
42:02Good night, everybody.
42:03Bye-bye.