00:15What is Nairo's fitness level?
00:20For Nairo, one of his dreams was the times of time,
00:23especially the times of time,
00:25in the times of times of times of times of times of times
00:30like Tom Dumoulin or Geraint Thomas.
00:35I think we always had a slight advantage over Nairo back in the day.
00:41But I wasn't really losing much.
00:46As we saw in the Vuelta when he hit me in the Vuelta.
00:49It only took a moment when the leader was having a bad moment.
00:57And Nairo was able to win.
01:02There's not much he has to lose by going for Nairo.
01:05He didn't win the Vuelta, but he had a great career.
01:13Tenacious, tenacious.
01:15He was always there.
01:17And he could never give her a gift.
01:20He would either win the Vuelta or be there for the victory.
01:29Lap.
01:29This Tour that he won in 2016.
01:35Yeah.
01:35Yes, I would say so.
01:37I believe, if I remember correctly,
01:41He wasn't in the leader's race until he had the Tour.
01:46And it was truly a disaster at the beginning of the stage,
01:51where he went with Consador in the Vuelta de Formigal.
01:55And although I was in the general class,
01:59He was always looking for an opportunity to get past me.
02:03And he found it.
02:03He found it.
02:04And it's the day he won the Vuelta at this moment.
02:08What is the Vuelta in the Vuelta in the Vuelta?
02:13What's the Lap within the Lap?
02:38When they ask me about my main achievements
02:41and win the Tour de France and everything,
02:44I would say yes, okay.
02:46These are really important to me.
02:50But what makes me most excited
02:57It's the trip I took.
02:59Since growing up in Nairobi and Kenya,
03:01when I watched the Tour de France
03:04for the first time as a teenager,
03:06I believe that at the age of 16,
03:09I thought, wow!
03:11I've thought about it,
03:13I thought I loved riding my bike,
03:15But I never knew this sport existed.
03:17So, when I saw this,
03:22It motivated me to reach the Tour de France
03:25and I had no idea
03:27that he would beat me four times.
03:31What's the Lap within the Lap?
03:34What's the Lap within the Lap?
04:03What is the Vuelta in the Vuelta in the Vuelta?
04:05What's the Lap within the Lap?
04:09What is the Vuelta in the Vuelta in the Vuelta in the Vuelta?
04:34What did you do on Mont Ventoux?
04:39On Mont Ventoux, when we had gone more than a kilometer to the end, my car broke down.
04:47And I knew I didn't have the option of having another motorcycle for a while.
04:52The cars were a long way behind.
04:55And it was truly a moment of chaos, of panic.
04:59And after two seconds, I thought, I'm not going to wait here.
05:06The finish line is only one kilometer away.
05:09I have to keep going.
05:10So it came naturally to me.
05:14What did you do?
05:14Just right to continue.
05:16This is the bad moment of my career, of course.
05:19Of course.
05:21But, now.
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06:25They lose minutes, you can't see anything else, because everyone is cooling down much more now.
06:31So we're not seeing these huge explosions like we saw in the past, and everyone is calculating.
06:36how much they need and everything is much more measured, so you don't see the same kind of mistakes as
06:43We did it in the past, so it's less unpredictable than it was in the past.
06:50And perhaps that's what Rigo meant when he said it's more boring, perhaps because it's not seen.
06:58These things are happening more and more, and I think the sport has become more professional in many ways.
07:05And I think that's part of it.
07:14It's incredible, I don't know if I can explain it because it's truly unique, very special.
07:22He's doing it, not only, of course I understand what's needed to win a race like the Tour de France
07:27France, but for me what's most incredible is what he's doing in the races of one of
07:32the days.
07:33This is really special, because it needs to be better for three weeks and normally
07:39When you have this kind of skill, you don't really have what you need on any given day.
07:46Because you have less capacity to go very deep on one of the days, but you're better in three weeks.
07:53So seeing someone who's doing the classics, Pays-Roubaix, Flesch, Amster,
08:00All these races, Flanders, San Remo, these types of events, and also winning the Grand Tours,
08:07This is truly unique and takes us back to the time of Eddy Merckx, almost.
08:12I wasn't watching the show then, but I imagine it would be very similar in some ways.
08:19What is the career cycle?
08:23Unfortunately, we all know that's part of the race; the risks are always there.
08:28And it can happen so quickly in one part of the race, when there are no risks and no problems,
08:36Something like that can happen, but I'm sure he'll come back stronger from that.
08:43What is the career cycle?
08:45What is the career cycle?
08:47Yes, it's a very unique talent he has to have, to do everything he's doing,
08:53One-day races and Grand Tours, to be so successful and everything is clear.
08:59The question of where it fits into the history of all time, I think it's well on its way
09:07to be the best of all time, but I still don't think it's there.
09:10I think there are some races he still wants to win, that he hasn't been able to win yet.
09:16like the Vuelta, for example, where he fell this year.
09:19But there's no doubt he'll be back in the future, perhaps in the next year.
09:23to win some of the races they are still losing.
09:26So he has won six Grand Tours, five Tours de France,
09:30So there are riders with more Grand Tour victories than him,
09:36and winning all three Grand Tours,
09:38But there is no doubt that he will achieve those goals, and he will probably do so very soon.
09:50What are the top 5 career achievements of all time?
09:52Wow!
09:52Okay, I have to go for the top 5 who won the race at least five times,
09:56So Tadej would be on that list, of course.
10:00I'm not part of that club.
10:02I have had four Tour de France victories,
10:04But I'm super happy with what I've had.
10:07So, five guys who won the Tours five times,
10:10So Eddy Merckx, Bernardino,
10:13Inger Reyn, Anketil and Tadej Pogacar.
