00:00People will say, why don't you write happy songs?
00:04Why are your songs always depressing?
00:07First of all, I get like, well, I don't think they're depressing,
00:09but I also don't think happy songs are that happy
00:15because if there's no conflict, it's not interesting.
00:19And then to me, that's not, like whatever happy means, that's not it.
00:35It's a major surprise to me that no artist has ever walked up,
00:42you know, taking the elevator up to the 32nd floor in the CBS building
00:48and sprayed the entire place with machine-blown fire.