00:00I'm at a point where I'm really just challenging myself.
00:03Yeah and like I think that that's like the best place to be in making music and art,
00:09anything like that. It's like when you are like discovering it for the first time,
00:15whether it's like a new genre or whatever, like that feeling of like you don't fully know what
00:20you're doing, I think that's kind of the most exciting thing. That's when artists are their
00:24best when they're like just out of their depth, you know? Like I make sure that I'm always like
00:30just out of my depth every time I make an album. I'm like what am I doing, you know?
