00:01A witness has been giving evidence over the last two days, Ros, who is a former friend
00:05of the accused, known by the pseudonym Elizabeth Kennedy.
00:09Now, over the last couple of days, she has told the court that around the time that Jesse
00:14Baird and the accused broke up, the accused became obsessed with him.
00:18She's described how he started to stalk him, taking photos of him having sex with other
00:23men through his bedroom window and turning up at places where he thought that Jesse Baird
00:28might be.
00:29She's also described to the court a trip that she took two days after the alleged murders
00:34with the accused in a white van to Bungonia, south of Sydney.
00:38Now, this witness this morning gave evidence that on that day, the accused picked her up
00:42and asked her if she wanted to go for a drive.
00:44She said yes, but she didn't know where they were going.
00:47And when she asked, he wouldn't tell her.
00:49He just said they were going to a farm down in that area because it was beautiful.
00:53She said that she kept asking how much longer and he told her 50 minutes and that on the
00:57way, they stopped off at a Bunnings in Goulburn where he asked her to pay for an angle grinder.
01:03She said once they arrived at the farm, he then used the angle grinder to cut the padlock
01:09off the front gate.
01:10And he asked her to cover the van's number plates with black garbage bags.
01:14Now, she told the court that she said no.
01:16He seemed annoyed about that, but that he got out and did that himself.
01:19When she was asked by the Crown whether she'd asked him why he was doing all these things,
01:23she just said that she thought he was up to something and she then told the court that
01:27he left her by the front gate while he drove the van down to a dam that was hidden behind
01:32the house where she says he stayed for about 30 to 40 minutes before returning to her.
01:38She says at that stage she was having a panic attack and he told her that he would drive
01:41her back to Sydney.
01:43She said on the way back to Sydney that he seemed annoyed and she thought maybe something had
01:47gone wrong.
01:47She asked him about it and he just said that he didn't want to involve her, but he said
01:53that he would have to return to the farm and he would be up all night.
01:56So that's her version of events about what happened on that day.
02:00We know that this witness did go to police three days after the alleged murder with some
02:06information about this trip and that is what sparked the very widespread police search around
02:11this area which eventually led to the discovery of the bodies of Jessie Baird and Luke Davies.
02:16But the accused lawyer has put to her a very different version of events during cross-examination.
02:20Yes, absolutely.
02:21This witness is appearing under a certificate which protects her from any prosecution unless
02:26she doesn't tell the truth in her evidence.
02:29And the accused lawyer put her under some pretty vigorous cross-examination.
02:33Now in that cross-examination he put to her a series of suggestions or questions.
02:37He suggested that the accused told this witness that Jessie Baird was dead and that when he arrived
02:44in the van to pick her up that day, he actually pulled back the tarpaulin and showed her one
02:50of the bodies and that he told her, this is serious, I won't mind if you don't want to
02:55be involved.
02:56Now she denied that flatly.
02:58The accused lawyer also then suggested to her that when the accused had said, I think
03:04I should go to the police, that she said to him, you shouldn't do that, they'll never
03:08believe you, we have to hide the bodies.
03:10And the defence lawyer also put to her that she had told the accused, it's like the Taylor
03:15Swift song, no body, no crime.
03:18Now again, she strongly rejected that and she said in fact, that song by Taylor Swift was
03:23a song that Bola Mark Condon played in the van on the way to Bungonia and she said that
03:28she thought it was strange because it's not a very well-known Taylor Swift song.
03:32Now again, we have to go.
03:32Now again, we have to go.
03:33You
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