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00:00Okay, just shut up.
00:04I feel like I'm literally in psycho jungle, like right now.
00:08Because we are.
00:13Virtual reality.
00:16Hi, I'm Denny Murphy.
00:17I'm Evan Real.
00:18And oh my god, we are still on the island.
00:19I don't want to leave, but I think these ladies are ready to leave
00:22after all of the drama that has been going on here.
00:24No, I can't believe, like, we are fully in psycho jungle, as Jessel called it.
00:29Psycho jungle.
00:30I feel like I'm in psycho jungle.
00:32I love it.
00:33I love it.
00:34It's so, and I was like, how did she come to that as a phrase?
00:39But I love the phrase, it's the new scary island.
00:41It is the new scary island.
00:42I like it.
00:43Psycho jungle.
00:43It's a mentality.
00:45It's a mindset.
00:46Now, also as a J-Lo fan, how did you feel about the Erika dress?
00:48She looked so good.
00:49Oh my god, I thought she looked amazing.
00:51If anyone can pull off a J-Lo dress, it's Erika.
00:53That body, yaddy, yaddy.
00:54She looks so, so good.
00:56I really like Erika, and I feel bad for Erika that this trip to Mosquito Island, her private
01:01island, has turned into a calamity of sorts.
01:04I mean, it's just one disaster after the next, whether it's an actual physical injury or a
01:10friendship breakup.
01:11I'm like, did Carol bring the Cartier watch?
01:14It was a watch that was owned by my late husband's aunt, Jackie Kennedy.
01:18Once I realized it was cursed, I said I have to sell it.
01:23I'm like, is that why we're all cursed?
01:25That was interesting.
01:26I want her to finish the story.
01:28I know no one else wanted to hear the rest of the story.
01:29I was hurt.
01:30No, that's what I'm saying.
01:31I feel like poor Carol, they were dragging her for making the story long, but then the
01:35cursed Cartier watch, it ended up in the hands of Kim Kardashian, and then Kim Kardashian
01:39didn't want it.
01:40I feel like there are some details missing, and I want to know everything.
01:43I know.
01:44Now, I feel Haley would have preferred that story to continue versus the questioning of
01:48her finances.
01:49Sometimes you make money from Manifestation and Sunshines.
01:51Oh my god, the way she explained that was just so good.
01:54And also, I think the thing is, she's just rich, bitch, and I don't know how, but when
01:59she's like, and Audi's not expensive.
02:01She's like, rent's not that expensive, guys.
02:03You're shocked that I was like, I aspire.
02:06She must be really, really rich.
02:08But she said that it was tacky to talk about money, and do you know what I think?
02:12I think she read Paris Hilton's Confessions of an Heiress back in the day.
02:17It was a book that Paris, it was like a coffee table book that I, of course, have read like
02:2119 times.
02:23Love that book.
02:24But in this book, Paris does say it's tacky to talk about money, and I feel like Haley
02:30must have read that book because the other girls were not understanding that, so I know
02:33they haven't read Confessions of an Heiress by Paris Hilton, because they don't think
02:37it's tacky to talk about money.
02:38Cy was like, let's talk about the money.
02:40She loves money.
02:41Right, she loves it, which I totally get.
02:43I mean, it's very interesting and fascinating to learn how people make money, but for some
02:47it is kind of a sensitive subject.
02:49Well, Samantha Jones once famously said, people get funny about money.
02:53Well, they do.
02:54It is so true, but it's like, it is kind of a thing where it's like, I think, A, talking
02:57about financial health is smart.
02:59Yeah.
03:01Well, was this a discussion about financial health, or was this just nosy girls wanting to know
03:04how she makes her millions?
03:05Both of these things can be true.
03:07Well, also, it's a thing, too, where it's like, you can look at the girls, where it's
03:10like, Carol writes on her, like, you know what I mean?
03:13Carol writes.
03:14Like, everyone has a tangible skill.
03:16Daisy works with Marcia Stewart.
03:17Everyone, like, I'm like, I'm understanding how the checks are cashing.
03:20Right.
03:21And I think the girls were kind of just like, Haley, you haven't talked about your career
03:24yet on the show.
03:26Yeah.
03:26Let's talk about it.
03:27Right.
03:28And she does PR.
03:29She does mention that she's a publicist.
03:31And then I like, the one time Jessel and Aaron got together, like, how many people?
03:3315, 20?
03:34Yeah, they really wanted to know.
03:36Well, I guess also because Jessel came from PR, so maybe she was like, trying to ask some
03:39more questions in that world.
03:40So she, yeah, she's part of that world.
03:41So she's like, five clients, ten clients.
03:43We didn't really get answers, but it seems like this continues to be a discussion.
03:48I guess so.
03:49Because there's just mystery surrounding it.
03:51But I think then she shuts them up because we'll unpack, we'll get to the mid-season
03:54trailer a little bit after this, but I'm Martha's Vineyard House.
03:57Oh my God.
03:58That just, I think, answers the question.
03:59She's just rich.
04:00Well, and she has two yachts.
04:01She has two yachts.
04:02I like that she was like, I don't have kids.
04:04I'm like, neither do we, but I don't have three yachts.
04:07And then it was also highlighted that she spends her days just getting her butt lasered.
04:11Like, I wish.
04:14Raise your hand if you're jealous.
04:15Like, yeah.
04:16We're all jealous.
04:16I'm jealous, Haley.
04:18We are working.
04:19I mean, actually, we have a lovely job because we get to talk about you.
04:21So no complaints, but I can understand why the ladies have questions, who I know is
04:26going to be pissed the hell off.
04:27She probably already is because this comes out after Daisy about Haley's Confessional
04:31where she said not all of us are married to a hairdresser.
04:33I make my own money and I'm married to someone who does very well.
04:37So like, earth to Daisy, none of us are married to hairdressers.
04:40Oh, I know that was...
04:41Now, doesn't he work at the plaza?
04:43I did not know that, but that's very chic if he does work at the plaza.
04:46I think he works at the plaza, so I'm like, that's money.
04:48You know, some hairdressers do very well for themselves.
04:52And also, I mean, a makeup artist, too, is a right...
04:54She's Martha Stewart's frickin' makeup artist, so she's got money, too.
04:57I think they're doing all right, but damn, that was some top-tier shade, Haley.
05:02Well, that's why I think Cy was kind of getting to it.
05:03She's like, we're all on this private...
05:05Like, we're not saying you're poor.
05:08Like, contrary.
05:09We're saying, like, we want your secrets.
05:11I just don't like when people just like someone because of money or social...
05:14No, but we're friends!
05:15We're in a private island!
05:17We just want to know what the f*** to do for a living!
05:19Yeah, it's funny, because Cy and Daisy, they've been having tension,
05:24but discussing Haley's finances and the mystery surrounding her career,
05:28they were...
05:28They teamed up and they were like, what's going on?
05:30Where's Haley from originally?
05:32Haley?
05:32Yeah.
05:33I think Pennsylvania, I think.
05:35Oh, okay.
05:35Because I was trying to think, I was like, maybe is it just like an East Coast thing?
05:37We're like, where'd she get your money from?
05:38But I guess she's PA, maybe she's...
05:40I think, I could be totally wrong, but I do...
05:42You would know better than anybody else.
05:44I think because the Gosselins are also from Pennsylvania,
05:47I think that's how they know each...
05:48I think...
05:49I don't know.
05:50I could be wrong.
05:50Haley, if I'm wrong, please.
05:51I don't know where you're from.
05:53We gotta do some research.
05:54We gotta do some...
05:54Well, Carol was doing research on Cy.
05:57She was.
05:57Because, you know, Cy was being a reporter.
06:00Carol put on her reporting hats, too,
06:01and they kind of sub-stack to sub-stack.
06:03Yeah.
06:03Because I like that Carol was like...
06:06Carol and Cy are both like...
06:07Like, Cy is unbothered by any energy Carol's giving her.
06:10And then this was after Carol was talking...
06:14Carol and Cy were talking all about Epstein and Ghislaine
06:17and everything like that.
06:19And then Carol's like,
06:19so I read about all your sub-stack Daddy Warbucks.
06:22And the Daddy Warbucks story is...
06:24Oh my God, Daddy Warbucks that I met at Scores.
06:26What happened to him?
06:27You know what?
06:27He was in a Ponzi scheme.
06:31Yeah.
06:31So she was kind of trying to, like, prove some...
06:34It seems like...
06:35She did.
06:36I think they're not clicking.
06:36They're definitely not clicking.
06:37I think that Carol was successful in at least proving to herself
06:42the point that she was trying to make,
06:45which is Cy also had this situation with someone she was close to,
06:49some guy she called Daddy Warbucks that she wrote about on her sub-stack.
06:51And he gifted her money, et cetera.
06:54And then she found out later that he was part of a Ponzi scheme.
06:57And once she found that out, she wanted nothing to do with him,
07:00wanted nothing to do with any of that.
07:02And so Carol was like, oh, so you get it.
07:05Same with me and Ghislaine.
07:08I can appreciate her tactic there.
07:12I just hate that they don't get along.
07:15They don't...
07:17Vibrationally, they're just not made for each other.
07:19Don't frickin' click.
07:20Yeah.
07:20I don't know.
07:21I feel vibrationally, because we have seen it happen before,
07:26Aaron and Cy getting along.
07:27Yeah.
07:30Their conversation today, today, on the episode,
07:34felt good in the sense that there was ownership.
07:37Aaron being like, hey, listen, we found out.
07:40All the glam icons.
07:42Oh, my God.
07:44Case and Chris are really on the case.
07:48When Cy told Aaron, like, I would have liked if you stopped the conversation instead of adding more to it.
07:53Yeah.
07:53And Aaron was receptive to that.
07:55Yeah.
07:55She owned it.
07:56She owned it, which I thought was really big and good.
07:58And I hope it leads to some stuff going forward.
08:00I feel this conversation about the whole Povet stuff is probably not done.
08:05Right.
08:05Because we kind of took a pause with the Povet of it all on this episode, which I was confused
08:09by,
08:09because that was kind of like the shocker finale of, you know, that was like the ending scene of last,
08:15or close to the end.
08:16Side note, you know what Povet should do right now?
08:18What?
08:19He should go on Hot Goss.
08:20He should.
08:21Do you know the E show where it's Y'all and Lonnie in the Sada?
08:25I feel he would, because he's such a clapbacker.
08:27That's so funny.
08:27He should.
08:28Free idea.
08:28He should do that.
08:29Yeah.
08:30Free idea.
08:30No, I was surprised that we didn't really dig into it a little bit more, just because I felt like
08:35that we kind of ended on a cliffhanger in a way with that situation.
08:38Because I feel Jessel's going to have to come home and talk to Povet about it.
08:40Yeah.
08:41So, you know, more stuff is going to...
08:42Well, we see in the mid-season trailer that Jessel is talking to Povet about the state of their marriage,
08:46which doesn't seem to be in a good spot.
08:47She's saying that she feels a little bit, like, ignored, etc.
08:50There isn't any indication that they talk about the gay rumors.
08:55But when it comes to the gay rumors, you know, Jessel on social media has been saying that it caused
09:00her much distress.
09:01And I would 100% believe that.
09:03What we're seeing on the show, or initially, she seemed to brush it off.
09:07Like, it wasn't that big of a deal.
09:08He doesn't even go to the gym.
09:10But sometimes that's a defense mechanism.
09:12Right.
09:12And so I do feel bad for her that she feels like she has to put on a front.
09:17Also, especially, she's, like, probably in an extra defense mechanism because she's like, I'm however many miles away from my
09:22husband.
09:23Yeah.
09:23I can't even talk to him about this.
09:24He doesn't know what's going on.
09:26I don't know who to believe, what to believe.
09:28Not in terms of it being true.
09:29But who to believe is saying what about who told anything and stuff like that.
09:33So I think she's, like, feels very off-place and off-base, which is hard.
09:37Well, then also hearing from others on the cast that everyone knows about this rumor, that it's been talked about.
09:43Even the kid at the RealReal knows about it.
09:46Who is this kid?
09:47I don't know, sir.
09:48Also, sir, what?
09:49How do you know this tea?
09:50Did he start this rumor?
09:51Did he make this rumor up?
09:52I know.
09:52Like, what is going on?
09:54I just, I, it makes me really sad, to be honest.
09:57It's so, it's so icky, because I'm not saying, Pop, it's gay.
10:02Who knows what's going on there?
10:03But, like, if someone is gay, this is kind of, like, outing them.
10:08And so I don't think that's the case here.
10:11It's also a thing that's, I'm like, we've had this on Housewives for, I thought we left this a decade
10:17ago.
10:17Right.
10:18Whenever we just think someone's house husband's gay or something like that.
10:20What did you make of Carol saying it's, like, it's more on Cy for bringing it to camera versus Aaron
10:28saying it out of dinner?
10:29Like, whose fault is it?
10:31It's so tough.
10:33I feel it's kind of like Cy bringing it up to let people know that, because Aaron, I think she
10:43did it because Aaron was like, I swear I didn't talk about your marriage.
10:46And Cy, I want to prove the point, you do talk about those marriages.
10:48Right.
10:48And then I think that's why she brought Chris into it.
10:50And I think also, because now, especially if it's, like, this open discussion secret for the ladies, I feel like
10:57Cy's probably like, I'd rather be the one to tell Jaisal versus, because also, if this was floating around, it
11:02was going to make it to camera.
11:03Right.
11:04You know what I mean?
11:04True.
11:04If it wasn't Cy showing Jaisal a FaceTime, it would have been, like, Daisy and Aaron sitting down being like,
11:10oh, wait, so what was Jaisal talking about?
11:11What was Cy talking about?
11:12You know what I mean?
11:12Right.
11:13There is no way it wouldn't have happened.
11:15Well, and then also, correct me if I'm wrong, but we still haven't seen the moment where Aaron's, like, quietly
11:21talking about, I know stuff that will ruin Jaisal.
11:24Or did we already see that play out?
11:25Was that when they were talking about this place as a dump?
11:27I forget.
11:28Is it?
11:28It felt like it could have been, but I don't remember it explicitly.
11:31Did it not make the edit?
11:32Was it cut out?
11:33Because that was in a preview, and this, the poppet of it all seems like information that could ruin Jaisal's
11:40life and her family, et cetera.
11:41What also made me laugh, too, Carol saying, I'm not used to, like, women shouting so much at dinner.
11:45I'm like, girl.
11:46Oh, wait, when she said it, I was like, you're a varsity at this.
11:48I was like, you must have forgotten what show you previously starred on.
11:51Carol, you were with the women who invented shouting at a dinner.
11:54Yeah.
11:54I have, like, that was just very funny.
11:56That was.
11:57With this mid-season trailer.
11:58Looks good.
11:59Looks good.
11:59Daisy yelling at producers that she's not getting ganged up.
12:02I'm not having f***ing everybody against me, okay?
12:05I'm not having f***ing six f***ing girls against me.
12:09F*** at it.
12:09Because someone says that, I think that's saying that she cheats on her husband.
12:13Yeah, that's crazy.
12:15That is, that is really wild.
12:16But, I mean, the Raya, it's like, I don't know.
12:19Raya Carey.
12:20Is that a drag name?
12:21Raya Carey.
12:21A sponsored drag name?
12:22That's good.
12:23That is really good.
12:23My Raya Carey.
12:25Because if you guys missed it, earlier this season, Daisy revealed that when she and her husband get into fights,
12:29he looks for.
12:32On Craigslist.
12:33And she gets on Raya.
12:34Well, she clarified to us when we interviewed her that she goes to, that he just goes to the leasing
12:38office in their apartment.
12:39So, he loves this building.
12:40Okay.
12:40To get a one bedroom.
12:41That's, that's beautiful.
12:42I wonder.
12:43I don't know if it's rent controlled.
12:44It's rent.
12:44Their unit is rent controlled.
12:45Yeah.
12:45But are there just like rent controlled units available?
12:48I feel like they're kind of stuck in that apartment together, regardless of what happens in their marriage.
12:51Because I don't think anybody wants to let go of the rent controlled apartment.
12:54No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
12:54I think they are in it to.
12:56Well, I, I think he was in the apartment much longer than she was before they got together.
13:00He's been in it for 21 years.
13:01So, if anything happens to their marriage and fingers crossed it doesn't, would he keep it?
13:08Well, then she would get to like live in a non-popcorn ceiling apartment.
13:11Why do I feel like Martha Stewart would just buy her an apartment?
13:13She could just go live on, she could go live on the compound.
13:16On the farm.
13:16Yeah, in New York.
13:17That'd be kind of fun.
13:18Actually, that would probably make Martha's life way easier for Daisy to always be around
13:21Especially because she does like glam for the pool.
13:25Remember Martha's selfies?
13:26She's so sultry.
13:27I love it.
13:28And I love to that because I was so confused because there was an announcement that Devin
13:33was going to be on the show.
13:34Yes.
13:34And then I was like, did I fever dream that?
13:36Devin Simone, right?
13:38Devin Simone, yeah.
13:38Devin Simone, yeah.
13:39I was like, did I fever dream that?
13:40Because like she wasn't, but I guess she's joining halfway through.
13:42Right.
13:43As a friend of, she's from the real world.
13:45She's a reality TV icon.
13:46And like a dating expert.
13:47Because that's like, I know her from like all the daytime talk shows doing like dating,
13:51consulting and stuff like that.
13:52I need her thoughts on the whole riot.
13:53Oh my God.
13:54Right.
13:54But also she seems to have thoughts about Psy because that midseason.
13:57They are clashing.
13:59They are clashing.
14:00Also, we got a glimpse of Lindsay Hubbard.
14:02Well, did you see, because Lindsay said to Erica, right?
14:06Like this is an insult gift or something like that.
14:08Did you see Lindsay comment about Erica on our Instagrams?
14:10What'd she say?
14:11The virtual reality Instagram comment section is now like, it's the after show.
14:15Wait, what is going on?
14:17And Daisy, or Daisy and Nichelle Turner from E.T. were fighting in it.
14:20She was comedy because it was when we asked Erica about, maybe the...
14:27Vegetarianism?
14:28No, I think it was about the Martha Stewart dinner.
14:31Oh, the Dinan Dash accusations.
14:34So maybe Lindsay was there because she said, oh wait, no.
14:38Oh no, what?
14:39Lindsay says, Erica needs to start having actual opinions.
14:42What's the answer here?
14:43Oh, uh oh.
14:45Wait, what were we asking about?
14:47What do you remember about Haley saying Martha Stewart dined and dashed?
14:53Oh.
14:54A very random question to say that she needs to have an opinion on.
14:58Huh.
14:58Interesting.
14:59Because I think Erica was just like, she doesn't need, she's Martha Stewart.
15:02I mean, look, Lindsay Hubbard...
15:04You know I f***ing love that girl now.
15:05...is a reality TV icon.
15:06So she knows a thing or two about being an incredible reality star.
15:09She's great in an interview.
15:10She's great with a soundbite.
15:11And she always shares her spicy ass opinions, which we love her for.
15:14But she and Erica are very different.
15:16You know?
15:17As much as I wish every woman on this planet acted, behaved, and operated through life like Lindsay Hubbard,
15:23it's unfortunate that's just not the case.
15:25Not the case.
15:25And so we need our Lindseys, we need our Ericas, we need all the girls to make this world go
15:29round.
15:29Mm-hmm.
15:29You know?
15:30And round they do.
15:32As Liza Minnelli once sang, and the world turns round.
15:35There'll always be a summer, a winter, a spring, and a fall.
15:39That's right.
15:39You know that song?
15:40I don't.
15:41But I love that you brought Liza into this.
15:43You know who I love the song?
15:45Dorinda Medley.
15:45Oh, for sure.
15:46I need to listen to But the World Goes Round in the Berkshires with Dorinda Medley sometime soon.
15:50Yeah, that would be really healing.
15:52For the world!
15:54Do you know what?
15:54Give Liza an apple.
15:57Now that's a bitch who would tear some shit up.
15:59She really would.
16:00She'd be like, here's the thing about Lady Gaga.
16:01Right?
16:03Read her book.
16:04I'm not getting into the Lady Gaga drama.
16:05All right, guys.
16:06But we will get into the drama on whatever happens when these ladies get back to New York next week,
16:09because I think they're officially done with the island.
16:11I think.
16:12Let's hope.
16:13Let's hope.
16:13Who knows?
16:14I know, for Erica's sake, she needs to stop being the host this year.
16:16Oh, and also her burping and Aaron's queefing.
16:19Oh, wait.
16:19Yeah, Aaron Leachie can queef on command.
16:21Hello.
16:22I mean, that's amazing.
16:24What a skill to have.
16:25What a skill.
16:25I mean, I can't wait.
16:26I need to look at her resume.
16:28It's a little special scale.
16:29Profession in Microsoft Word and queefing.
16:31Get you a girl.
16:32All right, guys.