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Between stops on his first-ever solo tour in the United States, TEN stopped by our Los Angeles studios to talk with Bru about his transition from groups like NCT, WayV, and SuperM, to now taking creative control as a solo artist.
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00:00He has spent the last decade becoming one of the most dynamic performers in all of global pop.
00:06You're getting ready to debut your first ever U.S. solo tour.
00:10But you know I'm through NCT, Wavy, Super M, blazing his own trail now.
00:14Ten is here. Come on, crowd.
00:17Thank you. So nice to meet you.
00:19Nice to meet you.
00:20I want to hear all about the tour as we kick it off, like your first U.S. solo tour.
00:24What are the feelings in your body before? Are you nervous? Are you excited? Are you feeling ready?
00:29I'm feeling nervous, but I wouldn't say I'm ready.
00:33I'm ready, but I wouldn't say I'm ready until the show starts.
00:37Okay.
00:37Because there's always still the little stuff, all the detail that I need to figure out before the actual show.
00:45And then I wouldn't say everything won't be perfect because the imperfection is the thing that makes the show look
00:55great.
00:56Oh, yeah. Gotta make it custom, right?
00:58How many shows do you find your groove, you think?
01:00I mean, it's your first one, so it'll probably be all new to you.
01:04Yes. So we had like 14 shows.
01:06So we started from Seattle, and then in New York, it's going to be the final show.
01:11Yeah.
01:13And didn't miss anything.
01:15No, but it's going to be like a showcase kind of type.
01:17Sure.
01:18Because it's my first time here in the U.S. doing my solo showcase tour.
01:23Yeah.
01:24It's going to be super exciting for me because I never tried this kind of stuff before.
01:28Oh, yeah.
01:28I did like five years ago with Suprem, but as a soloist in the U.S. alone, it's like super
01:35new to me.
01:36Oh, my gosh.
01:36Going out there solo.
01:37I wanted to ask, what is it like?
01:38Like, what's the thing completely different about doing a show on your own rather than a group?
01:45More responsibility.
01:46Yeah.
01:47It's all eyes on you, right?
01:48And also, like there's so many like small details that you need to like focus on when you're on like
02:00a solo tour.
02:00Yeah.
02:01Like your health.
02:02Oh, yeah.
02:03Because I can't have an off night.
02:06That's also, and also like your like vocal, like, what do you call that?
02:13Like health.
02:14Yeah.
02:15Because like when you're on tour nonstop, sometimes when you have a health problem, it's so hard for you to
02:20sing it live.
02:21So like I had to get myself like with all the vitamins.
02:26Oh, yeah.
02:26Sleep early.
02:27Of course.
02:27Because I want to show all my fans like the best show.
02:31I don't want, yeah.
02:31Yeah.
02:32What is your vocal warm-up like?
02:34I feel like everyone has a different one.
02:36What do you like to do?
02:37I like to shout before.
02:39What?
02:39No, no, no.
02:41Counterproductive.
02:41I mean like, um, like a high shout.
02:44Oh.
02:44Because like when you go like, ah, ah, you find like the right register.
02:50Shake it loose.
02:50Yeah, yeah.
02:51That's awesome.
02:52And I like to sing a lot in the facetto.
02:55Yeah.
02:55For my vocal warm-up, just like drink a lot of like, I won't drink like warm water.
03:00It's just like very, the right temperature water just like to like warm up.
03:05Or just like a little exercise.
03:07Yeah.
03:07Yeah.
03:07I'm sorry I didn't get the memo about the water.
03:09I don't know if I made it too cold.
03:11No, no, no.
03:11Room temp, 76 degrees.
03:14I never shake my room temperature before.
03:16The water?
03:17Yes.
03:18Yeah.
03:19It's science.
03:19I'm just saying.
03:21You know what else has been science has been how, you know, you've worked with massive teams
03:25before.
03:26And not that you're not working with a lot of people right now, but what is it like to be
03:30doing it on your own?
03:31And what's the decision lately that you've been like, oh, this is the creative control
03:35I've been wanting.
03:39Um, I think it started, okay, everything started just like in my house.
03:49I was sitting down just like, oh, I want to make my dream come true.
03:54Like, I want to make my vision come to life.
04:00And at that moment, I decided to start up my company element.
04:06And like slowly I want to like bring all the vision that I had in me and make it like
04:13my, my new journey.
04:14I think that's how everything started.
04:15Like very sudden.
04:16Yeah.
04:17Yes.
04:17Was it something you've been dreaming of for a long time?
04:22I think I had that like little moments in me, like time to time, but because of like
04:27the 10 year, like I've been in, in this industry for 10 years and at some point just like, you
04:34know what, I want to create something by myself.
04:37I want to try, I want to risk doing something that I had always had in my, my head and
04:46then
04:46put it into like reality.
04:48Yeah.
04:48And with like all the, um, the people around me that are willing to believe in me and like
04:52it goes with me.
04:53That's really like helps a lot.
04:55Absolutely.
04:56Well, some of the new things that are out right now, your two singles out West IRL, obviously
05:01you've worked from the beginning to the end of that process.
05:04What's something new you tried on either of those singles that even two, three years ago
05:08you wouldn't have thought you've done?
05:10First, um, I really put like every like visual together with like the team.
05:18So like before, so everyone prepare all like the visual, like the concept, like the art,
05:24the teaser, everyone's like before everything got prepared and then sent it to me.
05:31But for the out West, it's more of like me like sitting down with my team and we really
05:36just like give out ideas and put everything, like put all the puzzle and together.
05:41And I had to trust myself in like all the, all the art, all the visual that I'm doing
05:46with out West.
05:47And it's more of like exploring like ideas, like of like be more freedom.
05:55It's like put all the crazy thoughts that I had in me and just like make it in reality.
06:02I think that's like the, the things that happened with out West.
06:05Yeah.
06:06Yes.
06:06I love that.
06:07It sounds fun.
06:08Just getting to throw it at the wall, you know, whatever.
06:09It's very scary though.
06:10For sure.
06:11Because like no one, like next year is like, oh, this is right.
06:18Oh, this is wrong.
06:18It's just like.
06:19All up to you.
06:20Let's go with the flow.
06:21Wow.
06:22Yeah.
06:22It's a lot of responsibility.
06:24It's all on your shoulders, which is fun though.
06:25You know, it's going to be fun to see when that success comes that you're like, you were
06:28right.
06:28Yeah.
06:29So I can't wait to see it.
06:30You released your first original Thai song this year.
06:33Yes.
06:33That's so cool.
06:34Congrats.
06:35You speak so many languages.
06:36It's unbelievable.
06:37But when you make a song in your native language, does it feel emotionally different?
06:43Like you can say lyrics or a different feeling because it's that language?
06:48You know what's funny?
06:48Because I sing in a different language for like over 10 years.
06:52So singing in Thai is pretty hard.
06:56Really?
06:56Yes.
06:57Because it's like when you sing in English or Korea, you don't pronounce it.
07:02Like sometimes there's some like pronunciation, like twist that you had to like make it.
07:08So it sounds good in the song and record.
07:12Also, that goes with Thai.
07:14So it feels very awkward at first when I'm in the studio recording like my first Thai single.
07:21Yeah.
07:22It took me like 10 hours to record that the Thai single.
07:26Wow.
07:27Because like how you use my voice in singing in English in Korea is very different from singing in Thai
07:31because of like the vowels and how like the word.
07:35Just the inflection, literally how you pronunciate it.
07:38And also like, you know, when you split some like word out, like the air that you use are very
07:43different from like Asian language.
07:44So it took me a long time to record like the Thai song.
07:48But it's great because it's my first like Thai single that I released over 10 years.
07:52And it's like a small gift to all my fans who's like follow me for 10 years.
07:56That's amazing.
07:57Well, 10 years is a wild amount of time to spend and reflect.
08:00If you could sit with 10 who debuted in 2016, which what a crazy year.
08:05Great year to debut 2016.
08:07What do you think you'd be most surprised to learn about your life now?
08:13Like how he's doing right now.
08:15Like he has, he's doing his own thing.
08:18Yeah.
08:18Like setting up his own company and to try something else like that.
08:25Very risky, I would say.
08:27For sure.
08:28But at the same time, very interesting to try out.
08:31Yeah.
08:31Yeah.
08:32Well, you're, and you're like trusting in you, which is pretty cool to see.
08:36Yeah.
08:36Because like, um, I'd rather try something new and take risks than just like regret it later
08:45on in life.
08:46Yeah.
08:46Yeah.
08:46Got to try new things.
08:47Absolutely.
08:48You said this new solo chapter doesn't mean closing the door on NCT or Wave V.
08:53Um, but is it fun to see yourself in like different chapters of yourself?
08:58You know, we get 10 in a group versus 10, uh, completely on his own.
09:01Um, I do, but I do appreciate like both because if you're like being in a group and doing solo,
09:07they have pros and cons.
09:08And then you experience different stuff in groups, like you get to, um, experience like
09:14different genre of like music that you're trying to do and work as a team.
09:18So you're like kind of fulfill like each other like roles and trying to balance like the
09:23group stuff.
09:24Yeah.
09:25And in solo, like you take full responsibility of all your work.
09:28Like, like the music that you're releasing represent like your personality as well.
09:32So there's like a different like responsibility that you had to take for doing both and enjoying
09:37doing it both.
09:38Yeah.
09:38Is there something creatively working as a group that you don't want to lose?
09:42Yes.
09:42With my members, just like, you know, um, when you're doing like concert or like film a music
09:49video, like all those balances, um, really helped me as well because like sometimes like
09:57I'm not like perfect.
09:58I'm maybe I'm like the notes that I get for the group, like it's a high notes, but some
10:04member can fulfill that role for me.
10:06I feel like I had less responsibility in the groups somehow.
10:10And it's like a safe zone.
10:11Yeah.
10:12Because you like, um, lean on your member as well.
10:16It's like, you don't have to like bear all the responsibility.
10:20Absolutely.
10:21Yeah.
10:21That's so nice.
10:22I loved hearing that you're learning graphic design and motion art because you do want to
10:27be able to like from your own brain, get to see it come to life.
10:30Um, which I love.
10:32I think that's such a great process to do.
10:33When you hear a song, what do you actually see?
10:35Is it like colors?
10:37Is it visuals?
10:38Is it a video?
10:40Like what comes to mind?
10:42Oh, it depends on the song.
10:45Hmm.
10:45But like right now I'm preparing like my new like album as well.
10:49So we've been throwing a lot of like ideas for like some songs and maybe like the, um, some
10:57phrases in the lyrics that helped me with like all the visual or just like sometimes I just
11:04like go on like social media, find a lot of like artwork or like, you know, what do you
11:11call that, um, those like short videos or like motion art?
11:15Like those kinds of stuff just really helped me to like put my ideas like together.
11:20Yeah.
11:20Are you talking about claymation?
11:21I don't know why that came to mind.
11:22What's claymation?
11:23It's like the little clay guys.
11:24That can't be it.
11:25Oh, those kinds of stuff really helped me as well.
11:28Oh, and also like, you know, like magazine photo shoot.
11:30Oh yeah.
11:31Like, oh, I know what you mean.
11:31Um, vision board.
11:33Yeah.
11:33Yeah.
11:33Yeah.
11:33Those kinds of stuff really helped me with like me putting in inspiration.
11:36Yeah.
11:37Yes.
11:37And also like sometimes like it might sound funny, but you know, like kids, like cartoons.
11:44Sure.
11:45Because like watching like cartoons and animation.
11:49Yeah.
11:50Like the visual, like the things that happen in all those like anime and cartoons are so
11:56like unlimited.
11:58That's why you get so many good ideas from those.
12:01For sure.
12:02Are you into anime?
12:03Yes.
12:03What are some of your favorites?
12:04Right now?
12:05Yeah.
12:05I don't really have time to watch anime right now, but, um, my, um, if someone was just getting
12:10into it, I would recommend them Hunter x Hunter.
12:13Okay.
12:13Do you know that one?
12:14It sounds familiar.
12:15I'm not going to lie though.
12:16I haven't seen it.
12:17And I love every anime because like, I feel like anime or movie, there's no like bad movie
12:25or bad anime because it's a story, a story that they're trying to tell you.
12:30Yeah.
12:31So if you enjoy it, it's a good movie.
12:33So if you don't enjoy it, then you might judge it as a bad movie.
12:36Yeah.
12:36That's a good point.
12:37People do that all the time.
12:37I didn't like it.
12:38So it's terrible, but it's just not for you.
12:40Yeah.
12:40Is there any American cartoons that you enjoyed?
12:44Yesterday, I watched like Simpsons on TV.
12:47It's classic.
12:48Yeah.
12:48I always had watched like shorts on like social media, but I never watched like a full series
12:54before.
12:54So yesterday I just got home, just turned on the television and there's like Simpsons.
12:59So I just said, okay.
13:00Oh, that's funny.
13:02Interesting.
13:03I don't know where I was.
13:03I was out of the country.
13:04I think it was Germany recently.
13:06SpongeBob everywhere.
13:07I never really watched SpongeBob before.
13:09Do you count Ben 10?
13:11Ben 10?
13:12Yeah, absolutely.
13:13Like five years ago.
13:14Yeah, absolutely.
13:15Gosh, it's a classic.
13:16Teen Titans?
13:16Teen Titans.
13:17Yeah, I knew it.
13:18I could feel it.
13:18You were going for that one.
13:19And then that one, they have like a grandma, a dog.
13:23Courage the Cowardly Dog.
13:25There's no way.
13:26Right?
13:26Yeah.
13:27That is just the most-
13:28It's a very spooky horror.
13:30Yeah, I watched that too young.
13:31It freaked me out.
13:33Because like when I was young, I watched Cartoon Network.
13:36Yeah.
13:36Yeah, that's why I get to like experience all those.
13:38Muriel!
13:39That was the grandma's name.
13:41No, but I watched it in a Thai audio.
13:44Oh, so it wasn't Muriel.
13:46Why was that old man so mean?
13:48Oh, you mean the guy who had like the gun with him all the time?
13:51Yeah.
13:52Terrible.
13:52He's just a dog.
13:53He's just a dog.
13:55It's so interesting to hear like how you operate in Thai, English, Korean, Mandarin.
13:59Obviously some Japanese.
14:00Do you feel like your personality actually changes when you shift languages?
14:04Yes.
14:05Yeah?
14:05I do.
14:06So who's like the-
14:07Go ahead.
14:07I want to hear.
14:08No, absolutely.
14:09Go after you.
14:11How does it change?
14:12It's just like the tone.
14:14You know, in Korea or in Thai or in Japanese, you have like the-
14:19What do you call that?
14:21Honorific phrase?
14:23What?
14:23Did I say it right?
14:24Honorific.
14:24Yeah, honorific.
14:25Yeah.
14:25Those kind of stuff when you do it, it makes me sound more like-
14:29Gentle, like very humble.
14:32Got it.
14:32No, I think it sounds the same in every language.
14:35I could see how it'd bring out different things from you, you know?
14:38Like who would you think is the funniest version of 10 language wise?
14:45I think it's English.
14:46You're hilarious.
14:47I think so.
14:47So I never have think about that before.
14:51I think English.
14:52Yeah.
14:52Or like Korean sometimes when I'm with my friends.
14:57Yeah.
14:57There's just some like a lot of like Korean slangs that I-
14:59That's a big part of it.
15:01Yeah.
15:01Yeah.
15:02Do you know what-
15:02But I think when I speak in English, I'm more or less filtered.
15:05That's why it's funny.
15:06Yeah.
15:07Yeah.
15:07Absolutely.
15:08What's the most romantic version of 10 language wise?
15:12I'm not a romantic.
15:16What does angry 10 sound like?
15:18Which language would you be the angriest, I guess?
15:22I don't think I ever-
15:23You just don't get mad.
15:25I get mad, but I'm not like the shout kind of type.
15:28I'm very quiet and mad.
15:29Yeah.
15:29Only when you're vocally warming up.
15:32Wait, wait.
15:33That's a very interesting.
15:34I don't get mad that often.
15:36I'm quite mad.
15:37When I'm mad, I'm just very quiet.
15:41Like, I give out the mood that, okay, I'm mad.
15:45Yeah.
15:46Silent treatment.
15:47Yeah, yeah.
15:47I do a lot of silent treatment.
15:49Yeah.
15:49But I'm not like the shouting kind of type.
15:51Feels like you get mad in American because I feel like we do that.
15:55What language do you think in the most?
15:56Like, you know, is your inner dialogue?
15:59It depends on who I'm talking to.
16:01Really?
16:01So if I'm talking to someone in Korean, like using Korean, then I'm thinking Korean.
16:07But if I'm using English, maybe like English.
16:10Wow.
16:10So like when you're thinking of answers right now, you're thinking in English?
16:12Yes, because I don't want to filter it from Korean to like English and then split it out
16:18or even Thai to English and split it out.
16:20But nowadays when I talk to my mom, it's funny how I think it in Thai, but I kind of
16:25like
16:26talk to my mom in Korean and she was so surprised like, son, you're talking to me in Korean right
16:32now.
16:32It just slips out.
16:33But I don't really know that I was explaining to her in Korean at that moment.
16:37What do you talk to your cats in?
16:41Korean and English.
16:43Yeah.
16:44And sometimes Thai.
16:46Wow.
16:46Oh, it depends on who I'm with in that moment.
16:48So if nowadays, like my parents came to my house in Korea very often, so I communicate
16:53with them in Thai.
16:54Thai, so nowadays I'm talking with my cat in Thai.
16:57And if they're not in Korea anymore, I talk to my cat in Korean.
17:01Got it.
17:02Yeah.
17:03This is an important question.
17:04If your cats could leave you a Yelp review, how many...
17:06What's a Yelp review?
17:07Yelp is how you rate something in the United States, like for food restaurants.
17:11So five stars is the best.
17:13One is the worst.
17:14How would your cats rate you as an owner?
17:17Five.
17:18Yeah?
17:18You're a great cat dad?
17:19No, because they rent for free.
17:22They have free food.
17:24Free toy.
17:26They just meow meow and sleep on my bed every day.
17:29They meow like you need to get another job.
17:31And then I came home at midnight, so super tired.
17:33They just meow at my face.
17:35I'm hungry.
17:35Meow.
17:36And I was like...
17:36You've been home all day.
17:37Bro, I'm so tired.
17:38Can't be quiet.
17:39Oh my gosh.
17:41You've been famous essentially like your whole adult life now.
17:44Is there anything about normal 30-year-old life that you're now getting to experience?
17:52Not really.
17:53No?
17:53I don't really think about age that much.
17:55Yeah.
17:56The only thing that I'm thinking right now because I'm 30 now.
17:59I'm just...
18:00I want to travel the world.
18:02Yeah.
18:02So that's the only regret.
18:05I wouldn't say regret, but the only thing that I had in my mind that I should do in
18:10my 20s, just like travel a lot.
18:12Yeah.
18:12Like not working, just like travel.
18:15Right.
18:16But right now, it's just like if I have time, I want to travel like abroad, go somewhere
18:20so far that no one knows.
18:21Yeah.
18:21Just try like...
18:23I don't want to do like a luxury trip.
18:25I want to do a very like, you know, like down on earth.
18:28Backpacking.
18:29Yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:29I love that.
18:30You're getting to go to 14 American cities.
18:32Is there any of them that spark your interest that you want to explore when you're not on
18:35stage?
18:36Yes.
18:37Like just walk around.
18:38But I'm doing some research right now because there's so many cities that I've never
18:42been to.
18:43I heard of it, but I've never been to.
18:45So I'm just like, do the Googling, just like where to go or like what's like the, what do
18:51you call that?
18:53The thing that you should do in that city.
18:56Yeah.
18:56Recommendation.
18:57Yeah.
18:57Yeah.
18:57I could use some.
18:58I'm going to Japan Saturday.
19:00First time.
19:01First time?
19:02I am.
19:02On vacation?
19:03Mm-hmm.
19:03Alone?
19:04With my fiance.
19:05Oh, ooh.
19:06Also 30 years old, by the way.
19:07What would you recommend?
19:08Is there anything off the must do, top of the mind that I've got to see?
19:12Food.
19:13Yeah.
19:13That's what I said.
19:14Onsen?
19:15What was that?
19:16Like, like Japan, hot spring.
19:19Oh, is that in Tokyo?
19:21I think you can find some in Tokyo.
19:23Just any hot spring.
19:24Yes.
19:24Perfect.
19:25And do you like some character or like games and stuff?
19:29Yeah.
19:30Mostly Ben 10.
19:32I don't know if you have Ben 10 in Japan.
19:35Courage?
19:36Is Courage out there?
19:37Do you like Pokemon?
19:37Of course.
19:38Yeah.
19:38Oh, you should go to Pokemon Center.
19:40Okay.
19:40Cool.
19:41There's like a huge, like, a Pokemon statue that everyone just like line up for it and
19:45take a picture.
19:46Oh, wow.
19:46Okay.
19:47I'll go early.
19:48I appreciate that.
19:49I'm going to write that down.
19:49I'll let you know how it goes.
19:51Before we wrap, I want to do this game.
19:52Has anyone ever played with you something called 10 out of 10?
19:57No.
19:58It's just you ranking things 10 out of 10.
20:00Okay.
20:00Okay.
20:01I just thought, I was like, that's so smart.
20:03But I'm like, you had to have done this before.
20:05Have you ever done this?
20:05It's so stupid.
20:06It's just like, no.
20:07We're going to play Ben 10 right now.
20:09Okay.
20:10So just rate these out of 10.
20:1210's the best.
20:13One's the worst.
20:1510 out of 10.
20:16With 10.
20:17American coffee.
20:21It depends on where you drink.
20:23Sure.
20:24But I would, right now, I had a lot of good coffee.
20:27So, say, 9.
20:28Okay.
20:29That's pretty good.
20:30What about New York pizza?
20:32Have you had that?
20:33I had that in Korea.
20:34Is that count?
20:35I don't know.
20:36I don't know.
20:37Is it a very thick New York pizza with dropped cheese?
20:39Would you count me having Korean food here as Korean?
20:43Yes.
20:43Okay.
20:44Well, then, yeah.
20:45We're getting confused.
20:48Let's do eight.
20:49Because I haven't tried it before.
20:51In New York.
20:51Yes.
20:52Okay.
20:52Well, yeah.
20:53NA on that one.
20:53Let's go five.
20:54Oh.
20:54Let me try it and I can post it on somewhere.
20:57Keep it neutral.
20:58How about LA traffic?
21:03Wait, wait.
21:03So, one is worse.
21:06I would say...
21:06Ten's the best.
21:10Eight.
21:11Eight's good.
21:12Okay.
21:13Let's go with, like, six or seven.
21:15You like it?
21:17Or is it...
21:17I've never been to travel during the rush hour.
21:20Oh, okay.
21:20Yeah.
21:20Where's the worst traffic you've experienced?
21:24No comments.
21:25Okay.
21:26All right.
21:26So many faces.
21:27You're right.
21:28You're right.
21:28You're right.
21:29Ten out of ten.
21:30Cats.
21:31My cat?
21:32Cats.
21:34I would say ten.
21:36Perfect.
21:37Fashion week?
21:39Ten.
21:39Yeah, fun.
21:40Fun.
21:41I've seen the YSL.
21:41I get to meet so many, like, people.
21:43Yeah.
21:43You get to wear cool clothes.
21:45It's the best.
21:46So, um, talk to a lot of, like, different people who, who's at the show with different, like,
21:51like, jobs.
21:52And it's just fun to, like, talk to them, like, how they're doing.
21:55Yeah.
21:55Yeah.
21:55Do they let you take the clothes home?
21:58No comments.
22:00Just ten.
22:01But they do have, like, cool stuff, yeah.
22:05How about writing lyrics?
22:07Where's that on your scale at?
22:08Right now, like, honest, I'm still working on, like, the writing, but I'm more comfortable
22:12with making melodies.
22:13I'm still learning it because, like, this year is my first time really being in the studio,
22:18like, experiencing with myself because I'm, I always, like, listen to, pick and choose
22:25demos, but I don't really, like, sit down with, like, producer and write, sing, like,
22:30do, like, top lining.
22:31Yeah.
22:32But this year, I'm trying to get used to those environments, just, like, with, like, producer
22:37and songwriter and just, like, be brave enough to just, like, put out my ideas on the table.
22:42Yeah.
22:42So, I'm getting used to it.
22:43I really enjoy it because, like, it's like a therapy section for me.
22:47Of course.
22:47Because we just sit down, talk about so many random stuff, and then just, like, make melodies,
22:53and then they help me with, like, the lyrics and stuff.
22:56Yeah.
22:56It's great.
22:57When you start a song, is that how it always starts for you?
22:59Melodies, then you figure out the rest?
23:01Right now, it's like I listen to, like, the track and then just, like, split out some random,
23:06like, melodies, and if that works, then we cut that and then we put it in, and then we
23:10make more melodies and see which one, like, works best, and then we just, like, do some,
23:14like, cutting.
23:15Yeah.
23:16Yeah.
23:16That's cool.
23:16Interesting to hear.
23:1810 out of 10.
23:19How about group chats?
23:21I'm bad at, like...
23:22You're bad at them?
23:23Yeah.
23:23Do you at least like the stuff in the group chat?
23:25You know, when you can leave the little emoji guy on the text?
23:30I'm very bad at, like, replying.
23:33I always forget to reply to people.
23:36Yeah.
23:36And then I had to fix it this year because a lot of people complain now.
23:4010, you should reply to me faster.
23:41You don't want to be left out of the group chat.
23:43You know, one day you're just gone.
23:45You're removed.
23:45All right.
23:46Three.
23:47That's a good number.
23:48Yes.
23:49Anime.
23:50Talked about this.
23:5210.
23:53Perfect.
23:54Selfies.
23:55How do you feel about those?
23:56Like, my ability to take selfies?
23:58Yeah.
23:59I would say, like, eight.
24:00It's pretty good.
24:01It's a good...
24:02I do this for, like, 10 years.
24:03We're going to take one after this.
24:04I want to see the skills.
24:05Being 30.
24:06How's that on a scale of 10?
24:0710.
24:08Yeah.
24:08It's a good time.
24:09I do enjoy my 30s.
24:10That's awesome.
24:11It feels like I can do everything I want to do.
24:14Yeah.
24:15Like, anything.
24:15Like, there's no, like, should I do it or not?
24:18It's just like, you know, let's do it.
24:20No time to waste.
24:21Yeah.
24:22Just try it out.
24:23Freedom.
24:23I love that.
24:24A couple more here.
24:25Your own cooking?
24:26Zero.
24:27Yeah.
24:28Now, what's your go-to if you have to make something?
24:31I don't make any.
24:32I don't cook.
24:33Yeah.
24:34I try to make, like, fried rice.
24:36Uh-huh.
24:37And it came out to be a risotto.
24:40And then my friends was like, my members, I make that for my members.
24:44Uh-huh.
24:44And then I make, like, you know, kimchi, fried rice.
24:46Mm-hmm.
24:46And it turned out to be a risotto.
24:48And they're just like, 10, you know what?
24:49You're a talented guy, but just don't cook.
24:52Leave the stove alone.
24:54Got you.
24:55Last one.
24:56Your current happiness level.
24:57Where's that at?
24:59I'm trying to make it 50.
25:00Oh, no, not five.
25:02Because I don't want to be too happy.
25:03Yeah.
25:03And I don't want to be too sad.
25:05Got to keep it level.
25:05Yeah.
25:06I want to keep it, like, around, like, five and six.
25:08Oh, my gosh.
25:09Well, I know that energy at the show is going to be a 10.
25:11Congrats on the tour.
25:13The new music coming.
25:14It was so fun to meet you.
25:15And thanks for sharing what's going on in your life.
25:17And can't wait to see you on the road.
25:19Thank you for having me.
25:20Thank you, Tim.
25:20Appreciate you so much.