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Bekas Olimpian negara, Josiah Ng berkongsi kisah yang jarang didengari ramai.  Daripada perjuangannya membawa pulang pingat untuk Malaysia, persaingan sihat bersama Azizulhasni Awang, kisah mentaliti juara yang membentuk atlet bertaraf dunia, sehinggalah pandangannya terhadap sistem pembangunan sukan negara.  Episod yang penuh inspirasi, kontroversi dan pengajaran untuk atlet, ibu bapa, jurulatih serta peminat sukan Malaysia.  00:00 Pengenalan & Siaran Bermula 01:10 Tetamu Istimewa: Josiah Ng 04:20 Bagaimana Josiah Masuk Pasukan Malaysia 08:18 Pengalaman Berlatih Di Amerika Syarikat 11:42 Mengapa Pilih Wakili Malaysia 13:14 Misi Melahirkan Juara Olimpik Malaysia 16:53 Persaingan Bersama Azizulhasni Awang 18:40 Tahun Gemilang 2010 20:01 Mentaliti Atlet Generasi Baharu 22:22 Diet Seorang Atlet Olimpik 25:02 Perubahan Pemakanan Demi Prestasi 28:05 Nasihat Kepada Atlet Muda 30:08 Saat Hampir Pertimbangkan Doping 32:04 Kuasa Mentaliti & Visualisasi Kejayaan 34:03 Kisah Pingat Emas Komanwel 2010 36:47 Adakah Atlet Malaysia Cukup Lapar Untuk Menang? 39:55 Sokongan Kepada Atlet Elit Negara 41:00 Kepimpinan Dalam Sukan Malaysia 44:18 Sistem Sukan Yang Perlu Diubah 47:06 Peranan Sektor Swasta Dalam Sukan 49:22 Masalah Pembangunan Akar Umbi 50:42 Siapa Pengganti John Beasley? 52:33 Kejujuran Dalam Sistem Sukan 55:39 Mesej Buat Pemimpin Negara 56:30 Sembang Santai Selepas Siaran 57:04 Kritikan Terhadap Infrastruktur Sukan 59:11 Kuasa Komuniti Dalam Membangunkan Sukan 01:03:17 Penutup ---------------------- DISCLAIMER: ---------------------- The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the guests and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of SYOK. Any advice given is general in nature and should not be construed as professional advice.  Please consult a qualified expert advisor before making any decisions. SYOK is not responsible for any losses or damages arising from the use of the information provided in this podcast.

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00:00:00Music

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00:00:36Salam sejahtera, selamat datang ke Pemain Kedoblas.

00:00:39He's having his drink.

00:00:40This show is so loose that even Roshan isn't here.

00:00:44Wait, wait, wait, I'm coming, hold on.

00:00:45Welcome to Pemain Kedoblas,

00:00:48the only show that's in dual language and bahasa dan juga ada in bahasa English.

00:00:53With myself Roshan Saleh, Sapi Saleh and also Roshan Naran who's just getting his...

00:00:58What are you getting? Thai milk tea?

00:01:00Milk Thai tea.

00:01:01Thai milk tea, sorry.

00:01:03English is my first language.

00:01:04Don't say it another way.

00:01:04We actually have a guest and he just got here.

00:01:07He's getting mic'd up as well.

00:01:09So we're gonna have a quite a wild show tonight because United are playing.

00:01:15So if you're a Tottenham fan, well done.

00:01:17If you're a Manchester United fan, well, you're done.

00:01:21And also we have the French Open final right now where Malaysia has...

00:01:29Memang dah dapat menang final.

00:01:34Men's double is Malaysia-lava Malaysia.

00:01:36Tapi kita bagi harapan kepada women's double di mana Perli dan Tina is playing in the final for the French

00:01:43Open.

00:01:43So we're looking for...

00:01:44They're meeting another set of guests...

00:01:47Players from...

00:01:49Oh, legend!

00:01:50Let him come in!

00:01:51There's two legends on the show today!

00:01:52Yay!

00:01:54Yay!

00:01:56Come and sit down.

00:01:57We have...

00:01:59Not his behind but his front!

00:02:02Oh my god, really?

00:02:04Who's joined us tonight for the last Sunday of October.

00:02:10Oh, okay.

00:02:11Yes.

00:02:11Fast.

00:02:12This is episode number 56.

00:02:14So you can speak in any language.

00:02:16Can I say something?

00:02:17This is so cool to be sitting next to him.

00:02:19Because at one point in time as a TV host, right, you'd always like read your name and talk about

00:02:24you.

00:02:24And then I had a website called Fourth Official and that thought process was to pour more homage to athletes

00:02:31from Malaysia,

00:02:32coaches, people who are running stadiums, like behind the scenes as well.

00:02:36So the sit down beside you for the first time.

00:02:38It's like me seeing Safi for the first time.

00:02:40I was like...

00:02:41Yeah!

00:02:42So I'm between two...

00:02:44Fanboy moment.

00:02:44Two sports legends here.

00:02:46So I'm like...

00:02:47Hey!

00:02:48Actually...

00:02:48I'll tell you...

00:02:50Well, actually I've got...

00:02:51I'll talk about it a bit later on.

00:02:53Okay.

00:02:54But first, before we continue...

00:02:56I want to tell you...

00:02:57I want to tell you...

00:02:57All of the viewers and listeners later...

00:02:59When we are at 12, we will start with the same time for the next episode.

00:03:07From 9.45pm...

00:03:09We will try to stop at 11.00pm.

00:03:14This is how...

00:03:15Sounds like a program election program.

00:03:17so we need to finish by 11 because you know we we're all tired and all that and

00:03:23it's it's only fair to everyone that we finish 11 not carry on until you know

00:03:29our next day we tend to go on quite a bit this is the only show it's gonna be

00:03:35like really really so if you can say anything you want without swearing

00:03:39that's yeah so uh show ni pun ada dua bahasa yeah sometimes free you but

00:04:03the first time you represented Malaysia they they said you know you're up you're

00:04:12gonna be there at the senior level not the junior levels you're gonna be up

00:04:16there with the best of the best what was that feeling like for you they never

00:04:20said that to me well whoa 1999 this is 1999 Wow like I I come back to Malaysia for the

00:04:35first time in many years right so I'm a hundred percent Americanized right so I'm

00:04:43I like come I I I come to Bukit Jalil to MSN and I bring my bike and I make

00:04:51a

00:04:52appointment with NJ Fazin the late NJ Fazin and I put my passport and I put my

00:04:58medal my US national championship medal and I said I want to represent national team

00:05:04so do you have a competition I bring my bike back my track bike also and I I stayed there

00:05:10for about seven hours the whole day to convince him to put a competition on so I can show prove

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00:05:17him my level 1999 I was 19 I was old man you're still young so that's a good question right

00:05:31you've come from another environment where

00:05:33yeah you've been training for years so you've got the best of the best in terms of you know just

00:05:38not you

00:05:39know getting your place into that that elite athlete so you've come over here what was the biggest thing for

00:05:45you in terms of like wow

00:05:47there's a big difference in terms of how we use the word professionalism but the

00:05:51approach to being a professional athlete well I mean as far as I could tell that

00:05:57they had a centralized training they had like over in the US they had Olympic

00:06:02training center and here they have MSN but they had maybe a dozen cyclists that

00:06:08were staying at Bukit Jalil and as far as I could tell they're just targeting sea

00:06:14games Asian championships they hadn't won Asian championship medal in many many years

00:06:20I forgot how many it was 20 or plus years so since uh Rossman Ali but Rossman was at the

00:06:27end

00:06:27of his career he was like 40 years old around 40 years old so I came from uh somewhat of

00:06:36a decent system in

00:06:37the US right they had a junior national championships track event that I entered was my second ever track

00:06:43event a big track event a big track event uh and I entered illegally because I was not US citizen

00:06:49everyone thought I was American because I well you're not racing right you're lucky Trump wasn't the

00:06:54president back then but carry on brother yeah I was uh I just you know nothing got in my way

00:07:01so

00:07:01my coach and I decided to enter illegally because my my license it said not a US citizen

00:07:11so I remember that uh my my coach is quite naughty my late coach Mark Whitehead he was like don't

00:07:16worry

00:07:16I will distract them and I'll cover the that everyone thinks you're American anyway because no one knows

00:07:23so then I entered and I got number two in the US junior national championship so you're saying even then

00:07:29it

00:07:29was a bit lax in terms of you know how they so when you got second uh in the juniors

00:07:35but was there any

00:07:37controversy controversy or controversy in terms of your you know because you weren't no one found

00:07:41out no one found out no one asked no one question no because after the the the race after no

00:07:46no one

00:07:47found out the only the only way they find out is they listen to you guys now or you know

00:07:51they like

00:07:52I mean I've I've been telling this story and you know in my uh kayuhan legaci negara for the rtm

00:07:59documentary

00:07:59history so I've been telling it but uh you know it's too late right it's 1998 so it doesn't matter

00:08:06now they can't take back my national medal so when you finish second in terms of the competition

00:08:12for you personally at the age of 19 what was their standard was it like like work because

00:08:18you see okay we're talking about track cycling right yeah yeah track cycling at the world level

00:08:23they had the current olympic champion by then 2020 uh uh sydney olympics where american martino style

00:08:302000 yeah he won yeah so they had a world-class program so i was training with them with so

00:08:38i got

00:08:39in my coach was best friend with the national coach so i i used to be able to train and

00:08:43i i i competed

00:08:44against the the the olympic champ and i beat him and then i was not supposed to beat him at

00:08:51disrespectful

00:08:51so he crashed me there it makes race it was very gangster back so he so it's a nudge right

00:08:57no no

00:08:57no he chopped my wheel and just crashed me in the next race because i also he was i disrespected

00:09:02him

00:09:02he was very polite that i wasn't supposed to then you know i beat him again so i i knew

00:09:06i had something

00:09:07there so if i come back then i could do some some good things so that's why i came back

00:09:12with confidence

00:09:13hey i could be olympic champion you know you know i could beat i could be number two in my

00:09:18age group

00:09:19so malaysia i can i can come here you know and and after so i convinced him and he put

00:09:26on the i was

00:09:27back for a month to make my ic because remember 1998 they had the new ic system my mom told

00:09:33me hey

00:09:35josiah if you don't make your ic because i didn't have ic i i i just had uh my my

00:09:41malaysian passport if

00:09:42you didn't make the new ic you you run the risk of losing your citizenship and i don't i'm not

00:09:47you

00:09:47citizen of then i'll be a man with no no no country yeah yeah so i could be singaporean but

00:09:52never mind oh how can i be singaporean well you know they'll accept anyone

00:09:59i'm gonna get in trouble

00:10:02at the time they would have accepted you because you know you can reach yeah become singaporean yeah

00:10:07well you know them having all the chinese you know badminton players that at the time and became

00:10:12singaporean i'm it's nothing controversial it's actually what they are studying the radio show

00:10:17okay welcome to our show this is a show where we talk about mostly football but it's football

00:10:29centric sports centric we have uh safi sally myself rashi sally and also uh roshan narayan and we've got a

00:10:35guest on tonight former olympian which actually you an ollie once an olympian always always on and ollie

00:10:41sayang uh one of our first track cyclists that people will know of yes because you know before that

00:10:48uh with a lot of questions i'm surprised they they still remember i mean about once a week twice a

00:10:55week

00:10:55i get someone to come up to me and say wow you know if they're young i'm like you're not

00:11:01you're not old

00:11:02enough oh no i watch i i i watch your podcast oh cool okay you know or or you know

00:11:09if they're older

00:11:09then they'll they'll say remember me i was in the um petro science with my kids yesterday and this uh

00:11:17this patchy come up and he started speaking me bahasa so i i understand me if i'm like 50 50

00:11:24and like you know he's asking me what i'm doing now and everything so i was like wow i was

00:11:30like happy you

00:11:31know so i mean you were born in the philippines raised in sarawak um became an athlete in the

00:11:35united states yeah road job man roger i'm true malaysian yeah but what what what what brought

00:11:41you back here what brought me back was the opportunity to make a difference you mean the

00:11:47first time or second time as a sportsman no anything anything brother as a sportsman obviously

00:11:53i have malaysian passport i had the opportunity right so for 15 years of my life until azizu came

00:11:59around i had no competition i'm automatic i'm automatic all i have to do is qualify which is hard

00:12:05so because you have to be of the world standard to qualify a small country so actually to qualify

00:12:11you actually have to be a real hitter like you you the way the system works is if you're for

00:12:16a small

00:12:17country you're definitely like at least outside chance for a medal at the olympics right so okay i i

00:12:24proved myself and i was there's benefits to being uh big fish in a smaller pond right that's so honest

00:12:33and so true it's benefits and it's the same thing i moved back in 2019 to raise a family right

00:12:40and and

00:12:41and to start my my second career my second live second chapter and sure enough it's you know of course

00:12:48the minus two three years of covid um i've been able to establish a network and you know position

00:12:56myself as a you know uh um thought leader right so i get i get invited to podcasts and uh

00:13:05i can i can

00:13:06network with high level people and i can get stuff done right so i'm doing startup now right it's called

00:13:14the olympian academy oa and my vision is that since i failed to win malaysia's first olympic gold medal

00:13:25well i have you know my body you know physically i i didn't make it happen but i can still

00:13:31contribute

00:13:31i only really took me 10 over 10 years to realize i can contribute because i have stories and i

00:13:37have the

00:13:37mindset but more importantly if you don't want me saying you have an external exposure to sports

00:13:44you see a lot of people have forgotten i mean god bless safi with his career but he walked in

00:13:50for

00:13:50a trial at the age of 19 and he killed everybody at the trial yeah that is raw talent was

00:13:57not detected

00:13:58what would have been lost i'm just talking to all of us could have been lost could have been lost

00:14:02yes

00:14:03and then he proved the point so with all that knowledge it's just that for me from the outside

00:14:08because i come from the world of media right is like why aren't we tapping into these things because

00:14:13he's come through a system whereby it worked for him in his favor not being chosen if that makes

00:14:21sense politics okay i didn't say that because see i still live here we all still live i still want

00:14:28to

00:14:28live here we know like look the reality is it happened it it 100 it's part of being a human

00:14:39in not it's not only malaysia right it's other countries too yeah 100 so it's be it's being a

00:14:45human it's it's politics will always play a role i mean look at the united states america it's a mess

00:14:52right it's a mess i don't want i don't even want to go there my whole my whole family are

00:14:56american

00:14:56are living there except for me i think so so what's this ncw for me because i love sports right

00:15:02so i read up

00:15:03about the ncw then i saw the success rate in terms of the amount of athletes that come out of

00:15:08the

00:15:08program and it's just like it's not that great it the hype is that the money is there the the

00:15:14news is

00:15:15there but the actual end result is how the united states call themselves world champions in baseball

00:15:21and you know how many countries play right venezuela won yeah yeah yeah and nf and nfl venezuela right

00:15:28beat them yeah country that has very little resources that go to the people and they call themselves world

00:15:33champions so you know that's american yeah they're really good at marketing look i i used to like i said

00:15:39i used to work for for espn you know how good the marketing is yeah it's amazing it's how what

00:15:44we do

00:15:45when we're working that but we're going to take a quick break because 30 seconds into the first segment uh

00:15:51we

00:16:04we're gonna be back second segment after this make sure that we finish by 11 okay all right so

00:16:11we'll see you guys later or join us on tiktok right now we're just waiting for the comments to come

00:16:16up yes so saya sangat bangga lah bila dapat jumpa dengan josiah sebab dulu tengok dia dan dengar nama

00:16:23dia so lepas sekarang ni josiah tengok kita punya sukan berbasikal how do you feel i mean you have

00:16:44after john yeah so how do i feel yeah okay before that you have a think but what about your

00:16:55early

00:16:55rivalry with azizul let's go right to the beginning first what was it like yeah it was it was always

00:17:01really good i mean i i i owe a lot to azizul i mean he he he's he's really humble

00:17:09and he he always thank me

00:17:10for for being you know getting his career going um but i have to thank him for saving my career

00:17:18because if i was plateaued i plateaued after 2005 2006 i couldn't find my mojo

00:17:27it got to my head right i got fedex sponsored nike came on board i had multiple girlfriend oh that's

00:17:36a

00:17:36good one as well yeah oh yeah hey it's the truth wife watching now okay so i i i a

00:17:42long time ago

00:17:43she knows all the stories she knows all the stories um and and it got to my head all of

00:17:49it

00:17:51but most of it and and you know and i couldn't find a next level and then at the same

00:17:58time the sport was

00:17:58moving on the bigger gears and i had to reinvent myself so azizul comes around and about 2008

00:18:09was when he started kicking my butt yep and i had to find another gear and luckily i found it

00:18:16by 2010

00:18:172011 and then also then he got injured so then i was number one and it was good and then

00:18:23until i got

00:18:24injured 2013 and then after that that that that wrapped up my career but i found a second breath

00:18:32when he came in when he came around so i always appreciate it we're we've always had a good

00:18:37relationship 2010 was a good year for for you guys it was 2010 yeah 11 2010 was good for malaysian

00:18:47sports

00:18:47yeah i'll tell you why can we show that the couple of photos i'll tell you why 2010 this was

00:18:55the

00:18:56commonwealth games i'm sorry this was the asian games in guangzhou oh you came to our studio in idc i

00:19:01remember your medals i remember look how young we were she is yeah do we call yourself oh i am

00:19:07i'm 54 now so remember the late oh my god oh my god yeah i remember jai is there as

00:19:13well from our

00:19:14from uh astro arena so you guys came into our studio feel like yesterday yeah is jai still with arena

00:19:20no no jai's jai's free i think freelance you know 16 years ago yes this is 16 years ago russian

00:19:26you were

00:19:26so thin yeah thanks so see we all yeah that's what you were really like 2010 yeah so yeah you

00:19:35know when

00:19:36when you when you when you're sitting beside each other right and you were talking about this

00:19:40competition what was he doing for you at that point in time that any youngster right now that who

00:19:47could try and replace him yeah should be doing if he was beating you outright like approaching every day

00:19:57is as if it's game day so i think so i i i think but i know because i i

00:20:02speak to john

00:20:04so the current times they're enjoying their lives they're enjoying they get a lot things a lot easier

00:20:10better you know it's not just not just the athletes too like normal the the the young generation

00:20:16everything's uh one button away you're hungry okay lappa make order 30 minutes so on hey you don't have

00:20:25to do anything like hard right you're bored you can youtube all day you can absolutely talk all day

00:20:33before we had to yeah in our line of work we had to go for audition after audition after audition

00:20:39so i failed every audition for five years then i got something on another radio station with another

00:20:44company yeah but nowadays you just have to switch on a camera yeah you can be famous for absolutely

00:20:50nothing yep look at kardashians okay not which one which one hey don't talk about babies like

00:20:56uh but you you can really be okay you can make more money now as a professional athlete

00:21:04i understand what you say you can get all i see it all happening in front of me and i

00:21:08i'm jealous i'm

00:21:09like i had to win to get that that garment to get yeah yeah that nike now no you just

00:21:15have

00:21:15numbers or you make good content and as long as you i qualified for the iron man i qualified for

00:21:24this extreme sport we we we call it participation participation yeah i hate participation i hate

00:21:31it's got to be competitive if i was sports minister i would make it illegal no more part you get

00:21:37a

00:21:37certificate that's all you get no medals are for winners okay so if anybody's getting angry right now

00:21:42we're not angry abroad as well this is what's killing the game for football in england because kids

00:21:48are getting million dollar contracts before they enter the league yeah in the nfl in the nba

00:21:55baseball i'm not baseball but i don't like jj again yeah kembali lagi kita dalam pemain ke-12

00:22:00bersama saya abang rasya salih salih salih salih salih dan roshan dan kita ada tetamu

00:22:06uh undangan yang saya rasa the olympian the first one yang kita oji ya hargai dah

00:22:13ollie ollie i wasn't the first though we had no first on our show oh first i was good

00:22:19your first olympian on our show so we were talking about 2010 being a really good year this is

00:22:22permain ke-12 two different radio stations two different languages all about malaysia we got

00:22:27safi who's a living legend from 2010 that breaking you know that the crazy year in football the air

00:22:32that was great suzuki cup you've got josiah as well who's represented the country at the highest level

00:22:38uh so what was your diet like when you first started when you came back you were like oh bro

00:22:46vegetarian oh my god you were vegetarian i grew up plant-based before it was cool wow my family because

00:22:53my dad's primary care doctor my mom's dietitian so i i had never eaten meat till i'm 26 years old

00:22:59so

00:22:59beasley convinced me to eat a steak john beasley john beasley jb making a steak yeah he was yeah so

00:23:05how

00:23:05did you maintain your muscle tone i didn't have i was very skinny i didn't have muscle so where did

00:23:10the power come from i mean i mean didn't have power no because okay like i like today i would

00:23:16be

00:23:16really screwed because it's all pure power but yeah uh back then was because of okay you need more

00:23:23power to do well in the sprints yes i never did very well in spin i was always care care

00:23:27and you

00:23:27can tumpang off of the other the strong guy you see even as a little much slow like like the

00:23:32different

00:23:33power difference between harry levresen or or the the australian guy right it's huge but he can beat them

00:23:41because he didn't really have that much so what is the first media chicken beef mutton that was a

00:23:54steak steak i had a steak i saw jb was we were in in melbourne i just moved there and

00:24:0006 and he said

00:24:02mate come on you got it you're getting sick too much i was low on iron right you're getting sick

00:24:06too much

00:24:06okay mate all right i'll listen to you coach said he was on the barbecue it was a hot summer

00:24:13um and then i saw blood coming out oh oh blood

00:24:21i gotta eat because i've never seen steak on the barbecue oh right because i i ate like like meat

00:24:28like like fake meat fake meat you know mock duck and stuff right mom so ah mate no worries

00:24:36you won't have to eat the blood it's gonna cookie it's cooking right now oh it's the first time my

00:24:41cousin sister shilpa saw yeah she had venison and then my late uncle said i mean my said that's bambi

00:24:48okay anyway so yeah i changed so basically um then then you know towards so what was it like the

00:24:56first

00:24:57taste well i i didn't really like it but i just ate it so i think the most no no

00:25:02the most important thing

00:25:03right now is you you changed your mindset in order to be a better athlete well i'd say he's my

00:25:08coach

00:25:08now so he's my new coach i said i'll do anything you say uh that's that's not bad for my

00:25:13health so

00:25:14like no doping or something but john you know john john's a why that's not he's a good clean coach

00:25:20yeah right no but what was that for you because you've gone vegetarian though your entire life and

00:25:24then he's like eat meat right yeah because there's a lot of like from my community as well if you

00:25:29want to

00:25:29professional athletes that culture shock is that you must have more mutton you must have more i mean

00:25:33you can't have beef but you have to more have more red meat in order to have you know so

00:25:37what was that

00:25:38culture shock for you like it was it like oh you're just like nice well i i had to get

00:25:42used to it you

00:25:43know and i started eating chicken so chicken was easier for me to to tahan right so i i ate

00:25:48more chicken

00:25:49i ate a little bit of steak um it took me a few years to really like like steak and

00:25:55then yeah and i started

00:25:57to gain like also like the age so you could get in your late 20s as the asian we can

00:26:02we can hold

00:26:03muscle better we can build muscle easier than early 20s so i went from about 74 2004 olympics normally i'm

00:26:1374 75 kilo but because i had my accident i dropped my lost muscle i went i was there at

00:26:1870 kilo but then

00:26:20after i recovered i was 75 and then when i went start to eat meat my 28 29 i was

00:26:25already like 80.

00:26:27so i packed on five kilos changed my training um but did you feel better

00:26:33oh yeah i didn't feel worse i i started to perform better ironically my best olympic result was as a

00:26:41vegetarian 2004 but my best result was as a meat eater is uh commonwealth my best year 2010 was as

00:26:49a

00:26:49meat eater so i mean there's always i mean you have i mean colleen augustine who's a mma fighter was

00:26:55she's vegan she's vegan uh who's the other guy who used to fight in the ufc the one of the

00:27:00brothers

00:27:01oh my god whatever it is he's also vegan so i mean it's it's far lewis carl lewis was oh

00:27:08my god what a

00:27:08guy i've uh i've interviewed him as well he's so cool but he i mean he yeah he's also he

00:27:17is also an

00:27:17adult yeah yeah i know we don't have much you don't have not in those days oh if you don't

00:27:22have much

00:27:23time definitely we're gonna take a break mr lewis yeah yeah but i mean if you want to listen to

00:27:28what

00:27:29i'm going to ask him uh josiah i'll just ask you to stay tuned onto our tiktok account it has

00:27:34to relate

00:27:35with if there's a young athlete right now if there's a coach in the academy or any academy

00:27:41football hockey tennis whatever it is that is working for the government what advice would you

00:27:46give the coach when it comes to handling an athlete because you've come from somewhere abroad yeah you

00:27:52have adjusted you were the first olympian yeah and hopefully if anybody wants to listen they will hear

00:27:56the results uh see you in a bit chill after this chill relax i used to do this for a

00:28:03living but your

00:28:04answer so what i would tell okay tell the athlete i want to hit the post relax um well i

00:28:14think it's easy

00:28:15now everything can come easy but everything can you you can make it there you can make an excuse quite

00:28:22easily so what i found is the resilience part needs to be built so there's going to be a lot

00:28:30of hurdles

00:28:31along the way for everyone but try to figure out a way to jump either jump over or go around

00:28:39the hurdles

00:28:40so i need either that we need to unpack that more but what i notice is like everyone as soon

00:28:46as they

00:28:46have a hurdle that's their excuse to exit that's their excuse to say to put the blame on someone

00:28:52i didn't succeed succeed because this this this but there's a many times in my life that everyone

00:29:01could could quit everyone most people would quit but i found a way found a way forward so that really

00:29:07the mindset is is is is more important than anything um it can transcend politics can transcend a series of

00:29:16challenges um like i always tell in my keynotes like i failed eight years at the global level

00:29:22to have nagaraku played global level means either asian games come all games world championships no

00:29:29not asian games i always i always won medals the commonwealth games world championships olympics

00:29:33failed for eight years from 2002 like i mean people would have been oh yeah there's a lot of pressure

00:29:40i mean i had a lot of media guys stop being my friends too uh they would they would belange

00:29:45on me and

00:29:46all of a sudden when i lost in beijing i never heard from them again so there's a lot um

00:29:51sounds

00:29:52like people from media in malaysia they're definitely malaysian but you know it's it's one of those things

00:29:59where i had that mindset that's just like okay i'm gonna prepare to get lucky right so even though like

00:30:10so i started working with sports psychologists in in 09 after i failed in beijing right so i started

00:30:17getting like thoughts in my head where i need to be on a dope plan like right so then i

00:30:23started

00:30:23researching and and then i told my gym coach because i know he was a strength uh it was a

00:30:30strong man a

00:30:31lot of strong man like power lifting coach so i know that he have the connections and so i was

00:30:36kind of

00:30:36doing my research interviewing some doctors and said man maybe that's what i need to get to the next

00:30:42level he said i've got a perfect solution here call this guy so he had just um graduated uh with

00:30:50a

00:30:50master's in sports psychology was it here no it was in australia melbourne okay so i met this guy named

00:30:55dave williams and 2009 i said look dave i i think that uh i might be ready to go on

00:31:04the plan on the on

00:31:06uh you know on the plan and and and and he says and then he started asking me and you

00:31:12know i started

00:31:13to see and he was like you know i was plant-based right so my my family's health nuts so

00:31:20he said well

00:31:21that's so he walked me through it and and tore like tore my my tore it like rebuild it up

00:31:29help me rebuild

00:31:30and he says so you know 2010 was coming up i i said look i i've failed for eight years

00:31:37since 2002

00:31:38commonwealth games until and until now i failed and and i failed miserably despite malaysia investing

00:31:47one million usd over the last four years in me alone to help me to win a medal so he

00:31:55says

00:31:56so what's your goal and i said wow well my i would like to i would like to stand on

00:32:01a podium

00:32:03he says how about how about winning how about winning i said well i mean we got olympic champion

00:32:11chris hoar we got world champ chain perkins azizu already got a silver medal at the 2009 so i said

00:32:18on my

00:32:19best day if i beat one of them then i can get but to beat all of them i'd have

00:32:23to be extremely lucky maybe

00:32:25like super lucky and he says okay let's say you're super lucky what does that look like

00:32:33and i said well i talked him through the the the post the medal ceremony you know all the pretty

00:32:41girls come give you flowers etc okay now and then what and then i said well then then then we

00:32:47threw on

00:32:48the podium and you know i sing the garaku and and he says well okay sing it

00:32:59and i'm like come on you know i i grew up in u.s uh jojo you know he's the

00:33:06aussie guy sounds like

00:33:07you're not prepared to get lucky mate so it hit me so what we were he that what he was

00:33:14doing was

00:33:14helping me manifest yeah so from there on i said okay mate i'm gonna sing nagaku every day in training

00:33:22at the track in front of azizu all that so i'll i sang it every day on my phone i

00:33:27got uh and full gas

00:33:31every day every single day with the accent yeah azizu rizal jenai all them laughing at me it was funny

00:33:38right why and every day it's like dude what are you doing bro i'm not preparing to get lucky

00:33:44so yeah that i can tell they're thinking that yeah you're gonna have to get really lucky

00:33:49but what what happened because i prepared to get lucky so things started swinging my way

00:33:55right two days before kamal came in delhi chris hoy didn't show up everyone like started to get

00:34:03around hey because we're not coming oh he's preparing for london in two years so he didn't

00:34:09want to get delhi belly lucky lucky lucky one luck so semi-finals um azizu and i was still in

00:34:20uh we were

00:34:21in different heats i let out there's like one aussie in my semi one nausea in his i let out

00:34:28full gas

00:34:28shane perkins the world champ blew by me like i was standing still but i held on i got second

00:34:35so

00:34:36top three final i was gonna make final

00:34:41five minutes later attention shane perkins has been disqualified wow technical infringement

00:34:50wow wow okay two other way too lucky i'm on how how lucky can okay all right reset final

00:34:59malaysian two malaysians azizu myself one aussie one new zealander and and and two from england

00:35:07so azizu and i wrote our hearts out one two azizu wins i got second i got my i got

00:35:15my medal

00:35:16you don't you know i got my but wait what happened okay five minutes later attention azizu gonna disqualified

00:35:23oh i sang nagaraku oh so this is the story that i tell the young people i had no business

00:35:34dreaming that

00:35:35big because i was not the best i was not number two best not number three best not number four

00:35:41best on my

00:35:41best day maybe top five maybe but i had that mindset to prepare to get lucky did i i was

00:35:52not the best

00:35:53i got lucky hands down i got lucky the best guy was chris hoy shane perkins azizu hasni awang

00:36:00you know until i hold the gold medal brother sitting beside you you you you speak with confidence right i

00:36:05mean we'll go back on radio in a bit and perhaps i'll ask you this question in terms of you

00:36:10know when

00:36:10you have this exposure where somebody abroad has told you like safi's had international coaches not in

00:36:16the club level also but international level he's going to you know when you start welcome back to

00:36:22permayan kadoblas it is uh one show two different languages two different radio stations one tiktok

00:36:29account where it's split into two it's all about malaysia we've got the living legend safi sally

00:36:34rashid saleh and josiah with us the first olympian for us at least on the show so now we're legitimate

00:36:39we've got our lumpian on he's been talking about mentality so 2010 we go back best year for us in

00:36:46terms of sports safi winning the eff you represent the country at the highest level and you just

00:36:51explain how despite all the odds disqualification after disqualification you ended up becoming a

00:37:00medal winner it's not made with a gold medal but do you think malaysian athletes since you've been back

00:37:07have that mentality which you had to say despite i'm not the best i might not finish first i might

00:37:13not

00:37:13finish second i still want to be there and try and win i mean i can't speak for every malaysian

00:37:19athlete

00:37:20but um if i can talk about track cycling um when i had a conversation john beasley he's just said

00:37:27azizu

00:37:28is the only one that has that mentality that really not menang uh attitude really really everything he

00:37:36does not menang he needs to win the need to win yeah right when you show up for training

00:37:44you want to kill everybody yeah most athletes right it's right here most athletes like okay you know

00:37:50they lay pot they're on the phone yeah dude when azizu and i back in the day we we show

00:37:56up at training it

00:37:56was business it was freaking business and we would have our fun we would go yeah let's mess them up

00:38:04right and we would really whack them and we enjoyed whacking each other the more we threw up after

00:38:12training that during training and i enjoy because i have high tolerance lactic tolerance so i i didn't

00:38:17really like like munta right i was a little low lactic tolerance always so in the gym or anything i

00:38:23i took

00:38:24joy in watching him suffer and probably he took joy in watching us everyone else suffer so that's the

00:38:30mentality it's just we are competitive sadistic no kill or be killed bro i mean right you'd always

00:38:36hear stories about michael jordan and scotty pippen right yeah you know i remember all of the stories

00:38:41they're in the same team but they all wanted to be number one and they found a way to work

00:38:45together

00:38:45whereas your spot is more of an individual right yeah it was a teamwork yeah it's a little bit different

00:38:51it's a little bit different so did it ever get to a point where it might have got a bit

00:38:57negative

00:38:57between you and azizul in terms of competition not hate really weird never not that i can recall

00:39:05never and and we we look like we work together but we never we never fix race we never plan

00:39:11like i'm

00:39:11gonna leave you protect me i blah blah blah never we just race but we always look like we we

00:39:16help each

00:39:16other which maybe we did but like when we when the asian championships was in cheras here in 2012

00:39:24i won and he got second and then the two japanese got third and fourth so it looked like we

00:39:29fixed it

00:39:30we we we worked together but we didn't so it was it was kind of it was very very unusual

00:39:37is it unusual

00:39:38when you very unusual when you hear him going against like the committee or whoever's in charge

00:39:42of cycling saying i want more support i want more support i want more support and he's like fighting for

00:39:48help or assistance because he's our creme de la creme in terms of the better athletes right yeah

00:39:53so yeah what is your take on that well i was pretty sad that he a guy like that has

00:40:00given so much has

00:40:01to do that right i don't i don't know all the details behind it but i just know that

00:40:09you know like i i know that something needs to be fixed it's systemic right it needs to be fixed

00:40:17but

00:40:17i don't know if we can get there because um like okay i always share that leadership needs to be

00:40:23an

00:40:23expert so in france if you are in leadership in sports you're probably olympian or olympic gold medalist

00:40:31you know their sports minister is olympian versus okay versus our sport you know our sports ministers

00:40:40like they they inherit that seat on their way up so it's like it's like the leftover like you know

00:40:46everyone around macaan okay yeah sports ministry okay you you got to pay your dues right so if we get

00:40:54lucky we get a we get someone that really loves sports right so kj right he loves sports okay we

00:41:00had some

00:41:00good years with him right costles a lot of money but we had some good years um and then we

00:41:06had someone

00:41:07that was really you know um hannah yo was good on um you know more structure but then she's only

00:41:16in

00:41:17there a short time that you can't make real change so someone that really understands sport i don't know

00:41:23we've had a a sport minister that really understands sport has seen all the systems knows what just what

00:41:33works and what doesn't you know i'm not saying me but like i know i would never be a politician

00:41:39but

00:41:39like someone like me who's seen it all who kind of knows like how how how to how to produce

00:41:48performance

00:41:48like like like i i was um um um mind uh mindset coach and strength conditioning for zk racing hakim

00:41:56danish um shari food and osman uh adam noradin you know ibrahim noradin i know nothing about moto gp

00:42:05but within 12 months everyone was hit their kpis right even and another noradin who did a cev

00:42:14european championships his best for two seasons past was fifth place when i worked with him we

00:42:21said okay what's your i did the same thing that dave did with me what's your goal and we worked

00:42:26it

00:42:26really in detail he said three three three podiums he finished that year with three podiums

00:42:34so you know it works but people that like our leadership has to understand

00:42:41real depth and how from from grassroots on up but how how can that be when

00:42:49they're not specialist yep special so nanti kita akan sambung lagi selepas ini dalam pemain ke-12

00:42:56jumpa lagi korang in a bit

00:43:01too deep no no dude i mean see at the end of it for me is like people talk the

00:43:05talk and then walk the walk

00:43:07it's it's a big mystery i'd say for example i would like to have like the likes of safi inside

00:43:11football the administrative side because he's gone abroad he's seen things work up in different

00:43:16different countries he's i don't know what i i don't think he's politically inclined to anybody

00:43:21he wants the best right yeah so likewise with you it's an external look or exposure in terms of how

00:43:28sports is done which is very refreshing because you got your training elsewhere so we're seeing that in

00:43:33football right you got your people that are malaysian heritage are being brought back but for me what

00:43:38i would like to see is people such as yourself or whoever who go to the youngsters and encourage them

00:43:44and say this is what you want to hit it's not like uh sabala yeah you know let's try tomorrow

00:43:51no

00:43:51you want to go out there and kill like bergson is playing from play for malaysia there is no tomorrow

00:43:56i mean yeah for what you said as well the way i got into this industry that there was no

00:44:00tomorrow

00:44:01you have to be better than everybody else you have to be number one if you're not number one

00:44:06you should not be in media you should not be in sports that is my humble and correct opinion so

00:44:12how do you translate that to younger kids who are there in the system anywhere what would you do

00:44:18first of all i i when i hear you say i i think it's not down we can't point that

00:44:23at kids that you got to

00:44:24fix the kid the kids i think it's it's it starts with systems so i think our systems are broken

00:44:32already for example sukma who wins sukma i don't know in other sports but in cycling national team

00:44:40athletes win sukma but isn't sukma to un to kind of unpack who's the next who's the next potential so

00:44:49that you can give put them on a national team but because of politics all the state want to win

00:44:55the

00:44:55number one blah blah blah so they take all the national team riders to the state team to win a

00:45:01sukma gold medal but actually they didn't produce that the national team did so that's a problem

00:45:07that's just the basic thing that i want to challenge every sports minister in the future whoever

00:45:13fix that first will have my vote i just like to say i'm sitting beside josiah i mean safi even

00:45:24for

00:45:24for you right even for rugby as well it's the same thing that's echoed over and over again

00:45:29so is there a short-term fix is there a long-term fix what would you just i mean you've

00:45:35stated the goal

00:45:35right yeah but how do you erase everything of the past that is set in stone in terms of how

00:45:41things work

00:45:41work can you well yeah it starts by having conversations like this but we have to do it

00:45:47over and over and over again and everyone has to be doing it then we have to pressure the decision

00:45:52makers into it because if they know the blueprint is there and everyone can look it up and put it

00:45:58through clod or gpt and then then they go okay that is actually the best way then they'll have no

00:46:05choice eventually to make change like sukma changing the format and then they guess okay you have to

00:46:13be a certain age but i know personally athletes that find a sport at 20 21 22 23 years old

00:46:21and end up

00:46:23being world champ or olympic medalists i know many a handful at least it happens in football as well it

00:46:30would not happen in malaysia yeah it doesn't happen in malaysia because we look at your age well aziz

00:46:37has proved that age is a number in here at 38 he's winning he won everything this year except for

00:46:45world

00:46:46championships because by that time he's already tired for sure 38 years old that there's your proof

00:46:55forget forget they're focusing the wrong thing forget age it's be on merit on merit and then structure

00:47:03it and then nothing make the private system do more work here everything look to msn mssn right kbs

00:47:16everything that relies on that okay other countries canada new zealand australia u.s it's all privatized

00:47:23yep all the it's all privatized set the system up for all the states you have to produce so like

00:47:30okay cycling again i can only speak on cycling first for example mncf say okay the states in order for

00:47:36you

00:47:36to be state coach and if order for you to get a a license to run you need to have

00:47:44this many races and

00:47:45you have to find this many talent or in a certain participation or else you're out you get replaced it

00:47:53it has to be then they're doing the grassroot work don't leave it to national like in i don't know

00:47:59in

00:48:00football but in malay in malaysian cycling it's a junior cycling malaysia we spend so much money on

00:48:06junior cycling malaysia australia do spend they invest a fraction of that and they get world tour riders

00:48:14tour de france riders medalists from every competition out the gazoo many many many right

00:48:23it's because it's localized then it's it's every the structure is there to promote so all races

00:48:30over there you can you when i lived in australia right you can monday you have a race within half

00:48:36hour drive tuesday you have another race and every club hosts the race it doesn't happen here no

00:48:43once every one month at the most so an australian versus malaysian australian

00:48:49by the end of the month has already competed 20 30 times malaysian one time but but malaysian race

00:48:57wow they have the vip area they got maka they got the they got the wow everything's like wow like

00:49:05big

00:49:05race man it's like olympic games right the medals are heavy in australia you have one belt one guy and

00:49:12then

00:49:12volunteer one belt you know last lap that's it and then one guy right on his okay good good job

00:49:20high

00:49:20five done go home that's it so but they're getting competition over and over in malaysia we the problem

00:49:28we have to outdo we have to you know you have to put a show yeah you have to put

00:49:33a show up yes you have

00:49:34to see the doctor done three here sit here dude just focus on grassroots and another thing like

00:49:44like stadiums right we have a world-class stadium velodromes right we have we have nilai how much

00:49:52that cost what the supposedly 80 million why don't we have a basic track in every state that one i

00:49:59agree that's that the facility i agree so so i mean okay so we're going to go back on radio

00:50:05i mean just

00:50:06see we had an entire episode yeah but see for me at the end of the day and i think

00:50:11all of us here as

00:50:11well as is someone is brave enough to say whatever you're saying right now it's going to be taken two

00:50:16ways safi just wanna start anyway yeah kembali lagi kita dalam pemain ke-12 dan kita bersama

00:50:21dengan josiah eng story dia sangat-sangat menarik dan kalau korang nak tahu lagi nanti korang

00:50:28boleh tengok dekat tiktok dan youtube kita dalam pemain ke-12 dan lesina dan mix.my so ramai juga

00:50:34yang bertanya dalam tiktok okay um ada tanya john basically going to japan who do you think is good choice

00:50:44to

00:50:45it i don't think anyone's going to replace him i submitted a name um to who uh to msn

00:50:54that i thought that i spoke to them because i have all the contacts i have all their numbers

00:50:59and this guy who was the ex uk french coach national coach uk national coach he's not a u.s

00:51:07national

00:51:07coach but they don't pay him there very much so he's open but of course i don't think anything happened

00:51:15but uh they don't pay him in the u.s he was paid not enough to survive about so basically

00:51:22every coach

00:51:22here in malaysia then basically look no i mean like no the u.s national team is paying him like

00:51:27minimum

00:51:28wage right now so he moved from uk to france no france to uk and then now us but it's

00:51:35not sustainable so

00:51:36he's looking for opportunities so we could have gotten him wow but yeah so that's that myth right you think

00:51:43these people get so much money abroad but when they come here they get better pay we pay well like

00:51:49john john busy was paid probably according to john he said he's the top one of the top paid coaches

00:51:54in

00:51:54the world you know cycling in cycling in cycling in cycling so cycling mostly like even to get six figure

00:52:02usd 100 000 above it's very very hard um but there's only a handful of them making that level

00:52:10um japan china um you can't compete with china bro that's a machine more than an athlete

00:52:18yeah china's another animal we we can't even compare we can't even compare so just from being a

00:52:25neutral right and i i when russia will vouch for this we have interviewed so many characters over the

00:52:31life throughout the career right but you're the most boisterous you've just spoken your mind that's why i'm not of

00:52:37a

00:52:37job i'm not in the system anymore no so we actually a big producer he has four pages of topics

00:52:43to talk

00:52:43about today but you've just been going at it yeah does honesty not get you a job or does just

00:52:54you know

00:52:55playing the game get you to a situation whereby you get your foot in but then you don't deserve results

00:53:02or don't you know well in our system you have to play like i'm filtered out because i chose to

00:53:09leave

00:53:09but i it's it's why did you leave not not sustainable like i go state level i like look i

00:53:17had no resource

00:53:18to to coach thailand and within nine months i made a miracle happen there's world number one two and three

00:53:25japan and azizu and he was world champ that year i took world number 52 to beat all of them

00:53:32on the

00:53:32best day on the most important day at the asian games and what do i get for that nothing so

00:53:39it just

00:53:39goes to show that no i moved back and you know um shapawi told me unfortunately the exco you voted

00:53:48unanimously

00:53:51not to have you on the team maybe i'm a troublemaker which i am because i'm focused on performance

00:54:00nothing but performance only and then sarah picked me up i helped them go from the the sutma they were

00:54:08okay team pursuit is is is endurance i know nothing about endurance but i can figure out okay i'll help

00:54:14them the last sutma and pera they were last close to last outside the top 10 right 452

00:54:24and throughout covet i helped them to get 417. unfortunately teringanu with the national team

00:54:33riders beat us by less than one second into the final or else we automatically silver we even we ended

00:54:39up

00:54:40fourth right joho teringanu barak sarah but i helped them it's the mindset so then after that i didn't

00:54:51get anyone offering me so then i okay i you know um zulfami asked me to help him for mindset

00:55:01for his

00:55:02athletes because they they they needed that so i helped them and over the next nine months again help

00:55:08them achieve their best right um charford and azman was junior world champion the first junior world

00:55:16champion well junior gp champion i mean he won one round right we never done that uh and then hakim

00:55:25danish the whole everyone performed

00:55:29okay we've got about 40 seconds left on okay and we have to end the show apparently at 11 o

00:55:34'clock as well

00:55:35oh wow if you have one message to any leader right now not in sports but in politics as well

00:55:41that could

00:55:41make a change what would you be your 15 second pitch to them right now focus on grassroots structure

00:55:50making it so that states have an incentive to really drive programs and be competitive with each other

00:56:00not just one time every year or one time every other year at sutma but year-round

00:56:06simple absolutely well thanks for listening to us on radio right now i mean rashid safi myself and

00:56:12the living legend josiah with us right now on paman kadu bless it's all about malaysia it's all about

00:56:17support it's all about love thank you see you next week if there's next week yeah

00:56:22that's okay uh i mean do we have a bit more time or okay so brother can i be honest

00:56:28with you since

00:56:29now we're on tick tock yeah you're too honest for your own good love bro i am so who's asked

00:56:36you didn't

00:56:36kiss because i have that same problem i got canned for a month if i if i knew who's asked

00:56:44to kiss i'd probably

00:56:45have a job no okay like uh i live in damansara heights not far from yb um not yb but

00:56:53um uh kj kj

00:56:55don't talk to me he pretends not to know me ever since i believe i said something about the velodrome

00:57:02where i recommended his his team and i said look what are you doing don't build nilai build velodromes

00:57:11in every state and we'll be in 20 years we'll be unstoppable not even 20 in 10 years we'll be

00:57:17unstoppable we'll build the factory build the factory don't build a white elephant i told them

00:57:24that i told dax i told all of them but they didn't listen not only me john beasley a lot

00:57:31of people told

00:57:31them but they never listen i mean it doesn't make sense like 80 million even 40 million you can build

00:57:4110 velodromes and make it like a park so in australia all of the ones are in parks anyone can

00:57:49ride

00:57:49anytime 24 7. but like here i went to thing i knew see the velodrome locked it's locked what are

00:57:58they

00:57:58scared of it's concrete what are they scared of idiots so i'll tell i'll call i'll call them out but

00:58:06it's just the simplest thing dude get the community involved community is what drives like if you have

00:58:14like for example pickleball paddle government doesn't have to put any money in it's it's the growth is

00:58:22by i just came from a battle competition do you know what's a prize for the second place so we

00:58:28have

00:58:28done futsal you played you played it no no i didn't my friend's sister was playing so we just uh

00:58:33went to show support today today i just came from there directly yeah so we have played i mean we

00:58:38have seen futsal competitions for kids and all that stuff the second place bro second place is 30 grand

00:58:46do you know how much a team would futsal would win five two two thousand wow and none of these

00:58:54people are

00:58:55struggling for money by the way in paddle or pickle i mean maybe okay i do apologize there might be

00:59:00somebody

00:59:00that's you know from a different background and they're trying to earn a money earn an income but

00:59:05those people they're definitely of a different caliber but that's 30 grand for second place you

00:59:09know because it's community driven i'm a paddle player now that's all i do i go coffee shop ride or

00:59:14i'm a paddle so i'm gonna bust my pain very hard no again i i had to learn it's a

00:59:21completely that i have

00:59:22everyone's the oh limpy you'd be good terrible man i had to learn man but yeah like it's it's the

00:59:29private

00:59:30you you build this you know you let them do their thing you don't stop step in

00:59:35but if you do go in right brother if you don't go in you're going to go into a system

00:59:39with your

00:59:40mindset and what you're going to face is there is a history of a system that operates one particular way

00:59:45yeah yeah if you're going to go in there you have to shake it shake the tree that's the problem

00:59:50then you

00:59:50i would come and shake the tree so everyone want to like you know like kita jaga kita i don't

00:59:57play

00:59:57that game that's the problem i mean performance this is one different show altogether i'm gonna make

01:00:06more enemies i know i don't you know no no i just tell you how it's not about making enemies

01:00:11dude i

01:00:11would love to i would love to be i would love kj to be here i could tell him but

01:00:15yeah it's not gonna

01:00:17happen no i mean we were watching the game slango versus coaching by the way which was such a good

01:00:21game it was a fun game i enjoyed it 2-1 to slango and we were sitting there and i

01:00:26told rashid there's

01:00:27a lot of uncles looking at us at the vip box so yeah so so for me like you stir

01:00:34it up no no it's not

01:00:35stirring up bro listen i i'm not here to make enemies but i mean i i'm i'm on your boat

01:00:39i am very

01:00:40very similar to you but i think you know the the challenge is is all these people when you talk

01:00:46like

01:00:47this you're saying oh you're a you're you're an idiot you're a clown you're wrong it's it they don't

01:00:53see what good you're trying to do but you're just going to come and say oh i don't need to

01:00:57deal with

01:00:57this i just need to brush it aside whereas here it's all about like you know just i won't say

01:01:03it's

01:01:04just managing egos so you come from a good spot right so i as boisterous as you are i actually

01:01:10have

01:01:10heard everything you've said yeah so i also have this problem internally we have had this discussion

01:01:16in terms of where the show goes as well so i've always voiced my opinion as well yeah because

01:01:19at the end when i said earlier on you have to be number one if you don't want to be

01:01:24this is not the

01:01:25industry be it media or sports you cannot nobody ever like would you send your kids into a race and

01:01:31say

01:01:31finish fourth no way i mean for fun in kindergarten maybe but if you're a professional athlete

01:01:37no by the time they're teenagers yeah it's business it's either you're there or you're like you know

01:01:43you might have to look for something else yeah so i understand where you're coming from and perhaps

01:01:47you you just need like a buffer between you and these other people that will just translate or

01:01:53loosen it up but whatever you've said i don't think you've said anything wrong yeah you've spoken

01:01:58your mind and at the end of the day unlike other politicians or people in positions that are higher up

01:02:04you represent the country at the highest level yeah likewise with him i mean even rashid as well i've never

01:02:11been an athlete he's been a professional athlete for rugby in malaysia and now he is representing the

01:02:17the scenes behind whereas i come from a very different area whereby you see all of these things

01:02:23and there's good people here is just a lot of thing is lost in translation because it's fragile egos

01:02:31oh yeah i recognize that that's and i've always said this to anybody i worked with if i disagree with

01:02:37you

01:02:37it'll be privately yeah but in the forefront will always be one team i mean at the end of the

01:02:43day

01:02:43that is what the thing is right team safi all right that's all the time we have for just to

01:02:49let you guys

01:02:49know what the score is i respect you brother thank you bonnemouth leading united 2-0 uh hall is leading

01:02:56brentford 1-0 crystal palace is uh draw 0-0 and liverpool's leading brighton

01:03:032-0 so that's the football score so we're gonna say thank you very much jazai for joining us for

01:03:14this show and giving us so much basically what what we were wanting to hear for the whole show anyway

01:03:22but from me safi and roshan thank you very much for watching us we'll see you again for the next

01:03:26episode

01:03:27for my youtube us bye-bye

01:04:00bye-bye

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