00:00What about your early rivalry with Azizul? Let's go right to the beginning first.
00:04What was it like? It was always really good. I mean, I owe a lot to Azizul.
00:11I mean, he's really humble and he always thanked me for getting his career going.
00:21But I have to thank him for saving my career. Because if I was plateaued, I plateaued after
00:282005-2006. I couldn't find my mojo. It got to my head, right? I got FedEx sponsored,
00:37Nike came on board. I had multiple girlfriends. Oh, that's a good one as well.
00:42Hey, it's the truth. Wife watching now?
00:48She knows all the stories. She knows all the stories. And it got to my head.
00:54Not all of it. But most of it. And I couldn't find a next level. And then at the same
01:03time,
01:03the sport was moving on the bigger gears. And I had to reinvent myself. So Azizul comes around
01:10and about 2008 was when he started kicking my butt. Yep. And I had to find another gear.
01:20And luckily, I found it by 2010-2011. And then also then he got injured. So then I was number
01:26one.
01:27And it was good. And then until I got injured 2013. And then after that, that wrapped up my career.
01:33But
01:34I found a second breath. When he came in. When he came around. So I always appreciate it. We've
01:41always had a good relationship.
