00:00A question on these energy bill payments, the £100 payments.
00:03Do you worry that many of them will go into the pockets of wealthy landlords?
00:07And indeed, do you know if you're incitled to one of these payments for one of your properties?
00:11Oh, I've no doubt.
00:12I mean, that's the trouble, isn't it?
00:13When benefits are universal, you've got to ask the question whether they're really benefits.
00:18I mean, the same thing went for the winter fuel payment.
00:21You know, it didn't matter what size property you own.
00:23Rob, do you want to say something on this?
00:25The point I'd make is 100 quid once is not an answer to this problem.
00:31We want to actually fix this in the long term.
00:33And the only way you're going to do that is by bringing down the cost of energy in this country.
00:38And I thought that there was a lot of brass neck from John Healy to say that their policy was
00:42now cheap energy.
00:44When with the next breath, he said he'd continue with net zero 2050.
00:48Those two are incompatible.
00:50They're totally incompatible.
00:52You're not going to be able to have sensible energy prices for people's homes, sensible energy prices for British industry.