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00:00Please give a huge round of applause, Dr. Sudeepto Pekrasi and Dr. Kareen Pekrasi.
00:05Please join us here on stage.
00:08For those of you who don't know them, let me give you a brief introduction.
00:14Dr. Sudeepto has spent more than four decades doing eye surgeries
00:19and was amongst the early adopters of the modern cataract technology that came into India.
00:25And interestingly, as you've just got a glimpse of over here,
00:28outside the operating theatre, he is a rock singer, he is a guitarist,
00:36he is an Indian classical vocalist, he is a sarodh player, he is a rally driver,
00:43he is a trekker, photographer, sculptor, filmmaker and calligrapher.
00:47That's it.
00:50And then let me get to his even better half.
00:54I have with me Dr. Kareen over here.
00:56She just doesn't work alongside with him and has been working alongside him for decades.
01:03She herself is a painter.
01:04She's an author.
01:05She's a poet.
01:06She's a singer, pianist and a dancer and talks about herself as a lifelong learner
01:13who keeps picking up new skills.
01:16So clearly this is a match made in heaven and I have the absolute privilege of introducing
01:24the Pakrasis to the world because they are famous for shying away from the cameras.
01:28They are famous for staying not on social media, exactly the contrary to the next segment that
01:34you're going to see in this summit as well.
01:37So hello, let me start with the context for which we really want to have this conversation.
01:48Dr. Sudeepto, there was a time in India where a cataract surgery or any eye surgery for that
01:53matter meant that you had to walk around with a strap on your eye for weeks, if not months.
01:59Now, you have tech available in India that in two minutes, as long as it takes to make
02:06some very unhealthy noodles, you are able to operate on people.
02:12Tell me all about it.
02:14Thank you, Sonal, for the very elaborate introduction which you don't deserve, I guess.
02:20So, you know, my journey started about 42 years ago when I started my ophthalmology.
02:25So, that's the time when I joined cataract, I believe you know what it is, a clear lens
02:30of the eye which becomes hazy or opaque is called a cataract.
02:34So, the only treatment available is surgical.
02:36So, when we joined, what we found in 1984 was five injections around the eye, a huge cut
02:42given around the eye, the lens taken away and thrown away.
02:46So, in the last four decades, what we have witnessed as technological advancements, every
02:52eight to ten years, something comes which blows our minds away.
02:55So, the first thing which happened, I remember, in 1985, the lens which was taken out, we
03:01started putting lenses back into the eye for the first time and that changed the quality
03:06of life for people.
03:07They started seeing mostly without glasses.
03:09Then, about ten years later, we started a new technology when the large incision, like
03:15a laparoscopic surgery, was replaced, you know, with a small incision.
03:20So, we used to go through a small hole into the eye, crush the cataract, suck it out.
03:24This was a technology called phaco emulsification.
03:27This changed the quality of life for people after the surgery immensely.
03:32And then, we started doing surgeries without any anesthesia way back nearly 30 years ago.
03:37A few years later, we started getting different kinds of lenses which were again a huge advancement
03:43in technology that the people, instead of wearing glasses now, were mostly being able to see
03:48everything without the glasses.
03:50These were bifocal lenses.
03:52Ten years later, the trifocal lenses came.
03:55The newer technology of laser-based surgeries came.
03:58And just last year, we did start something called 4D technology for cataract.
04:03Now, what I'm coming to is that, you know, like the journey between a bullock cart and
04:07inter-space travel, we have seen the works and how people used to be straddled, as you
04:13said rightly, with bandages.
04:15Today, people just get up and go to work.
04:17So, technically, it has been a huge advancement.
04:20However, we have to be careful because the point is you cannot run after a technique or
04:25a machine or something which you say, that's what I want.
04:29You cannot go to a doctor and say, I want that lens.
04:32I want this technique.
04:33Because everything has to be decided by the surgeon, by the doctor, and he is to help
04:39you.
04:39So, I think, in a nutshell, what I can say is that where we are today, we are able to
04:45give huge amounts of options to the people to choose.
04:49And the technology is one, but standing behind that is a human being, the surgeon, who has
04:54to make it right for you.
04:56But I have to address the elephant in the room.
04:59You say you make people not need glasses.
05:02But you wear one.
05:03I love it.
05:05I love to wear glasses.
05:06These are Gandhi glasses.
05:08All right.
05:09I can't contest it because I am chashmish, as they say myself.
05:13But Karen, let me come to you.
05:14We are at very interesting times where so much advancement has been made, and yet we see new
05:20issues emerging.
05:22I'm not very sure if even, say, two decades ago or 10 years ago, we had so many young kids
05:28come up in clinics and talk about or have eye issues or perhaps discuss air pollution-related
05:35eye issues, dry eye as well.
05:38We are all talking about the long screen time that people have.
05:42Could you break it down for our audience on what is the reason behind all these ailments
05:49that are coming in?
05:50See, there is something which is being predicted to be the explosion of myopia.
05:59Myopia is that kind of refractive error where you get a minus number.
06:04So there are two kinds of numbers that you can get, three actually.
06:08One is plus number, the other is minus number, and the other is astigmatism.
06:13So astigmatism is the shape of the eye.
06:15You can't do anything about that.
06:17It usually doesn't change unless you have another condition called keratoconus.
06:22Then you get a plus number.
06:24Plus numbers also usually children are born with a smaller eye which grows in time, and
06:30they can come down with time.
06:31You can get squints because, but the thing we are talking about here now is myopia.
06:37Myopia is the minus number.
06:38Why are we so interested about making the connection between myopia and screens?
06:44It's not about the screen.
06:46It's about the distance of the screen.
06:49You see, God has given it, the human body is very ergonomically designed.
06:54This is the distance at which we are supposed to hold things when we read and write.
07:00There was a huge surge of myopia during COVID because people were working from home, children
07:06were working from home, and people were keeping things on their laps.
07:11That is not okay.
07:12So the message that needs to go home is this, that it is not your screen that is making you
07:20get eye strain or myopia or increase, it is the distance at which you keep it.
07:27So basically, when you are keeping the distance too close, your eyes have to accommodate more.
07:36Accommodation is a near vision complex.
07:38So that accommodation can actually cause your eye to grow in length over time.
07:45That's one thing.
07:47The second thing is the exposure to sunlight.
07:50There is a lot now which is being said.
07:53Earlier we would say, oh, you were born with a tendency to developing myopia.
07:58That is partly true.
07:59But it is also contributed to by lack of exposure to sunlight.
08:06There is actually, there are studies which have shown that there is a direct relationship
08:12between children who don't play in the sun enough.
08:16Two hours is what you need to be in the sun every day in order to expose your retina to
08:23dopamine
08:23so that the retina remains stable.
08:27But this is for children.
08:29Then when we are talking about screens in adults, we are talking about the near vision complex
08:35and the strain because of the increased accommodation and of course the fact that we don't blink enough.
08:41So when we blink, we also relax the accommodation.
08:46There is something which we call a 20-20-20 rule.
08:50That 20-20 rule is basically every 20 minutes, take your eyes off the screen and look 20 feet away
08:59so that, you know, you can, your muscles can relax.
09:03And yeah, it's a long discussion, but we don't have that.
09:07No, I love the checklist that you've just put out for us, right?
09:10And I think it's great information for people that screens are not the problem.
09:14The distance they are at from your eyes are the problem, right?
09:18Your hours perhaps matter, but not as much as the number of times you're blinking
09:23and then the exposure to the sun.
09:25And the dry eyes basically comes, you know, because when you're in front of the screen
09:30and you're concentrating, what you automatically do is,
09:34the closer the screen is, the more your eyes open to concentrate.
09:39And the more you concentrate, the less you blink.
09:42So you need to break that cycle.
09:45Yeah.
09:45You know, but...
09:46Can I add a line to it?
09:47Yes.
09:47You know, it's often said that myopia, the minus number, is a price we are paying for civilization.
09:53We have moved from the Farpoint culture as hunters in periodic times
09:57to everybody on screens today.
09:59So that's the price we are paying for it now.
10:01Fascinating indeed.
10:02But, you know, you say about two hours in the sun.
10:05I'm just thinking like a practical mom
10:09because we are in a very polluted season, back in the very polluted season.
10:13Is air pollution a factor, Dr. Subdipto?
10:16It's a huge factor because a couple of things which the air pollution does,
10:20there's a whole lot of these unwanted chemicals and hydrocarbons, et cetera,
10:24floating in the environment.
10:26And along with that, we are mostly sitting in air-conditioned environments.
10:29So firstly, the eyes are getting very dry with the...
10:31and also the exposure to the screens.
10:34Number two, all the pollutants in the air,
10:37they are very toxic because they come in touch with the tear film,
10:40they become acidic in nature.
10:42So your tear film is actually getting acidic,
10:44with which you're getting itching, irritation, discomfort,
10:47some foreign body sensation into the eye.
10:49So as a fallacy, most people, what they try and do
10:52is start washing their eyes with water, which is a very bad idea.
10:56Bad idea?
10:57Very bad idea.
10:58Some people try and use rose water.
11:00Some people use some different chemicals
11:02or some homeopathic medication, whatsoever.
11:04The reason why it's a bad idea is,
11:06A, we never drink tap water, unlike when we were children.
11:10We always have filtered water, RO water, mineral water, et cetera.
11:13But the point is that, firstly, when you're splashing water,
11:18the little lubrication which is left in the eye,
11:20you're washing it away.
11:21So the eyes are actually getting more dry.
11:24So you do not need to wash the eyes.
11:26And most people say, in pollution, wash your eyes.
11:29Never, ever do that.
11:30If at all, use a lubricating,
11:33a kind of a preservative-free lubricant
11:35that's going to work very effectively for you.
11:37You should never, ever, ever put water into the eye.
11:40That's one message which I want to give to people
11:42because this, all of us have been brought up
11:44by our grandmothers saying,
11:46cheetah maro, cheetah maro, et cetera, et cetera.
11:48Please never do that.
11:49So pollution is a huge factor.
11:51We mostly ask people to remain indoors.
11:54If you're wearing contact lenses,
11:55you should try and not use the contact lenses.
11:58Please don't put any makeup
11:59if you are fond of putting makeup inside the eye.
12:02Any chemical in the eye is going to actually
12:04be counterproductive for you.
12:06Oh, God.
12:07This is clearly eye-opening for me.
12:09Not to splash water in the eye.
12:11Well, that's the opposite
12:12of what we actually recommend at home.
12:14So this is great learning
12:15for all of us over here as well.
12:17But can I ask you one more question on that?
12:20You know, with air pollution,
12:22we now know that N95 masks
12:24can protect our lungs at least.
12:26There's nothing protecting our eyes.
12:28So how does one go about it?
12:30What we don't think of the second level
12:34is that the pollution goes into your system
12:38through your lungs.
12:39So N95 will work for everything.
12:42But your eyes,
12:43if you want to directly protect them,
12:45you need glasses
12:46which have those things on the side, you know.
12:49Because there is so much space
12:52between your glasses and your eyes
12:54that it's impossible for you
12:55to prevent the, you know,
12:58the air from touching your eyes really.
13:00So apart from just staying at home,
13:04there's, obviously we can't do that.
13:06So N95 is...
13:08You mentioned lubricants.
13:09Do you have some recommendations?
13:11So, you know,
13:11people will often tell us that,
13:14oh, how do you say that my eyes are dry,
13:17but my eyes water so much.
13:20So you see,
13:21there is a...
13:22That is one,
13:23another reason
13:23why you don't need to wash your eyes.
13:25So whenever you have
13:27a foreign body sensation,
13:29your brain senses
13:30that there is something wrong
13:32with the surface of the eye.
13:34You see,
13:34this is the feedback mechanism
13:35that's going on.
13:36So the eyes feed the brain
13:39and say,
13:39oh, I need water.
13:41And the brain sends the water,
13:44which the tears,
13:45which come from your emotional tears,
13:47which are different
13:48from the tears
13:49that are in your eyes.
13:50So basically,
13:51with exposure to pollution,
13:53what happens is,
13:54the surface of your eye,
13:57which actually the tear film
13:59has three layers.
14:00The outermost layer
14:01is a lipid layer
14:02that gets attacked
14:03by the pollutants
14:05and they break up
14:06the surface area.
14:08So when the surface area breaks up,
14:10your eyes don't get equally,
14:12you know,
14:13like watered down.
14:16So one of the things
14:17that they do say
14:18is that,
14:19you know,
14:20blink more often.
14:21When you blink more often,
14:24what happens is,
14:25your tears resurface.
14:27So a lot of people
14:29who have this issue
14:30with dryness,
14:31if they just blink more often,
14:34they'll be fine.
14:35And of course,
14:36tear substitutes,
14:38especially tear substitutes,
14:40you know,
14:40I don't want to mention
14:41any names and all that.
14:43It's not,
14:43like,
14:44but we have so many,
14:45especially if they're
14:46preservative free,
14:47they're very good
14:48for people with dry eyes.
14:49Yeah.
14:50So ask your ofthal
14:51about the right kind of eye drops
14:53that you need
14:54and perhaps different
14:55for kids as well.
14:56But Dr. Sadeep,
14:57talk to me a little bit
14:58and perhaps Karen,
14:59you as well.
15:00You mentioned makeup,
15:02you know,
15:02a little while back.
15:04We are a country
15:05obsessed with kajal.
15:07Okay.
15:07We are a country,
15:08we do a kala tika
15:10on kids
15:11right in the first few hours
15:13of them being born.
15:14Thank God,
15:14pediatricians now talk about it
15:16actively not to do it.
15:17But even as adults,
15:19are there certain chemicals
15:22which are no-go?
15:23Something that we can watch
15:25out the label for?
15:27See,
15:28there is no one thing
15:31that is bad for your eyes.
15:33But what is bad for your eyes
15:35is the position
15:36where you keep the kajal in.
15:38You see,
15:38like,
15:39kajal is not some
15:41curative thing.
15:43Like some people...
15:43I see you're wearing
15:44some very gorgeous kajal.
15:46So some people think
15:48that the kajal
15:50they make at home
15:51has,
15:52you know,
15:53curative powers
15:54and makes your eyes
15:55more healthy.
15:56Like I often have
15:57patients come in
15:58and say,
15:59oh no,
15:59but you know,
16:00this is good for me
16:01and all of that.
16:01But that's not true.
16:03Basically,
16:04you can't put the kajal
16:05on the inner line.
16:07Not on the water line.
16:08Yeah.
16:09So keep it outside
16:11of your lashes.
16:13You know,
16:13that is important.
16:14Put it on
16:15under the lashes
16:16on the lower lid
16:18and above the lashes
16:19on the upper lid.
16:20And of course,
16:22you know,
16:22there are all those
16:23glues and all
16:24which are terrible
16:25for the eyes.
16:26So I would certainly,
16:27you don't see me
16:28wearing a false lash.
16:30So a lot of people
16:31use these artificial
16:32eyelashes
16:32which have
16:33these horrendous
16:34glue systems
16:35which can damage
16:36the eyes quite a bit.
16:37And as she's saying,
16:38the reason why
16:39the makeup
16:39should not be put
16:40on the water line
16:41or the edge
16:41of the lids
16:42is because the glands
16:43open up there
16:44and that you're
16:45blocking it
16:45every time you're
16:46putting it.
16:46So as a summary,
16:48anything outside
16:49the eye on the skin
16:50is perfect.
16:51Right.
16:51Dr. Sudeepto,
16:52I wanted to talk
16:53to me a little bit
16:54about the LASIK surgeries
16:56that are happening
16:56right now.
16:57I believe you have
16:58some kind of a record
16:59of doing the fastest
17:01in the country.
17:02Is that true?
17:04And what is,
17:05what has been
17:06your greatest
17:08number so far?
17:10So three things
17:11I would like
17:12to mention here.
17:13I used to do LASIK.
17:15I don't do LASIK anymore.
17:16It's a cosmetic surgery
17:18to remove glasses.
17:19You're burning the cornea
17:20to remove the number.
17:21So I don't do that anymore.
17:23What, yes,
17:24what I certainly do
17:25is laser-based
17:25cataract surgeries
17:26which are called
17:28femtrolaser surgeries.
17:29So I do happen
17:30to do, you know,
17:31probably maybe
17:33the largest number.
17:34But the numbers
17:35are not the issue.
17:36The issue is
17:36how you are customizing
17:39every individual
17:40coming to you.
17:42Each eye is different.
17:44So you have to,
17:44the technology,
17:45what you asked me
17:46as the first question,
17:47we have understood
17:48what to do with the eye.
17:50More importantly,
17:51what not to do
17:52with people
17:53and much more important
17:54to understand
17:55what everybody's needs are.
17:58You cannot have
17:59one lens,
18:00one surgery,
18:01one technique
18:01fitting everybody.
18:02So what my message
18:04to everybody is
18:05going to be that
18:05whatever is your problem,
18:07please go and have
18:09an in-depth discussion
18:11with your surgeon,
18:12whoever that is.
18:13Ask pertinent questions
18:14regarding your lifestyle,
18:16what you would like to do.
18:17LASIK,
18:18the laser surgeries,
18:20cataract surgeries,
18:20any other surgery
18:21will have their pros and cons
18:23and it is you to ask
18:24and the duty of the surgeon
18:25to answer the question
18:26because every customization
18:29has to be individually
18:31tailored for every eye.
18:32Yeah,
18:33that's very,
18:34very important
18:34not to listen
18:35to Instagram reels
18:36telling you
18:37about some magical eye drops
18:39but to understand
18:40that your doctor
18:41knows the best
18:42and that's what
18:42you should be really doing.
18:44Karen,
18:44I want to talk to you
18:45about something fascinating.
18:47You mentioned something
18:48that really blew my mind earlier.
18:49You said
18:50that there is
18:51a certain connection
18:53that the eye
18:54has
18:55with the brain.
18:57It's got to do
18:57with cortisol levels
18:59and it has
19:00become a factor
19:01in our stress
19:02and also
19:04in our sleep.
19:05Please expand on that.
19:07So,
19:08you know,
19:08basically,
19:10we sleep
19:11because our body
19:12rests.
19:13When our body
19:15rests,
19:15it has
19:16a chance
19:17to repair.
19:18When it's repairing,
19:20when we get up
19:20in the morning,
19:21the cortisol
19:22that we have
19:23in our bodies
19:24is the highest.
19:25So,
19:26actually,
19:26there is
19:26like,
19:27probably that reason
19:28where they say
19:29get up in the morning
19:30and splash your eyes
19:31and all of that
19:32is not just
19:32pure old wives tale.
19:34Basically,
19:34you need to
19:35squeeze your eyes,
19:36you know,
19:37four or five times
19:38and just resurface
19:40because when you
19:41are waking up
19:42in the morning,
19:43your eyes are
19:44a little dry.
19:45You do that
19:45and the best thing
19:47that you can actually do
19:49is to go out
19:51in the sun
19:52and expose yourself
19:54to the sun
19:54for 10 minutes,
19:5615 minutes
19:57in a slow walk
19:58because that decreases
20:00the cortisol level.
20:02So,
20:03with the cortisol levels
20:05going down,
20:06you can,
20:07when you sleep well,
20:08then your cortisol levels
20:10also come down.
20:11Otherwise,
20:11when you wake up
20:12in the morning,
20:13they are higher.
20:14Also,
20:15it is interesting
20:16that recent research
20:19has shown
20:19that the cortisol level
20:21is also connected
20:22to pollution
20:23and when you are
20:25exposed to pollution,
20:26your body responds
20:29with an inflammatory response.
20:31So,
20:31cortisol initially,
20:32it settles the inflammation
20:34and then after a point
20:36when you have
20:36chronic inflammation,
20:38your cortisol levels
20:39go high.
20:40And those cortisol levels
20:42are actually,
20:43they harm your body
20:45because they make you
20:47insulin resistant
20:48and they may make
20:49your sugars
20:51difficult to control
20:53and,
20:54you know,
20:54they make you,
20:55when your cortisol levels
20:57are high,
20:58you can't sleep very well.
20:59So,
20:59it's a cycle.
21:00It's a vicious cycle.
21:01You reduce stress
21:02and then your body
21:02stores more fat.
21:03You will not lose fat.
21:05You will decrease stress.
21:06Who would have thought?
21:07This is turning out
21:08to be a very,
21:09very educational session.
21:11You're giving me
21:11headline after headline
21:12on so many things
21:14that we do not know
21:15about the eye.
21:15I am so glad
21:16you brought about it.
21:17But can I pivot
21:18a little bit now
21:20and ask you
21:21a different question?
21:23You guys have been
21:24married for how long now?
21:2536 and a half years.
21:2736 and a half.
21:28Very precise.
21:29Yes, Dr. Siddipto
21:30is over there.
21:31And you work together.
21:32Yes.
21:33Me too.
21:34You have,
21:35you share a cabin.
21:37No,
21:37we have two separate cabins
21:38with a door in between.
21:39With a door in the middle.
21:40Always being open.
21:40That's actually supposed
21:41to be a secret.
21:43So,
21:44you work together,
21:45you go home together,
21:46you see patients together,
21:48you eat together.
21:49I mean,
21:50don't you ever need
21:51a break from each other?
21:52No.
21:53How is this happening?
21:55What's the secret,
21:55Karen?
21:56So,
21:57well,
21:57we also have brought
21:58two children up together.
22:00Yeah.
22:00So,
22:01and,
22:01you know,
22:02I think
22:03it is very important
22:05for you
22:05to give each other space
22:08to understand
22:09that,
22:09you know,
22:10everybody's needs
22:11are different.
22:12Everybody's interests
22:13are different.
22:14It also helps
22:15when you have
22:16your own interests.
22:18So,
22:18when you go home,
22:19you are not like
22:20waiting for the other person.
22:22Achha,
22:22Hanji,
22:23Hanji,
22:23kya kare hai,
22:24kya kare hai,
22:24you know?
22:25So,
22:26dining table conversation
22:27is not about patients?
22:28no.
22:29And what is a dining table
22:30conversation about?
22:31That is one rule.
22:33No work at home.
22:34We never do work at home,
22:35ever.
22:36No work.
22:36Never.
22:37It's only at work.
22:38at home.
22:38He told me this
22:39the first time,
22:41like,
22:41you know,
22:43when we were getting married,
22:44we actually made a checklist
22:46of,
22:47like,
22:47some,
22:47I don't know how many questions.
22:49He's like that.
22:49He sent you a checklist?
22:51Like a prenup?
22:52How do you,
22:53how do you,
22:54where do you squeeze
22:55your,
22:56your toothpaste kind of thing?
22:58No,
22:58let me interject here.
23:00So,
23:00I think,
23:00I think that
23:01what you're asking,
23:02Sonal,
23:02is important
23:03because,
23:04you see,
23:04the kind of work we do,
23:06it is extremely important
23:07to understand
23:08that we are dealing
23:08with people
23:09who are coming to us
23:10with a problem.
23:11So,
23:12throughout the day,
23:12we are doing work
23:13which is very serious.
23:14We are operating.
23:15We are seeing patients.
23:16We are managing people
23:17and that cannot be done
23:19unless you are internally
23:20happy in your own head
23:21and that is the first thing
23:23which we have to work towards
23:25is the happiness
23:25in your own head.
23:27If you don't have happiness,
23:28you don't have happiness
23:29with your partner,
23:30you don't have happiness
23:30with the children,
23:31with nobody including patients.
23:33So,
23:33that's a fundamental thing
23:34that we need
23:35to find our peace
23:36and peace
23:37is something
23:37all we can either
23:39get or not get.
23:40It's our choice.
23:41So,
23:41if you do that,
23:42we have various mechanisms
23:44which you know
23:45what we do.
23:46So,
23:46that gives
23:46at least her and me
23:47peace individually.
23:49Yes.
23:49I'm going to go
23:50with another thing.
23:51Yeah.
23:52My mother used to say
23:53an empty mind
23:55is a devil's workshop.
23:56You know,
23:57overthinking
23:58is actually the key
24:00to every
24:02angst
24:03that anybody
24:03has ever had.
24:04If you have a problem
24:05and you think,
24:06the more you think about it,
24:07the more it will bother you.
24:09I read a very interesting book
24:10recently
24:11which is called
24:11Let Them.
24:13So,
24:13basically,
24:14just whoever is doing
24:15whatever,
24:16let them.
24:16You know,
24:17don't let it bother you.
24:18And you can only do that
24:20if you have
24:20your own interests.
24:22So,
24:22that is the reason
24:23I think why
24:24I write.
24:25That is the reason
24:26why he sings.
24:27That's the reason
24:28why he pursues
24:29guitar so seriously.
24:31Because I think
24:32it is very important
24:33for you
24:34to have
24:35one serious hobby
24:37and take your mind away from.
24:38Yeah.
24:38I'm so glad
24:39you said that
24:40because,
24:40you know,
24:40we spoke with,
24:41you know,
24:42some really amazing doctors
24:44our country has
24:44all this morning
24:45and if there's
24:46one common threat
24:47that I can share
24:48through all those
24:49conversations,
24:50it has been happiness.
24:51I could talk to a cardiologist,
24:53I could talk to a liver doc,
24:54I could talk to
24:55somebody who treats diabetes
24:57and they will all tell me
24:58at the end of the day
24:59if you're happy
25:00internally,
25:01that's what really
25:02gets the game going,
25:03right?
25:04So,
25:04I'm really glad
25:05you brought that up
25:06and I'm very happy
25:08that today
25:10our audience
25:11gets to see
25:12an offbeat side
25:13of you as well.
25:15You know,
25:15I'm subject
25:19to have them
25:21give us
25:21and we're
25:22very strict
25:22or we allow
25:25to get
25:26medicines
25:26come
25:26and we're
25:27very much
25:27we often
25:28forget to see
25:29the human being
25:30behind that doctor
25:31as well.
25:32Which is why
25:32in today's session
25:33we want
25:35the pakrasis
25:37and you know
25:37you have to really
25:38applaud them
25:39for that,
25:39for sharing
25:40that side
25:40with us today.
25:42so I can't
25:43can't wait
25:44to have them
25:45give us a glimpse
25:46of the multi-talented
25:49you know
25:50couple that they are.
25:51So can we
25:52can we have you
25:53with what you do
25:55so well?
25:59Thank you for your
26:00attention
26:01and your time
26:02and thank you
26:03my pleasure
26:04ma'am.
26:23So this is a bit
26:24tough because
26:24we actually
26:25have never
26:26done this.
26:28Hello check?
26:34Check, check,
26:34check.
26:35Okay.
26:36Okay.
26:36So we are
26:38going to be doing
26:39we thought
26:40we'll do one song
26:41but we also
26:42do a Hindi song
26:43after.
26:45Don't we want
26:45another song?
26:46Can I get a cheer
26:46for them please?
26:47Yes?
27:21So what are we
27:22going to hear
27:23first?
27:24We are
27:27going to do
27:28a song
27:28check, check,
27:29check, check,
27:30check, check.
27:31We are going to
27:31do a song
27:32called
27:32Strawberries, Cherries.
27:36It's about
27:36the good times.
27:45Strawberries,
27:46cherries
27:46I'm the angels
27:48kissing spring
27:51My summer
27:52wine
27:53is really
27:54made
27:54from all
27:55these things
28:05I walked
28:06in town
28:07on
28:07silver
28:08spurs
28:09the jingle
28:09too
28:12A song
28:13that I
28:14had only
28:15sung
28:15just a few
28:17she saw
28:20she saw
28:20my
28:20silver
28:20whisper
28:21and said
28:22let's
28:23pass the
28:24time
28:24and I
28:26will give
28:27to you
28:28summer
28:30wine
28:31Oh
28:34summer
28:35summer
28:36wine
28:39Strawberries, cherries and the angels give things for you
28:45My summer wine is really made of all these things
28:52Take off your selfish mull and help me pass the time
28:59And I will give to you summer wine
29:13My eyes drew heavy and my lips they could not speak
29:20I tried to get up but I couldn't find my feet
29:27She reassured me with an unfamiliar light
29:32And left they craved more, oh summer wine
29:39Oh, summer wine
29:47Strawberries, cherries and the angels dismayed
29:53My summer wine is really made of all these things
30:00Take off your silver spoon and let me pass the time
30:06And I will give to you summer wine
30:13Oh, summer wine
30:22I woke up the sun was shining in my eyes
30:27My silver spurs were gone, my head fell twice inside
30:34She took my dove as gold and the time
30:41And left me craving for summer wine
30:47Oh, summer wine
31:02Oh, summer wine
31:05Oh, summer wine
31:07Oh, summer wine
31:22Mini LA
31:26Oh my God, that was so, so good. Guys, that deserves better. Come on.
31:35Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you for listening.
31:39I know, I know the time is up, but a little birdie tells me that the audience will not mind
31:44if we get a Hindi number.
31:47Yeah? Do we want a Hindi number?
31:49Yes. You have to convince him. That's not going to convince him. Do we want a Hindi number?
31:55Yes. Is that enough?
31:58Oh my God, that is scary. Yes?
31:59That is scary. Okay.
32:01So, I'm going to try and do a song which is very difficult. Please pardon me. I'm a novice. I
32:08do not know music very well, as you saw.
32:12I'm going to start this and check if it works. Give me a minute.
32:18Give me a minute. This is not working.
32:31Okay. Yeah, got it.
32:41Okay, this is actually an Indian classical song. Indian classical.
32:46Yes, which is made very famous by a chap called Manna Day. And my voice is very different.
32:52You're going from summer wine to Manna Day. Yes.
32:55Yes. Wow.
32:57Volume.
32:58Volume.
32:59Volume.
33:00Volume.
33:01Volume.
33:04Volume.
33:10Volume.
33:11Volume.
33:25Volume.
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39:05Thank you for bearing with me, I'm sorry.
39:07Oh, my God.
39:09Oh, my God.
39:10Would you believe that that is a doctor?
39:14Would you believe that this multi-talented family has so much more to offer?
39:19But, you know, before I get into it, I just want to say something to our audience here.
39:23While you watch doctors have, you know, passions, it's very important.
39:30I think the whole point of this conversation has been to show you that there are human beings behind those
39:35white coats.
39:35They feel just like us.
39:38They get pain just like us.
39:39Of course, they have a lot of solutions, but perhaps so much inspiration as well.
39:43Thank you so much.
39:44Please give a huge round of applause to the Pekrasi family.
39:48Thank you so much.
39:49And before I let you go, could I please request both of you to write a health prescription for India?
39:55We'll start with Karen.
40:24That's pretty straightforward.
40:25And the best handwriting award also goes to Dr. Sudeepta for the doctor.
40:30Thank you so much.
40:31You've been amazing.
40:53Incredible, incredible indeed.
40:55Ladies and gentlemen, listen in to the prescription, listen in to the human being and always, always, like I say,
41:02trust your doctor, not the internet.
41:04Come on.
41:05Thank you so much.