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Philosopher Stefan Molyneux shares his long-time health routine of weightlifting, walking, measured eating, limited sweets and solid sleep, and shows how taking care of the body keeps the mind sharp. He also answers listener questions on spiteful mutants, success and isolation, peaceful parenting by single mothers, and a few other topics.

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"Stefan, you have mentioned the importance of good health. Would love to hear more on your household no-nos, processed foods, gluten-free, seed oils, or the like. Balancing that with family and friends."


"Stefan, what age do you believe is appropriate to start using a dating app? Asking for a friend."


"What do you think of Edward Dutton’s Spiteful Mutant theory?"


"Do you think faster than light travel is possible or just sci fi wish fulfilment?

"I think it is and that the best time to start colonizing the galaxy was yesterday."


"Would you be willing to write some short stories fleshing out some of your character's backgrounds from "The Future"?
"Kind of like the Canterbury Tales.
"I have always been particularly interested in the doctor's backstory, how he came to The Civ, and what he needed to do in order to join. Really clever "detail of his character to have some extra pounds on him, hinting to him being poorly raised in a competing civ before coming to The Civ.
"The ...

0:00:00 Why Health Begins with a Strong Body
0:06:00 Beauty, Art, and Our Shared Inheritance
0:15:02 Everyday Habits for Health and Well-Being
0:21:22 Anxiety, Worry, and Finding the Real Problem
0:23:32 When to Start Using a Dating App
0:23:53 Spiteful Mutants, Success, and Social Resentment
0:34:07 Vanity, Ambition, and the Work of Success
0:39:22 Are We Trapped in the Solar System?
0:41:06 The Future Review
0:41:40 Treating Trauma and Borderline Personality Disorder
0:47:23 Looks-Maxxing
0:47:35 Parenting and Moral Authority
0:50:25 Punishment, Social Love, and Closing Thanks

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00:00All righty. Good morning, everybody. 28th of October, 2026, 937 AM. And I'm sorry it's
00:07taking me so long to get through these questions from my good friends on X. But the questions are
00:13so good that they demand I subjugate myself before the requirements for depth and complexity.
00:22All right. Stefan, you have mentioned the importance of good health. Would love to
00:27hear more on your household no-nos, processed foods, gluten-free, cedar oils, or the like,
00:32balancing that with family and friends. So it's a big, long question as a whole. My health,
00:42I mean, I was healthy as a kid, you know, ran around a lot. In my early teens, I was,
00:49I mean,
00:49sort of barely hanging on psychologically. I was alone with my mother. She was losing her mind and
00:56took to bed for weeks and was extremely volatile and dangerous. And I kind of stopped exercising.
01:02There was a funny old show called Participaction, I think it was. And I remember distinctly in my
01:11little apartment watching that show. I may have been, I'm just saying maybe 13 or 14. And
01:20I was like, okay, I can't continue to be this decaying, widening lump of depression. And I
01:28started running around my apartment. I know this sounds like an odd thing, but I could run through
01:33the living room into the kitchen and then round again. And I started running there. And then I just
01:39started running. And so I joined the swim team. I got back into tennis. I joined the water polo team.
01:46I joined the cross country running team. And I was amazed at just how quickly my health sort of
01:52recovered and, and moved on. And since then, I have been quite struck with exercise. I don't really
02:01like cardio, although I'll do it because you know, you kind of got to do it. But in particular,
02:07weight, weightlifting, weightlifting. Now, I cannot lift too much in terms of weight,
02:14weight. It's respectable, but it's not great. And the reason for that is I, I'm just prone to injury
02:20for whatever reason. I just don't have the genetics. My tendons have always been kind of
02:24funky. I had a lumbago as a kid, which was really quite uncomfortable, which is where my bones were
02:30going quite a lot faster than my tendons. I have like the bones of a tall guy. I'm just a
02:34shade under
02:35six feet. And I have the tendons of a hobbit. I've never been able to touch my toes. And people
02:41always
02:42used to say to me, hey, man, just, just stretch and you'll be fine. And it's like, no, no, no,
02:46you can't lengthen your tendons. All you can do is help the muscles that hold them in place,
02:51relax a little bit. But I did stretching and all of that when I was in theater school,
02:55we did warm up for dance and sword fighting and all the other movement classes that we did.
03:00And so I have been doing weights since my mid-teens, with few exceptions. I was in the business world
03:15and just ended up working so much. It was very tough to get much exercise in for a little while
03:19here and there. But I've been fairly consistent as a whole. And the reason for that is that
03:27I could, I would consider it, this is all kinds of psychological and perhaps even nonsensical as a
03:33whole, but I would consider it shameful to have a body much weaker than my mind. I don't like that
03:45sort of British thing where you have this towering intellect and then this rather frail and gooey
03:50body. I do not like the idea that the intellect sits atop the body like a, like the jolly green
03:56giant
03:56on a vaguely flattened tiny pony. And so I have tried to have reasonable lengths of strength and
04:05ability and agility. And the other day I played an hour and a half of pickleball and I can still
04:11sprint. I'm 60 and it's, it's not bad. Obviously I'm not any kind of towering poster boy for abs or
04:18anything like that. But I just feel it's very, very important for the brain to rest upon a strong body
04:26body. And the sort of the nerd thing where you have a strong intellect and a weak body,
04:31I think is unsustainable. And so my brain is my body, right? That the mind is the shadow cast by
04:40the brain and the brain is the body and the brain is not detached from the body. I don't have
04:45any
04:45otherworldly escape the, you know, the wretched, foul, pestilent flesh and so on. My brain is my body
04:53and my intellect requires, of course, health, physical health. It requires good blood flow to
05:02the brain. And I also, as I've mentioned before, happened to inherit a pretty remarkable brain,
05:10which I say with no pride. It's just, it's like, oh, I'm so proud I have blue eyes, right? I
05:14just
05:14happened to inherit a pretty remarkable brain as the result of the British and Irish intellectual
05:22traditions merging together in this geyser of creativity and reason that characterizes the way
05:28that I interact with reasoned people in the world. And so I really have to take care of this
05:36collective resource, this common resource. It's really, really important for me to be grateful.
05:43I'm immensely grateful for the brain that I happen to have. You know, it's like if you're born with some
05:51absolutely wonderful singing voice, I mean, in a sense, that's sort of a collective, I'm not
05:57saying like I'm morally or socialist or legal or anything. But if you have, I mean, I sort of think,
06:03you know, way back in the day, stone ages and so on, when life was brutal and harsh and dangerous
06:12and
06:13you buried your children and everyone else on a regular basis. So you cut your thumb and got an
06:19infection up to your arm and had to hack your arm off because you couldn't have antibiotics and so
06:23on. And I sort of think like if you have a beautiful singing voice and you're in a tribe of
06:3080, 100 people,
06:3250 people or whatever, then you don't have to sing when everyone is contemplating the fire. I mean,
06:42we were very hypnotized by flames, right? Because flames break up the static of the brain pretty
06:50well because they're such random fractals. Now, you don't have to sing when your tribe has finished
06:58its work day and is staring at the fire and thinking probably sad stone age distant thoughts
07:07about all the losses and perils to come. You don't have to sing, but you kind of should.
07:14But you kind of should because it gives comfort, it gives contemplation, it gives warmth.
07:21You know, the dangers and stresses of life can wind people up pretty, pretty hard. And if you have a
07:32beautiful singing voice and sing with great depth and power and passion and feeling, well,
07:38if you sing, it eases the burdens of people's lives. It's like their heart and its brittle
07:45ostrich eggshell cracks under the caressing soft syllables of your voice, and the heart relaxes and
07:54opens a little bit in the face of the sound of something beautiful. And the harshness and
08:01difficulty and dangerousness, and you've got tics and itchy and, you know, there's a reason why in
08:07the Middle Ages they yearned to be free of the body, because the body was horrendous. People would
08:13kiss others who'd never brushed their teeth and have sex with people who hadn't bathed in the last year.
08:19And what sustains and nobles and elevates us is beauty, which is why when you want to take over
08:24a culture, you make everything ugly. And that way people get depressed and anxious, and there's
08:29nothing to save. And it softens the walls of culture to the point where you can push them aside
08:35like melting butter and step right over and through. So for me, I have this brain, I'm incredibly
08:44grateful for it. I didn't earn it. I try to use it to good effect, of course. And it is
08:50a collective
08:51resource. I can't take credit in my brain any more than I can take credit in the operations of my
09:00liver
09:00or my kidneys or my spleen or whatever. I don't even really know what's going on down there. I just
09:06eat food and get energy. And so I can't take credit for the fact that I have calves or
09:14quads or biceps. I mean, that's just evolution, right? It's just what survived and flourished.
09:20And I can't take any pride in my brain. And so for me, staying healthy is obviously for my wife
09:27and
09:27for my family, my friends who would not be happy if I got sick and paralyzed or ill or decayed
09:35or dying
09:35or something like that. And it's for the world as a whole. And it's also for me. The idea of
09:42having
09:42a strong brain but a weak body is to fall prey to the mind-body dichotomy. You know that the
09:49body
09:49is mere flesh, but the mind is abstract angel wings of pure conceptual perfection. And the body
09:57fails and the mind is eternal and the body is rancid and the mind is pure and the body is
10:04sweaty
10:04and smelly and icky and scratchy. And the mind yearns to escape this prison of mortally decaying,
10:12collapsing flesh and fly free like in every single cheesy fantasy movie when they kill the wizard and
10:19the wizard's castle starts collapsing and they have to race out. This is the mind escaping the
10:25decaying collapse of the body and so on. I won't do that. I won't believe that. It's not true.
10:31The mind and the body are one. The brain is the body. The brain really is the purpose of the
10:37body.
10:37I mean, our entire metabolism reflects that, right? The brain is, what, two or three percent of the
10:46body's mass but takes 20 percent of the energy. So it's a demanding, imperious lord but requires
10:53sturdy, strong peasants to maintain it, which is the body. So I think health is really important.
10:59I think exercise is really important and it is very important for me to maintain my brain for as long
11:06as possible. I love the stories of the guys who are in their 80s or their 90s and who are
11:09still sharp
11:10as a tack and so on, right? Legal eagle. And so I want to maintain it for as long as
11:16possible
11:17and that does require that I maintain my physical health as much as possible. So I have, I mean,
11:27some pluses. I have a good, I would say, when I say I have a good body, I don't mean
11:32in terms of
11:33physique. Like I have a pretty strong and resilient and adaptable and my reflexes are really crazy. Like
11:46fast my reflexes are, my reflexes are really wild. And so I'm, I wouldn't say, because I'm not proud.
11:55I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm happy that I've done the exercise and so on, but I'm also lucky, right? I'm
11:59just lucky that it, other than one hiccup 13 years ago, I haven't really had any major illnesses and so
12:04on. So I think it is just out of gratitude for all that I have been provided and the reasonable
12:13levels of good I can do for the planet as a whole that I feel I'm in possession of an
12:19accidental
12:20inheritance and it's not mine to spend or consume. It's not mine to spend or consume. And this
12:26inheritance has been gathered under great duress, stress, pain, death, slaughter, and disease for,
12:32for, for billion years, right? Four billion years we've been evolving. And I happen to be handed this
12:37incredibly complex brain as have you. And I'm not saying, obviously I'm not saying I'm the only one
12:41with a complex brain, but we have this amazing inheritance of conceptual thought, language, reason,
12:50philosophy, communication, combined with this incredible technology. I wrote a novel called Just
12:55Poor, which you should definitely check out at freedomain.com books. It's free. The audio book
13:00is fantastic, if I do say so myself, which was about what happens if you're born brilliant when there's
13:09no scope for your brilliance. And this is a orphaned girl in England in the 18th century with no scope
13:18for
13:18her intelligence. It's a terrifying thought. And that partly was what happens if all the things
13:25that I'm capable of doing just vanish and die with me. I was talking to a guy not too long
13:33ago,
13:33a day or two ago, who's written books. And I remember when I was younger and was having a great
13:38deal of difficulty getting published, I didn't realize, of course, at the time, how much anti-white
13:43male and pro-socialism communism was embedded in the publishing industry. And my books, of course,
13:51are anti-collectivist and pro-market, pro-reason, pro-conscience, pro-free will, pro-morals.
13:59And I remember thinking, I'm going to have to put all my books together. And on my deathbed,
14:05I'm, because statistically, I'm more likely to die before my wife. But on my deathbed, I'm going to
14:12have to have friends and family who were gathered around promise to get my books out there somehow,
14:18someday. This was, you know, back before the internet really took off. And now, of course,
14:23the books are out there, which I'm enormously grateful for. And really, you should check out
14:27my fiction. I think it's really good. Freedomain.com slash books. So the sort of unity of my capacities
14:34with the amazing technology to communicate ideas that I can walk around as I am this morning and
14:41share my thoughts across the world for all time is truly staggering. I mean, even if I had had a
14:48book
14:48or two or three or five or 10, I think I've written over 20 published, then they would probably just
14:54sit
14:54in the back dusty room of a library until somebody noticed they hadn't been checked out for five or
14:5910 years and toss them in the remainder bin. So as far as sort of practical health things go,
15:06one challenge I face, and this probably has something to do with growing up fairly significantly
15:11undernourished, is that I am always hungry. I can always eat more. I'm always hungry. I never feel
15:20full. So I have to just kind of will myself. And part of that is due to exercise, of course,
15:25right?
15:26But, you know, it's funny because my brother had a couple of years of good food
15:30in England while I was stuck in Canada and hungry, hungry a lot of times, and he ended up taller
15:36than
15:37me. It could just be genetics or whatever it is, but it's something that I occasionally think may
15:42have had to do with malnutrition. Who knows? But I, what do I do for health? I have, I try
15:50to eat only
15:51when I'm really hungry. So I don't usually eat much in the morning. I'm not particularly hungry in the
15:56morning. I say I'm always hungry, but it's usually afternoons and evenings. Evenings are my tough time
16:01for eating. And that has to do, of course, with stress when I was a child. And I'm sort of
16:05aware
16:05of that. I don't know that I can undo it. But I mean, it's kind of late now in the
16:09day as well. It's
16:10like 50 years ago since I was a little kid. But I try to pace my eating. And I try,
16:18I mean, not to snack
16:19too much. I have given up, for the most part, you know, cookies, chips, candy, chocolate, you know,
16:26that kind of stuff. I really don't eat. I mean, a little bit here and there. I had some dessert
16:30on
16:30my birthday and, and things like that. My wife came home with some shortbread cookies yesterday
16:35because we had a guest over for a day or two. And I had a shortbread cookie. And it's nice.
16:41It's nice.
16:41But for the most part, exercise, of course, is important. And the fact that I can, like I'm
16:49walking right now and walking actually is better for your brain in general than sitting. So the fact
16:54that I can walk and do these kinds of conversations, hugely important for me. And I think for my health
17:00as a whole. And as far as food goes, yeah, my wife is a good cook. And that's, I mean,
17:09that's the
17:09difference between life and death in many ways, being a good cook. And she is very concerned about
17:17health as a whole. She tries to make food from scratch and it's good food. And I don't really
17:24eat. What do I eat that's processed? And I'm sort of aware this always sounds so precious. Oh, no
17:30process. I don't really eat much that you have to unwrap. I guess occasionally if my family's out and I
17:37need some food, I'll throw a frozen pizza in the oven. I mean, obviously that's kind of processed.
17:41But my wife makes stuff from scratch and she makes this. There's almost always a fridge full of
17:47meals as a whole. And I guess I eat a little bit of deli meat, which is probably not ideal,
17:53but occasionally I'll have, you know, toasties with that. Other than that, I don't weigh myself
18:01more than a couple of times a year. I think that's kind of an, I mean, my mother had an
18:06eating
18:06disorder that was quite serious. So I think it's quite important to not, for me at least, not to
18:11focus on that. So I go for my annual checkup and I weigh myself there and maybe I'll weigh myself
18:17once
18:17or twice at the gym, just to double check. But I mean, it's 194, 195, stuff like that. And of
18:29course,
18:29it's tough when you exercise, especially if I've done a little bit more exercise than usual, then you
18:34add some weight, but it's because of muscle. And then that muscle, you know, one of the great things
18:40about having my cute little late middle-aged muscles is that they mow down on the fat while I'm
18:47sleeping and things like that. Sleep. Yeah. Yeah. Important. I need seven hours. And so I make
18:54sure I get my seven hours and that's important. If I am tired, I will nap. I have sort of
19:01noticed a
19:02bit of an association could just be psychological. If I have a bit of sugar, sometimes I feel tired
19:06afterwards. I don't know if that's a myth or not. I've heard it both ways. So I try to avoid
19:10sugar
19:10during the day because if I am tired, I will take a short rest. I will usually have a bit
19:16of a nap.
19:17Maybe once or twice in two or three weeks. But for the most part, my energy is good and
19:24all of that. And I suppose, you know, manage stress, that kind of stuff. And there's always
19:29something to be concerned about if you focus on it. But it is really important to be grateful for
19:33all of the great things in my life, as I'm sure there are great things in your life as well.
19:40So let's see. Anything else? I don't eat much salt. I like an omelet. Again, I'll have some sugar.
19:50For a while, I was off sugar almost completely. And I've allowed myself a few treats here and there.
19:56And oral hygiene, of course, is very important. I floss. I use my water pick. And I go to the
20:01dentist every four months because I still have my wisdom teeth and I don't want to get them removed.
20:06Obviously, that would be a not fun experience, to put it mildly. So, I mean, whether I'll make it to
20:11the end of my life with my wisdom teeth is perhaps a little doubtful. But I definitely want to give
20:17it
20:17my best shot. So, I think other than that, I'll get my blood work done every year and get my
20:25eyes
20:25checked. You know, the blurry thing where they stare deep into your irises and so on. I get that done
20:29every
20:30two years, probably over 60 now. I'll go every year because, you know, things loom, right? Things
20:36loom as you age. You cataracts and things like that. So, I want to keep an eye on that. So,
20:40you get it.
20:42And other than that, you know, just be happy, be in love, be grateful. I think gratitude is one of
20:48the
20:48greatest gifts that you can give yourself in terms of health. You know, and I want to sort of avoid
20:54that
20:55thing where, you know, when you're younger, you worry about money and dating. And then when you get in
21:00your middle age, you worry about your kids and your parents aging. And then when you get old, maybe your
21:03money worries are a little better, but then you start worrying about health. And I sort of try and avoid
21:08that. I mean, I wrote this play many, many years ago called Teeth. And it was, everyone says worry less.
21:18You know, we should worry less, be concerned less, be less anxious. And, but there's a middle ground,
21:23right? There's a middle ground. It is. There are some people at the end of their lives,
21:29they look back and they say, I wish I'd worried more or been concerned more. And of course, I
21:34talked to these guys and some women on the show on a regular basis. On the call-in shows where
21:39I'm
21:40like, you know, you should be panicking. Like, you should be. I remember many years ago, there was a
21:43guy calling and he says, like, I'm in my early 50s. I'm living in my brother's garage, but I don't
21:48want
21:48to panic. And I'm like, you kind of do. You kind of do want to panic at that point. So
21:54anxiety or nervousness or concern or whatever it is, some worry, I think it falls in the
22:00Aristotelian mean. And I think most people who have concerns with anxiety are anxious about the
22:07wrong things. And if you're anxious about the wrong things, then your anxiety generally won't be
22:13solved. Anxiety is there to tell you something important needs to be done. And then when you get it
22:18done, you will usually relax. It's sort of like if you think you're thirsty, but you're actually
22:24hungry, then drinking water won't solve the problem. You will just continue to feel the
22:29discomfort because you're not having the right solution to the right problem. The right problem
22:34is hunger, which means go eat something, don't just drink something, right? And so I try and focus
22:41on if I have some concerns or worries, I'll try and figure out what's going on, try and solve it
22:47as
22:47best I can. And then, you know, work my best to let it go, which is usually more than possible.
22:54So those are general health things as a whole. And I hope that's of use, probably too abstracted
23:03personal, but those are the health things that I have as a whole. And I hope that is helpful and
23:11at least somewhat interesting for you, my friends. But, you know, I'm sort of hoping,
23:18I'm hoping to age without chronic health problems. And I don't have any chronic health problems. I
23:22don't have any achy pains, don't have any knee problems, don't have any back problems. I'm not
23:26any on any medications or anything like that. So, all right. Steph, what age do you believe is
23:33appropriate to start using a dating app asking for a friend? That's a tough call, man. That is a
23:38a long way away. Out of curiosity, back when I was single, this is very early on in the internet
23:44days, I did try a dating app, but I quickly recognized that it was just all males. So I
23:49don't really have any, I don't really have any arguments. What do you think of Edward Dutton's
23:54spiteful mutant theory? So with all apologies to Mr. Ed, I'm probably going to get this somewhat wrong,
24:01but I think the spiteful mutant theory has to do with the fact that evolutionary pressures for the last
24:07200 years, and particularly for the last 100 years have been significantly removed, which means that
24:13people are growing into adulthood who in the past would not have made it. And because we have all of
24:21this technology and medicine and so on to prop up people who otherwise wouldn't have made it, we end up
24:28with a lot of people who have not just physical, of course, but mental problems. And I mean, I'm not
24:42an evolutionary biologist, of course, so I can't determine anything to do with that. And so certainly,
24:49of course, of course, there are many people who make it to adulthood now, who in the past would not
24:54have
24:54made it to adulthood, I get all of that. And so does that mean that they inevitably become,
25:01you know, communist trolls, and so on? I don't, I don't think so. I think the big problem is the
25:09fact
25:09that we have replaced, you know, wholesome, rational, empirical education with endless propaganda. Like,
25:18you know, how was it, Bioware just shut down, which was a really great game developer from, I guess,
25:26the 90s onwards. And the problem with success, you know, it's a really tough issue. I have a very
25:32ambivalent relationship with success. You know, I've been on top, I've been on the bottom, I've been
25:36just about everywhere in between. And success is tough. Success is tough. Because if you're successful,
25:43then you will be hijacked, your organization will be hijacked to push propaganda. There are propagandists
25:51floating around the world as a whole, who are constantly sniffing for new avenues to inflict
25:56propaganda. And something like Bioware, was it their last game had a bunch of, you know, crazy leftist
26:05stuff in it? Was it a Dragon Age? I can't really remember, but some D&D thing where they tried
26:09to jam a
26:10bunch of leftist stuff in. And yeah, so the moment you become successful, you are targeted,
26:16and you are infiltrated, and you are used to broadcast
26:23propaganda. So it's sort of like, if you grow up poor, then you may have the dream of escaping
26:29poverty. Well, escape poverty, okay. So you work to escape poverty, and you make some money. And if
26:35you're still around all the poor people, which is usually the case, then the poor people will hit
26:40you up for money, or success, or advantage, or jobs, or maybe not job. Well, sometimes, I guess.
26:47And so success is tough. Success has made a failure of our home. I think that's one of the old
26:55songs. And so when you achieve success, if you achieve success, and I hope that you do,
27:01I hope this show helps you do that. But if you achieve success, what's going to happen
27:07is people will try to get things from you. And Kevin, is it Kevin O'Leary, would say, you know,
27:14like, because he's very wealthy, and he would say, you know, if somebody wants money for a business
27:20venture, he'll give them 50k, but only on the condition that they never ask him for more money
27:24or talk to him about the business. So success is a failure. And this is just one of the paradoxes.
27:33It would be better, I think, in a free market voluntary society. But right now, success is
27:41a challenge. And success will almost certainly mean the failure of your original primary relationships.
27:48If you grew up in a non-successful environment, and you become successful, you have less and less in
27:53common with the people you grew up with. And then they are full of maybe spite, envy, jealousy,
28:01greed, there's awkwardness, and so on. And that is really tough. You have to float up into a realm
28:11where you are only around other successful people, right? You sort of think of some obese family,
28:21and then, you know, one member starts working out, exercising, dieting, you know, they're strict,
28:26they get abs, they're whatever, right? I mean, there's just an awkwardness there. And that's just
28:31the body, which is much less than the mind or things like that. So you got to move into other
28:40areas and
28:41dimensions where people are successful as a whole. So I hope that helps with regards to that. But it
28:52is a, it's a big challenging situation. It's a big, big old challenging situation. Success is kind of
28:59failure. So I think the spiteful mutant theory, again, I can't speak to the genetics, but when you
29:07succeed, people get very tense. They get, they get a little stressed. And it's this elephant in the
29:13room. And the elephant in the room is one of two things. Some of the principles of success are
29:21transferable, for sure, for sure. But most people want the success without the effort, of course,
29:29right? We want something for nothing. And that's not necessarily a bad thing as a whole. Technology is
29:33something for nothing. I'm getting to you through the internet, knocking on your door. But people kind
29:39of instinctively recognize that if they drop the scarcity, loser, the system's rigged against me,
29:47determinism, mindset. And if they talk about, I will, rather than yes, but, well, you could be
29:58successful. Yeah, but I don't have the context. Yeah, but the system's rigged against me. Yeah, but blah,
30:02blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't have the right accent. I don't know. Yes, but if you drop
30:07that mindset, then you will arouse the enmity of people around you. If you grow up among, for want
30:14of a better phrase, if you grow up among losers, then if you become a winner, the losers will resent
30:20you. Because the losers believe that the system is stacked against them, that there's nothing they
30:25can do, they can't advance, they can't get anywhere, they can't rise, they can't, you know,
30:29everything's against them. And listen, there's lots of stuff against people, you know, if you're
30:33in the white male category. I mean, under Trump, like, all of the jobs created under Trump went to
30:39women. Yes. So, I get all of that. And again, I'm not talking to the average, I'm talking to the
30:46top
30:461% of intelligence to characterize my listeners. There's options, there's possibilities, and I've
30:51obviously tried to point them out. Over the years, whether people have listened or not,
30:55is not up to me. But if you grow up surrounded by losers, they believe... It's funny, because losers
31:04as a whole are a combination of vanity and insecurity, right? Simple mind style. And they have vanity
31:12because they believe they're super smart and super competent and super great. But then, the more vanity
31:17you have, the harder it is to explain why you can't, won't, or don't succeed. And so, they have to
31:23create, in their mind, these insurmountable barriers, right? Like, yes, I am an expert rock
31:29climber, but it's a sheer infinite wall of frozen ice. A vertical wall of frozen ice, and nobody can
31:37climb that. And so, people love to praise themselves. And the problem with praising yourself is then you
31:45have to explain to yourself why you don't succeed, or why you haven't succeeded. So, I had a friend
31:54who, when I was in my teens, had a very, very high view of his own intellect. And he's definitely
31:59a
31:59smart guy. Definitely a smart guy. I mean, the guy got over 100% on math tests, so it's really
32:05quite
32:05remarkable. But he was 5'7", or something like that. Although, you know, he had physical characteristics
32:15that were quite attractive. I won't sort of get into details. But, you know, as to why he didn't
32:21date, he said, well, women don't like short guys. Oh, okay, I get that. I get that. I mean,
32:31Tom Cruise is a short guy. And again, you can sort of find these examples. But he was like,
32:37so I have a very high opinion of myself, but I'm scared to ask out women. Now, it wasn't like
32:43he
32:43asked out a bunch of women who all said, no, you're too short. And this unwillingness to
32:49compromise based on vanity. You know, I did not marry a supermodel. If it's any consolation,
32:57my wife also did not marry a supermodel. Now, I find it very attractive. She finds me very
33:03attractive. But, you know, neither of us are going to be on the cover of GQ or Vanity Fair anytime
33:08soon.
33:09And that ship may have sailed into the West with elves who decay. But there are necessary
33:19compromises. And even if the two, two of the most wealthy and successful and attractive people
33:25in the world and Janina Jolie and Brad Pitt, even if they get together, they end up unhappy and
33:31railing at each other and suing each other about what vineyards in France or something.
33:35So even they don't end up happy sometimes. Billy Joel, very talented singer, songwriter and
33:41performer, married four times and bitter. I saw a documentary on him. It just looks tense and
33:49bitter. So, I mean, you can't get more success than Billy Joel, right? And I think he's now got brain
33:58issues or something like that, can't do or can't. I guess he's getting older, right? Happens to all,
34:02but he should have pushed that Vax hard. Did he ever. So people say there are insurmountable
34:09barriers to success. And when you break through those barriers, it shocks them to their core and
34:17they get very tense. People, everyone's vain. Everyone's vain. I mean, myself included. Everyone's
34:24vain. And it's not vanity if you do it, right? So Freddie Mercury, even when he was very younger,
34:33said, I'm not just going to be a star, darling, I'm going to be a superstar, right? And he did
34:38it.
34:38He worked hard. He toured. He, you know, he did it. And good for him, like no harm, no foul,
34:44right? It's
34:44great to have vanity if it impels you to action to achieve success. Good. But people who have vanity,
34:52who don't do the necessary work, have a challenge. They think they're great, but the world doesn't
34:57think they're great. They think they're a fabulous darling, but the world does not think that they're
35:01a fabulous darling. Sweetie darling, fab fab style. So what do people do if they have a great degree of
35:09vanity and they don't have any particular success? It's a tough call. Everybody, when they're a kid,
35:17believes deep down that they're destined for great things. I mean, an astronaut is going to be
35:21a fireman saving people's lives. I'm going to be a cowboy, whatever it is, right? And people believe
35:29that they're destined for great things. And then it doesn't pan out or they don't do the work or
35:35whatever it is, right? So then people have a problem, a challenge, which is, I think I'm great.
35:41The world doesn't agree. And either it's like, well, I need to do more work then, or the world is
35:46stupid
35:47and bigoted and rigged against me. Okay. And so if you, I mean, I always believed I was destined for
35:53great things. And I mean, to a significant degree, I pulled it off. I managed to stick the landing. I
36:00mean, then I was pushed over, but nonetheless, I stuck the landing for a while. So in Spy for Mutants,
36:07I think it has a lot more to do with the fact that people have a lot of vanity and
36:12everyone's got
36:13main character syndrome and everyone's very important to themselves. And I'm not saying
36:17that's a bad thing. That's right. Right now I'm sort of looking around and the view that I have
36:22would not exist if my brain wasn't here, right? The view I have would not exist if my brain wasn't
36:27here. None of the thoughts I put out would go out if my brain didn't do them. And I didn't
36:31work to,
36:32work very hard to apply and grow and challenge the world. And I think comport myself with a reasonable
36:39degree of moral courage and integrity and sincerity and so on. Right. So there's nothing
36:45wrong with having vanity. There's nothing wrong with thinking you're destined for great things.
36:48There's nothing wrong with daydreaming, but you either pursue your daydreams or you have to give
36:53them up. You, I mean, if you were a medieval peasant and you had no odds, opportunities, possibilities,
36:58I mean, there's always possibilities. Even Thomas Sowell has a great sequence of about even the slaves,
37:07the black slaves in the antebellum South, if they had particular talents, then they were often given
37:12scope to pursue those talents and so on. And so even slaves have some, some opportunities and we
37:19are not slaves. We have more opportunities. And of course, if you can't get opportunities,
37:24you just make opportunities, right? If you have to get across the river and there's no boat or barge,
37:31you have to find a way across the river, whatever that's going to be. When I worked up North,
37:36we had to do kilometer square. We had to hammer the stake claims into trees in a kilometer square.
37:44That's how we got the mineral rights to look for the gold. And so we had to go in a
37:49square and
37:50sometimes it seemed almost insurmountable. Sometimes there were raging rivers. Sometimes there were
37:55swamps. Sometimes there were gullies and so on. And the job was to go in a kilometer square.
38:03That was the job. So we had to find a way. Sometimes if the river was too, too far to
38:11cross,
38:11if the river was too wide, don't look back. You got one more river. Sorry, all the river songs,
38:18river of dreams are floating in my head. But sometimes one of us would have to wait and the
38:24other one would have to go up the river bank to find a place to cross. If it was too
38:29fast,
38:30you know, it could be dangerous if it was too fast, right? You get washed away and you are gone,
38:35baby gone. Particularly if there was some kind of waterfall further down. So, you know, with swamps,
38:40I remember being up to my chest in swamp, picking leeches off my legs and all of that. So, yeah,
38:45I mean, you just, there's no way forward. You just have to will and find a way. And that is,
38:53you know, again, be that water going down the side of the cliff that I talked about, right?
38:57You get blocked. You just find a way around it. You just have to will and keep moving forward and
39:01not accept no and deal with all of that. Put your will against the inertia of the world and see
39:08who
39:08wins. Usually whoever wins has the strongest will. So I think, despite for mutants, I can't speak for
39:15the genetics of it, but I think it has a lot to do with education and vanity as to why
39:21people are so
39:22bitter. All right. Do you think faster than light travel is possible or just sci-fi wish fulfillment?
39:26I think it is. And the best time to start colonizing the galaxy was yesterday. Yes. Well,
39:32of course, the civilized people in the world will do a heck of a lot to get away from the
39:37bottom 1%
39:38or 5%, right? So I do not think faster than light travel is possible. I do not think interstellar
39:45travel is possible unless you go really, really slow, in which case it will take tens of thousands of
39:49years and really what's the point. But no, you can't, you can't even if you get to half sea,
39:55like half the speed of light, then you're just going to, every little bit of matter is just going
40:01to hit you so hard. It's going to shred the spaceship. Like you, we're stuck in the solar
40:04system. It just is the way that it is. I mean, it's kind of fun to think of wormholes and
40:08stuff like
40:09that. I mean, that's all made up nonsense. You can't, you can't beam across. You can, there's no
40:16warp nine Sulu or whatever. I mean, that's, it's fun sort of sci-fi fantasy. But no, we are stuck
40:25in the solar system. You know, maybe that we, we can't colonize Venus, of course, because basically
40:32it has giant vats of sulfuric acid masquerading as an atmosphere. We could probably do something on
40:38Mars, but smart people just, smart people are always trying to get away from the dummies.
40:45Smart people are always trying to get away from the dummies, from that sweet spot of criminality
40:49around IQ 85 and so on. And, you know, smart people can deal with the dummies, but the dummies are
40:56very good at manipulating women's sympathies and therefore can't be dealt with effectively. So,
41:01I mean, by that, I just mean putting in jail or something like that. So, all right. Would you be
41:06willing to write some short stories fleshing out some of your characters' backgrounds from the
41:10future, kind of like the Canterbury Tales? I've always been particularly interested in the doctor's
41:16backstory, how he came to the Civ and what he needed to do in order to join. Really clever detail
41:21of his
41:21character. Actually, it's a lawyer, not a doctor. Really clever detail of his character to have some
41:25extra pounds on him, hinting to him being poorly raised in a competing Civ before coming to
41:30the Civ, your world. The audio version of the future was absolute peak, really brought the characters
41:34alive for me. Thank you again for all you do, Steph. That's a very interesting idea. I would
41:38certainly mull that over and I appreciate that. How to get rid of the H-1B program or cap it
41:42by
41:42country at least? What psychotherapy should actually do to prevent or treat effectively
41:47borderline personality disorder? So, I did some research not too long ago and when I was sort
41:52of coming up and I sort of took psychology when I was in university, borderline personality was
41:59basically, well, you can manage some symptoms, but you can't really fix it. And what it will do is
42:03it will fade in its intensity over time. The borderline personalities, it's sort of halfway
42:08between neurosis and psychosis. These are the people who are like, you know, they'll call their
42:16therapists at two in the morning saying, I need a session now or I'm going to, you know, X myself
42:20or something like that. So, I mean, really, I love you. I hate you. Don't leave me. You know,
42:26that kind of real rollercoaster kind of crazy stuff. But there do appear to be some treatments that can
42:32be helpful and effective. And I would recommend looking into that as a whole. So, the earlier the
42:39trauma, I think this is just my particular idea, right? This is nothing official or scientific or
42:44anything like that. But the earlier the trauma, the worse the problems, right? So, psychosis,
42:51you know, complete sociopathy and so on. Those are, you know, very early childhood, like infancy
42:59abuses or maybe even stuff in the womb. And then if you make it through that with relative peace,
43:05and then if you get abused in sort of the first year or two or three of life, then you
43:10are maybe
43:12narcissistic and so on. And then later you're just neurotic and later you're just anxious. So,
43:16you know, the problems go down the later that the issues take, that the abuses sort of hit or take
43:24root. And so, I'm not obviously a therapist. So, to prevent borderline personality disorder, unless
43:31there's some genetic thing that I don't know about, or I don't think anybody knows about it, but, you
43:37know, peace, love, virtue, affection from conception onwards is the way to prevent it, I think.
43:45Treat effectively, that's tough, you know. So, you can help people who are victims. So, if you've been
43:52abused as a child and you managed to contain your impulses or desire to abuse others, then you can be
43:59helped. The problem that the, to me, the real borderline about when people become very difficult, if not
44:06perhaps even impossible, to help is if they have become victimizers, right? So, let's just sort of take a
44:15an example. It's a little bit of a cardboard cutout, but an example would be a woman who is horrendously
44:21abused as a baby, a toddler, a child, and so on. Then she is a victim, obviously, completely 150%
44:31total sympathy and empathy, and we would sort of have anger at her parents for their horrendous
44:37mistreatment of a helpless baby, infant, toddler, and so on. And if you have been a victim, then you
44:47can get angry at your victimizers, and that is a healthy and helpful thing. However, if this woman
44:56has grown up and she has, usually, often through sexual appeal and so on, she has now really harmed
45:05others, right? So, she has terrorized men. She maybe has launched false accusations against men. She
45:12spread horrendous malicious gossip, destroying the reputations of men. She has tyrannized men and so on
45:20by saying, you know, if you leave me, I'm going to do X, Y, or Z, terrible things. And she
45:25has become
45:26a tyrant and a victimizer of others, right? So, think of your immune system, right? You want your
45:32immune system to attack things that aren't part of your body. I guess transplants accepted, but you want
45:40your immune system to attack things that aren't your body, and you don't want it to attack your body,
45:46right? If it attacks your body, you have an autoimmune disorder, which can be quite
45:50debilitating. So, in the same way, if healing people of psychological distress that is caused
46:00by evil has something to do with moral clarity, then if the woman has grown up and tyrannized,
46:06often men or maybe other women, but she's just been horrendous to people, then she has every reason,
46:11of course, to be angry at the parents who mistreated her when she was a child. But the problem is,
46:16the righteous anger that she has towards the evils of others is a weapon that goes off when she uses
46:23it in her own face, right? Like those terrible muskets or First World War weapons from the shady
46:28manufacturers who, they went off in people's faces, right? So, it's tough to get a bead on evildoers and
46:37get angry at them if, well, it's half a mirror that you're aiming at, right? So, once people have
46:45crossed over into doing irreparable and undoable harm to others, then they do appear to be at least
46:51beyond the reach of moral clarity. Because the degree of rage or anger, which I think would be
46:58healthy, that in their minds they would unload or unleash upon their abusers, well,
47:04the more angry they get at their abusers, which I think is a healthy thing, the more angry and
47:10contemptuous and hostile they're going to get towards themselves. Like, once you've joined the
47:15ranks of the Dark Souls, it's kind of tough to switch the light on, right? So, I think there's a
47:20point
47:20beyond which it becomes somewhat irreversible. All right. Ken, what's your opinion on looks maxing?
47:27Well, I think it's important to be attractive, but you don't want to become obsessive.
47:30Right. I mean, it's the Aristotelian mean. You need to care about your looks, but not only about
47:34your looks. Can single mothers use peaceful parenting if their child does not believe the
47:38mother has any authority over them? Kids seem to work this out fairly quickly. Well, single mothers
47:44can use peaceful parenting, but single mothers need to admit fault. Now, of course, one of the
47:50challenges is that if single mothers were able to admit fault, they probably wouldn't have ended up
47:55as single mothers. So, the single mother needs to say to the child, right, needs to say, I made a
48:01mistake in choosing your father. He was a bad man, and he betrayed us, and I'm asking you to have
48:08judgment as a little kid when I didn't have good judgment as a grown woman. So, people don't mind
48:15if you've made mistakes. They mind if you pretend you haven't made mistakes. And so, the single
48:22mother needs to have credibility, right, to have credibility, the single mother needs to say,
48:28I chose the wrong man to be your father. He was a bad man, and I'm old enough. I was
48:35old enough to
48:36know better. I let my desires get the better of me. I was unwise, and blah, blah, blah. And, you
48:41know,
48:41so just, I made a mistake. I made a mistake, and you should learn from my mistake. Kids don't mind
48:48being lectured to if they're lectured with humility, if they're lectured with humility. So, if there's a
48:57grandfather who says, you shouldn't smoke, even if he's still a smoker, or he used to smoke,
49:03you shouldn't smoke, okay, that's fine. If he says, you know, I smoked and I shouldn't, right?
49:10I shouldn't have, and I'm going to give you that lesson. However, if the grandfather is puffing away
49:15on a cigarette saying, smoking is bad, wrong, and stupid, then it's like so disconnected from
49:23reality and how you're presenting yourself that you're just not going to have any credibility.
49:27So, single mothers can use peaceful parenting. Why does the child not see the mother as having
49:32any authority? Because the mother is hypocritical, and hypocrites have no authority. So, if you want
49:40to have authority, particularly in moral matters, you have to not be an active hypocrite in the
49:45moment. Like, you know, we've all, I'm sorry, I've certainly acted against reason, and I've talked
49:50about my limitations of spending many years pursuing rational philosophy without actually having it
49:55inform my personal relationships very decisively. So, that was a problem. So, I, you know, of course,
50:02with my callers, I'm consistently saying, I've made mistakes too, and you're further ahead than I was
50:08at your age. So, it's important to be, as if I said, well, I've been perfect my whole life, and
50:13you
50:13should just follow my perfect example. Like, that would just be gross and false, right? So, I mean,
50:19this is another problem with kids in school. Why do the boys have ADHD? Because the boys very often
50:24are smarter than their teachers. All right. Is death an appropriate punishment for male genital
50:28mutilation? No. No. However, a counter-circumcision as an adult with an anesthetic like they inflict on
50:34others. Could be an eye for an eye thing. What world problems wouldn't be in some degree bettered
50:39by a standardization of love on a societal level? I don't really understand that question. So,
50:43if you'd like to rephrase it and send it in again, you can always email me support at
50:47freedomain.com. All right. Thank you, everyone, of course, so much for this wonderful life of reason,
50:54thought, consideration, and virtue. I really appreciate it. freedomain.com slash donate.
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51:04and humbly appreciate it. I hope you have a wonderful, wonderful day. Lots of love from
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