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Just a few years ago, sisters Chloe x Halle lit up the music world through a "little" YouTube collection of hit song covers. Since then, they've relocated to Los Angeles from Atlanta, been signed to Beyoncé's management company, have performed on the stages of SXSW at the request of Michelle Obama, and basically have been living the teenage dream. On this episode of UnStyled, Chloe x Halle talk about life, developing as young artists, and their rituals for manifesting their music...and dreams. Thank you to Chloe x Halle and Parkwood Entertainment for permission to feature Chloe x Halle's song 'Up All NIght' in this episode!
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00:01Welcome to Unstyled. I'm your host, Christine Barbrick, co-founder and global editor-in-chief
00:06of Refinery29. Each week, I invite a notable person to come in and talk with us as we explore
00:12the funny, inspiring, sometimes heartbreaking tales of life, work, and love, as told through
00:19the things that we wear. When the singing sister duo Chloe and Halle appeared in the visual album
00:31for Lemonade last year, Google searches for the two teenage beauties spiked, as did immediate
00:37interest in how they landed in Queen Beyoncé's court. Given how old they are, Chloe turned 19 in
00:44July, Halle is 17. It's not a very long story, but it does sound a little like a modern-day
00:49fairy tale. The girls grew up in Atlanta and started making music together when they were
00:54barely tweens. In 2011, they lobbied their parents to post a cover they had recorded of the best
01:00thing I ever had to YouTube. And it didn't take long for that video to go viral, which
01:05turned attention toward their other cover songs, including an unbelievably moving rework of
01:11Pretty Hurts, that ultimately wound up on Beyoncé's own Facebook page.
01:16Soon enough, the siblings were being groomed by the Queen Bee herself. They also secured a
01:21million-dollar contract with her label, Parkwood Entertainment. They've since moved to Los Angeles,
01:26performed at the White House and on the stages of South by Southwest, and released a critically
01:31acclaimed EP called The Two of Us and a brand-new album this fall. And while they're still working
01:37on the grander goal of locking down a Grammy, something tells us they're definitely on the
01:42right track. Though it's not as if they don't have plenty of time. The truth is, for all they've
01:47already accomplished, Chloe and Halle are just getting started.
02:00Chloe and Halle, welcome to Unstyled. I am so excited to have the two of you here.
02:04I read that at the beginning of every year, each of you prepares a vision board. And I have to
02:10say,
02:10I got really, really excited about that because I do that too.
02:13You do?
02:14Yes. I've been keeping a journal since I was 17, and vision boards are just really special to me.
02:21Where did the practice come from? And I would love to hear about how you guys do it. Do you
02:24do it
02:24together? Do you do it separately?
02:26Oh my goodness. Well, us doing our vision boards has now turned into this tradition that we do every
02:34New Year's in our family.
02:36New Year's Eve or New Year's Day?
02:37We'll do it New Year's Eve.
02:39And then after the clock strikes midnight, and it's now the first.
02:44Then we present it to the whole family.
02:46And we'll sit in the living room, and we'll share our affirmations and our goals for the year.
02:50So it's like the New Year's Eve. It's a full day project. We get all of these magazines.
02:55This is Chloe, by the way. We get all of these magazines.
02:58Hello.
02:58Hello. Hello. And we have our scissors and our glue, and we're just ripping out stuff that speaks to us.
03:04We'll rip it out. We'll rip it out. So by the end, we'll have all of these clippings.
03:08And so we'll cut them really cute with these fancy scissors.
03:12Make it pretty.
03:13Is there any glitter in there? Stickers?
03:15Oh, yes.
03:15There's glitter. We have a bunch of flower stickers everywhere. And by the way, by the end of this process,
03:21like, our house is trash.
03:23I know.
03:23It's really bad, but we're really passionate about getting proper magazines.
03:29So we have this pile of what inspires us and what we want. And then we try to find a
03:35way to really clarify it on this board.
03:39And we kind of piece it together really nice. And when you're finished, you step back and you look at
03:45it and you're like, wow, this is going to be this year for, you know, for me, it's being more
03:50in tune with who I am and not being afraid to speak out.
03:54Because I love making people feel good and being a people pleaser, but sometimes I leave myself out.
04:00So I'm learning how to be more in tune with who I am as an individual. I'm learning how to
04:03really, truly be a woman.
04:05And drive.
04:06Yes.
04:07Yes. Yes. Truly, at the end of the day, that is independence.
04:11And what about you? What was your what was your sort of like big kind of culminating message on your
04:17on your vision board this year?
04:18Well, I feel like this is mine every year. But for this year, it rang in my ears more to
04:23grow in my craft.
04:25I play guitar and sometimes I feel like I'm at a standstill with how much I'm learning on it.
04:31I'm a procrastinator. I feel like most of us probably do procrastinate.
04:36But I'm like queen procrastinator.
04:38Really?
04:38So, yes. But I have to learn how to push past that.
04:41So that was like the main thing on my board. No more procrastinating. Getting my goals done.
04:47Yeah.
04:48I actually read that procrastination is your sort of inner compass telling you that you don't want to do that
04:55thing and you don't need to do that thing to grow.
04:58It's like we almost sort of instinctually just know what it is we need to be doing.
05:03Oh, that's I like that.
05:04Maybe don't be so hard on yourself when you're not doing that stuff.
05:06Okay. Yeah, that makes sense.
05:09So you're a little bit older, Chloe.
05:11Yes, I am.
05:12So do you feel like you kind of like guide the two of you or you're pretty equal?
05:15I really believe we're equal. My sister is such an old soul and sometimes I forget I'm the older sister.
05:21That's why she procrastinates because she's done all this stuff already.
05:23And she's like, I've been here in another life.
05:25She's just like, yeah. She's like, oh, this is so boring. I have to do this again.
05:28Right. And, you know, I really admire my sister because she knows what she wants in life.
05:34And I'm learning that from her to be very upfront with my feelings.
05:37She's like, I want this, this, this, this, and this.
05:40And I'm not afraid to speak my mind.
05:41Hallie is.
05:42Hallie is.
05:42And I think that is so important for even young females to know to speak their mind and speak what
05:48they want because that's how you're happy.
05:50And so I learned that from my sister every day.
05:53And I feel like we're partners in crime.
05:55So yeah, yin and yang.
05:57And referring back to your question, personally, I think maybe because I'm the little sister and I look to the
06:03older sister for like the next move.
06:05But I do feel like she's the steer of the ship.
06:09You know, she produces all of our music and is so amazing in what she does.
06:15And when we sit there and write and do the creative process together.
06:19Yeah, I add a few guitars, but watching her create such an amazing work of art just from a little
06:25bit of time she has, that's something that's always so inspiring to me.
06:30And Hallie, you said one of your goals this year was to really develop your guitar craft a little bit
06:34more.
06:35So what kind of guitarists are you really like, do you feel inspired by?
06:39I mean, there's like so many good ones.
06:40Yes, Lenny Kravitz has always been like, one of my hugest guitar inspirations, just because of what you feel through
06:50his fingers as he's playing, what emotion that emits from you.
06:54He's a he's a vibe person.
06:56Exactly.
06:57Oh, yeah.
06:57So that's that's what I want to do.
07:00I want to make it another form of like self-expression for myself, because with singing, it's so easy to
07:07just express how I'm feeling and tell everybody stories and in a few amount of words.
07:14But with guitar, it's a whole different story, because I feel like it's more difficult, because I don't have the
07:21words.
07:22So I'm having to put it through my fingers some more.
07:26So that's something I'm so excited for.
07:28And there's like so many good female guitarists, too.
07:31Absolutely.
07:31Just look at Heart.
07:33Yes.
07:33You know, just look at the band Heart, Anne and Nancy Wilson.
07:36That's all you need to say.
07:37Yeah.
07:38And Joan Jett.
07:39I mean, she can really play guitar.
07:41Chloe, so you and your sister and your dad moved from Atlanta.
07:46Yes.
07:46When you as a as a musical duo really started to take off, or at least you started to see
07:52momentum.
07:53But you guys were driven.
07:54You knew that this was what you wanted to do.
07:56And why L.A.?
07:57And I want to hear what that transition was like leaving your family.
08:00I mean, you have a mom and you have other siblings that are still in Atlanta.
08:04That must be really tough.
08:06Yeah.
08:06You know, we have such supportive parents and such a loving family.
08:11They're with us every single step of the way.
08:13And I think that's so important.
08:15I remember the last day we were packing the house and there was a grasshopper on our porch door.
08:21And it was huge.
08:22It was like this big.
08:24And, you know, we're all about like symbols and what the universe is trying to tell you.
08:29So we researched it and it's saying you're moving in the right direction.
08:33Continue to leap forward.
08:34So we really went, okay, that was the confirmation we needed.
08:39It just gave me chills.
08:41It did?
08:41Yeah.
08:42We were like, we're ready to do this.
08:44And here we are in L.A.
08:46And Hallie's in love with the sun.
08:49I get my life every day.
08:51It makes me happier.
08:53I go out there.
08:53So L.A.'s working out for you.
08:54Yes.
08:54Oh, yeah.
08:55So you definitely surround yourself with strong women.
08:59And I love that about your music.
09:01And obviously, you know, your working relationship with Beyonce is obviously, I'm sure, incredibly influential.
09:08But, you know, what kind of women do you really look up to?
09:11Oh, I have such, such a long list.
09:14Okay.
09:14So first and foremost, it'd have to be my mom.
09:17Like.
09:18And she works at Twitter?
09:19Yeah.
09:19She's a recruiter.
09:20And so she recruits for all of her different clients and Twitter's one of them.
09:23That sounds like a tough job.
09:24Yeah.
09:24She's so good at it.
09:26Mom is so cool.
09:27Shout out to mom.
09:28I know.
09:29She knows how to connect with people on like a spiritual level.
09:33And it's like, it's really cool.
09:34I want to meet her.
09:35What's her name?
09:36Courtney.
09:37And here she has two daughters that are basically have made it their career to, you know, bear their soul
09:43in their music.
09:44That's such an interesting parallel.
09:46I know.
09:47Right.
09:48So definitely my mom.
09:49And of course, the Queen Bee.
09:51We love Beyonce.
09:52You know, as talented as she is and as influential she is to almost every single human being around the
10:00world, she's a really, really good person.
10:02And she's so humble and down to earth.
10:04And, you know, it doesn't matter.
10:07It doesn't matter what you create.
10:10It doesn't matter who you know.
10:12It matters about your heart, what's in your heart.
10:16Because that, that is what people read.
10:19People can feel your heart and your intentions.
10:22And I believe that's why she's as big as she is because of her intentions and where it comes from.
10:28So I'm so happy we have her as a mentor because she's been through all of this.
10:33She's been in the game since she was like 10.
10:35And she knows the obstacles that, you know, being a young girl in the business faces.
10:39And I'm happy I have my sister because we can go through that together.
10:44So those would be my top two.
10:47I'm sorry.
10:47I got some more.
10:48I love Imogene Heath.
10:49But I think, oh, I mean, she's incredible.
10:52But I want to say one thing about Beyonce, which I think is so interesting.
10:55And I'm sure we all kind of aspire to have not just a career but a life like this, is
11:01that it's not just about performing.
11:03Like this is really like her, it's really her mission and her creative path.
11:07And you can tell that she's a true artist and that she's just, she just keeps getting better and better
11:12and more interesting and more complex.
11:14And, you know, I think there's something so extraordinary about that quality to just be just in a constant state
11:23of evolution and sort of showing it and expressing it in lots of different ways.
11:27And also by the fact that she just, she does seem like a genuinely nice person.
11:31She really is.
11:33You tell her I said hi.
11:34Oh, my gosh, I will.
11:37But Imogene Heap.
11:38So let's talk about her.
11:39I, when did I fall in love with Imogene Heap?
11:42Her voice.
11:43Oh, my goodness.
11:43Her voice is angelic.
11:46It hits you right to the core, but also her production skills and the way she uses music and technology
11:53and morphs them into one.
11:55I, I find that so inspiring.
11:57I hope one day that I am able to reach new heights like she is with her gloves that she
12:03has or she can, you know, change waveforms in the air like that is so creative.
12:08You can do that on the computer on Ableton and Logic, but actually physically doing it with your hands in
12:13the air.
12:13And I love Imogene Heap.
12:15And I hope one day I get to meet her.
12:17And I also feel that way about Meryl Garbus, the whole like mastermind of tune yards.
12:22You know, she does the same thing.
12:24The, the way she combines her elements of live instrumentation and her looping.
12:31I have to get you guys together.
12:32Oh, my gosh.
12:33Unstyled is going to bring you all together.
12:35I know it.
12:37That would be a dream for me.
12:38Meryl Garbus is, oh.
12:40I love her.
12:41And she's not afraid to be who she is.
12:43She'll just be up there in a t-shirt and just sing her heart out.
12:46And I'm just like, oh, wow.
12:49Yeah.
12:49Do you guys think you'll want to produce people too?
12:52Absolutely.
12:53Yeah.
12:54What do you think, Hallie?
12:55Yes, of course.
12:57That's what is so great about music because sharing is caring.
13:01You should.
13:02It is.
13:03Yeah, it really is.
13:04You should keep that feeling going.
13:07Just wonderful music.
13:09Keep it going.
13:10It must be like playing.
13:11It must be like being in the art studio.
13:13It's really.
13:13And I'm sure technology keeps getting more and more sophisticated too.
13:18And growing up, I loved technology, anything tech.
13:22I'm such a nerd.
13:23And I loved Legos.
13:24So I feel like when I'm producing, I'm combining both of those skills.
13:30I'm putting things together like I'm building Legos.
13:33Yeah, music is math anyway.
13:35Yeah.
13:35And that's why I think you excel in that because Chloe has always been so smart.
13:41You like math?
13:42Oh, yeah.
13:43Really?
13:44It comes in handy.
13:46It really does.
13:46I want to talk a little bit about style.
13:49I was looking at pictures of the two of you, and it's so amazing to see how much the two
13:53of you have changed and just evolved.
13:55There's like a real like courage in your dressing now.
14:00You guys in pantsuits.
14:01I'm sorry, but that's all I want to see is pattern like Miu Miu and Prada pantsuits
14:06in the two of you all the time.
14:08Thank you so much.
14:08Yeah.
14:09Are there any designers that you guys really love, that you love to work with?
14:12Redarte.
14:12We love Redarte.
14:14Well, they're in L.A.
14:15I mean, they're local.
14:15Have you worked with them yet?
14:16Yeah, we met them and we've worn their pieces a lot, but we'd love, I think what we love
14:21about them is that they're sisters.
14:22You feel that bond.
14:24You see it in their pieces and their artwork and I love them.
14:29So they'd have to be one of mine.
14:38Your hair is like such a recognizable part of your looks.
14:41Tell me about your hair and just like your relationship to your hair.
14:43Oh my goodness.
14:45Well, we have had our locks since we were like five and seven years old and they've just been
14:52growing ever since.
14:54We identify our locks with being beautiful and it's a sense of freedom when we wear our hair
15:03naturally because, you know, it's all we've ever known.
15:07It's who we are and we don't think twice about it.
15:10But when people come up to us and are like, wow, your hair is so beautiful.
15:14Like, how did you do this?
15:15You're inspiring me to wear my hair natural.
15:18That's something that is so like, wow, that's pretty cool.
15:22That makes me so happy.
15:23It really does.
15:24And I can't believe that two little girls could hold that power to do that to some young
15:31women.
15:32And for that, I'm grateful for.
15:34Tell me about the jewelry in your hair.
15:36Yes.
15:36Okay.
15:37So we get our little jewels from like arts and craft stores like Michael's or the beauty
15:42supply store.
15:43You mean they're not like 24 karat gold like rings?
15:46Nope.
15:46They're like dolly.
15:47Looks can be deceiving.
15:48Eventually.
15:48Eventually.
15:49Maybe one day.
15:50But, you know, I am so clumsy and I lose everything.
15:53I'd probably be scared to like lose a jewel.
15:55They're really beautiful.
15:55Thank you so much.
15:57And my sister and I, we like to like get this curly look.
16:00I like to braid my lock.
16:01So like after I wash my hair, I'll braid it and I'll let it sit for a day.
16:05And then it'll come out like curly like this.
16:07The curls kind of went down since we were like performing in the hot heat yesterday and I
16:11was sweating and all that stuff.
16:13But, you know, we like to do different curling patterns.
16:16And then we do these things called Nubia knots where it looks like Bantu knots.
16:19And it's like these cute little balls all over our head and the curls are more wavy.
16:25And so that's really fun to do.
16:26And one of my favorite things to put in my hair is coconut oil.
16:30And then for the...
16:30How often?
16:31Oh, like every day.
16:33I use it for my skin too.
16:34And then for the edges.
16:35It's really good for you.
16:35Coconut oil is the answer to everything.
16:37Yep.
16:38Yes.
16:38Yep.
16:39I do that draw, that mouth draw or whatever.
16:42Oh, yes.
16:42When you like gargle it.
16:43I have to try that.
16:44It's gross.
16:45I do it.
16:45I do it every morning.
16:46Your teeth look good.
16:49This is radio, but they said my teeth look good.
16:51Thanks.
16:52And then for my edges, because I like to keep my edges laid, I do castor oil to keep them
16:56like thick and full because I don't want to lose any edges.
17:02Never.
17:03Never.
17:03I know what a mixtape is, but what's your mixtape?
17:06Yes.
17:06Oh my gosh.
17:07So my sister and I, we created this body of work and we wanted to create a mixtape, but
17:15kind of not really a mixtape.
17:16And we called it the two of us.
17:18We write so many songs.
17:19We have like 400 and there are so many.
17:21Do you really write a song a day?
17:22Yes.
17:23Every day?
17:24Yes.
17:24Well, we're not traveling.
17:26Yeah.
17:26Yeah.
17:26That is like a discipline.
17:28It's fun.
17:28Thanks.
17:29It's fun.
17:29It's like a diary for us.
17:31So it's like once you get in that rhythm, the creativity just keeps.
17:35Exactly.
17:35And you know, because your journals, sometimes it just pours out.
17:38Yeah.
17:39Yeah.
17:39A lot of times it's just dreck though, too.
17:41Sometimes it'll be like three, you know, three, four weeks where I'm just writing about
17:44the same thing.
17:45And then there's like this like bolt of lightning.
17:47Uh-huh.
17:47You know, that's anyway.
17:49Mixtape.
17:50Continue.
17:51So we have, we have all these ideas and we're like, we kind of like these.
17:55I mean, even though they're not like as great as the album, we really like these.
17:59What are we going to do with them?
18:00And, you know, we have really incredible supporters and they've been waiting so patiently.
18:05We wanted to put something out just for them.
18:08So, you know, my sister and I, we got all our ideas that we liked and we're like, how
18:11can we flow these really cool into one another?
18:14Yeah.
18:14So we basically put them together and turned it into a mixtape and it's called The Two
18:20of Us.
18:21And the reason why we titled it The Two of Us is because we made it just in our living
18:26room.
18:26Just the two of us making it, chilling, songwriting every day.
18:31And we wanted our fans to hear a piece of our lives and the music that we were hearing
18:36because it had been about a year ever since we put out our first project, our EP, Sugar
18:41Symphony.
18:42So we wanted the fans to have something before the album.
18:45So this was to hold them over.
18:47So good.
18:56When you go and perform, you know, what are some of the most common things that your fans
19:01actually ask you or, you know, basically just like want to or want to tell you?
19:07What do you think, Chloe?
19:08This one event in particular popped up in my head.
19:12I believe we had a show in our hometown Atlanta and this beautiful-
19:16That must feel good going back home and performing.
19:18It feels really, really great.
19:20And we met this beautiful young girl.
19:23She looked maybe like she was 16, 17, around our age.
19:26And we have this song called Baby Bird.
19:29And she told us, well, Baby Bird's about, you know, learning how to spread your wings
19:34and fly on your own and not being afraid to fall.
19:38And she told us that that song really resonated with her.
19:41And, you know, she doesn't have the best relationship with her family.
19:44They don't really believe in her dreams.
19:46But every time she hears Baby Bird, she believes in herself again.
19:49Hearing that, it tells us that we're doing something right, you know?
19:53And all we ever want to do is inspire.
19:55There's such purpose there.
19:57People to follow their hearts.
20:00And I'm such a, oh my gosh.
20:02And really walk in their truth and their purpose.
20:06And hearing stuff like that sets my soul on fire because that's all we ever wanted to do.
20:11Oh my God.
20:12No, that's good.
20:13But this is a good segue for this.
20:15Why do you think Pretty Hurts, like, resonated so powerfully coming from the two of you?
20:22Well, you answered this.
20:24No, there's a lot of truth in that, what you just said.
20:27It really, really is.
20:28And I think that when you know when you're connecting, you're touching somebody's life and helping to really impact the
20:35course of their life.
20:36I mean, there's just such meaning to that.
20:38I think Pretty Hurts resonated with people because, I don't know, I guess it was us as young girls singing
20:45that song.
20:46The message of that song is so powerful.
20:47And hearing those words that she says in the song, it resonates with so many people.
20:55And I guess since we were young girls saying that, I guess it was more, it got through to people
21:01some more.
21:01For some reason, I still don't know, to be honest.
21:05I think that, no, I think the fact that you're, it's a different perspective.
21:07Yeah.
21:08What do you think, Chloe?
21:09Why do you think it really stuck with people?
21:10Wow, well, one, the songwriting in the song, you know, Sia and Beyonce did such an incredible job, you know,
21:18explaining what women go through, trying to live up to it all.
21:24Yeah, live up to what the world wants us to be.
21:27So, one, the lyrics.
21:29And two, when it's stripped down, it gives the lyrics more of a spotlight.
21:34So, when it was just my piano and our voices, people heard the message more clear.
21:40And then three, us being as young as we are, we were, we were like, how old were we?
21:46We weren't that young.
21:4813 and 15?
21:4913 and 15.
21:49That was not long.
21:50Yeah, that wasn't, wow, that felt like yesterday, because it was yesterday.
21:55That's three years ago.
21:56Yeah.
21:57You know, if I put myself in someone else's shoes, and I saw, like, maybe someone like 9 or 11
22:03singing something that means so deep to me, it would resonate with me.
22:07My sister and I, we love kids.
22:09We're still kids, but just the innocence and how they're not afraid to really speak their mind and be vulnerable
22:15and be themselves.
22:17So, I think maybe that's why.
22:19I don't know.
22:20I'm grateful it went everywhere.
22:22Yeah.
22:22Yeah.
22:23No, I think there was a sense of rawness to it.
22:26Tell me about the new album.
22:29Oh, my goodness.
22:29Do you want to go first, Hallie?
22:31Sure.
22:31The title of our album.
22:33Kids are all right.
22:35Nice.
22:37This album has been such a whirlwind journey of happiness and beauty.
22:45And it's basically an anthem for the youth, you know?
22:48And it's supposed to help us get through whatever it is we're going through and all of our goals to
22:58be made.
22:59And it's just supposed to be an inspiring album to help you.
23:03You know, even though we are young, our ideas matter so much.
23:08And what we have to say is so important.
23:10And people shouldn't worry about us.
23:12People shouldn't worry about this generation because we're going to be all right.
23:16You know, our minds reach areas that no shade, older generations' minds haven't reached before.
23:24And I am so happy that I'm living in this era and, you know, being one of the voices to
23:31speak.
23:31And I hope, you know, people of all ages really connect with our album.
23:36Not just kids, but adults and find that kid within themselves.
23:40So I'm excited.
23:42Do you guys ever fight?
23:44I can't even imagine.
23:45Don't.
23:46Oh, my goodness.
23:47Really?
23:48What do you do?
23:48Okay, so if you guys fight, like, what do you fight about?
23:51Coconut oil.
23:52Yes.
23:53Really?
23:53Can't you just each have your own?
23:54I mean, do you have to share?
23:56Yeah, but they normally come in, like, big jugs.
23:58So it's only smart to share.
24:01I know.
24:02So normally it's in her room.
24:03I'm like, Chloe, where's the coconut oil?
24:05She's like, I lost it.
24:06I'm like, why you lose the coconut oil?
24:07What?
24:08You lost it?
24:09How can you lose a huge jug of coconut oil?
24:11Well, is that really what happened?
24:13Yes.
24:13Because you don't know where it is in your backpack.
24:15Maybe.
24:16We hate holding grudges, and our arguments only last for, like, five seconds.
24:20Five seconds.
24:21Yeah.
24:21And I'm a very, like, straightforward person.
24:25So sometimes things that I say I don't realize are insensitive.
24:29And then next thing you know, Chloe would be like, that was really rude.
24:32You just hurt my face.
24:34I'm like, what are you talking about?
24:35I really did not mean to.
24:36You're like, I'm just looking for the coconut oil.
24:38Yeah.
24:39I don't know what you're talking about.
24:42So things like that.
24:43And it's just finding the balance between sisters.
24:46If anybody has a sister, they go through the same thing.
24:49Or a best friend, you know?
24:50I think that's where it really shows how close you are.
24:53Yeah.
24:54We always say sorry.
24:56Who's always the first one to say sorry?
24:57Chloe said sorry first.
24:58I don't, because I'm the sensitive cancer, I don't like people to be mad at me.
25:02Oh, you're July, right?
25:03And you're March.
25:03Are you Pisces?
25:04I'm an Aries.
25:05Oh, you're an Aries.
25:06Aries and cancer.
25:07Yeah.
25:08Yeah.
25:09So I love my sis.
25:11Chloe and Hallie, thank you so much for being here.
25:13This was so much fun.
25:15Thank you so much.
25:15We love you.
25:15We had so much fun.
25:16We had a blast.
25:17I know.
25:18Good.
25:18Come back soon.
25:19Yes.
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25:55Our show today was executive produced by Sarah Bernard, associate produced by Rebecca Easley,
26:00and edited by Priscilla Mena.
26:02Copy support was provided by Elizabeth Kiefer.
26:05Our theme music today is by the artist Koff, and we recorded Unstyled with Paul Ruist at Argo
26:10Studios.
26:11We'll see you back here next Monday for a conversation with Stacey London on finding the courage to reboot
26:17your life.
26:19We'll see you back here next Monday.
26:20Bye.