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اروپای امروز؛ رویارویی توسک و ناوروکی و بحران دادگاه قانون اساسی لهستان
رئیس‌جمهور لهستان کارول ناوروکی برای مطالبه بازگشت رئیس محافظه‌کار معلق به دادگاه قانون اساسی رفت؛ همزمان دولت توسک قضات تازه را منصوب کرد و پلیس ضدشورش با معترضان درگیر شد؛ اوکراین در آستانه زمستان و بحران ابولا.
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رئیس‌جمهور لهستان کارول ناوروکی برای مطالبه بازگشت رئیس محافظه‌کار معلق به دادگاه قانون اساسی رفت؛ همزمان دولت توسک قضات تازه را منصوب کرد و پلیس ضدشورش با معترضان درگیر شد؛ اوکراین در آستانه زمستان و بحران ابولا.
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00:14Good morning, it's Monday, November the 2nd. You're watching Euronews, and this is Europe Today.
00:21Our top stories. Poland's long-standing political battle over the judiciary has reached a new flashpoint after President Karol Nawrowski
00:31forced his way into the Constitutional Tribunal amid clashes between riot police and anti-government protesters.
00:39Nawrowski and supporters are demanding the reinstatement of a conservative top judge whose suspension is backed by Prime Minister Donald
00:47Tusk's pro-EU government.
00:48Mass demonstrations in Germany that passed largely peacefully turned violent as night fell on Saturday, and rioters faced off against
00:57police in Frankfurt, Cologne, Hamburg, and Berlin.
01:01The protesters demanded better education and lower living costs. Authorities made arrests and used water cannons to break up the
01:09crowds.
01:09Rioters threw Molotov cocktails and set of fireworks, with police maintaining a visible presence after the streets had emptied on
01:17Sunday.
01:18And China has shown no interest in holding a three-way summit with Russia and the United States on Ukraine.
01:25That's according to German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier in an interview broadcast last night following Steinmeier's meeting with Chinese President
01:34Xi Jinping in Beijing.
01:36China considers Ukraine a purely European affair, Steinmeier said.
01:40The three-way summit was proposed by Vladimir Putin and had the backing of Donald Trump.
01:46Welcome to the program. I'm Stefan Grober.
01:49Poland is facing a deepening constitutional crisis with the government and the presidency locked in a bitter battle over who
01:57controls the judiciary.
01:59The government under Donald Tusk says it is restoring the rule of law.
02:04President Karol Nawrowski's camp accuses it of trying to seize the courts.
02:08So, who is really undermining Poland's democracy?
02:12And can this confrontation be resolved before it spirals further?
02:17We're going to hear from both sides of the issue.
02:20First, I'm joined by Michal Wawrkiewicz, a member of the European Parliament for the European People's Party, the party of
02:27Donald Tusk.
02:28Good morning and thanks for coming on.
02:31Good morning. Thank you for having me.
02:33So, we've now seen an extraordinary confrontation with newly elected judges entering the tribunal, the president of the court being
02:43challenged and President Karol Nawrowski personally intervening.
02:47Who actually has the legal authority to decide who sits on the tribunal and who runs it?
02:53We are facing the huge constitutional crisis in Poland, in the constitutional court of Poland since 2015 when the Law
03:05and Justice Party started the government and they brutally assaulted the constitutional court.
03:12Since that time, we had a lot of violations and this situation was challenged by all possible courts, also European
03:23courts, European courts of human rights and the court of justice.
03:26And they all confirmed that what has happened in 2015, 2016 and later on, that was the violation.
03:34Now, we are the government of Donald Tusk and the majority in the parliament and the judges who were elected
03:42by the parliament are trying to restore the rule of law in the parliament.
03:47And what we have seen is that on Friday, newly elected judges entered the constitutional court and Judge Anna Korvin
04:01-Piotrowska ordered the suspension of two judges, the president and the vice president of the constitutional court, who were appointed
04:11by the Law and Justice Party.
04:13So, uh, let me, let me ask you this.
04:17The government says it is restoring judicial independence after years of political weaponization under the Law and Justice Party.
04:24But isn't the government now doing exactly what it accused Law and Justice of doing, using political power to reshape
04:31the judiciary?
04:33Definitely not.
04:34Uh, the, the government, the majority in the parliament and the judges elected by the parliament are acting according to
04:43the law.
04:43To the rulings of the European courts, of the court of justice and the European court of human rights, according
04:49to what Venice commission confirmed just two weeks ago, and according to the interim measure, which was issued on the
04:575th of May this year, allowing these judges to enter the constitutional court.
05:02They were blocked by the president and the vice president and that's why, uh, Judge Anna Korvin-Piotrowska decided to
05:11suspend these two judges, president and the vice president of the court.
05:15And, uh, that is what happened on Friday.
05:18And later on, on, in the night, what we have seen was the brutal assault of the president of the
05:25republic who entered, using force, entered the building of the constitutional court, and using the force, uh, almost, uh, damaged
05:35the, uh, judges standing in front of the court.
05:38So, this is what we have seen, that was the brutal assault of the president of the republic on the
05:44independence of the constitutional court.
05:46So, the European commission says the same, the parliament, has the constitutional power to appoint judges to the constitutional tribunal.
05:55Does that settle the argument?
05:57Yes, definitely, the only competent, uh, authority in Poland to appoint, uh, judges of the constitutional court is the parliament,
06:06the lower chamber of the parliament, uh, in Poland.
06:09The president does not have any competences, uh, to appoint judges.
06:15That's why, uh, the only right is on the side of the parliament and the government and the judges who
06:21were elected properly by the parliament.
06:23So, we are facing, uh, the enforcement of law, the restoring of the rule of law and independence of this
06:31most important, uh, constitutional court in Poland.
06:35And what is the concrete way out of this crisis now?
06:38And what would it take to secure some sort of cross-party recognition of the tribunal?
06:44Well, the consistency, uh, of all of the actions in, in, uh, next days in, in the future.
06:50Tomorrow, uh, there is an assembly, general assembly of all judges of the constitutional court, and they will decide upon
06:58the future of the constitutional court.
07:01This is the only competent body in the constitutional court, uh, to decide about the future and, uh, um, of
07:09the constitutional court, of the judges and of the suspended, uh, uh, president and vice president of the court.
07:15If Tusk and Navrotsky refuse to back down, who actually has the power to stop this crisis?
07:23Well, uh, this crisis, as I said, started back in 2015.
07:29And this year, uh, president Navrotsky, who is trying to block all of the restoration of the rule of law,
07:35all of the implementation of the rulings of the European courts, which is the most important because these rulings, uh,
07:44are drawing the, the, the roadmap how to get out of the crisis.
07:49But, uh, president Navrotsky needs and wants to keep the power of his political camp over the constitutional court.
07:58So, this is the, the fault of, uh, president Navrotsky and his camp, that they don't want to restore the
08:04rule of law.
08:05They want to keep the political power over the constitutional court.
08:09That was the politically manipulated, uh, theater of puppets for 10 years, and they want to keep it.
08:17Um, this is quite an extraordinary crisis.
08:20I can't remember, uh, anything like it in, in any other EU country.
08:24Are you worried that this story sort of harms the international, the European reputation of, of Poland?
08:32Our European friends, uh, deeply understand the situation in Poland because they are facing this situation for many years.
08:42And this situation, and also in other parts of the judiciary, was discussed, debated in the parliament, in other institutions
08:50of the European Union many times.
08:52So, I, I truly believe that they understand the situation and they understand that the government of Donald Tusk is
08:59trying to restore, rebuild, uh, the rule of law, uh, in Poland.
09:05And we will be fully consistent in that way.
09:08And I believe we will do that.
09:11You are right that this is unprecedented situation, not only in Poland, but in the whole Europe.
09:16Never happened before, but we are where we are.
09:20And we need to act on the battlefield where we are.
09:24All right.
09:25Michal Wawrekiewicz, member of the European People's Party in the European Parliament.
09:29Thank you very much.
09:30Now, I want to hear from the other side of the issue.
09:34And to do this, Polish Secretary of State and advisor to President Nawrowski, Marcin Pszedacz, joins us now.
09:40Good morning to you.
09:42Good morning.
09:43Very good morning.
09:44Hello, sir.
09:44So, the government says it is trying to restore the tribunal's independence after years of political interference.
09:51President Nawrowski says the government is trying to take control of the court.
09:55Which side is defending the constitution?
09:58Well, um, definitely restoring any kind of rule of law, uh, which, uh, the government claims, uh, should not be
10:06done by the 3,000 riot police entering the premises of the constitutional tribunal.
10:13And that is what happened, uh, in the evening of, uh, of, uh, Friday when, uh, people in Poland were,
10:20uh, heading towards their families, uh, out of Warsaw for the All Saints Day.
10:25It was a very quiet in, uh, in the capital of Poland, uh, uh, in the capital of Poland, uh,
10:30uh, evening.
10:30The president was on his way to Senegal.
10:32And suddenly we learned, uh, that, uh, Prime Minister Tusk, uh, sent 3,000 riot police troops, uh, in order
10:41to, as they say, clean the constitutional tribunal without any legal basis for that.
10:49Of course, there is a crisis, of course, there is a dispute over that, uh, but, uh, even the lawyers
10:57who are very close to the liberal government says that there is absolutely no legal basis for such a behavior
11:03of the, of the government.
11:05What's more, the president of the Supreme Court and the president of the National Administrative Court, so the two most
11:12important judges in Poland, they also said publicly that there is absolutely no legitimate basis for such a behavior of
11:20the government.
11:21So, that's why we are in such a crisis now in Poland.
11:24Sir, I mean, we all see, saw the scenes, uh, where President Nawarovsky entered the building, the tribunal building.
11:32Critics described the visit as a PR stunt to exert pressure on the court.
11:37Why did the president decide to intervene in person and what exactly was he trying to achieve?
11:44Well, uh, according to the Polish, uh, constitution, a president of the Republic of Poland is the, is the guard
11:50of the constitution.
11:51So, whenever he sees that the constitution is violated, he is obliged to, uh, react.
11:58But before going to the tribunal, uh, he went to his own palace, invited the president of the Supreme Court
12:05in order to learn his perspective, in order to learn an expertise on that.
12:10What's going on and how should he treat that?
12:13President is, uh, head of state, uh, with a very strong, strong, uh, uh, uh, uh, he's a legitimized leader,
12:21I mean, with a very strong mandate, uh, uh, more than 10, 10 million people voted directly for him.
12:26But he wanted to learn the perspective of the, of, of, of the, the legal perspective.
12:31After learning, uh, that's, uh, it's all illegal, he went there in order to first learn, uh, on the basis
12:39what's going on there.
12:39The second, to help the legitimate, uh, president and, uh, deputy president of the tribunal enter the, the, the building
12:47in order to restore the order.
12:50Unfortunately, he was blocked by the, uh, uh, political, those appointees of Prime Minister Tusk, uh, uh, the, the, who
12:58are claiming that there are judges.
12:59But as Prime Minister Tusk publicly said, these are his judges.
13:05So the, uh, Prime Minister Tusk says, these are my judges.
13:08We believe that there shouldn't be any my, his, or their judges.
13:13There should be legitimate legal judges, not, uh, Tusk's judges.
13:17Okay, sir.
13:18Are President Nowrowski and Prime Minister Tusk now effectively fighting a constitutional war?
13:24Well, as I said, there is a constitutional crisis, definitely.
13:29And the people, uh, of Poland, uh, gathered in front of the tribunal protesting against, uh, uh, that kind of
13:35situation.
13:36Mostly, uh, protesting, of course, against, uh, uh, entrance of, of, of police.
13:41They do, uh, they, there are evidence that there is a, um, a crisis.
13:45What President Nowrowski said and, and, and did after that, he invited all the political parties to the palace in
13:52order to talk.
13:53Because we believe that in democracy, it is the dialogue which may solve the, the crisis.
13:59The problem is that Prime Minister Tusk, uh, uh, was not, uh, um, uh, eager to, uh, to really talk.
14:07Uh, he just, uh, issued, uh, his statement, uh, uh, through the public television, uh, saying that he will not
14:14step back from that.
14:15Uh, and he will only keep, uh, the police, uh, um, there in the constitutional tribunal.
14:21So all the other parties are very much eager to talk and to consult.
14:25And then there is a one main message coming from all the parties.
14:29It cannot be like this.
14:30There is a need for any kind of restart of a situation.
14:34Um, so we do believe that based on that, we will build something, uh, something positive.
14:39All right.
14:39Polish Secretary of State and Presidential Advisor Marcin Przedasz.
14:43Thank you very much this morning.
14:46Almost 5,000 dead.
14:48More than 10,000 infected.
14:50The Ebola epidemic in the Democratic Republic of Congo is escalating.
14:54Yet the international response is struggling to keep pace.
14:58The Elders, a group of former world leaders founded by Nelson Mandela, are demanding urgent action.
15:05Earlier, I spoke to one of their most influential personalities, former Irish president Mary Robinson.
15:10And I started by asking her whether we're witnessing a global health emergency that the world is simply choosing to
15:17ignore.
15:18Here's what she said.
15:19It's really tragic what's happening because this is the fastest moving Ebola.
15:2410,000 cases and about 50% mortality, which means more than 5,000 people have died.
15:32But worse than that, they're not able to follow up on the contacts because of the situation in the Democratic
15:39Republic of Congo.
15:40Of course, I know it well from my time as mediator for the Great Lakes in Africa, for the UN.
15:45And there is an urgent need for resources to help with contacts, to help the health workers, the frontline health
15:53workers, and to help with humanitarian access, etc.
15:56It has now spread.
15:59There are some cases also in Kenya, in Uganda, in Nigeria, and France.
16:04So it is very dangerous because of the fact that they are not able to trace the contacts, much less
16:12than in the Ebola in 2014, for example.
16:15And this is very worrying.
16:17So the Elders are calling for more international action.
16:21What exactly are you demanding?
16:23Is it more money, more medical personnel, or a totally different international approach to this crisis?
16:30We're so worried that we actually wrote an open letter to the G20 because 3 billion euros was pledged, but
16:40only a billion is being released.
16:43And, of course, the G20 includes members of the EU.
16:47So we ask for the release of the funds that were pledged and are needed really urgently.
16:52And this should include specific funds to protect, pay, and support health workers and community leaders for village centres' responses
17:01to the frontline and funds for humanitarian early recovery needs.
17:06It also calls for guaranteed fair access to approved vaccines and treatment for priority groups.
17:12First, first, to counter mutation risks, because there is a mutation risk, apparently, particularly in the DRC, and address the
17:21security dimension of the crisis by pressurising armed groups in the DRC and neighbouring countries with influence to allow safe
17:29access for health and humanitarian workers.
17:32They're the main calls that we make in that open letter.
17:36It was really very worrying, as I said, to see how quickly this is spreading, how high the mortality rate
17:44is, and only a billion of the three billion pledged has actually been released to address it.
17:52So you've been a leading international voice for human rights and international global justice.
17:59This is kind of a tough question.
18:02Is the impression right that the international community treats African lives as less valuable than European and American lives?
18:11I'm afraid it is a tough question, but you have to feel that, you know, the lives of those who
18:18are invisible to us, they're poor, they live in remote areas that are under difficulty of militias and armed groups,
18:26and we don't care enough.
18:28We don't care enough.
18:29That's true.
18:30And are Western governments guilty of complacency here, or are they simply overwhelmed by the magnitude of the crisis and
18:39shrinking aid budgets?
18:42I think there are a number of factors that distract governments, but the point we're making is this is dangerous.
18:49If you have a highly communicable disease and you're not able to trace the contacts because you don't have the
18:56resources to do it, it will spread further.
18:59And this could be really serious, particularly for African countries, but then it will spread to Europe.
19:09Thank you very much.