00:00Episode four. I don't think I've ever seen Bernard as cold-blooded, but also as nurturing as his plot involving
00:08Judge Meadows.
00:10Do you two think that this is going to bring them closer together in their duties?
00:14All right. Well, let's just put it this way.
00:19You might not understand why, but it's the only thing I can do.
00:25Yeah. And I think, you know, right now where Sims in season two starts is he's still like, man, we
00:35got to do what we need to do to protect the people of the silo.
00:39And he's still figuring it out. And one of his biggest confidants and people that he responds to and also
00:50expresses to is his wife.
00:53So that's a new that's a new part of the audience's understanding of who Sims is because you get to
01:02see his wife.
01:02So that inevitably will have an effect upon at least the decisions he's making.
01:08And then also, you know, with him being aligned with Bernard for what they want to do for the silo,
01:14it makes it even more like it's more of a mix in there, like of ingredients now.
01:19And it's really good because that's real.
01:23Like, I mean, I've noticed in life, you know, when you do have a partner, you know, you share a
01:30lot of things with them and their perspective matters,
01:34even in some of the most intense and high, high intensity situations.
01:43But, you know, so that's where Sims is still his own self, but he's also partnered with his wife.
01:50So he has to deal with those things. And that's how he's dealing with everything.
01:54It's like that perspective.
01:55Part of Bernard's tragedy is that he is not allowed to have that romantic love because that would compromise the
02:05silo.
02:06I mean, that was one of the most three and four were just, they're just heartbreaking and brutal.
02:16And they are sort of the creation of Knox and Shirley as a team.
02:21What they go through at the end of three and then what they, they're sort of, their ideals are destroyed.
02:31Well, I should say their ideals are sort of set into motion.
02:34Knox thinks he's sort of won. We're going to go through the system.
02:37And then what happens with the, with the, when they go up top, that's the, that's when Knox is completely
02:43lost.
02:44When he sees what's happened and you see him snap and Shirley is the one holding him back.
02:50That's when, when the old Knox dies in that moment, you know, and then something new is born as they
02:58run down the stairs.
02:59He's had a flavor of the betrayal. So that's where the ferocity comes out.
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