00:00What I really want is for the movie
00:03to feel hopeful at the end.
00:05He was actually suggested to me.
00:08I listened to a bunch of his stuff.
00:09I was a big fan of the music that I listened to
00:14and specifically the sound.
00:16What I really loved was that in numerous songs of his,
00:21he has this very sort of hopeful,
00:24almost soaring-like quality to the choruses,
00:28the hooks of his songs.
00:30And so he and I spoke after he saw the movie
00:34and we talked about themes.
00:36And I basically just said, look,
00:38write about what you want
00:39and how you connect to any of these stories.
00:42But what I really want is for the movie
00:45to feel hopeful at the end.
00:48And so I wanted one of those soaring choruses.
00:52So really primarily I gave him a lot of creative freedom
00:54in what he was writing about.
00:56I just asked, and it's different
00:57with the way he performs it live
00:59and the way that it's released as a single,
01:02for the song to start with the chorus
01:04so that you're kind of left with that feeling
01:07that he does so well.