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CBS Sports lead college football analyst Charles Davis joins The Joe Rose Show to react to the College Football Playoff rankings, UCLA's undefeated run under Bob Chesney, and the proposed expansion to a 24-team CFP field. Charles also evaluates the upcoming 2026 NFL Draft quarterback class, why Arch Manning or Dante Moore could return to school, and why Ohio State wide receiver Jeremiah Smith is unquestionably the best overall prospect in the country.
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00:03all right joe it's time to head out to the toyota of hollywood hotline shop over 2000
00:07toyota's on set one location toyota of hollywood on 441 we're doing hollywood and sheridan toyota
00:11of hollywood.com all right woody thank you so much good friend charles davis lead analyst for
00:16college football on cbs joins us early this morning charles how you doing i'm doing well
00:23joe and yourself man i'm i'm great i've just enjoyed this college football season
00:28um especially two out of the last three weeks with all the upsets and crazy games and oregon
00:36goes to ohio state and puts a ton of points on them i mean it has just been uh a
00:42while when as
00:42we get set for the cfp rankings release tonight um what have you thought through the first week what
00:49were your your first thoughts when you saw it i think everybody you know gets too crazy too quick
00:57you know like you see it we should be higher how's that team there why are we here right you
01:04know
01:04it's the first one and i get it listen if you're a fan you want the best for your team
01:08at all times and
01:10part of being a fan is is also having the feeling that you're not getting what you deserve and someone
01:17is screwing you out of the rest of it that's just part of being a fan all right and it's
01:22also part of
01:23what universities have to do to feel like they have to protect themselves so a lot of protest a
01:27lot of this a lot of that which for the most part is wasted time and effort it's the first
01:32pull
01:33commissioner roy kramer god rest his soul sec commissioner kramer is a great mentor of mine
01:40and he had a great saying joe but all this was going on because you know he was the godfather
01:44of
01:46championship games gave us the sec championship game everyone followed suit
01:49helped create the bcs when we we everyone was screaming for a playoff all right led the charges
01:56for that but every year i talked to him and we'd have chaos and you know everyone's quoting 2007
02:01college season right now i remember how wild that was joe and he would always say jolly
02:08let it play out yeah yeah no let it play out we had nine times nine point nine times out
02:14of ten he
02:15was spot on it would play out and the right teams would get into the right places and we would
02:19go on
02:20from there so off we go um you know look you mentioned chaos five straight weeks now a an ap
02:28ranked top
02:29one number one or number two team in the country has gotten beat five straight weeks yeah no it's
02:35difficult man you're right hey i think the best story by far i know you've done at least one of
02:42their
02:42games ucla going being nine and oh and i know they haven't played indiana they didn't play ohio
02:47state but still like that win against minnesota on the road was a really good win what do you think
02:53of ucla and still being undefeated that's a good team and they deserve to be undefeated because they're
02:59doing all the right things to to be there this isn't one where you look up joe and every week
03:05they've
03:05survived by the skin of their teeth and they've got nothing but luck and boy how did that ball not
03:09go
03:10through the post i mean none of that like what they're doing and even if the wins aren't what
03:15people would want to call convincing at times meaning that they just ran over people they've
03:21been solid like that went up in oregon at the time that they won it oregon coming off of beating
03:26usc on the road best backup quarterback in the country was dylan riola and they reduced him to rubble
03:34and got it benched in that game and out gritted them and out toughed them and you know there's always
03:38that reputation with ucla i don't know if it's just the powder blue jerseys i don't know what it is
03:44but joe around the nfl there was always a lot of conversation about boy it's like a country club
03:49out there and right you know i don't know but i don't know about drafting the ucla lineman i don't
03:54know if i'm getting the grittiness and the toughness that i need i had one super bowl winning head coach
03:58who told me i will never draft another ucla offensive lineman ever ever ever i don't care who he is
04:03i'll never forget that that was years ago that is gone like it doesn't exist under bob chesney
04:10i mean they're running offensive lineman and now like hockey line changes their backup quarterback
04:15ty dieffenbach has come in for nico imali alaba and i said it week one and i stand by it
04:22they're
04:23better with him at quarterback than they are with their starter kid's a better thrower football he's more
04:28accurate with it he only had eight completions last week but you see what those completions were
04:33my goodness big big plays and that's what you need to go with a really good running game
04:39and the defense is so underrated it is really good they deserve to be where they are everyone would
04:45love to see them play a different schedule but don't forget they were a team coming off of a three
04:49and nine season no one was worried about their schedule when the season began that's right that's
04:53what we're talking about it all when the season began now people are gonna go oh you got an easy
04:58schedule did you pick them going to be a factor no i think they were picked like 14th and preseason
05:06so i don't want to hear anything about their schedule and what they're doing i think their
05:10season is remarkable hey i want to ask you about indiana indiana is a toll away from being undefeated
05:15again uh guy runs a great route to what a just unbelievable great call everything just didn't get
05:23the toe in and they have some overtime wins at the same time uh but they are welcome what what's
05:29your thoughts on indiana how good or is that as a team overall they're very good we know their defense
05:37is what leads them by far if it's not for their defense you know we're talking about a toe from
05:42being undefeated if the defense isn't playing at the level we might be talking about three losses
05:47yeah that's how good they've been on defense you mentioned back-to-back overtime games i mean
05:52michigan in baseball terms good field no hit all right because they michigan good on defense
06:01abysmal on offense and that game went to overtime you know first five games of season indiana's
06:07average of 45 points a game last four or five games whatever it is under 20 yeah wow they are
06:17really
06:17struggling on the offensive side of the ball quarterback dinged up he got pulled at halftime
06:22the backup came in and gave them what they needed they survived some questionable clock management
06:27against minnesota i mean joe we saw back-to-back 60 yard field goals in a 24 second span he
06:33did in
06:33college football and and we always joke about college kickers these two drilled 60 yard field goals
06:41it was the second one to put into overtime then indiana won it they're tough they're gritty they're
06:47well coached but if they don't get better on offense it's not going to end well for them
06:51hey uh 24 teams next year it looks like it's all set up yes man's got the big contract with
06:57them
06:58i i'm all for the playoffs i don't think we have 24 playoff teams every year but i know you
07:03want to
07:04reward teams and get them in there and allow them to make some extra money what was your take on
07:09the
07:09number 24 we don't have 24 any year not not not not in certain years they're not 24 teams any
07:18year
07:18in in my opinion 24 is way too big as far as i'm concerned i'm not a fan of 12
07:25okay so you can tell
07:27i'm kind of stone age right i am big on this college football season any college football season ending
07:33somewhere around january 1 when college football is the hottest i saw the release i understand the
07:40momentum to get to 24 because look money money does speak although they're all they're making the case
07:45that it's really not money here they think it's fan interest that at this stage of the year if you
07:51have 24 competing more fan bases are still interested in what the game's going on as opposed to
07:57feeling like your team is out of it and i understand that argument i absolutely do i know the big
08:0210 the
08:03big 12 the acc the sec coaches everybody you know coaches are really in favor of it you know i
08:10had
08:10a couple of them good friends of mine say hey man 24 is way better for us in job security
08:16and i said
08:17yeah i think you're right now can i throw a counter to you and they're like what i said 2014
08:23playoff and
08:24you don't get in how's your job security yeah no that's because yeah because if we're gonna open it up
08:31and you don't get in at 24 your athletic director your school president your head your your number
08:38one money money giver they're gonna have questions for you 24 and we're not in you know at 12 you
08:46can
08:46feel like you kind of get hey we were right on the verge at eight you really make the case
08:50at four
08:51most people are making the case but at 24 in a power conference you have a hard time convincing your
08:56people why you're not in and as i said that's all i'm telling you is hey you think it's if
09:03you're
09:03getting in at 24 that's great try not getting in and you call me and tell me how your job
09:09security is
09:09i think your job security is going to be really shaky at that point because people are going to
09:14want to know right why is our team not in and everyone else is in so i'm not crazy about
09:19it i also
09:20don't like the season ending as close to the end of january as it's going to end from here on
09:25out joe
09:25you're running right into the nfl you're in the teeth of the nfl playoffs you are near conference
09:30championship games your numbers are better i think closer to january 1 although look last year
09:38miami and indiana captured everyone's fancy it did 30 million that's a heck of a good number number
09:44my only counter the last year i did a playoff game in the nfl was two seasons ago
09:51chargers at houston in the houston invitational slot joe you know what that is right saturday
09:57afternoon 4 30 the first playoff game of the nfl season right yeah oh we did 30 we did 34
10:05million
10:06yeah out yeah yeah that's all i'm saying is look keep it while it's hot i know why they're doing
10:15it
10:15i get it and if we're lucky enough if things change television television wise you know i'll
10:21be standing up there cheesing like mad happy to do a playoff game i just think that overall
10:26i don't see 24 i'm not crazy about 12 but as they say nobody asked me yeah hey charles i
10:34want to ask
10:34you because you still do a lot of the draft stuff and have for a long long time and combine
10:39and all
10:40those different uh as we prepare guys and find out where they might be going in the draft and stuff
10:45what do you think is quarterback class i know dante more goes down the late not much of it
10:50don't think much of it i don't think much of it we're two years in a row joe we're preseason
10:56everybody touted them and i understood it and i still understand it you know it looks like there's
11:02a chance for it to be great i have not seen that play out so far this year i think
11:07that is going to
11:08look guys are going to go in the first round they always do but i think it's going to be
11:12very
11:12similar to last year where we have a lot of question marks about whether they go and we
11:17might have another surprise like ty simpson going in the first round to the rams if if the rams don't
11:23take ty simpson last year there i don't think anyone else takes him in the first round so i don't
11:28know
11:28that we have major consensus and the big question is going to be which kids actually decide to go back
11:34to school versus coming out arch manning will be in that position dante more at oregon definitely in
11:41that position um you know guys have extra years of eligibility they don't have to come out and a lot
11:48of case a number of cases i would advocate them staying just for playing purposes money other things
11:55may be factors but nil helps mitigate a lot of that stuff wow we'll just see how that part plays
12:02out
12:03but you know if i'm sitting here right now and arch manning's played well these last two three weeks
12:07but from what i've seen more snaps in college equals better success than the pros that really
12:14worked well for his uncles wouldn't surprise me at all if he's elected to stay in school one more
12:19year whether it's to texas or not who knows but he's just one guy dante more's got a big decision
12:23to make with the concussion at oregon does he come back for one more season is it at oregon you
12:28see
12:29where i'm going yeah i agree but i am not i'm not sitting here telling you i'm over the moon
12:34on
12:34this quarterback class i would take jeremiah smith from ohio state number one as the best player in
12:40the country if you're just saying who's the best kid you've seen i still think it's him as opposed
12:45to taking a quarterback i might have question marks on you know i i do i i swear it's like
12:50you've been
12:51listening to i i because he's from down here and we've seen him since here's a shaman on madonna and
12:56and he just he's unbelievable he is unbelievable i hope he finishes the year charles i hope he
13:02doesn't sit out the last three yeah i do will i think he will from what i've seen with this
13:07kid
13:08look joe we had them last week and they were getting hammered and at the end of the game by
13:12um
13:12by oregon right remember they were up 14 zip and then oregon ran off 38 unanswered points so it's late
13:18in the game this is the time put a ball cap on your star right this is done kid refused
13:23to do it kept
13:24putting his helmet on running back out there and playing he wasn't just out there to pad stats
13:28even though he got a big ball thrown to him and he got over 100 yards he was out there
13:32because
13:32he just competes and he's very upset that it looks like his national championship dream has blown up
13:38i joke and i i would be beyond shocked if this kid just shut it down on his own and
13:44said okay
13:44have a great year i think he'll be out there playing and competing which is another checkmark of
13:50why i would want him at number one that's just who the kid is from what i've seen and we'll
13:55we'll
13:55see how that one works out too but that this whole idea of him sitting and shutting it down i
14:00think he
14:01would be very upset with the whole idea yeah i agree i'm with you on everything you've said that
14:05it's great charles thank you so much man really appreciate you coming on this morning thank you
14:10hey joe you take care of yourself continued success my friend all right you too bud thank you
14:15charles davis cbs sports league college football analyst joining us