00:00Like your heart must be ripped out of your body.
00:04I don't know, because now like Maddie and Cara, I love them.
00:06I know that because I'm their father.
00:08Of course.
00:08But they're strangers to me.
00:11I haven't seen Maddie and Cara in like forever.
00:14Yeah.
00:14I wouldn't be able to pick them out in the street.
00:16I have pictures of them, but I still wouldn't be able to pick them out in the street.
00:19That's how much I haven't seen them.
00:21John and Kate Plus 8 star John Gosselin made this heartbreaking admission
00:25about his two eldest daughters, Madeline and Cara.
00:28On the latest Legally Goff podcast, he said he wouldn't recognize his estranged twins,
00:33who are now 26, if he passed them in public.
00:36It all goes back to 2009, John's messy divorce from Kate.
00:40She got primary physical custody of all eight kids.
00:43By 2018, however, he had obtained custody of Hannah and Colin.
00:47In his memoir, In the Shadow of Eight, Colin alleged extensive childhood abuse
00:52at the hands of his mother.
00:54His dad, John, is now comparing Kate to Mormon YouTuber Ruby Frank.
00:58She admitted to torturing and starving two of her six kids and is now serving hard time
01:03in Utah prison.
01:04Because there's no justification for Colin.
01:07He was abused and the abuser still walks free and that's awful.
01:12Ruby Frank did less than what Colin is saying in his book.
01:18And she went to jail.
01:20Just a few weeks ago, Colin, who is now 22, stopped by Page Six Studios to discuss his new
01:25bombshell book and his time on reality TV.
01:28But I do want to make a point and unfortunately, you know, you have to follow the money trail.
01:34But a lot of times the welfare of children in this industry is put on the back burner because
01:41there's so much money being made.
01:43So much.
01:43Hundreds of millions per quarter the network was making off of my family.
01:48I mean, who, the camera crew on production, my mother herself, who says no to that?
01:55Who tells the network, this is done.
01:57You're making hundreds of millions a year.
02:00Who says that, no, this needs to stop?
02:03Yeah.
02:04And that needs to be said.
02:06That really needs to be said because screw the paycheck.
02:10Yeah.
02:10You know, we're talking about children here and the development of children and what things
02:16are going to stick with them for into their into adulthood.
02:19So it's somebody's life here.
02:22Somebody's life.
02:23It's a child's life we're talking about versus a paycheck.
02:25But unfortunately, nobody stepped in.
02:29They saw they definitely saw.
02:31I mean, we watch episodes back and I'm like now knowing what we know, I'm like, wait, so
02:36like, right.
02:37But like and then and then you're right.
02:39You're right.
02:39Because viewers pointed out like, oh, we this is what we're seeing on camera.
02:42That's what made camera.
02:43Yeah.
02:44That's what made.
02:45Imagine how much is cut.
02:46That's what made it on to camera.
02:47Imagine how much.
02:49I mean, it was thousands times times worse.
02:53What didn't make the cut?
02:54That's crazy.
02:55And if you're if anybody thinks what they see on on the screen is bad, which it is bad.
03:00I mean, just imagine that to the highest level.
03:03And that's what didn't make the cut.
03:04And that's what adults were seeing.
03:06And that's what nobody chose to speak up about.
03:08Yeah.
03:08Yeah, it's like mind boggling the way.
03:12And I was just saying before, you know, I was like eight or nine when the show came out.
03:16It was like my first reality show.
03:17They were because it was like cute little family and like little kids.
03:20But even then, like my mom and I would talk about it.
03:23We were like, she's kind of crazy.
03:25Right.
03:25So when you came out with your story, it was like, I'm not like I could see that, you know,
03:31like it's not like out of the ordinary that because you watch these episodes back and you see these little
03:37moments.
03:37Like I was watching one the other day and she kind of like smacked your dad across the face and
03:42she's like, say it's fine and say it's fine.
03:44Right.
03:45And your poor dad's walking away like, oh, yeah.
03:47And like and all those like playful hits.
03:50Yeah.
03:50Although the playful jabs and the jokes and the hits and everything that my mom would make to my dad.
03:54I mean, it was it was like a ha ha little laugh after on camera, but off camera, there wasn't
04:00a laugh and it wasn't followed by a, you know, a playful reaction.
04:05Yeah, it wasn't.
04:05It was awkward.
04:06It was like it was it was essentially abuse.
04:10And she put my father down and it's I mean, everything that made camera was dumbed down and polished up
04:17to to look how, you know, it was supposed to look.
