00:01There are a lot of people who don't know.
00:04Like the return on investment or return of investment,
00:08she could have at least asked and made some research.
00:13It was a lot of people who did not know.
00:14The Attorney Susset Malucanag, Punay,
00:18on the impeachment trial of Vice President Sara Duterte.
00:22It was after the director of Punay,
00:25if the President Duterte did not know if the President Duterte
00:28ay kita mula sa kanyang umanong investment sa GenCorp
00:30o pagbabalik lamang ng perang una nitong inilagak sa kumpanya.
00:34Bangkit mo, cheque ang ibinayad para dun sa return of investment?
00:41Yes, Your Honor.
00:41So may cancel check yun.
00:43Nakita mo ba yung cancel check?
00:45No, I did not.
00:46No, you should have asked a copy of that cancel check
00:48kasi alam mo, magkitistig ko ngayon dito.
00:51You should have asked for the contract na ito ay return of investment,
00:55sige na, saan yung kontrata?
00:5615 years ka, abogado, mukhang hindi ka pa ready.
00:59Or, nagmamang-mangan lang po kayo.
01:01Tinanong ni Sen. Judge Irwin Pulfo si Punay
01:04kung bakit taon-taon mula 2022 hanggang 2025
01:07ay nakatanggap umano ng return of capital
01:09si Vice President Duterte na umabos sa 2.14 million pesos.
01:14As to bakit every year,
01:16I cannot answer po because I am not part of the accounting department.
01:20But for purposes of this proceedings,
01:25I requested for the data extraction from 2022 to 2025.
01:31Parang coincidence ano,
01:33na maging VP si VP Sarah,
01:36biglang lumobo ang sales ng GenCorp to 300 million.
01:42Pero noong 2021, nag-list na ito ng 28 million.
01:47Anong milagro o produkto po ang bininta nila?
01:49Na biglang lumobo sila.
01:51Na from 2022 hanggang 2024,
01:55umabot sa 1 billion ang sales nila.
01:57If you can recall, GenCorp has 5 branches.
02:01And the acquisition of these branches is gradual.
02:05Hindi siya one time.
02:06Sa pagtatanong naman ni Sen. Judge Francis Kiko Pangilinan,
02:10iginiit niya ng paging recipient na mga binipisyo mula sa kumpanya
02:13ay may tuturing na ring participasyon sa negosyo
02:16na kinumpirma naman ni Punay.
02:18You participated as a beneficiary.
02:21Are you saying therefore that it's not exactly accurate
02:25that she had no role whatsoever?
02:27When I, the way I understand the word participate in business,
02:32It's a beneficial, it's a, somebody who benefits from, uh, from monies.
02:38Isn't that being a participant?
02:40One who benefits from money is a recipient, yes.
02:43Exactly.
02:44So that, so it's incorrect.
02:46Let's be clear here.
02:47You said you were so categorical, you were so clear,
02:50na no participation whatsoever.
02:52And now it's turning out, meron pala.
02:55Tama.
02:56Meron.
02:56As a recipient.
02:57As a recipient, yes.
02:59Tinanong na Sen. Judge Panfilo Ping Lakson
03:02kung alin ang mas may bigat bilang ebidensya
03:04about opisyal na dokumento ng SEC
03:06o ang isang notarized admission against interest
03:09o pag-amin na maaari makapinsala
03:11sa interest ng taong gumawa nito.
03:13The SEC records, Your Honor.
03:16SEC records?
03:17Are you sure?
03:22For me, the SEC records, Your Honor.
03:26I will refer you to, uh,
03:28Section 27,
03:30Rule 130, Rules of Court.
03:34Are you familiar?
03:36I do not memorize the Rules of Court, Your Honor.
03:39Mas may probative weight
03:41or admissibility weight
03:43yung admission against interest.
03:46Correct.
03:47Meron nga akong kakilala
03:49sa TV lang nag-admit,
03:51nakulong eh.
03:52Admission against interest.
03:53Ito, notarized pa ito,
03:55itong sal-end.
03:56Batay sa October 2026,
03:58National Momentum Survey
03:59ng Momentum Research,
04:0154.7% ng mga respondent
04:03ang naniniwala na lubos
04:05at hindi katanggap-tanggap
04:06ang pagkakaroon umano
04:07ni Vice President Duterte
04:09ng mga ari-arian at kita
04:11na hindi idineklara
04:12sa kanyang sal-end.
04:13Lumabas din sa survey
04:14na 56.7%
04:16ng mga respondent
04:17ang naniniwalang lubos
04:18at hindi katanggap-tanggap
04:20ang hindi pagdedeklara
04:21ni Vice President Duterte
04:22ng cash o pera
04:23sa kabila ng umano'y pagkakaroon
04:25ng laman ng kanyang mga bank account.
04:27Isinagawang survey
04:28noong October 16-1926
04:30sa 1,401 adult Filipinos.
04:33Bernard Ferrer
04:35para sa bayan!
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