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Jeremy, Ed, and Beltway Ben discuss the Ravens offensive line play of late and if we're seeing any improvements.
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00:00You trade for Jacoby Brissett, and when you look at the O-line and the way that they've performed,
00:04I don't know that it gives you a lot of hope that all of a sudden it's going to be
00:07fixed.
00:08You make the trade with the Falcons, pick up center, whether or not he goes to the interior line,
00:13plays guard, whether or not he's a depth piece, I don't know how they're going to use him yet.
00:18But ultimately, I don't know how you can expect the offensive line just to get better
00:22with a veteran quarterback who, again, people do this all the time.
00:27They see black quarterback, and they're like, oh, he runs a lot.
00:29He'll take off and run every once in a while, but he's not a running quarterback.
00:34Or anything like Tyler Huntley is much more of a running quarterback than he is.
00:38No, it's not.
00:39I think Joe Finiano is more of a running quarterback than him.
00:41Yeah, seriously.
00:41But I do think the one exciting thing is when we talked about is the short yard is QB sneaks,
00:45and that'll help the offensive line because the Ravens have really struggled on short yards
00:48and Jacoby Brissett with his size is almost automatic.
00:51But listening to Jesse Minter yesterday, it sounded like there's a 0% chance Cam Juergens moves anywhere else.
00:58He's the guy at center.
00:59He cemented that at the end and was laughing like, yeah, no, he's our center for the future.
01:04He said Nuzal is depth and potentially if there's a fit at one of the guard spots.
01:09I would bet if there's an injury or if John Simpson's play, as bad as it's been,
01:13if it gets even worse, then he would maybe get a shot at left guard.
01:15Yeah, I mean, with the offensive line and the struggles they've had, you're right.
01:18Jacoby Brissett, back when he was with the Colts and Phillip Rivers was the quarterback,
01:21they would take Rivers off the field and bring Brissett into quarterback sneak on short yardage situations.
01:26They did it with Brady, too, in New England.
01:28Teams have done it.
01:29He just has a knack for it, and we all know Josh Allen had that knack,
01:32and we had the tush-push and all that stuff that was going on with some of these teams
01:37and how they could do it with great offensive lines,
01:39but there's certain quarterbacks that just find that little sliver and get there.
01:42They don't have to be big.
01:43Yeah.
01:43I mean, they just happen to be the ones you met, like Allen and Brissett,
01:46but I mean, some of them just have a knack for finding it.
01:48Yeah, Ben, I think you said that in my ear, but you talked about he would also get thrown out
01:51for Hail Mary.
01:51Yeah, he'd be sitting all game, and he'd get laid, and the quarterbacks are like Brady or Rivers
01:55and have the RFA.
01:56Get over there.
01:56Jacoby, get it loose.
01:57Oil that thing up, right?
01:59Oh, yeah, get out there.
02:00Come back from one throw.
02:01What did he say he got laid?
02:02Well, no.
02:04What did he say?
02:05He said, oil that thing up.
02:08It's laid out there, yeah.
02:10He's only been in Baltimore a few days.
02:11Got late, I guess.
02:13He's only been in Baltimore a few days.
02:14Yeah.
02:14Yeah, and you were shaking your head when we were going to commercial break about the
02:18offensive line, so I'm assuming that means you don't think they're going to get better.
02:22That's exactly what it means.
02:24Yes.
02:25By the way, he was shaking his head left to right.
02:27Yeah.
02:28Vigorously.
02:30What is it about this offensive line that's just been so frustrating?
02:33Like, it's, because you can point, I mean, you can point at everything.
02:37Everything.
02:37The interior, the tackles.
02:39The tackles, the terrible, I mean, it's just bad play.
02:42And, look, there's five of them.
02:44Bringing a depth piece is not helping the other five.
02:48Like, I just don't see it.
02:50Honestly, I do not see it.
02:51I think Ronnie Stanley, as great as he's been on this team, I think his time has come.
02:57Rosengarten, just, I don't know what to say.
03:01Do you think he's playing well?
03:02No, I thought he was playing great through, like, the first four or five weeks.
03:05Yeah.
03:06The past couple weeks, it's just been dreadful.
03:08Yeah, it's just, you know, the center play has not been, and we've gone through five of them.
03:13So, that's bizarre.
03:14Five centers.
03:15Five centers.
03:16Yeah.
03:16Exactly.
03:17I don't even have to fake it.
03:18I can just say it.
03:19Five centers.
03:20The center.
03:21We should have traded for the center for the Panthers.
03:25No, but, like, that's, I think the writing's been on the wall with Ronnie Stanley for a while now.
03:30But, like, it felt safe.
03:32You felt comfortable with left tackle.
03:34And, but, like, even last year, the rotation thing that was going on.
03:36Like, what was that?
03:38I know.
03:38And it's just, can we see if Ryan Jensen's, like, didn't gain 100 pounds?
03:44Can we bring him back?
03:45Like, he retired, didn't he?
03:46Yeah.
03:47He's done done.
03:47That's what I mean.
03:48Like, yeah.
03:48Well, you know, that's, yeah.
03:49Because we've had all these offensive linemen, including Matt Burke here, Alan Fanica for the Steelers.
03:54And you can go on and look at a bunch of them.
03:57They, they run marathons now.
03:59They went from 300 pounds to being.
04:00I saw Matt Burke.
04:01I did not recognize him.
04:02Yeah.
04:03I mean, sir, I ran into him personally after he had retired.
04:06I was like, oh.
04:08Excuse me, skinny.
04:09Yeah.
04:09I don't know if you've seen Wally Williams lately.
04:11Oh, yeah.
04:12Wally looks great.
04:13Wally is very, he trimmed down tremendously.
04:16I mean, they look good the way they were.
04:18They were big men.
04:19But then when they leave, they lose all the weight, I guess, for health reasons.
04:21Yeah.
04:22I just, it's strange to me that that's what these guys have to do to keep that weight on their
04:26body.
04:26Some guys' frames are just going to keep it the rest of their lives.
04:28Yeah.
04:29That's usually the D-tackles, by the way.
04:31I don't hear about a lot of D-tackles coming out of football and all of a sudden losing a
04:34ton of weight and running marathons like these guys.
04:36I don't know.
04:36You've seen Wilfork lately?
04:39Is he much thinner?
04:40No.
04:42He was an absolute plug, man.
04:44I want, is Nick Mangold, he retired 10 years ago.
04:47What do you think?
04:48No.
04:49No.
04:49All right.
04:49Did he pass or was it just his sister?
04:51His sister passed.
04:52Did she pass?
04:53Yeah.
04:53Really?
04:54Yeah, because I had this running bit about, you've checked her out.
04:58Look at this girl.
04:59Watch her squat.
05:00She was just a massive woman.
05:02Strong.
05:03Yeah.
05:03Very strong.
05:04And so I'd always joke about her and I getting together and making just, well, not beautiful
05:09children.
05:10She's 36.
05:11What are you talking about?
05:12Did she pass away or did Nick pass away?
05:15One of them died.
05:17Maybe I've got the wrong Mangolds.
05:19Somebody passed away.
05:20I thought she did.
05:21Maybe it's him.
05:22You're talking about the Mangolds, Nick and his sister.
05:26I'm pretty sure Nick passed away.
05:27He did?
05:27Oh my goodness.
05:28He's 41 years old.
05:29I couldn't remember which one it was.
05:31Last year.
05:32Yeah.
05:32Yeah.
05:32It's only a year ago.
05:33Oh my God.
05:34That's terrible.
05:34Yeah.
05:35So 41.
05:36Yeah.
05:37Oh, I love that guy.
05:38He was a, it's rough, man.
05:40One of my favorite jets.
05:41Let's grab a couple of callers here.
05:43Antonio's in Rosedale.
05:44Antonio, you're on the fan.
05:45What's up, buddy?
05:46Good morning.
05:47How are you guys doing?
05:48Good.
05:48All right, babe.
05:49You know what it is.
05:51Happy Friday, babe.
05:52That's it.
05:53Friday, babe.
05:54Yeah, babe.
05:57Can the Ravens bounce back and get a big Monday night victory?
06:03Have a wonderful day, guys.
06:04You too, man.
06:05Yes.
06:06I was going to ask you guys this.
06:07Ben, you may already know.
06:08What do you think the total is for Monday night?
06:1025.
06:12Seriously?
06:13I don't know.
06:14I'm going to go 37 and a half.
06:15I'm going to go on the 40.
06:16Same.
06:17Yeah, it's 38 and a half.
06:18Is it really?
06:18Yeah.
06:19Yeah, I was going to go around there.
06:20I was kind of shocked.
06:21I think 25 was being harsh.
06:22I thought it was going to be a little bit more, especially with the way that the Chargers
06:24just played and giving up five touchdowns to the Texans.
06:27Granted, we don't have CJ Stroud back there.
06:29No.
06:29But it was kind of crazy to see a total like that with a Ravens game.
06:33It feels like it's mid-2000s again.
06:35Who's playing quarterback for them now?
06:36For who?
06:37George.
06:37Herbert.
06:38He stinks, man.
06:39He's terrible this year.
06:40He's been just downright off.
06:42And he hurt his finger, but they said he's going to be all right to go.
06:44Yeah.
06:44I didn't even realize Malik Willis had gotten hurt for the Dolphins.
06:47Yeah, they slipped him on the IR quietly two days ago or yesterday.
06:50Yeah, I just found that out yesterday.
06:52Let's grab another caller here.
06:53Trippie's in Baltimore.
06:54Hello.
06:55What's up, Trippie?
06:56Hey, what's going on?
06:57Hey, before I get to my Ravens point real quick, look, right?
07:00The Lions play the Patriots in Germany Sunday morning, right?
07:04Yeah.
07:04Man, take St. Brown for 100 yards in it anytime touchdown.
07:08His mother's from Germany.
07:09You don't think that man going to go off?
07:11Yeah.
07:11It's going to be cool because you'll see him speak in German in the pregame interview.
07:15I wish I knew how I speak German because I cussed them Ravens out in German.
07:18Hello?
07:19Anyway.
07:20You could be saying good things in German and it'll sound like you're cussing them out.
07:23For real?
07:24That's just an aggressive language.
07:26But look, to the Ravens, though, right, like, I feel like they're going to win, but I do
07:35be watching 44 Podcasts because I just be like, listen to how crowned out he is.
07:39He's like, yeah, I guarantee we're going to win.
07:41We're going to lose, y'all.
07:43And when we lose, that's the reason why I be crashing out, right?
07:47Like, don't get me wrong.
07:48I don't want nobody in the Ravens organization to think, oh, he's a toxic fan.
07:52No, I'm not.
07:52I'm not a toxic fan because at the end of the day, I just like to talk and I feel
07:56like
07:56y'all should play better.
07:57Hello?
07:58Hello?
07:58You know what I mean?
07:58Just play better.
07:59But at the end of the day, that's why I was fussing at the Ravens play.
08:03I said, man, tell 44 stay his ass off that podcast because y'all they're embarrassing y'all.
08:07You heard what he said, right?
08:08I guarantee we're going to win.
08:10Yeah.
08:10If we lose to an 0-8, 0-8, whatever team they is, man, what's next?
08:15Like, bench his ass and Mark Andrews, man.
08:19I think I heard somebody say, I don't know if it was my man Josh from the Baltimore Sun
08:24yesterday.
08:24He was like, yeah, that's going to be Mark Andrews' best friend.
08:30We got two rookies over there.
08:32You need to be their best friend so we can get them.
08:33You know why they're saying that is, Trippy, appreciate the call, man, but Jacoby Brissett
08:38loves throwing to the tight end and they're pointing that out because who is he throwing
08:42to in Arizona?
08:42Arizona, the best tight end in football.
08:46Mark Andrews is going to get some targets.
08:48We'll just see if he catches them.
08:49Like, this fall off has been just unreal to watch.
08:53Yeah.
08:54I watched the highlight of Mark Andrews catching a pass across the middle and running it 50
08:58yards for a touchdown and I'm going, I don't remember the last time he's caught a pass and
09:02ran for any yards.
09:03It's funny you say that because, like, athletes fall off, running backs fall off in particular
09:07where it's noticeable.
09:09Quarterbacks too.
09:10We're running backs, when they fall off, they lose a step and then you're done.
09:14Their burst is gone.
09:15They just don't have it.
09:16And then it's evident.
09:17With receivers, you don't see them fall off by dropping passes.
09:21No.
09:21Usually it's the same thing.
09:22They get slower.
09:23They can't get separation.
09:24Yes.
09:24And then you'll see, even now, teams will move those guys into the slot where they can
09:28get open a little easier because they can still catch the ball.
09:30Even a guy like who can fight for 50-50 ball, you don't have to be fast.
09:33It doesn't matter if you're covered.
09:34But Andrews is just not catching footballs.