Feeling lost and overwhelmed? Mario Gila shares his inspiring journey of seeking help from a psychologist to navigate difficult times and rediscover his focus. This episode dives deep into the transformative power of shifting your perspective, turning negatives into stepping stones for growth.
Experience the profound peace of a semi-anechoic chamber, a unique environment designed for ultimate sound absorption. Discover what happens when the noise fades away, leaving you alone with your inner sensations and thoughts. Mario explores this incredible experience and how it amplifies emotional states.
As a professional athlete, Mario discusses the constant mental demands of his career and the importance of finding moments to reconnect with himself. Learn how he cultivates inner peace and combats the feeling of being disconnected from his true self amidst the pressures of his profession.
Control, perfection, and the constant need to manage every aspect of life are explored. Mario opens up about his past struggles with control and how he's learned to embrace imperfection, value individual essences, and understand that not everything needs to be under lock and key.
#MindfulnessJourney #InnerPeace #MentalWellness #SelfDiscovery
Experience the profound peace of a semi-anechoic chamber, a unique environment designed for ultimate sound absorption. Discover what happens when the noise fades away, leaving you alone with your inner sensations and thoughts. Mario explores this incredible experience and how it amplifies emotional states.
As a professional athlete, Mario discusses the constant mental demands of his career and the importance of finding moments to reconnect with himself. Learn how he cultivates inner peace and combats the feeling of being disconnected from his true self amidst the pressures of his profession.
Control, perfection, and the constant need to manage every aspect of life are explored. Mario opens up about his past struggles with control and how he's learned to embrace imperfection, value individual essences, and understand that not everything needs to be under lock and key.
#MindfulnessJourney #InnerPeace #MentalWellness #SelfDiscovery
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00:00I used the help of a psychologist because I was having a very negative moment
00:06and I didn't have the ability to go ahead.
00:08We asked to treat situations, which for me are heavy at the level of mental health,
00:14with only 21 years and you don't have a job experience, because at the end
00:17you get everything very quickly.
00:19So I came to a psychologist, and I gave my focus totally.
00:23All the negative that happened to me I saw as a step forward,
00:27and I realized that this is something that you need to improve,
00:31something that you had to do.
00:33Everything changed my focus.
00:35I was very severe, I was very severe, and now I am a person who is more calm.
00:42We can all fail, commit errors, pass through negative situations.
00:46So the way I treat myself, how I respond, how I speak,
00:49I think it's determinative for you to enter a continuous positivity.
00:57I feel very good here.
01:02This is a semi-anecoic room, an environment designed to absorb almost completely the sound.
01:11Here there are no echo, reflections and external noise,
01:15but the silence.
01:17Sitting in the center means to enter in a space
01:20where our brain loses its normal points of reference.
01:27We want to discover what happens when, for a minute, the noise appears,
01:34and we remain alone with our sensations.
01:44Mario, how do you feel at this moment?
01:47I feel a lot of peace, I feel very good here.
01:50I think these experiences are also very related to how the person feels,
01:56and in what moment is emotional.
01:59And I think it amplifies a little bit everything.
02:03I wanted to experience it a lot, 100%, the experience.
02:09When they were told me, I think that when you have external factors that contaminate a little bit,
02:15your mind is when you connect with yourself.
02:18That's why I closed my eyes.
02:19I wanted to feel as much as possible what I had inside,
02:25and how my mind works in these moments.
02:37It's a pleasure to talk to Mario Persona, not a athlete, but a human being.
02:43What have you tried from this experience?
02:46Well, I really liked it because I felt a lot of peace.
02:53I've been very calm and it has been a lot of experience that I've never felt.
02:58I'm a person who likes to meditate, to meet myself, to meet myself,
03:05a little bit of spirituality, I really like it.
03:08And I've felt a lot of peace.
03:10A lot of peace because, being in silence, so pure,
03:16and connecting with myself, it's a lot of experience that I don't know if I forget.
03:21It's true, I really like it.
03:22Speaking of yourself, are there moments in which you're alone,
03:26outside of the world that you're looking for, that you're waiting for something from you,
03:29where you get out of yourself and you want to know what you feel?
03:34Who are you in that moment, at an emotional level?
03:36It happens a few times because, whether or not,
03:41the footballer tends to be very active mentally.
03:45It's a profession that takes a lot of mental growth.
03:47But I try to, for example, in vacations or in moments that we are free,
03:56to find situations in which I feel like I'm not sure as in that camera,
04:03but I can connect with myself, I can find that Mario that sometimes
04:07is lost a bit by the profession in which I work.
04:10And in that moment I feel peace, I feel that connection with myself,
04:14I feel that I'm a person, because in our profession,
04:20whether or not, we get away from ourselves, you know?
04:22And that's a bit the goal I try when I'm alone with myself.
04:28You told me that in the profession that you're always very concentrated,
04:32I wanted to talk about the control,
04:33because I've heard you say that you have to have everything under control.
04:37Yes, I think that in my way of seeing a little bit the profession
04:44and the place where we find footballers,
04:47I think that, it seems like not, but you have to manage many situations.
04:52How do you behave outside of the field, at the end of 24 hours,
04:55the food, the preparation, the physical preparation,
04:58if not, the physical preparation, the training, the physical...
05:00And it's like, I have to control everything to perfection
05:03so that the weekend, or the weekend,
05:06it has to be 100%.
05:08So, it's a bit like that the profession
05:10takes you to have everything under control
05:12and if you're a person who likes it
05:15and who thinks it has to be like it,
05:17you exaggerate a bit more, you know?
05:18And in those situations, I think that, well,
05:22to have everything under control,
05:23it makes me feel comfortable.
05:24Only in the job?
05:25Or is this available everywhere,
05:27even with the family, with the friends,
05:29to have everything under control?
05:31I've also been like this with my family,
05:35with my friends, with my friends,
05:37but I understand my personal life
05:41in a different way now.
05:43Before, no.
05:44Because the perfection is very difficult.
05:49At the end, I have a lot of expectations,
05:52I have to go to the perfection,
05:54I think that at a certain point it's boring,
05:57I don't see the person 100% there,
05:59you know?
05:59That pure person.
06:01So, I've been like this for a long time in my life,
06:04I'm young, but I've been like this.
06:06Now, I understand a bit more
06:08the fact of understanding how each one is,
06:10understanding how each one is,
06:11understanding how each one is,
06:12and value it more,
06:13that essence, value it more.
06:15That essence.
06:16Before, you felt weak
06:17when you didn't have control,
06:18or fragile?
06:19Yes.
06:20But now, you understand
06:21that it's a value?
06:22Yes.
06:23Yes, yes.
06:24I understand that people
06:27and the moments
06:28are not always what we want
06:30nor what we expect.
06:31And I think it's a little
06:33related to the ego,
06:35but we're in there.
06:36It's also very deep.
06:38But I think
06:43I think
06:44that before was it,
06:45that before was it,
06:47now I'm less
06:48and I'm more than
06:49when the difficult moments
06:50are.
06:51Because there are
06:52also very positive things
06:53in those moments.
06:54I can't control everything,
06:55I can't pretend
06:56to be perfect
06:57because it's not
06:58that it's not a perfection.
06:59I don't think
07:00that it's nothing
07:02super positive.
07:03In the end, we grow a lot, or we strengthen in more negative moments than in positive moments.
07:09So I left a lot of that kind of perfection, you know?
07:13And that so deep expectation, I don't like it anymore.
07:17In other words, is there a positive aspect of perfectionism for you?
07:21You've become the player that you are thanks to perfectionism, according to you?
07:25Yes, yes. This is a fight that I have with myself, for example.
07:28In the profession, I consider that perfectionism, the ego,
07:34are parts that lead us to be or to triumph in the work, in the professional life.
07:41The ego leads us to be better than maybe the contrincant you are playing.
07:46The perfectionism makes you better work, better care, better care,
07:49and that makes you grow a lot in the profession.
07:53But you have to be balanced, you know?
07:56You know, it can't be all perfectionism because it leads you to have a very heavy requirement
08:01that when you have negative moments, you don't know how to confront them, you know?
08:06So, the lightness that you put in the topic that we were talking about,
08:10when you make a mistake, are you very demanding and severe with yourself?
08:14Or how do you behave with yourself when something is not going like you wanted?
08:17Before, for example, I had a big change.
08:22I had a very negative moment at the beginning of my career here in Italy.
08:26I touched a foundation, but through psychological help,
08:32I managed to carry out all these things.
08:34That's why I tell you before.
08:36Before, I was very hard with myself.
08:38I didn't allow myself to fail.
08:40If I was very negative with myself, I didn't accept that I could fail or make mistakes.
08:46Now I take it much better.
08:48Now I feel that the failure is part of the profession,
08:53it's something that helps you improve, it helps you grow.
08:55So, I take it with much more harmony.
08:58I channel it much better within myself.
09:00I think it has to be a part of the challenge
09:03and you also have to know how to find the solution to that mistake,
09:07whether it's professional or in your personal life,
09:10but with much more calm and more tactful towards me.
09:14This interview also serves to leave value to others, right?
09:18In those moments, what do you tell you in concreto to treat yourself better?
09:24Well...
09:25What a good question.
09:26In these moments where I've suffered negative situations,
09:30post the moment I was telling you,
09:32I'm aware of that everyone can fail.
09:36I'm aware of that the error is part of the job
09:39and it's what will make me grow.
09:42So, I change the focus.
09:44Before I saw it in a very negative way.
09:46Now, from the negative side, I take the positive.
09:50So, I understand that if I put the focus in a positive situation
09:55or from a positive point of view,
09:59it changes everything around the error.
10:01You know?
10:02All the noise
10:03and it turns out to be a calm zone.
10:06It's normal that you commit a mistake
10:08and you are exigent with yourself.
10:10You don't want to come back to that error,
10:12but it may happen to happen.
10:14So, in that moment,
10:16I think to be aware of yourself
10:17and to be aware of something that can happen
10:21and that you can use it as a better way,
10:24I think it's a bit of a path
10:25to not enter into a negative, you know?
10:28You know?
10:29To maintain that positive and that balance
10:30that makes you feel, maybe, in peace.
10:32Like I said there,
10:33in the experience that I've lived before.
10:35Respect to the bad moment that you've passed,
10:38that you've been training,
10:39you've taught you a lot of things,
10:40you've talked about therapy,
10:41you tell me not so much the fact,
10:44but what experience have you had with therapy?
10:47What did you give at the beginning?
10:49Because you understood that it was important for you
10:51to have a figure with whom to confront yourself,
10:54and that you could even give you reading
10:56and save me,
10:57you know?
10:58I used it as a psychologist
11:02because I had a very negative moment
11:04and I didn't have the ability to go ahead
11:07only because, in the end,
11:08we're very young,
11:09we're footballers,
11:10and we ask ourselves to treat situations…
11:13How many years have you been?
11:1421.
11:15Okay.
11:16We ask ourselves to treat situations…
11:17for me,
11:19they are heavy at the level of mental,
11:21with only 21 years
11:22that you don't have a job experience,
11:24because at the end,
11:25you get everything very fast.
11:26So, I came to a psychologist
11:27and, as I mentioned in the previous question,
11:30I changed my focus totally,
11:32you know?
11:33All the negative that happened to me,
11:35I saw it as a step forward,
11:38in the…
11:39this is something that you need to improve,
11:41it's something that you had to do,
11:43it's something that you had to do,
11:45I see my focus,
11:45I see everything in a way,
11:47I do a lot more positive,
11:48I do a lot more love.
11:49It was very heavy at all.
11:51It was very heavy,
11:52I'm very heavy at all,
11:53and now I'm a person that is more tranquility,
11:56you know?
11:57You know…
11:58we can't fail,
11:59we can't fail,
11:59we can't be exposed,
12:00we can't be negative,
12:01but it's more in the levanting
12:03than in the exiging,
12:05and in the machacating,
12:06and in the…
12:07why not,
12:08why not,
12:09why not,
12:10how I treat,
12:11how I respond,
12:12how I speak,
12:13is determined
12:16to enter in a continuous positivity.
12:33Depends.
12:34Because if I talk about myself,
12:38I live the pressure as an help to give me this push.
12:43I think the footballer feels a bit of pressure
12:48or a bit of nervousness.
12:50In the previous game,
12:52depends on the game,
12:54there are more or less important games,
12:56but you feel that pressure.
12:57I think it's positive because it's a preparation,
13:01but I haven't had situations
13:04where the pressure has blocked me,
13:07because I've suffered it in the past.
13:09I've felt that pressure
13:11and that pressure that you block is very negative,
13:13because it's very different from the pressure
13:15that you feel when you're in a mental stability,
13:17which is preparative.
13:18It's a pressure,
13:20the old pressure is a pressure that you block,
13:22it's a pressure that accelerates the heart,
13:24that you're afraid.
13:25So, there are different pressures.
13:27I've seen both.
13:29The first one is difficult to carry,
13:31because it's nervous,
13:33it's the expectation of doing well,
13:35it's the feeling that you're seeing a lot of people,
13:39you have to do well,
13:40you have to do well,
13:40you have to do well,
13:41and that's what I think.
13:43The second one,
13:44is a pressure preparative
13:46that you feel a little nervous,
13:49you feel a little nervous,
13:50you feel a little nervous,
13:52but if you're able to channel it well,
13:53it's a feel preparative,
13:56because you have a very important situation
13:58that you have to do well.
13:59So, it's very different
14:02and I think now I'm a lot better.
14:04Sentiandoi parlare,
14:05vedendoti giocare,
14:06ti vedo molto solido.
14:08Quella fiducia
14:08che hai in te stesso,
14:10l hai sempre avuta,
14:11da dove nasce?
14:12Yo soy una persona
14:13que me ha aparentado mucho
14:14que tenía mucha confianza en sí misma.
14:18O sea, yo he considerado
14:19que tenía mucha confianza en mí mismo,
14:20pero realmente en los momentos negativos
14:22no la tenía,
14:23porque pasaba un momento negativo
14:25y dudaba mucho de mí.
14:26Yo creo que eso se hace
14:27a través de un recorrido de psicología,
14:33también el sentirte seguro en el trabajo,
14:36son cosas que van de la mano,
14:38o sea, no es ahora todo psicólogo
14:39y la profesión no, no.
14:41O sea, todo ha ido un poco de la mano.
14:43En el momento que yo he empezado
14:44a tener estos procesos,
14:45también me ha ido muy bien
14:47y me ha acompañado en el fútbol,
14:48entonces he conseguido una seguridad
14:49en ambos aspectos
14:51que me llevan ahora a ser una persona
14:53que considero que sí que tengo
14:55mucha confianza en mí mismo,
14:56pero porque realmente la siento,
14:58¿sabes?
14:58Es algo que he estudiado mucho,
15:00el hecho de que no confiar en ti
15:03por lo que digan los demás
15:04o el valor que tienen los demás,
15:05sino por el que te des tú a ti mismo.
15:07Entonces ahí es donde he encontrado yo
15:10mi estabilidad y mi paz y mi confianza
15:14en ese entorno.
15:16¿Has jugado con jugadores muy fuertes?
15:18¿Cómo has hecho,
15:19o sea, ¿hay utilizado el confronto
15:21con el loro talento
15:23para crecer y no vivirlo como un invidio,
15:26un modo positivo para mejorar ti mismo?
15:28Sí.
15:28Es que esto va mucho de la mano de la confianza,
15:31¿sabes?
15:32Cuando uno confía en sí mismo
15:33y tiene esa confianza,
15:35comprende a valorar lo que recibe de los demás.
15:38Si tú tal vez eres una persona
15:39que no confía tanto en ti,
15:41tal vez te reflejas en la envidia con los demás.
15:44Entonces no comprendes esa enseñanza
15:46que te está dando la otra persona
15:48que solo con verla te enseña.
15:50Entonces, lo he comprendido
15:53cuando he comenzado a llegar a un estado de bienestar
16:00más centrado en el ahora.
16:02Antes, como tenía menos confianza en mí mismo,
16:04me confrontaba más con los demás.
16:06Tal vez no me parecía bien lo que hacía el otro
16:10o tal vez no veía del todo bien
16:13lo que me pretendía enseñar el otro.
16:16En el momento que tú consigues centralizar un poco esa confianza
16:19y tener esa confianza en ti mismo,
16:21lo que te enseña el otro lo ves con positividad, ¿sabes?
16:24Y lo ves como una forma de crecimiento
16:26y lo ves de otro foco.
16:29Entonces, no solo lo que te está enseñando directamente,
16:31tal vez he aprendido de muchos jugadores
16:33solo viendo, solo fijándome,
16:36pero tal vez de las cosas negativas también, ¿sabes?
16:39O sea, no de las cosas positivas.
16:40Comprendo que la enseñanza no está solo en el
16:43oye, pues tienes que hacer esto y me parece que lo tendrías que hacer así.
16:47No, también en cómo actúan, por ejemplo,
16:49ahora tenemos el ejemplo de Luka Modric en el equipo
16:51y me fijo mucho en él, en cómo actúa,
16:53en la humildad que tiene, en cómo gestiona situaciones
16:59y eso lo comprendes cuando tú estás bien contigo mismo.
17:03Si tú no estás bien contigo mismo, considero que eso no lo vas a comprender.
17:07O sea, no vas a mirar al otro como un reflejo positivo,
17:10vas a ver como un reflejo negativo.
17:11¿Y cuando vivas un buen momento?
17:13¿Lo puedes reconocerlo, ser fiel de ti,
17:16disfrutarte aquel momento de felicidad,
17:18disfrutarte?
17:19Eso es algo que me cuesta, por ejemplo.
17:21Es algo que me cuesta porque soy consciente,
17:26pero es algo que considero que cuesta en general a las personas
17:30porque nos damos más cuenta de las cosas negativas
17:33o le damos más importancia a los momentos negativos
17:35que cuando estás en los positivos, ¿sabes?
17:37Y eso creo que es un fallo que tenemos todo el mundo, no sé por qué,
17:41pero intento trabajarlo, soy consciente de ello,
17:44pero te tengo que decir que si ponemos en un baremo,
17:47si disfruto igual los momentos negativos de cómo sufro los negativos, no.
17:51No, sufro más los negativos que disfrutar los positivos
17:54y eso es algo que por desgracia no he aprendido aún a sobrellevar
17:59o a disfrutarme realmente el momento positivo
18:02porque también estamos para disfrutar los momentos positivos
18:04si estamos para vivirlos, pero me cuesta más que tal vez
18:08cuando tengo un momento negativo.
18:09Me gusta mucho el modo en que te has evolucionado a nivel de maturidad,
18:14las cosas que has entendido,
18:15entonces te hago una última pregunta que es un bilancio.
18:17La pregunta es simple, es cómo estás,
18:19pero cómo estás no es hoy,
18:20pero si miras tu vida, ¿qué periodo de tu vida es este?
18:24¿Cómo está Mario en este periodo de la vida?
18:27En este periodo de la vida Mario está muy feliz.
18:30O sea, toda esta conversación que hemos tenido
18:32también va mucho de la positividad en la que estoy ahora sumido, ¿sabes?
18:36O sea, si yo estuviese en un momento negativo
18:37tal vez muchas cosas no las comprendería como ahora, ¿sabes?
18:40Pero estoy en un momento muy positivo
18:42porque estoy en el lugar que quiero estar,
18:44estoy en un lugar donde me quieren,
18:48he sido papá hace un año,
18:50tengo una mujer que también me quiere mucho,
18:51entonces son como que muchas cosas van de la mano
18:55y la profesión me va bien, la familia me va bien,
18:58tengo amigos que considero que son de mucho valor,
19:02tengo una familia también que tiene mucho valor,
19:04entonces es como que todo va muy bien ahora.
19:07Entonces estoy muy equilibrado, estoy muy en paz,
19:09estoy como en el lugar que quiero estar,
19:12me valoran mucho,
19:12entonces ahora mismo estoy en un momento muy feliz de mi vida,
19:15muy feliz.
19:16Entonces tengo la capacidad de que si suceden cosas negativas
19:19tengo un soporte ahí, ¿sabes?
19:22Tengo un soporte que te hace estar bien
19:23y considero que eso es muy importante porque momentos negativos
19:26vas a tener yo creo siempre en la vida,
19:29entonces no hay forma de parar en momentos negativos,
19:32no puedes, no se puede y la vida perdería sentido.
19:35Pero tener ese colchón y ese soporte
19:39yo creo que te da también la posibilidad de estar muy bien
19:41en todos los otros aspectos.
19:43Entonces estoy muy feliz,
19:45ahora mismo me siento muy feliz,
19:46muy en paz, muy equilibrado,
19:48muy contento conmigo mismo también
19:50y la verdad que muy contento de esta conversación
19:54porque me gusta mucho todo estos aspectos psicológicos.
19:58Gracias de cuore, Mario.
20:00Vamos a todos.
20:01Un abrazo.