00:00Yes I know and I had no intention of coming out.
00:02I believe in spirits, I believe in portals and I lived in a haunted house near Cluckley.
00:10So I lived there 30 odd years.
00:15So we dealt with things day in day out, so I do believe in that type of thing.
00:20Yes and no, so I'm quite mixed about it to be honest.
00:24I've got good reason to believe it might not be what other people think it is
00:27because my young lady's son passed his driving test first time this morning, Friday the 13th.
00:33Telling the bees and cattle of a death.
00:35In East Kent and areas like Dartford, families would traditionally tell the bees and their cows
00:40that a death had happened first out of worry that if they told other people first
00:43the bees would leave the hive and the cattle would sicken and pass away.
00:48How are you going about telling bees something?
00:51Because I know I wouldn't want to get particularly close to them.
00:53I'm assuming you just whisper to the hive.
00:56Whisper to the hive.
00:57I'm supposing you sort of whisper in.
00:58So that's one.
00:59The Leeds Castle black dog.
01:01So reportedly there were sightings of a phantom black hound at Leeds Castle
01:04that carry a superstition of impending death or witchcraft.
01:08But some view it as a protective guardian.
01:10And lastly, the Whitstable moon shell.
01:13An old superstition for fishermen.
01:14If they found a perfectly white seashell on the beach after sunset, it means the moon has chosen your household
01:20for a visit.
01:21If you choose to bring the shell indoors, then it'll be a visitor that you want to welcome.
01:26You haven't maybe seen them in a while.
01:27If you don't bring it, if you just leave it, then what will happen is that you'll get a visit
01:32from someone you maybe don't like or don't want to see.
01:33So telling the bees of a death about a black dog around the grounds of Leeds Castle or the Whitstable
01:40moon shell, which do you think is fake?
01:43I mean, I might embarrass myself here, but I feel like I've heard the black dog one before.
01:47I feel like that's true.
01:50The Whitstable moon shell, purely because of how many details were involved in it.
01:55And I think you kept looking at your notes, which suggests to me that it's not something that you've made
01:59up.
01:59So I think that's true.
02:00So I think the lie is talking to the bees.
02:04Not quite.
02:05No?
02:06I thought you were going to absolutely read me there.
02:08Oh, okay.
02:08It was the Whitstable moon shell.
02:10Oh, okay.
02:10The reason I'm reading so many details is because it's made up.
02:12So you made it complicated for yourself?
02:14Yes.
02:14Okay.
02:15So that is completely false.
02:17No such superstition exists.
02:18But in East Kent and areas like Dartford, people really, it's generally believed.
02:23Some people did believe in that superstition.
02:25And similarly, Leeds Castle, some people claim that it was a black dog.
02:28I'm sure there's people out there who walk their black dog normally around Leeds Castle.
02:31That's probably just a black lab or something.
02:34So you're 0 and 1.
02:35But I really thought you had me on the ropes there.
02:37Well, what's one superstition you believe in?
02:39I tend to, I don't really walk under ladders, but I don't know if that's a superstition
02:43or just a general thing.
02:44I don't want to get head injuries.
02:46I'm not really a very superstitious person.
02:47Would you say you have any general superstition?
02:49No, not really.
02:50We were talking about this earlier within the newsroom.
02:52I feel like, I mean, one superstition is not opening an umbrella indoors.
02:56Everybody knows that one, but I don't have any particular ones.
02:59But no, I'd like, if anyone at home has got any superstitions, then they're free to share
03:03it.
03:03So thank you so much, Finn, for your very educational lesson there.
03:06So thank you so much, Finn, for your very educational lesson there.
