00:00Ricky Waters is good to go and ready for us here on the River Islands guest line on Willard and
00:05Dibs, 95-7 the game.
00:06What a thrill to have a Niner great on.
00:09He's in Dallas as this game gets ready to go.
00:12Ricky, how you doing, man?
00:13Thanks for coming on.
00:15Man, I'm doing great.
00:16How are you guys doing?
00:17We're so good, dude.
00:18It's great to hear your voice.
00:20What are you up to?
00:21How you been?
00:22Oh, I've been great.
00:23I'm sitting there with my boy, Rocket Ishmael, you know, hanging with him.
00:28And later on, I'm going to be with Brent Jones.
00:31So, loving it out here.
00:33It's a pretty strong name drop to open the segment right there.
00:38Let's go, man.
00:39Let's go, Ricky.
00:40I was wondering about you being back there because Mark and I were just talking about your rookie year.
00:45It's a loss.
00:46And your next year, it's a loss in the conference championship.
00:48Do you still get kind of like the hair up on the back of your neck just being in Dallas,
00:53having those memories?
00:54Definitely.
00:55And can't wait to see them get their butt kicked.
00:58All right.
00:59Every time.
01:00Every time I'm like, you know, that's just one of the teams I don't want to do it.
01:04I'm sorry, Rock.
01:08So, wait.
01:08Are you guys out there doing something special together or is it just because of the game?
01:13What's going on, Ricky?
01:14I came out to speak to some young people at the Dallas College.
01:22So, it was really, really great.
01:24It was a resilience, leadership and resilience.
01:30Resiliency was a topic.
01:31So, it was really nice and had a great time.
01:34And then, of course, going to hang out with my guys and watch the game.
01:39Love that.
01:40Love that.
01:40And, you know, it's funny.
01:42And Dibs was just kind of, I think, referencing this.
01:45We've been talking to fans who maybe are like 35 or 30 or even 25.
01:50And they're just not really feeling like the rivalry is even there.
01:56They don't even necessarily understand it.
01:58So, Ricky, if we were to ask you to explain the Cowboy 49er rivalry to someone who's younger, how would
02:06you do it?
02:07Man, I would say it's one of the most important ones.
02:10I mean, you're looking at two of the greatest franchises, first of all.
02:15And in the 90s, I just know when we played them, man, it was just crazy because whichever team won
02:22pretty much was going to be in the Super Bowl.
02:25So, I mean, that's because Dallas is not doing too well nowadays.
02:30So, I think that's why the rivalry isn't there.
02:34But I know they got a lot of pride.
02:36I know they're going to play hard this week.
02:38But I think they're going to take a L.
02:40I just think the 49ers are too strong from their offense.
02:44It's just too good.
02:46They're going to give them fits.
02:47And their defense is going to shut down their run.
02:49So, if they don't have balance, they can't do anything.
02:53I love the way you're breaking that down.
02:55And I wonder if you look back to that third year in your career where you guys beat them in
03:00the conference championship, you win the Super Bowl.
03:02Do you feel like you kind of were like Rocky and Rocky II?
03:06Like you broke them?
03:08Yeah, we broke them.
03:10We had them in that first one, too, man.
03:12I thought that was kind of messed up.
03:14They called Jerry's bomb back.
03:17So, you know, I'm still a little sore about that one, the first one.
03:21But the second one, they got us pretty good.
03:23But that third one, I don't think anybody was beating us that year.
03:27I'm telling you, that team that we had that year, I think we could have played with any team in
03:31any era.
03:32No doubt.
03:33Ricky Waters is joining us here on Weatherton Dibbs 95.7 The Game.
03:36Ricky, how closely are you following the 49ers this year?
03:43Whenever I can, I'm definitely following them.
03:46They look great.
03:48You know, I went to, you know, Australia with them.
03:51So that was awesome to go there and to see them in action, to see the coaches, how they were
03:57handling things,
03:58and just to kind of be around and hang with the players.
04:02And I knew they were going to have a super year this year.
04:05You could just see it.
04:06You could just see the way they were gelled together.
04:10They were just having fun, the way they hung out and everything,
04:14and how serious they were when it came down to business.
04:18They were ready for that game.
04:20I don't know what the Rams were thinking coming in, how they did, like, halfway the week or something like
04:26that.
04:27But you could just tell that they were ready.
04:29And being out there at that game and seeing them play, seeing them practice and all that,
04:34it made me see that they were ready.
04:36They were going to have a great year this year, and I think that they are.
04:40Well, Ricky, especially with your position, we would love your assessment of the young running back
04:46who's now split in time with Christian McCaffrey.
04:49What do you think of Kalon Black?
04:51Yeah, I really like him.
04:52I really think he's explosive.
04:55He's a missile.
04:55I'm telling you, he's quick.
04:57And I'm sure he's learning from McCaffrey, too.
05:02So, running them routes and all that, I think he could be explosive in that way, too.
05:09So, I really like him.
05:10I just think that, of course, you know, if I'm going to critique him,
05:14just to slow down a little bit as he's getting the ball and let things develop a little bit more.
05:20But he's going to learn that.
05:21And I think that he's going to be a fantastic addition to the team.
05:26You played with one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, Steve Young.
05:29What do you make of Brock Purdy?
05:31Not to put him in that same category, but what are your impressions of young Brock?
05:35Hey, I knew he was ready, too.
05:37He looked locked in.
05:38Man, he was focused.
05:40Like I said, when we were in Australia, he was focused.
05:42He was throwing dimes.
05:44And he's doing his thing.
05:46You know, when he's healthy, he is one of the best quarterbacks out there, I think, right now.
05:51And he's showing that.
05:52He's MVP-like.
05:54He's got to be an MVP candidate right now.
05:56And I think that he's going to continue to play that way.
06:00And the 49ers are going to be a force this year.
06:03Ricky, yeah, I know that Mike Shanahan was on the staff with the teams that you were on.
06:09Did you ever run into a young Kyle Shanahan back in those days?
06:16Yeah, a little bit.
06:17But to see him now as a head coach doing what he's doing, man, he obviously understands and has learned
06:27from his father pretty well, number one.
06:30But he understands the game.
06:31You can tell the way he calls the game and everything.
06:35I just think he's great.
06:36And he's great with the team.
06:38You can just tell they love him.
06:40They love being around him, the way he handles them.
06:42I just think it's great.
06:44So, George Kittle, a few years back, rocked the F Dallas shirt, which, of course, came from Gary Plummer before.
06:51Do you have one of those shirts?
06:53And do you have those same feelings about Dallas?
06:56I have those feelings, but I don't have the shirt.
06:59And I want one.
07:00Well, I wonder if you wouldn't have had one in Philly because you went from here to Philadelphia.
07:05And Philadelphia's got to hate Dallas as much as us, right?
07:07Oh, my God.
07:08I could not believe it.
07:09And the craziest thing is, when I was young, the Cowboys was my team.
07:13So, who would have ever thought that I would hate them so much like I do because they became such
07:19a nemesis for me.
07:21And the F was for fan when you were younger, and then the F turned into a different F when
07:25you became a player.
07:27Exactly.
07:28That is so funny.
07:30All right, Ricky.
07:32So, you think it's easy street for the Niners on Sunday, huh?
07:36I think so.
07:38I think they're going to pull away from those guys.
07:41I think they're going to play hard.
07:42Like I said, Dallas, they got pride and everything.
07:45And they need this game.
07:47That's for sure.
07:48So, I know they're going to play hard, but I just don't think they have what it takes to take
07:52down this team.
07:53Not this 49er team and not the way their defense is playing, the way Raheem Morris got them going.
07:59And, yeah, I just think it's probably going to be like 31 to 10, something like that.
08:06They might get 14, that's about it.
08:08We'll take it.
08:09We'll take it.
08:10Hey, Ricky, go have a good time with your friends and your family.
08:14What a thrill to have you on.
08:16Thank you so much.
08:17Oh, it's great to be on.
08:20Appreciate it.
08:20Ricky Waters.
08:21Ricky Waters, man.
08:23Ricky Waters.