00:00Secretary Duffy, what you're describing, routers overloaded with data, that then start to show instability.
00:08That sounds like something that could be caused by a cyber attack.
00:13Can you say with 100% certainty that this was not caused by a cyber attack or a rogue AI?
00:19I'm going to give this to Mark Wayne.
00:22All right, we are, there's nothing completely certain right now.
00:26It doesn't appear that way.
00:28We are, we've activated our teams.
00:31This is what Department of Homeland Security is all about.
00:33This is why we're stood up to have the continuity of government to bring all the resources together in an
00:39emergency like this.
00:40This is exactly what this is.
00:42This is a national emergency.
00:43We have all of our assets, be it from DOW to CISA to all of our NOx, then all the
00:51other components we have inside of DHS.
00:54NSA is working with us.
00:55There is nothing that indicates it yet.
00:58Now, when we start looking at cyber threats, cyber attacks, typically some people are going to raise their hand up
01:04and say, hey, we did that.
01:06There's no chatter.
01:07We haven't seen any footprints, as you would say, or identifications of people that got into the system.
01:17It appears that this was mechanically driven.
01:21However, we're still looking.
01:23So we're not going to rule that out.
01:24What it appears to be right now is, as Secretary Duffy and FAA was going in and putting patches into
01:30the system, they were putting new equipment and new technology.
01:38And that new equipment, new technology, just wasn't, it was overwhelming the older system, which is why Secretary Duffy made
01:46it very clear, the patchwork doesn't work.
01:49We need one complete system.
01:52We need someone to come in and build the whole system.
01:54Doing it nickel and diamond together does not work.
01:57This is what happens when that takes place.
01:59That's why the President has made it very clear, we can't do this.
02:03It has to be a complete overhaul of the system, which we estimate to be about $50 billion.
02:09However, out of abundance of caution, we are still going to do everything we can to rule it out.
02:16If that changes, we will let you know.
02:18But it doesn't appear right now that that was, that this was anything to do but with technology.
02:23Right.
02:24So with the AI program, you guys just introduced the SMART program from the FAA.
02:27So, as I mentioned, this is all the old legacy equipment.
02:33All of the new equipment that's been deployed did not go down.
02:36Our SMART system, which is a system that we have a feed for the whole airspace,
02:40that's going to help us better manage trajectories of airplanes and better manage weather,
02:46so we can, one, drive safety in the airspace and drive efficiency in the airspace.
02:51But that SMART system isn't plugged in to STARS and ERAM.
02:56It's not, this is completely disconnected.
02:59And I love that some people have said this would be the root cause.
03:02By the way, if it was, I would tell you that.
03:03But this is not even plugged in.
03:05What this does is gives information from the airspace to a human being
03:11and gives them a prompt on how they could better navigate weather or trajectories.
03:15Then the human being will actually decide to accept or deny that prompt.
03:19So we're not even tied in.
03:21So there's no possible way SMART would have impacted what happened today.
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