00:00 Tough times for Tariq Khan Sahib?
00:02 It's a problem but it's a habit.
00:06 Frankly, a couple of people ask me,
00:09 I laugh a lot because I've never seen such a situation.
00:15 So, it's tough times but take the example of Khaibar Pakhtunkhwa.
00:19 Our people are a little more emotional,
00:23 they wake up a little early.
00:25 We had to hear this for 6-7 months,
00:27 why aren't you coming out, you coward.
00:32 Sometimes you have to go back foot.
00:36 You said that the situation in the conventions,
00:39 and the DMG and bureaucracy tried to stop it with so much love,
00:46 but everyone was bigger than the other.
00:48 I think the situation today is that
00:51 despite the unlevel playing field,
00:54 we have created a playing field.
00:59 Sir, you have created a playing field in KP,
01:03 why couldn't you do it in Punjab?
01:05 What is wrong with the Punjab side of the leadership?
01:08 I have seen you in a few conventions,
01:11 you were present in Peshawar convention if I'm not mistaken,
01:15 in different cities in KP,
01:17 why couldn't you do it in Punjab?
01:19 You are not getting permission in Punjab.
01:21 You asked what is wrong,
01:25 one is Mohsin Naqvi,
01:27 the other is your IG,
01:29 the third is the chief secretary,
01:31 you are seeing the scenes,
01:34 you know the answer,
01:36 but I heard Mansoor's point,
01:41 there are many people,
01:43 I asked him today,
01:45 the problem is that even in Punjab,
01:48 for the first time,
01:51 a party has come in populist form after 1970,
01:56 so don't worry,
01:58 our 4-5 people have filled and collected the papers,
02:04 I don't know if I should have said this or not,
02:07 that they should start looking for the papers,
02:11 who should be printed in whose houses,
02:13 but they have collected and will do more.
02:16 And they will get it in the end.
02:18 Yes, finish it.
02:20 We will see, the end is near,
02:23 we will know what happens in the end.
02:25 No, no, this won't happen.
02:28 Think about it,
02:30 I have a background in finance and economics,
02:34 the market decides in the end,
02:37 think about it,
02:38 on 13th January,
02:39 the people who will be there,
02:41 there will be good people.
02:43 In the stock market,
02:45 insider trading is very common.
02:47 No, we are not insiders,
02:49 who will do insider trading with us?
02:52 We are just outsiders for you.
02:55 We are outsiders now,
02:58 but sometimes outsiders are normal.
03:00 I am not saying you,
03:01 I am saying you are an insider.
03:03 You should understand that.
03:05 The argument that is coming,
03:07 that there is defiance,
03:10 you need to come out and show the political party,
03:14 especially in Punjab,
03:15 in KP, you can see the Jalsas and conventions.
03:18 Do you agree with them that Punjab looks leaderless?
03:22 No, look, I think,
03:25 when you are in the moment,
03:28 there is always more chaos.
03:31 I gave you an example of the last 6-7 months,
03:35 frankly, Kashif,
03:36 we all would have been sitting in June,
03:38 in a private gathering,
03:40 no one would have understood that
03:42 in December,
03:43 PTI will have this popularity.
03:46 At least, this much.
03:48 Which year are you talking about?
03:50 22nd or 23rd?
03:51 This year.
03:52 No, no, I am talking about this year.
03:54 When this Kash PTI operation started,
03:57 I think everyone thought that
03:59 in a month, in two, in three, the party will end.
04:02 Okay?
04:03 In December, it is more popular.
04:06 When all your leadership is underground,
04:09 there are mistakes, chaos, of course, it happens.
04:12 But as soon as the Paktunkhwa is up,
04:14 my prediction is,
04:16 whether the situation will be difficult in January or not,
04:19 I don't know.
04:21 But in January, you will see,
04:24 people will come out in Punjab too.
04:26 Today, in many places, people have been stopped,
04:30 people have come out and they have forcibly collected their forms.
04:35 It shouldn't have been forced.
04:37 It is a democratic right.
04:39 Yes, by doing one thing, you can also do this favor.
04:42 A little bit more,
04:45 to call a spade a spade.
04:47 Right?
04:48 That,
04:49 the one who is doing wrong, we should define him.
04:52 And as Mansoor said,
04:54 don't always go back to the past.
04:56 Whatever was in the past,
04:59 whoever was wrong,
05:01 first of all, he should raise his voice.
05:04 Yes, but Maa ji, Mansoor has said another thing,
05:07 which I think everyone is talking about.
05:09 Yesterday too, when I was sitting with Gaur Khan,
05:12 if you compare it to 2018,
05:14 the situation in 2018 was not as bad as you see today.
05:19 These are a lot worse than what we saw in 2018.
05:22 And there is a reason for that.
05:25 The reason is that, I think,
05:27 the sooner people get rid of PTI,
05:30 the situation will get better.
05:32 If people's support is not getting rid of it,
05:35 the situation will get worse.
05:37 Have you submitted your documents, Mr. Jagra?
05:39 Now you are finding problems for me,
05:42 God willing, I will do it tomorrow.
05:44 I have heard that DC Peshawar has been told
05:47 to give a list of 3 MPOs.
05:50 I can only say to DC Peshawar that
05:52 I don't have a single bail,
05:54 but I have heard it twice.
05:56 Because there are two cases,
05:58 once they have bailed,
06:00 and I don't know how many cases they have kept in their pockets.
06:03 So they went to the court again,
06:05 and if there is another case,
06:07 they said that until they get the cases,
06:09 they should not be touched.
06:11 But Kashif, if a person still cannot go home,
06:13 because you don't know when the police will come to have tea,
06:16 then the situation of the country should not be like this.
06:19 But God willing, tomorrow we will submit it.
06:21 Mr. Kashi, please.
06:23 Is there an important leader who you have tried
06:25 and whose documents have not been submitted,
06:27 and who is from KP?
06:29 There were two incidents in KP.
06:33 Our MP, Pukhtun Yarkhan Banuke,
06:37 who is against Akram Durrani.
06:40 Pukhtun Yarkhan was arrested by DC
06:42 in 3 MPOs yesterday while leaving the court.
06:45 Yes, I have only one name from KP.
06:48 I have only one name with whom this happened.
06:51 Yes, like yesterday there were no papers in my circle.
06:56 There were in one circle and not in the other.
06:59 Obviously, there is no situation of Punjab in KP.
07:01 And I think it has had an impact
07:04 that people left KP.
07:06 I think they will leave in Punjab too,
07:08 but the most important thing that you all did
07:11 is that what is happening now is happening.
07:14 Whatever the result is later,
07:17 when we see this time period,
07:20 no one will remember it happily.
07:23 The loss is happening to Pakistan.
