00:00 The agreement that is in place now, one party, which is based on the views of Pakistan's
00:05 Tehrik-e-Insaf, says that this agreement does not exist.
00:08 The other party, which has confirmed this agreement, what will happen legally when the
00:15 ticket issues arise?
00:16 Because Tehrik-e-Insaf has already instructed people to deposit tickets on the basis of
00:21 this party.
00:22 So what will be the legal status of this?
00:25 The most important thing is that our friends, Mr. Kamran Abdullah and Mr. Shabaz Khosla,
00:32 have their expertise in legal matters.
00:34 They are the most capable of that.
00:36 But I will tell you one very important thing.
00:39 In the light of the law, when such agreements are made, as the Mujadid-e-Amal agreement
00:44 was made in the election of 2002, and then it was made in 2008, and then it was made
00:50 in 2010, and then it was made in 2011.
00:53 And then it was made in 2008.
00:55 So, the hearing was made with the formal election commission of Pakistan.
01:00 After that, they were given permission in the form of a group, because the alliance
01:06 has been made.
01:07 The book has been given that symbol.
01:09 The formal election commission has explained about it in section 215.
01:14 The parties that make alliances with each other, make coalitions, make alliances,
01:19 the election commission of Pakistan has written about it in section 215, that the alliance
01:24 will be made with the party that is fully compliant with the standards of section 209.
01:30 That is, after completing all the documents of the intraparty election, including assets,
01:36 liabilities, etc., that party can make an alliance with the other party, can form a group.
01:45 But the party that does not comply with section 209 or does not comply with its standards,
01:51 cannot make an alliance with any party.
01:54 Mr. Kavar, this has happened, sir.
01:56 The issues of intraparty elections in the People's Party and People's Party parliamentarians
02:00 are in front of us all.
02:02 I don't need to tell you again.
02:04 My friend said, I am saying this, I have explained.
02:08 The decision that came suddenly that the Tehreek-e-Insaf was very happy, very good statements were
02:15 coming everywhere.
02:16 We also said that if something like this happens, it is fine.
02:19 But now that a conservative group has been formed, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf is conservative,
02:24 Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf cannot make an alliance with them because Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
02:30 is not complying with the standards of section 209.
02:34 Their intraparty elections have been challenged and now the cards have been given.
02:38 So the party that fails in the intraparty election and has taken back the symbol of Pakistan
02:43 in the election, that party cannot make an alliance with any other party.
02:47 Number two.
02:48 Now, the termination of the term is written below that either party affiliation or independent.
02:54 If they have collected the termination of the term as independent, then any party can
03:00 say that we are members of your party when taking their symbol.
03:05 But if they have written Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf and they go to another party, then today the
03:10 Chief Election Commission has issued a very strict order from the commission.
03:14 It is written under section 4.
03:17 I read it for the first time today.
03:19 Under section 4 of the Election Act, it is written that wherever the Election Commission
03:24 can give direction at any time, they have issued a direction that the parties that do
03:31 not meet the standards of section 203 cannot join the other party.
03:35 The name has been given, but it is written, it cannot be fulfilled.
03:38 But the Supreme Court's decision is still waiting.
03:40 If the Supreme Court's decision comes in favor of Tehreek-e-Insaf, then after that,
03:45 can this be a coalition or a union, Mr. Kavar?
03:49 All doors will open.
03:51 The party that you want to alliance, you can do it wherever you want.
03:55 Because then you will accept it.
03:57 If the party has been accepted, they get the symbol back, they get the badge, then all
04:02 the matters are solved.
04:03 They do not even need to ally with any other party.
04:06 If they want to, they can.
04:08 One thing is that seat to seat adjustment is a separate thing.
04:12 When many parties do it together.
04:14 But what happens is that the Pakistan People's Party is a parliamentarian and the Pakistan
04:19 People's Party is a parliamentarian.
04:21 Mr. Azardari is the chair of the Pakistan Peer Party Parliamentarian.
04:25 I have united him.
04:26 Now, no candidate for the Pakistan People's Party is fighting the election.
04:30 Those elections are being fought by the Pakistan Peer Party Parliamentarian.
04:34 So, the arrow has been hit.
04:37 Many people tell very strange stories.
04:40 They say that the Supreme Court of Pakistan is being remassed.
04:44 That the sign of the sword was taken.
04:47 When was the sign of the sword taken?
04:50 The sign of the sword was removed in the time of the Marshall Administrator in 1977.
04:55 The sword and the solution of PNA.
04:58 And later they included the arrow.
05:01 So, when the Pakistan Peer Party fought the election in 1988, they said that we should
05:06 give the sword.
05:07 At that time, the Chief Election Commissioner, Mr. S. N. S. Murugan said that I was present.
05:12 I was a member of that committee.
05:14 So, the number was very good.
05:16 He said that we do not have the sword, you take the arrow.
05:19 So, he voluntarily gave the arrow to the Pakistan People's Party.
05:23 Okay, but the case is different.
05:25 One gets the second sign voluntarily.
05:28 Mr. Ashtar V. Saab is present with us.
05:30 We take this question to him.
05:32 Mr. Ashtar V. Saab, two different questions come to me.
05:35 First, this agreement between the Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf and PTI Naziriyati came to the public.
05:40 One team is denying it.
05:43 The other team is backing it.
05:46 There is a sign on it.
05:47 There are also seals on it.
05:49 And this is our pact.
05:51 And they also gave their staff the instructions that PTI Naziriyati should file the election papers.
05:59 So, now, what is the status of this agreement?
06:02 Will this be challenged in the court?
06:04 Will it be proved?
06:05 Whereas, one person comes on television and says that this agreement does not exist.
06:08 So, what is the legal standing of this?
06:11 This is a very interesting development that has come to light.
06:16 The case is pending.
06:19 And in the case, it was argued with doubt that they want the symbol of the bat.
06:27 Now, when this agreement came, this agreement is already there in this whole matter.
06:32 The agreement that PTI people did not mention in the court.
06:37 This weakens their case.
06:39 Because they are ready to take a different approach from the demand of PTI people.
06:48 So, their case will be weakened in this way.
06:52 Number two.
06:53 This sharing of symbol is subject to the permission of the Election Commission.
07:01 If the Election Commission does not give permission for this, then it cannot be done.
07:06 Thirdly, if this is the kind of system that if they take a ticket from any other party,
07:15 and it is obvious that PTI is not visible, it is a different political party,
07:20 which must have been registered separately, I do not know, it must have been registered compulsorily.
07:28 That is why all these systems are going on.
07:30 So, then they will not be candidates of PTI.
07:36 They will be candidates of PTI visibility.
07:39 And if they go back to PTI to change the affiliation of the party, they will lose their seats.
07:48 So, there are very serious legal consequences.
07:51 And I am surprised that without foreseeing all these legal consequences, how are these agreements being made?
08:00 And how are they being brought to the public?
08:02 Especially, when this is a very sensitive case in the Supreme Court, and the decision is being sought.
08:09 If they had done it after that, it would have been something else.
08:12 To make it public now and start all this controversy on it, also shows their immaturity.
08:19 Sir, let's go on its political timing, it is their prerogative.
08:23 I am also talking about legal.
08:24 The legal points are very valid.
08:26 What you said that later there will be legal complications, I hope that they…
08:31 Serious.
