00:00 I would like to ask you a question again, Mr. Kamran Murtaza.
00:06 As a political party and as a political opponent, a political party,
00:11 whether it wants to participate in the elections or not,
00:14 whether it gets an alternative sign or not, will be decided after a while.
00:19 But if it does not get the sign, then will the voter who has to vote for the party,
00:26 get out of the political process or will not be able to be a part of democratic action?
00:31 So, what will be the impact of the next election, credibility of the next government?
00:40 I will take you back in time.
00:48 When this political party was in coalition with someone and was deprived of leadership,
00:57 and it was the election of the Senate, and it was said that the tickets issued by their office,
01:06 all those tickets will not be considered as tickets, and all those matters will be remembered.
01:14 So, sometimes you see things in the world, you see things in the same way.
01:21 I have said this before that as a party, as a JUI, it is not our concern,
01:29 but our concern arises when you take the matter of Islamabad to Peshawar,
01:34 then as a lawyer, you are surprised that how did it happen.
01:37 Sir, that is a legal concern, I am asking you a political concern.
01:40 They start venue shopping, take the matter of this side to that side.
01:44 I am not telling you a political concern, otherwise as a party,
01:48 we do not have any problem with this, that who is getting which sign and who is not.
01:53 The biggest problem for us is what the party is doing.
01:57 Once whatever happened to it, it conceded that decision,
02:02 the election did not take place before that, or the election before that,
02:06 when the election commission undid it, and then what did it do the second time,
02:12 so all this, the system of this party, you are asking a political question,
02:16 the political party should do political actions, and should do it within the scope of the law.
02:21 I want to take this point a little further, Khossa sir is present with us.
02:25 Khossa sir, I have two or three more questions to ask you.
02:28 One is about the distribution of tickets, the list of the Justice Movement has come out,
02:33 should I ask this in the final list, because you meet the Bani of your Jamaat, Mr. Imran Khan,
02:39 and somewhere this report has been done, confirm it, that he has said that
02:43 the tickets were not finalized from his consultation.
02:47 Is this correct, or these tickets have been finalized from Mr. Khan's consultation?
02:53 Yes, I happened to be conducting the case and also sat in this meeting.
03:00 When this Mr. Gauhar came with the papers, you must have guessed that
03:06 the tickets were to be distributed in more than 800 rings,
03:11 so when he came with the papers, all his papers were snatched,
03:16 and those papers did not come into the jail at all.
03:19 And when we had to do that consultation separately, sitting on the tickets,
03:25 we were surrounded by more than 20 police officials,
03:30 who were getting messages again and again that pick them up from here, pick them up from here,
03:36 and one by one, the ones who were fast, who were good at speaking,
03:42 there was Barrister Umair Niazi, so where the discussion was happening,
03:49 this discussion was very briefly, and it was also under this environment,
03:55 that the entire jail staff was standing on their heads, saying again and again,
03:59 that pick them up, pick them up, there was a push and shove,
04:03 so in this environment, the tickets were discussed, as much as we could,
04:07 and as much as we could discuss, that has happened, this is neither meaningful nor discussion.
04:12 And after that, the ones who were allowed by Khan Sahib in a hurry,
04:18 they were finalized, but the rest are pending with the leadership.
04:22 This is just one other example of how badly the system is being rigged now,
04:28 and I am talking about the past of Kanaan Murtaza Sahib,
04:32 so is he predicting the future as well, that Mian Sahib, who is silent after seeing all this,
04:40 and is he predicting the future, that if he comes to power as a result of this,
04:45 then the same thing will happen to him as well, as is happening with Khan Sahib,
04:48 and will we continue to do the same with this country?
04:50 This is going ahead, two wrongs do not make a right.
04:52 I still have one more question regarding the tickets,
04:54 so the list that has been finalized so far, there are people's concerns on it,
04:57 for example, there is a slight concern about Jhelum,
04:59 whether to stand against Sheikh Rasheed Sahib or not, Sheikh Rasheed Sahib is disappointed,
05:03 there are complaints from many other places, Imtiaz Alam Sahib's ticket was probably returned,
05:08 apparently they say that there was no justice, so what will be the list, will there be a review,
05:13 and all these tickets, if Imran Khan Sahib does not have 100% ownership of them,
05:18 then who is making the rest of the decisions in the party,
05:20 because there is also a complaint that Vukla, on its own basis,
05:23 where tickets have to be adjusted, people are adjusting on the basis of their relations.
05:27 No, the decisions are being taken by Imran Khan,
05:33 Imran Khan has been allowed to discuss in the court,
05:37 but I am telling you the atmosphere of the discussions,
05:40 that how this atmosphere is going on inside,
05:43 and I think we will go to court soon, now these good decisions have been made,
05:48 and when they have come out, the provincial presidents and the provincial bodies are assisting the decisions,
05:56 but by and large, these decisions, the party has,
05:59 with the participation of Imran Khan, whatever the situation is, has done in it.
06:04 Thank you very much, Kamran Murtaza Sahib was with us,
06:06 Kabir Dilshahad Sahib was present, Sardar Shibaz Khossa.
