00:00 In terms of Labour leaders, let's say you've got to choose, do you take advice from the
00:05 Brown lot or the Blair lot?
00:08 Both, but I talk to Tony a lot about the period just before '97 because obviously I'm very
00:17 interested in talking to people who've won elections and taken a party from opposition
00:23 into government.
00:24 In the Labour Party we've only done that three times.
00:27 We did it in 1945.
00:29 We did it with Attlee.
00:30 We did it in 1964 with Wilson.
00:32 We did it in '97 with Tony Blair.
00:34 So talking to Tony and Gordon about that has been really helpful.
00:39 Not so much about specific policies, but about the pace, the preparedness of getting an opposition
00:47 ready for government if we are privileged enough to be voted in to serve.
