00:00 "Is there a meeting point between the government and the opposition?
00:03 You say that these are two extreme views.
00:07 If the government does this, then maybe the talks can happen.
00:10 Their view is very simple. One is the punishments of Khan Sahib.
00:13 The other is to return our seats.
00:15 Now the government says that if they remove Imran Khan, then the government will fall.
00:18 If they return the seats, then the government will fall.
00:20 So what is the meeting point?
00:21 I don't see any meeting point where both can sit together."
00:24 "I have been saying for a long time that there is no such thing between them that they can agree on.
00:30 They have no meeting point.
00:32 Their meeting point was provided by the constitution and that was on 8th February.
00:37 It was a meeting point for the whole of Pakistan.
00:39 We got an option, an opportunity to right things.
00:43 If we had done something there, if we had accepted the mandate there, then many problems could have been solved.
00:50 But with every passing day, this problem will get worse.
00:55 Now things have come to the point that I don't think they will sit together and a solution will be found.
01:02 Now Imran Khan's problem..."
01:04 "Because there is no meeting point, they cannot sit together."
01:07 "What do you mean by sitting together?"
01:08 "There is no starting point."
01:09 "The problem is that if you sit on my seat, then where will we sit?
01:14 They are saying that you are sitting on our seats.
01:17 You have taken over the government.
01:19 And the kind of results we have seen in the elections, we are seeing everywhere.
01:23 So that is the problem.
01:24 Because of that, there is no meeting point.
01:26 That is back to the basics.
01:28 That everyone should accept that the law and the act of the law, and then there is the role of the court.
01:33 The matter will go to the courts.
01:34 A petition has also gone to the courts.
01:36 The Afghani chairman has also filed a petition.
01:38 Now let's see if the court can come up with a solution.
01:42 So that it will come out of the legal path that either the election commission gives a decision or the court gives a decision.
01:47 These are all innocent wishes.
01:49 No, the election commission.
01:50 Sikandar Sultan Raja Sahib has just been to the Russian elections.
01:53 He is saying that whoever has ruined everything, one day he will wake up and say that it was a big injustice.
01:57 Come, I will fix it.
01:58 What are you saying?
01:59 But Madar Sahib, if this is the situation, then it is the same situation of the clash.
02:04 Where is the matter going?
02:06 If, for example, the meeting point is not visible.
02:09 Kashif, there is a meeting point.
02:12 But the government should take the initiative.
02:14 The Prime Minister should formally call the PTI for negotiations with his party.
02:20 And you can put three things in it.
02:23 PTI obviously wants that things are clear about the election.
02:28 You can put a proposal in it.
02:30 Make a high-powered judicial commission of the judicial commission.
02:34 And commit both its findings that whatever the findings will be, we will agree with it.
02:40 The second point can be about the economy.
02:44 Agree with the economy.
02:45 How to talk to the IMF.
02:47 How to move forward.
02:48 Third, for political stability.
02:51 For political stability, the political prisoners should be released.
02:56 Those who do not have charges, should be released.
03:00 Those who have charges, should be speeded up.
03:03 But Madar Sahib, I can say both of your things.
03:06 Political prisoners, Imran Khan, should be released.
03:11 Or end the false cases.
03:13 When you say, make a judicial commission,
03:15 it is a sword that will be hanging on the government's head.
03:17 And you know, and we know, that this is a two-edged sword for the government.
03:21 Now tell me, the government that is being formed,
03:24 which is going to you, which is supposedly making difficult decisions,
03:27 is doing it because after six months, the judicial commission will come and say,
03:30 Sir, here are 40-50 seats, so you have been forced.
03:32 Sir, your government is not formed.
03:34 And the government will fall slowly after that.
03:36 The party will be destroyed.
03:38 Kashif, see, there are two things.
03:40 Kashif, there are two things.
03:41 One is that, one is that, there are already election tribunals formed.
03:45 Our reporters, I don't know, our reporters should go and find out
03:48 how many petitions have been filed in the election tribunals.
03:51 The second thing is that, when in 2014, you will remember,
03:55 that Imran Khan and Tahirul Qadri had met separately,
03:58 they met with General Raheel Sharif.
04:00 And he had said that you should resign from the Prime Minister.
04:06 General Raheel Sharif said that I will not resign,
04:09 you should go and make a commission, do an inquiry,
04:12 and if there are findings of the commission,
04:14 that large-scale rigging has been done,
04:16 so ultimately Imran Khan agreed on judicial commission,
04:19 and then whatever findings were there,
04:21 with his reservations, he accepted the commission's recommendation.
04:26 Did not agree but accept.
04:28 He did not agree?
04:30 Yes, I am saying the same thing about his reservations.
04:33 But the main thing is that your negotiators have finished.
04:36 In 2013, there were not so many bad conditions for PTI.
04:39 Let's be honest, electorally.
04:41 Kashif, the main problem is that our good negotiators have finished.
04:45 Our meeting points people have finished.
04:48 Those who can make people sit,
04:51 the mediators, who are mediators,
04:54 earlier there were Nawabzada, Nasrullah Khan, these people were there.
04:57 Now those people have finished in our country.
05:00 Now there are party directions,
05:02 and things are done on party directions.
05:04 But still I think, if needed,
05:06 the government will have to take the initiative.
05:09 Government will have to take the initiative.
05:11 Not with a simple decision.
05:13 Sir, let's see what initiative is acceptable for PTI.
05:15 Because I think that the biggest foundation that will fall,
05:18 will be the election, that the election should be audited.
05:21 I think Khan sir said that we should get the audits done.
05:25 If I am Shabaz Sinif, then I will never be able to accept this.
05:30 Look, their real aim is not such a big thing.
05:34 It is the election in Islamabad.
05:36 There were 5 candidates, for example, of any party.
05:39 There were 5 candidates.
05:41 One has a different form 47, form 45,
05:44 and the rest are all equal.
05:46 The rest are saying that we are ready to go,
05:48 if you don't have the audits.
05:49 Exactly, I am saying this.
05:50 Mustafa Nawaz Koker says this,
05:51 the people of the Islamic Republic say this.
05:53 The people of the UK say that they are ready to go.
05:55 So what is the difficult work in this?
05:57 This is the difficult work.
05:58 Now you will have to explain to people,
06:00 what is difficult.
06:01 This means that we should not do it.
06:02 The government has given the seats.
06:04 This means that we should not do it.
06:06 If we don't do it, then what will be the starting point?
06:08 This is a non-starter.
06:09 That is a non-starter, sir.
06:11 It is not interested.
06:12 It is not, right?
06:13 It is not interested.
06:14 They only have PDM 1, it has been going on for 16 months.
06:18 They have to run PDM 2, whether it is 16 months,
06:21 whether it is 18 months, ultimately what will happen is that
06:25 the election, I say this again and again,
06:29 what do the people have?
06:31 One vote is there in 5 years.
06:33 Nothing else.
06:34 The people have no guns, no tanks, no ships,
06:38 no treasures, nothing.
06:40 There is only one vote.
06:41 So if even that, one wins 8 to 1,
06:45 they put a vote on 8 to 1,
06:47 someone else gets 9,
06:49 someone else gets 1,30,000.
06:51 I agree with you.
06:53 They do such a big exercise.
06:55 If we had the belief that they are doing something for the country,
06:59 or they can do it, then it is possible that we,
07:02 but there is also a doubt on their intentions.
07:05 Look at their track record of 35 years, 40 years,
07:08 and their capacity too.
07:10 The world has gone from where to where.
07:14 We will still build motorways, we will build airports.
07:17 National motorways and airports are made.
07:20 You must have never heard from them that we will fix the judicial system.
07:24 You must have never heard that...
07:25 We have talked about IT city, Mr. Maryam Nawaz.
07:27 What?
07:28 We are going to build IT city.
07:29 We are going to build a cancer hospital.
07:31 We will build a shopping center and a hotel.
07:34 This is the video that was discussed in the meeting.
07:37 We will build a shoddy hall.
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