00:00Whether it is the opposition or the government who are criticizing the judiciary,
00:04Mr. Sheikh has started saying something.
00:06I just wanted to say that the decision that has been taken in this case,
00:13I will put the legal point of view in front of you,
00:1750-60 of our people have requested for recounting.
00:2170-80% of them went to the courts,
00:26and the courts have said that since the tribunals have been set up,
00:30it is not our job to listen to this.
00:32You should go back.
00:33There are 10-15 people who have cases like this.
00:37Many of our MPs are like this.
00:39They say that the tribunal has been formed.
00:41And when the tribunal is formed,
00:43there is a reason for it.
00:44After the Supreme Court, there is no remedy.
00:46The decision has been made.
00:47These poor people have become remedy-less.
00:49That is why it is always said that you should go to the tribunal.
00:51If there is something wrong in the decision that will be made,
00:54then you will have a remedy in the next court.
00:57This has not been done here either.
00:59The people of PTI have been told to go back.
01:03And the three people who came here,
01:05they were told to come and make a decision.
01:07You talked about the election commission.
01:09And it is a very sad thing.
01:11Bilal Ijaz was not given any notices.
01:13He is from Gujranwala.
01:15And the office of the accused,
01:17where the recount was started after several months,
01:20was cordoned by the police.
01:22He sat with me in the office of the secretary of the election commission.
01:26They were showing him a live video of what the police were doing.
01:29I showed him the video.
01:31I gave him an application.
01:32I told him that this candidate is sitting in the assembly.
01:34He was not given a notice.
01:36You did not call him.
01:37How can you open the bag without him?
01:39How can you recount?
01:40There is no law.
01:41As if the bag was closed.
01:43Maybe.
01:44You know, this law has been quoted here.
01:48The result of consolidating you is that
01:50you or any other representative has to be there.
01:53I will tell you.
01:54And there were no people.
01:55They were thrown out.
01:56I will tell you.
01:57The election agent,
01:58there is an election agent,
01:59one man and one woman.
02:01He sits there.
02:02He signs the consolidation.
02:04And he has been signed in the consolidation.
02:07He was sitting there when the bag was opened.
02:09But when you opened it again,
02:10you did not let our election agent sit there.
02:12You did not let our polling agents sit there.
02:16Our MLA is sitting here in the assembly.
02:18He is saying that he did not receive the notice.
02:20You suddenly defeat him by many thousands.
02:22You should have punished that RO, that DC, that DPO.
02:30This was the responsibility of the Election Commission of Pakistan.
02:33Rather, you become a party and sit in front of them.
02:35What are they doing?
02:36Where should they go now?
02:37Dr. Sir, he is saying that
02:39Now the way to form 47 has been opened for all.
02:44Whoever wants to, will have to make a government.
02:46Form 47, let's make a government.
02:48But from 135,000 to 120,000,
02:51only one person will run in the recount.
02:5315,000 votes.
02:5510,000 votes.
02:56Brother, the thing is that
02:58Sheikh Sahab gave an example.
03:00I did not interrupt him at all.
03:01Sorry, I was just saying.
03:02No, no, no.
03:03You were right.
03:04You spoke.
03:05I said I did not interrupt you.
03:06I did not.
03:07But the thing is that
03:08his answer is that
03:10case to case,
03:13every case is different.
03:15Every case is different.
03:17The blanket you are talking about,
03:19I agree with it.
03:20The basic thing is that we will agree.
03:22That your tribunal is closed.
03:23We will not do it, but we agree.
03:24The tribunal is closed.
03:26After that, the laws in the Election Act
03:28are absolutely clear.
03:29This is fine.
03:30But what kind of technical thing
03:32is associated with every case,
03:34it is obvious that it is in your program here.
03:37So, neither can it be examined in detail,
03:39nor can it be commented on.
03:40Sir, tell me this.
03:41Is this a majority decision or a KDP decision?
03:43And what was Mr. Azhar's case?
03:45What was the case of Mr. Kanju
03:47and the other candidates against him?
03:49Every case is different from each other.
03:51I am telling you.
03:52I have explained the whole case to you.
03:54No, but you are telling me this.
03:56You have made it difficult for me.
03:58You are telling me to vote in such a large number.
04:00Neither you are present there,
04:01nor am I present there.
04:02How can I comment on this?
04:04The decision went to the Supreme Court.
04:06Then it went to the Supreme Court.
04:07No, no, twice.
04:08And I was sitting behind the election committee.
04:09The decision was made by the election commission.
04:12Then it went to the High Court.
04:14The decision of the election commission was rejected.
04:16The Supreme Court appealed against the decision of the High Court.
04:19The decision of the election commission was revoked.
04:21You are talking about the difference in the recount of votes.
04:24I am saying that in this whole process,
04:26you and I were not sitting there
04:27that I will tell you whether this vote was counted right or wrong.
04:29I am talking about that.
04:31The rest is that the grounds that the Supreme Court
04:33will give in its decision in detail,
04:35after that I can comment on it.
04:37The detailed decision has come.
04:39I have not read it.
04:40The detailed decision of page 47.
04:41You read it.
04:42They have said that there are examples of the past.
04:44This is a very long and broad decision.
04:46Many examples have been given that
04:48the election commission can intervene.
04:50The old law, the new law has come.
04:53They have said that the amendments of 95.1, 95.5
04:57have not been considered from there.
04:59They have made many decisions.
05:00Look, I told you that I agree with Sheikh Sahib
05:03that when the tribunal is formed,
05:05then the powers of the election commission
05:07or the High Court are equal to non-existence.
05:09They become very limited.
05:11I would like to say one thing.
05:13Sir, one second.
05:15In the last paragraph,
05:17the Supreme Court judge has written
05:19that the ECP is a mirror institution.
05:21And the judges of Lahore High Court,
05:23they have lost sight of this.
05:25This is a mirror institution.
05:27We should respect it.
05:29As you said earlier,
05:31we should also respect the Supreme Court.
05:33They don't do it.
05:35It's a separate issue.
05:37Institutions have to respect themselves.
05:39Their conduct should be respected.
05:41I will say one thing.
05:43In principle,
05:45Sheikh Sahib and you,
05:47both of you,
05:49both of you,
05:51both of you,
05:53both of you,
05:55both of you,
05:57both of you,
05:59both of you,
