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00:58At that time Peter approached Jesus and asked him,
01:01If my brother offends me, how many times do I have to forgive him?
01:06Up to seven times?
01:08Jesus answered him, not just seven times, but seventy times seven.
01:15Then Jesus said to them,
01:17The kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants.
01:23The first person they introduced him to owed him many millions.
01:27Since he had nothing with which to pay, the Lord ordered that he be sold.
01:32to his wife, his children and all his possessions to settle the debt.
01:38The servant, throwing himself at his feet, begged him, saying,
01:43Be patient with me and I'll pay you everything back.
01:47The king took pity on that servant, let him go, and even forgave his debt.
01:54But no sooner had that server left than he met one of his colleagues who owed him a small amount of money.
02:02Then he grabbed him by the neck and almost strangled him while saying,
02:07Pay me what you owe me.
02:09His companion knelt before him and begged him,
02:12Be patient with me and I'll pay you everything back.
02:16But the other refused to listen.
02:18Instead, he went and put him in jail until he paid his debt.
02:22Upon seeing what had happened, his colleagues were filled with indignation.
02:27And they went to tell the king what had happened.
02:31Then the Lord called him and said to him,
02:34You wicked servant, I forgave you all that debt because you begged me to.
02:40Shouldn't you have had compassion for your companion too?
02:44as I had compassion on you.
02:47And the Lord, in anger, handed him over to the executioners.
02:51so that they wouldn't be released until he paid what he owed.
02:56My Heavenly Father will do the same for you.
02:59if each person does not forgive his brother from the heart.
03:03The Gospel text we read today
03:19Complete the one from last week.
03:24This chapter 18 that we have been reading these past two weeks
03:28It is known to scholars as the ecclesiastical chapter.
03:32In other words, Saint Matthew has brought together in this chapter
03:37two fundamental teachings about how the church should live,
03:45the community.
03:45And that's why last week one of the most important elements in the community
03:51The community cannot be a fungus.
03:55We cannot be a series of islands that only come together for celebration,
04:00but it must actually be a true community.
04:03We need to care about each other.
04:08And that's why last week we saw how fundamental it was
04:12that we had an interest in the salvation of our brothers.
04:17If you see your brother sinning, if you see your brother doing something that is not right,
04:23Well, call his attention to it, correct him.
04:27So that we can all walk together as a community.
04:30We can't leave anyone behind, we said last week,
04:34to see that someone is drowning, that someone has a problem within the community
04:38And well, I'm not interested.
04:41Communities are just that, a group of brothers and sisters walking together
04:47and where we all care about each other.
04:52This is fundamental within our families.
04:56The family, as we said last week, is the smallest cell within the ecclesial community.
05:05This thought is completed by the instruction that the Lord gives us today.
05:10We not only have to look out for the salvation of others and be interested in one another,
05:17but also in the communities, because that natural friction occurs.
05:21We rub against each other and then we start having differences.
05:28And this must necessarily lead us to forgiveness.
05:32A community must be a community of forgiveness, a community of welcome,
05:38a community where we all care about each other,
05:42But when we're all walking together, we do have some differences.
05:46Spouses naturally have differences throughout their lives.
05:53Parents with children, children with parents, friends with each other, with the same community.
05:59And this is something that we cannot avoid.
06:03It's something that will always happen.
06:04Therefore, forgiveness must always be one of its characteristics.
06:11one of the characteristic features of Christians.
06:14Because this is how we build the community.
06:19A community of love, a community that respects each other.
06:22And a community that sometimes only tolerates itself, as Saint Paul will say later.
06:28Not everyone, as the old saying goes, because we are all gold coins and we can't please everyone.
06:34So these are the two main instructions on how we should help build the community.
06:41On one hand, we have the issue of being interested in each other.
06:48And on the other hand we have the issue of forgiveness.
06:52Our reflection must necessarily focus on the topic of forgiveness and the topic of community.
06:59about the element that generates them, the element that motivates them, which is their engine.
07:05And this can be none other than love.
07:07If I don't love my brother and I see him drowning, then I'm going to let him drown.
07:15I'm not going to risk my life.
07:17We said last week that when we go to correct a brother,
07:21because we run the risk of getting into some trouble with the correction.
07:26Only those who love take risks.
07:29Only the one who loves is capable of facing, at a given moment, the other person's reaction.
07:36We were saying that in the letter to the Hebrews it tells us that nobody likes to be corrected.
07:41At that moment there is an internal reaction.
07:44Our inner selves get agitated, don't they?
07:47That pride and selfishness that is always present in our hearts,
07:51Well, it comes out at that time and nobody likes it.
07:55And as we said last week, well, to keep the peace.
07:59Well, I look better when I'm quiet.
08:03Only those who love are capable of correcting.
08:06because he is the one who risks having that possible reaction from the person.
08:12We would have to say the same thing about the topic we are dealing with today regarding forgiveness.
08:21How much do you love?
08:24How much do you forgive?
08:26That's it, in a way, I've always tried to tell them what can't be measured.
08:34Well, it's hard to know where we are.
08:36How much do I love?
08:38Well, among some of the elements, the indicators that we could have about love,
08:44Well, one of them has to be the topic of forgiveness.
08:48How much do I love?
08:52So, how much is my capacity to forgive?
08:56That's where I can start to realize how much love has developed within me.
09:02Today, the topic he proposes within reconciliation is how we are limiting our forgiveness.
09:12Notice how our world today is always trying to measure what the minimum is.
09:20What is the minimum I need to pass?
09:23And generally, tell me, if not generally, there will always be someone who isn't like that,
09:31But we usually say, well, I'll do it with 7, right?
09:36In other words, it's like we're trying to reach 7 and we're never seeing 10.
09:40If I get a 7, I've already made it; generally, young people's thinking might be like that.
09:48There are always those who are obsessed with the number 10, aren't there?
09:54But, well, why all that, right?
09:57We'll do it with number 7, right guys?
09:59Okay?
10:02Very well, this is the issue of limiting, and the love of God cannot be limited.
10:09The text we heard today begins, Peter approached him and said,
10:16Master, how many times, tell me, how many times do I have to forgive my brother?
10:27Give me a number.
10:30He proposes one and it's going to be long.
10:34He's going to say it up to seven times.
10:36And I say, it's going to take a long time, because, well, by now he's probably already learned something from the master.
10:44And then it's going to be a little long, because in the same, the number for forgiveness would be four.
10:52How many times should I forgive my brother?
10:55Well, the same would indicate that four times is enough, right?
11:01Don't bathe her.
11:03You came once already, well, I forgive you.
11:07Okay, fine, I forgive you again.
11:10Okay, fine, I forgive you again.
11:13The fourth.
11:14You come back again, and I forgive you.
11:16Fifth, now you've really reached the end, buddy.
11:19Saint Peter is going to be a long one, he said.
11:24I'm going to add three more, let's see what the Lord says.
11:26Because the question is, how many times, right?
11:29And he said, "Up to seven?"
11:31Like, wow!
11:33So, I can forgive up to seven times, I have to?
11:37And then, Jesus's answer is completely inexplicable.
11:45Peter, I'm not saying seven times, but seventy times seven, that is, always.
11:54In other words, you can't limit love.
11:57You can't say, 'How much am I going to love my wife?'
12:03To my husband, to my parents, how far?
12:05What is the limit?
12:08It has no limit.
12:10We cannot put a limit on love.
12:13Therefore, we cannot put a limit on forgiveness.
12:16Therefore, we cannot limit our willingness to risk everything to save a brother who is walking down the path of darkness.
12:24There can be no limits.
12:27What's the maximum?
12:29That word doesn't exist.
12:31We cannot ask the Lord that.
12:33How much?
12:34Because the answer will always be everything.
12:38Remember what we said last week and you'll see how everything is in the same vein.
12:44We were saying, if he doesn't listen to you, go with two others.
12:48If he doesn't listen to you, then listen to the community.
12:53In other words, remember what we were saying, it's not that I'm setting a limit and in the end, well, as I said last week, the text of the first reading, well, if he doesn't listen to them, he's going to die on his own.
13:06I mean, you can't just grab him by the neck and give him a piggyback ride and drag him away to safety.
13:12Well, no, we can't.
13:13Because?
13:14Because at the end of it all is freedom.
13:17But the instruction, as we said last week, is to insist again and again and again and again.
13:23In other words, don't give up.
13:25Help him, try to rescue him so that he is not condemned, so that he may have life and have it abundantly.
13:32It's the same now.
13:34How many times do I have to forgive?
13:35Well, as many times as you need, one, two, three, four, five, as many as you need, don't get tired.
13:44And this, obviously, has to do with the dimension of love.
13:49It is the measure by which we measure the love in our hearts.
13:54One quote that we have already seen very clearly is that of John 3:16.
14:03How much did God love the world?
14:05The question again, right?
14:07How much?
14:10Juan responds, even to the point of giving up what he loves most, his son.
14:20In other words, that's the measure of love.
14:24Giving yourself completely is going to the extreme.
14:29It's going to the extreme.
14:30We cannot settle for less than this.
14:33Our love has to be like that, to the extreme, so that, if love is what drives reconciliation,
14:43Well, my love has to walk towards the end.
14:47In chapter 13 of John, Jesus again repeats this idea of reaching the maximum.
14:57It says, and having loved his own, he loved them to the end.
15:03And today our society always seeks to limit, always seeks to stay like this, why do I have to give everything?
15:14Why do I have to give it my all?
15:16There's a saying, right?
15:19As you can see, I always come out with my proverbs and sayings, because they express the thoughts and mentality of the people.
15:26And he says, to the woman, neither all the love, nor all the money.
15:32That is a completely pagan thought.
15:35That is not the thinking of a Christian.
15:37Well, it's about giving ourselves completely.
15:41When I'm with couples, I explain to them the kind of relationship that needs to exist and how it should work,
15:50I think I've told you this before, I say, I put it in the line of, well, how many marbles do you have?
15:56Well, maybe one of them has eight marbles.
15:59And you? No, I have five.
16:00Okay, give me your eight and your five, well, now we have thirteen.
16:03Now each one is thirteen.
16:07I gave you all my marbles and you gave me all your marbles.
16:11Now we have both thirteens.
16:14It's not good.
16:15How many do you have? Eight.
16:16And you? Four.
16:17Oh boy, no, well, or five.
16:18No, well, I'll give you one, right?
16:20And what do you give me?
16:21No, well, so I don't run out, I'll give you two.
16:23No.
16:26That's the mindset of the world.
16:28That is the pagan mentality that does not allow community to be built.
16:33And we always fall short in our communities.
16:37The priest says, no, well, who knows, here I give you a little bit, but I'm saving myself for my time, for my sixth, for la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la.
16:44And I don't give myself completely to my community.
16:46And the community says, no, well, yes, the father needs us for this and that, but no.
16:51I'd rather stay home, I'd rather watch television, I'd rather ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta.
16:57Yeah?
16:58It's not a complete, total delivery.
17:03Monday is for my football and Wednesday is for I don't know what.
17:06And on Thursday, but everything else, my love, is for you.
17:11That's not the whole picture.
17:13Love must always be present and must be measured on the line of totality.
17:18All my love, completely for you.
17:21Because?
17:22Because you're going to need it precisely at the moment you get rubbed.
17:28You'll need it on the day you have to correct your husband or wife, your son or your father.
17:34I love you very much, Dad.
17:35And I love you so much that I'm going to risk telling you, imagine,
17:38You're going to stand up to your dad and say, 'Dad,'
17:42This attitude you're taking is not like you.
17:46Macatelas.
17:48In principle, then, who knows how things will turn out.
17:52Maybe later, Dad, if he has a little bit of a sense of humor, reflects, and says,
17:56You're right, daughter or son, I was wrong.
18:00But at that moment, only love can drive us to do strange things.
18:07risky things like this.
18:09The same applies to the line of forgiveness.
18:12Only those who love are capable of forgiving from the heart.
18:19Only those who love are capable of forgiving from the heart.
18:23That is why Jesus, who loves us infinitely, says,
18:27And having loved his own, he loved them to the end.
18:32How do you love?
18:35How do you love your dad?
18:37To the extreme?
18:39Cool, let's see how far up the bush it grows.
18:44How far do we love?
18:45We are getting used to limiting even love in the world.
18:52And that's why many marriages don't work out.
18:57Because they always conduct their relationship with a limited love.
19:02How much should I do?
19:04How much should I love?
19:06How long must I continue to sacrifice myself?
19:08We're always measuring up to how much.
19:11When the Lord tells us, always, everything, try it, again and again,
19:19And seek it, and persist, again and again, until the conversion occurs.
19:25until we can find common ground between the two of us.
19:32It is love that is driving this situation.
19:36And in this situation of love,
19:38one of the elements that begins to give us a different perspective on our relationships with others,
19:46The thing is, love's first instinct is to make excuses.
19:52Love is an excuse.
19:55Love always thinks well of the other person.
19:57I would like to read this short text to you because it is very rich.
20:03The text, which we already know well, I am not quoting from memory,
20:07but I invite you to see it in your Bibles in 1 Corinthians 13,
20:12Chapter 13, verses 4 through 7.
20:15It is a much-quoted, much-used text.
20:18but nevertheless, little analyzed, little reflected upon.
20:25I read verses 4 through 7.
20:29Says,
20:30To have love is to know how to endure,
20:33It is being kind,
20:34It's about not being envious,
20:36nor be presumptuous,
20:37nor proud,
20:38nor rude,
20:39nor selfish.
20:40It's about not getting angry,
20:42nor hold a grudge,
20:44It is not to rejoice in injustices,
20:46but of the truth.
20:48He who has love suffers all things,
20:50He believes everything,
20:51He expects everything,
20:52It can withstand anything.
20:53The person who has love,
20:57is a person who is capable of having a different vision of the world and of the person.
21:06I see it in my dealings,
21:08and I deal with people a lot,
21:10on the subject, then, of conflict resolution,
21:13particularly among spouses.
21:17There isn't a week that goes by without two or three couples arriving.
21:19or two or three people who have problems in their marriage.
21:24Many of them are young,
21:26others not so much.
21:29What is the common problem in marriages?
21:33Why do problems occur?
21:35The issue is, certainly, a lack of love.
21:38And how is it expressed?
21:39How is that lack of love expressed?
21:42Well, then,
21:43each one of us,
21:45we have, we have gone,
21:46we have grown up in an environment,
21:49in a particular environment.
21:52In our house,
21:54our environments,
21:56when we were teenagers,
21:57or when we were young.
22:01Imagine a person who grew up in a house,
22:05where, then,
22:07It was always seen, then,
22:09despised.
22:12When I was younger,
22:15In my youth,
22:17He belonged to the scouts,
22:20and then,
22:21in one,
22:22We were at a campsite,
22:25And well,
22:26at night,
22:27They cannot be left behind,
22:28or they shouldn't be left,
22:29the dirty dishes,
22:31because later that night,
22:32Well, an animal might come.
22:33to look for food,
22:35He smells it,
22:35And so,
22:36then,
22:37We have problems,
22:38No?
22:38So,
22:38There was always laundry to do at night.
22:40And well,
22:41well,
22:41for washing,
22:41It's not like you have bleach there,
22:44and it leaves,
22:44He turns on the water,
22:45and everything falls into place,
22:46TRUE?
22:47Even if they are still at home,
22:48We turned the dishes around,
22:49at night,
22:50TRUE?
22:50Well,
22:51Now imagine yourselves in the mountains,
22:52that we have to go to the river,
22:54everything dark,
22:55bring a small lamp,
22:56and there,
22:57Let's see if I don't get a lizard.
22:59TRUE?
22:59They don't exist here,
23:01But everyone says,
23:02Let's see if a lizard doesn't appear.
23:04Total,
23:04we were finishing dinner,
23:06And then the patrol leader,
23:12the leader of that little group,
23:14says,
23:15Well, tonight,
23:17The dumbest one will wash the dishes.
23:19No?
23:21And then,
23:22all by himself,
23:23one gets up,
23:24whose name,
23:25I omit,
23:26to avoid involving innocent people,
23:28and says,
23:30Why is it always me?
23:37Nobody mentioned his name.
23:40This gives us an idea,
23:43how often,
23:44We label the person,
23:46and that label,
23:47You end up believing it.
23:49I'm the dumbest one,
23:50I'm the ugly one,
23:51or the ugly one,
23:53I am whatever.
23:55If in addition to that,
23:56They told me I'm the most ignorant,
23:59and that I lack the ability,
24:01and,
24:01Well,
24:02so many things,
24:03Or perhaps,
24:04I went,
24:05because he was badly beaten,
24:06TRUE?
24:06He barely said anything,
24:07and I had a dad,
24:08Well, very violent.
24:09a mom,
24:10very violent,
24:11And for every thing he said,
24:13if he said,
24:14pious,
24:15soups,
24:15TRUE?
24:16They beat me.
24:18Therefore,
24:19when my dad arrived,
24:20I was trying to hide,
24:21And that made me a timid person,
24:24or,
24:25a person who learns to defend themselves.
24:28I see a lot,
24:29For example,
24:29in the youngest children,
24:30of the families,
24:32especially in families,
24:33which are few today,
24:34who already have a slightly larger family,
24:38four or five,
24:39TRUE?
24:40Well, we can see that the little boy is quite brave.
24:43TRUE?
24:45Because?
24:45Because he has older brothers,
24:47And we have to defend ourselves against these scoundrels.
24:48because otherwise they'll leave me without dessert,
24:50TRUE?
24:51So,
24:51quickly,
24:52We need to go straight to dessert.
24:53because otherwise,
24:54The other one blows it up.
24:55I have to find a way to move forward.
25:01No?
25:02Well,
25:02He's learning all of this as he goes.
25:05We're learning it as we go.
25:07It is becoming a way of reacting.
25:10And this form creates something like a,
25:15If I use it under the new terms,
25:20TRUE?
25:20Which I think most of us already use,
25:22TRUE?
25:23It's a way of decoding the message.
25:26There is a message,
25:28And how do I decode it?
25:30What do I really understand?
25:33The other one tells me,
25:34I love you,
25:34And I understand,
25:35I hate you.
25:37The other one tells you,
25:38I need you,
25:39And I understand,
25:40step aside.
25:43But,
25:43This is because it gradually developed.
25:46throughout my life,
25:47a pattern.
25:49And then,
25:50with this pattern now,
25:51This is how I decode the message.
25:54And then,
25:55If the other person tells me,
25:55hello,
25:56What, what, why, hello?
25:57What, what's wrong with you?
25:58No no,
25:58I was just asking if you were okay.
26:01Yes, I'm fine.
26:02and?
26:02No no,
26:03Okay, fine.
26:04That's enough, isn't it?
26:04Yeah.
26:05I mean,
26:06always defending me,
26:07always on the defensive,
26:09Because that's how I learned.
26:14And who will help me change?
26:19Who is going to make this behavior happen?
26:21Now have I changed?
26:22Imagine,
26:23in a marriage,
26:24only when there is love.
26:33When there is love,
26:34I can begin to understand you.
26:37The first point in love
26:39It's about understanding you,
26:41It's knowing that what's happening right now,
26:45because it comes from your previous life.
26:46And not to feel attacked or offended,
26:50because at some point you reacted in such and such a way.
26:55But what does this include?
26:57or that involves,
26:58a much deeper understanding of the person.
27:03Today, young people have extremely superficial relationships.
27:06One of the things that have been included within the nullity processes,
27:13within the ecclesiastical court,
27:16It has been to ask those who are in this process,
27:19Tell us a little more about your single life.
27:23What was your life like at home?
27:25How many siblings did you have?
27:27What was the relationship that existed between your family,
27:30with your brothers,
27:31with your parents?
27:32How did your parents relate to each other?
27:35How did your siblings relate to you?
27:38To have a little bit,
27:39some information,
27:41about the person,
27:42in order to understand later,
27:44the reactions that occurred,
27:45after marriage,
27:46and to say,
27:47Well, this was going badly from the beginning.
27:51You married someone you didn't know.
27:55And obviously, that's why they say,
27:58They changed it on me.
27:59No.
28:01That's how it was.
28:03Only when we're dating,
28:05Well, many things happen in our house,
28:08because they don't happen in our dating relationship.
28:11But now that our house is both our house,
28:14Well, then the same thing happened as in my house,
28:17It happens here.
28:18The same reactions that occurred there,
28:20They are here now.
28:22And then,
28:23when this does not mature,
28:26throughout all of this,
28:28a human relationship does not develop,
28:31deep,
28:32that helps me get to know others,
28:34then love,
28:36He's not going to be understanding.
28:39And I won't understand you.
28:41Because I don't even know why you treat me like this.
28:47The rescue lies in the fact that I
28:50I can decode it now in a different way
28:54your reaction,
28:56and then,
28:57I forgive you.
29:01So,
29:02I forgive you.
29:04How much?
29:05All.
29:07How many times?
29:08All.
29:10Until this changes.
29:11There will come a time
29:12that with my help,
29:14and well,
29:14knowing
29:15how do they happen
29:16all these things,
29:17As I said,
29:18Well,
29:19Try to help a little to see
29:20So why are you reacting like that?
29:23Many times,
29:23This is where a little bit comes in.
29:24the help of a psychologist,
29:26that a priest could do it.
29:29But imagine,
29:30but,
29:31our psychologist brothers
29:32They are dying of hunger,
29:33No?
29:33And furthermore,
29:35Well, I wouldn't have the time.
29:36I mean,
29:37It is no longer the part,
29:39If you look closely,
29:39It's a human part,
29:41what does that have to do with it
29:42with a different vision
29:44of life.
29:48So,
29:48I'm starting to understand,
29:49Yeah,
29:49Well, yes, every now and then
29:50My dad used to tell me
29:50who was a fool,
29:51Well, now I think,
29:53believe,
29:53that I'm a fool,
29:54TRUE?
29:55And then I took that with me.
29:56to school,
29:57And as I already thought
29:58who was a fool,
29:59So then everyone was telling me,
30:00Oh,
30:00What a fool!
30:01Yeah,
30:01Well, that's what I am.
30:02TRUE?
30:03And that's how you grow.
30:06And then when they say
30:07the dumbest one gets up,
30:08Well, I,
30:09TRUE?
30:09I mean,
30:11I am tagged
30:12And that label already,
30:13It fits me perfectly now.
30:16And not.
30:17Then the husband,
30:20the wife who loves me,
30:24TRUE?
30:24It starts to help me say,
30:26No,
30:26you are beautiful,
30:28You are beautiful,
30:29You are very intelligent,
30:30Look what you've done,
30:31what you have decided.
30:33And one starts to say,
30:34hey,
30:34it's true?
30:36Well, maybe
30:37I'm not the model
30:38stunning
30:39from magazines
30:40fashion,
30:41but neither,
30:43as well as that throw
30:44to the trash,
30:45well no,
30:45TRUE?
30:47And then,
30:48What's going to happen?
30:49It starts to grow
30:50self-esteem
30:51and the relationship
30:53changes.
30:56It began
30:56through understanding
30:58that has to give
30:59a heart
31:00who forgives,
31:01Because of course
31:02that at the moment
31:03in which the other person
31:04He answers you rudely,
31:05TRUE?
31:05He's reacting.
31:06And then
31:08He answers me rudely,
31:09he yells at me,
31:10Why are you telling me that?
31:12Oh,
31:13me too,
31:13and sometimes
31:15we got hooked,
31:16You know what?
31:16And you're done for.
31:18TRUE?
31:18The demon
31:19He's going to pull it out there.
31:21How many times
31:22Do I have to tell you?
31:24As many as you need,
31:26until it changes.
31:29But like today
31:30the boys
31:30They have little patience,
31:33Well then,
31:34quickly,
31:35the process begins
31:36of destruction.
31:38Instead of entering
31:39in a process
31:40review,
31:42not of destruction.
31:44Why is this happening?
31:46Why her
31:47This is how you respond to me?
31:48Or why
31:49I answer
31:50In this way?
31:52Love is
31:53comprehension.
31:55Love is
31:55comprehensive.
31:57Love
31:57It does not save
31:59rancor
31:59to the other person.
32:02If you
32:03they notice,
32:04in chapter 23,
32:05in verse
32:0634 of Saint Luke,
32:08Let's see
32:10the great love
32:10of God,
32:11the great love
32:12of Jesus
32:12in an expression
32:14which is human.
32:17Jesus
32:17is being
32:18crucified
32:19and says,
32:22Father,
32:24forgive them
32:25because they don't know
32:27what they do.
32:31Jesus loves
32:33and excuse
32:34and understand,
32:35Try to understand.
32:37There is a text
32:38whether they are still
32:40there in Corinth,
32:42if they didn't go right now
32:43to this appointment
32:44from Luke 23,
32:45in chapter 2,
32:50in verse 8
32:51of the first
32:51letter to the Corinthians,
32:52It says the following,
32:53This is already a
32:54late reflection
32:55of the church
32:56in Paul.
32:58It says in verse 8,
33:01This is something
33:02that they haven't understood
33:03the rulers
33:04of the present world,
33:06Well, if they had
33:06understood,
33:08there would not have been
33:08crucified
33:09to the Lord
33:09of glory.
33:10Because
33:13crucified
33:14to Christ?
33:15Because they were
33:15really mean.
33:18No.
33:20If you
33:21They read carefully
33:22the Gospel
33:23of San Juan,
33:24they will find
33:25that the cause
33:26real
33:27of the crucifixion
33:28of Christ
33:29It's because
33:30Christ
33:30God becomes,
33:32it is presented
33:33like God.
33:35In different
33:36parts
33:37of the Gospel
33:38Jesus says,
33:39I am
33:40which in Hebrew
33:42would sound
33:42Yahweh.
33:45This,
33:46well it was
33:46an offense
33:47awful,
33:48that's how it had been
33:48instructed.
33:50Look
33:51Saint Paul.
33:53Saint Paul,
33:54a man
33:54tremendously
33:55religious,
33:56loved
33:57terribly
33:59bye bye,
33:59tremendously
34:01He loved God.
34:03And why?
34:04pursued
34:05To Christians?
34:07Because he's mean?
34:08Why were they falling on them?
34:09evil?
34:09No,
34:10because he
34:11thought,
34:12according to the criteria,
34:13the cliché
34:13that had
34:14in the head,
34:15he thought
34:16that the Christians
34:17They were bad vibes,
34:19that were
34:19destroying
34:20Judaism,
34:21that much
34:21He loved.
34:23And then
34:24He is pursuing them,
34:25until?
34:26It is found
34:27with Christ
34:28and says to him,
34:28Why me
34:29Are you chasing?
34:30Ah, Chihuahuas,
34:31Don't you
34:31am I pursuing?
34:32Yeah,
34:33me,
34:34to Yahweh,
34:35to God
34:35that you love,
34:36is the one who
34:36You're chasing.
34:37Oh, Carlitos,
34:38backwards
34:39The fielders!
34:44Father,
34:45Forgive them,
34:47they don't know
34:48what they are
34:49doing.
34:51Many of
34:51our reactions,
34:52siblings,
34:53They are instinctive,
34:54because that's how
34:57went
34:58conditional
34:59in many areas
35:00of our lives.
35:02This,
35:02when we live
35:03in community,
35:04because we say
35:05This chapter 18,
35:07It speaks of the community.
35:10Many things,
35:11some of you
35:12have had
35:13some encounter
35:14close to me,
35:15No?
35:15Because?
35:21Because that's how it is
35:21He was instructed.
35:24I mean,
35:24I had a father
35:25very straight,
35:26very firm,
35:27very energetic,
35:28TRUE?
35:29Where there was no
35:30lots of jokes
35:31walking
35:32out.
35:33I mean,
35:33the line
35:34for which I had
35:35that walk
35:35It was quite
35:36narrow,
35:37There wasn't much
35:37joke
35:38to band.
35:40So
35:40I grew up.
35:43Obviously,
35:44after
35:44of many years
35:46of this training,
35:48That's just how I am.
35:51And then
35:52arrives
35:52the point,
35:54when in another parish,
35:55when it began
35:55my ministry,
35:57yes
35:57when they brought me,
35:59They placed the offerings for me
36:00on the altar,
36:01instead of putting it
36:02exactly
36:03about a place,
36:04They put her in another one,
36:06I used to be violent towards myself,
36:07TRUE?
36:08Me too,
36:09although maybe
36:10He said nothing,
36:10but they lined up for me
36:11the eyes
36:12and the mouth
36:12and all,
36:13and the poor
36:14horrified ministers
36:16and no longer,
36:16that?
36:20Does he hate us?
36:21Or what?
36:21No.
36:23It's a reaction
36:24natural,
36:25because if this
36:26would have happened
36:26at my place,
36:27Well, that would have been it.
36:28the reaction,
36:29and then I
36:29immediately,
36:30and so that there would be no
36:31reactions,
36:32Well, things always...
36:33they have to be
36:33exactly
36:34where they should be.
36:35My dad used to say,
36:37each thing
36:37instead,
36:39And that's what I meant
36:40instead,
36:43Yeah?
36:44Not close.
36:46from the place,
36:47No,
36:50instead,
36:53And then I go
36:54growing
36:55as if
36:56out of a puzzle,
36:58each piece
36:59has a place,
37:00nothing more than that,
37:01It has to be there.
37:02What's happening
37:04so
37:05in the reaction
37:05of the community?
37:09No,
37:09the father
37:10It says this
37:10and the other
37:11and it's going to fall
37:12and it's going to fall
37:12and it's going to fall
37:12and it's going to fall
37:12and it's going to fall
37:13and it's going to fall
37:14That's normal.
37:16and then
37:17silk
37:17the confrontation
37:18within the community
37:19and the father.
37:23But,
37:24to the extent
37:24in which you get to know
37:25that the father
37:26only reacts
37:27So,
37:28in these matters,
37:30Then you say,
37:30Ah,
37:31I think
37:31which is due to their training
37:33and then
37:34He wants to be bad.
37:35when he is energetic,
37:37No,
37:38when it is ordered,
37:39No,
37:40when he gets angry
37:41because they are not
37:42things in order,
37:43It's bad.
37:44No,
37:44is orderly
37:45and these reactions
37:46they come from within
37:49and then
37:50what has he done
37:50my community
37:51along
37:52of these 23 years
37:53help me
37:55to begin to understand
37:56what I now understand
37:57with great clarity
37:58and that 23 years ago
38:00I did not understand
38:01why was he reacting?
38:02So
38:02and then
38:03now when
38:04It puts me on
38:04crooked
38:05immediately
38:06The impulse is coming,
38:07That one hasn't been removed.
38:08but then
38:10I'm in control
38:11and then
38:12little by little
38:13inside
38:14Peace is coming.
38:15because?
38:16because there has been
38:17a community
38:18who loves me
38:18because there has been
38:19a community
38:20who corrects me
38:21we were saying last week
38:22pass
38:23You see that your brother
38:25freckle
38:25and it bristles
38:26and it starts
38:27the mustache
38:27well
38:28help him
38:30Don't leave it
38:31So
38:32if really
38:33You love him
38:34this that I put
38:37at the community level
38:38and using myself as an example
38:39in the community
38:40It's the same
38:41what's happening
38:42in the small
38:42communities
38:43of the house
38:44these reactions
38:46and these forms
38:47of being
38:47they manifest
38:49among us
38:51in all
38:52the areas
38:54of our life
38:54love
38:56is understanding
38:58love
38:59it does not carry
38:59accounts of evil
39:00Ah, last time
39:02He pulled at his mustache
39:02No, it doesn't have
39:03accounts of evil
39:04understands
39:05father
39:06forgive them
39:08look at the poor man
39:09Pablito
39:10Chivas
39:10He loves you so much
39:11and as it gives us
39:13with kicks
39:13poor thing
39:16Pablito
39:16I had an idea
39:17completely
39:18wrong
39:19still
39:20of what it was
39:20redemption
39:21And that's what happens to us.
39:22above all
39:25the boys
39:26that sometimes
39:27They don't understand
39:27to the parents
39:28well
39:30the thing is
39:32we would have to see
39:33a bit
39:34backward
39:34of life
39:35from my parents
39:36that we don't know
39:37because life
39:38that we know
39:39These are lives
39:40today
39:40from our parents
39:41you
39:42the community
39:43of the Holy Cross
39:43they know
39:44to a father
39:45Ernesto
39:45different
39:46and those who go
39:48arriving
39:48to the community
39:49in recent years
39:50a different one
39:51from when he arrived
39:52because the community
39:54it shapes us
39:56It's helping us
39:57in love
39:57and then
39:59we are changing
40:00and it is generated
40:02a true relationship
40:03of love
40:04which is what
40:05Chapter 18
40:06Matthew's
40:07tries to propose
40:09a love
40:10in which you are interested
40:11that the father
40:12change
40:12that it is not so
40:13how is
40:14because it's bad for him
40:15We'll have it in a little while
40:16what to do
40:17a cooperation
40:17to replace his liver
40:18probably
40:20We saved ourselves that.
40:21and so?
40:22We'd better not put it on.
40:23elsewhere
40:24But we have to help him
40:26for this to change
40:27and this requires
40:29of forgiveness
40:30of the understanding
40:32of love
40:33And this cannot happen
40:36my beloved brothers
40:37if we don't have
40:38if we don't have
40:40relationship with God
40:42we have insisted
40:44to the point of satiety
40:46about the text
40:47of Romans
40:485.5
40:49God
40:51has spilled
40:52his love
40:53in our hearts
40:54that so much love
40:57That's the point.
41:01that interests me so much
41:03for my brothers
41:04It depends on how much love
41:06how much I am capable of
41:08to understand
41:08and forgive
41:09to my husband
41:10to my husband
41:10to my children
41:11to my parents
41:12to the others
41:12that much
41:13well, that's it
41:14my beloved brothers
41:15It only depends
41:16of the amount
41:18of love
41:19that God has placed
41:19in your hearts
41:20And that's why
41:23I'm coming back again
41:24to the insistence
41:25of the spiritual life
41:26the problem
41:28of marriages
41:29today
41:29It's because they don't pray
41:30They don't go to mass
41:32They do not confess
41:34They do not take communion
41:35They are not related
41:36with God
41:37and the only source
41:40of God's love
41:41as we have repeated
41:42so many times
41:43is God
41:44Juan
41:45her first letter
41:46in chapter 4
41:47verse 8
41:48says
41:48God is love
41:49and while you
41:50Don't allow it
41:51bye
41:51enter completely
41:53to your life
41:54you're going to be
41:55a person
41:56destructive
41:57of society
41:57because you're not even leaving
41:59to be of interest
42:01thanks for helping
42:01to your brothers
42:02to get ahead
42:03nor
42:05You'll be interested
42:05forgive
42:06to the one who offended you
42:07And don't say anything else.
42:08three or four or five
42:09sometimes
42:10short fuse
42:11You've reached this point
42:12and don't turn back
42:13to bring them closer
42:14the Christian life
42:19siblings
42:20This is not it
42:21It's not the community
42:24It is not the assembly
42:26in my high school
42:29and in
42:29Well, I think up to secondary school.
42:31The topic arrived
42:31of the assemblies
42:33What are assemblies?
42:35Well, it's the meeting
42:36of all students
42:37from the school
42:37And that means
42:39Are they brothers?
42:40No
42:41And that means
42:41that I love them?
42:42No
42:42simply
42:43It's the people
42:44who goes to that school
42:45and that we met
42:46once
42:46in X time
42:47to do honors
42:48to the flag
42:49or whatever
42:50This is an assembly
42:52This is where we meet
42:54to pray
42:55This is where we meet
42:56to know God
42:57to charge the batteries
43:00but the Christian community
43:03at the time it leaves
43:05of this temple
43:06It remains
43:06Christian community
43:07when I go out
43:09of this temple
43:10my wife and I
43:11We are a Christian community
43:13and we love each other
43:15the Christian life
43:17It has to do with
43:18with love
43:19because life
43:20It has to do with
43:21with love
43:21It has to do with
43:22with love
43:23at my place
43:24That's where
43:25I am a Christian
43:26with people
43:28from my work
43:29with people
43:30of my company
43:30with people
43:31from my school
43:32I am a Christian there.
43:33And this is
43:36what differentiates
43:37Christianity
43:38of all the others
43:39religions
43:40and all the others
43:41philosophies
43:42But if we don't have
43:44prayer
43:45if we don't dedicate
43:48enough time
43:49upon contact
43:51with God
43:51so that God
43:52become impregnated
43:53in our soul
43:54siblings
43:55we never go
43:57to forgive no one
43:58we never go
44:01to take
44:01a relationship
44:02full
44:03perfect
44:04in our relationship
44:04family
44:05and well, let's just say
44:07family
44:07in the community
44:09much less
44:10a community
44:12who does not pray
44:13It is a community
44:14selfish
44:15a man
44:17that does not have
44:17contact
44:18with God
44:19It will always be
44:20victim
44:20of his passions
44:21and obviously
44:23That will take him
44:24to destroy
44:25any kind
44:26relationship
44:27that achieves
44:28establish
44:28with the others
44:29I insist
44:31one more time
44:32siblings
44:33pray
44:34have
44:37spiritual life
44:38the chapter
44:4018
44:41throughout
44:42what we read
44:43not even once
44:44mentions
44:44the word
44:45love
44:46and yet
44:48substratum
44:49what is
44:50behind
44:51of everything
44:51this chapter
44:5218
44:53that has
44:53what to see
44:53with the
44:54community
44:54It is love
44:56because this
44:57It's the engine
44:58of all
44:59relationship
44:59human
45:01Let's look
45:02increase
45:04in our life
45:04spiritual life
45:05so that all
45:07our relationships
45:08can continue
45:09walking
45:10towards perfection
45:11let's have
45:12a capacity
45:12unlimited
45:15to forgive
45:15and let's have
45:17a great interest
45:18for salvation
45:19of the brothers
45:20praised be
45:21Christ
45:21a great interest
45:23and
45:24to
45:24a great interest
45:25of the brothers
45:26so that all
45:27ace
45:28the
45:28mothers
45:29of the brothers
45:31and
45:32to
45:33the
45:33is
45:35to
45:35the
45:35is
45:36that
45:37is going to
45:38the
45:39the
45:39the
45:40the
45:44and
45:45to
45:46the
45:46the
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