Día 2 Voy a prepararles un lugar - Padre Ernesto Caro - Vídeo Dailymotion

Evangelizacion Activa

Ver Día 2 Voy a prepararles un lugar - Padre Ernesto Caro - Evangelizacion Activa en Dailymotion

Transcript

00:00:00Subscribe to the channel!

00:00:30Subscribe to the channel!

00:01:00A project that began in Genesis, where we are presented with these visions of man made of earth, who comes out of the wound of the earth, and is now placed in this fantastic, wonderful place, which is the Garden of Eden,

00:01:18which comes to present to us in figure, with these images that our friend already saw, perhaps three thousand years ago, I don't know, already drew, already foretold God in this marvelous revelation,

00:01:35This wonderful place where we are all going to live, that place to which we are destined.

00:01:41And all this is founded on this love of God, which with the coming of Jesus, and through which He has sent the Holy Spirit,

00:01:49Therefore, develop this love within us so that even in this world we may experience these first fruits, these earnest gifts, as Saint Paul says,

00:01:59of what our life will be like up there in heaven, a wonderful project that completely surpasses anything we could have imagined,

00:02:09And that is why, as the apostle says, in Philippians, "For to me, to live is Christ, and everything else is gain; even to die is gain."

00:02:21On the other hand, it invites us to aspire to heavenly things, and not be so caught up in this immanence.

00:02:28that keeps us, sometimes, absorbed, and does not allow us to contemplate what for us will be perfect happiness.

00:02:38But we also saw that this project of love finds an antithesis,

00:02:43an enemy that continually fights the project, the demon, which seeks through its seduction,

00:02:52to make us see this land as a paradise, a place where we can fully enjoy ourselves,

00:02:58without realizing that, however much we might enjoy ourselves here, for a few years,

00:03:05One hundred years, which compared to eternity, are simply nothing.

00:03:09So, we need to be vigilant, right? I made this point with this reflection, just to make it clear.

00:03:16which is not as some theologians or some priests propose, that the devil does not exist.

00:03:23that hell does not exist, and that finally, as I proposed at the beginning of this reflection,

00:03:28Because God is so loving, He loves us so much, He has destined this place for us,

00:03:32Whatever we do, whatever we decide, our destiny will inevitably be heaven.

00:03:40That's not true.

00:03:42There was, there is a very clear text in the Gospel of Matthew, which we saw yesterday, chapter 25,

00:03:50Starting from verse 31, where we talk about this moment of separation,

00:03:55which we also tried to clarify yesterday, that it is not exactly a trial,

00:04:00but it is a decision that we have made, to abandon love.

00:04:05"Because you did not love me," says Jesus.

00:04:07You did not love me in the poor, you did not love me in those who were hungry,

00:04:11those who were cold, the prisoners, those in hospitals,

00:04:15You didn't love me, love didn't develop in you.

00:04:18You decided to condemn yourself, you decided to separate yourself from me.

00:04:22And this separation, at the end of our lives, becomes eternity.

00:04:27There is a division.

00:04:29Some of us will go to enjoy eternal joy with God in heaven,

00:04:34And others, unfortunately, will have decided, personally,

00:04:39to live far from Him, as they lived in this, we could almost say,

00:04:44Rehearsal for heaven, or rehearsal for hell.

00:04:49So, we also tried yesterday to clarify this situation.

00:04:54to avoid creating expectations that are not true.

00:04:58We must remain in grace,

00:05:01We must aspire to eternal goods, as Paul says,

00:05:04and in this way, then, to seek that our life,

00:05:08be filled with enough love, because that's what it's all about.

00:05:11so that we may freely enter and enjoy eternity with Christ.

00:05:17In this second topic, we are going to talk, now for real, about heaven.

00:05:21Jesus says, in the Gospel of John, in chapter 14, verse 2,

00:05:27He says, "I'm going to prepare a place for you in my father's house."

00:05:32Again, here, then, I will try, to the best of my limited ability,

00:05:39To explain what I understand, I will use Mari Neal's help.

00:05:44to try, then, to understand and be more moved each time,

00:05:49Given this reality, but always, whatever, whatever reflection I make,

00:05:54It will always fall short, therefore.

00:05:56And I ask the Spirit to fill you,

00:06:00so that, despite my inability,

00:06:04may you come to have a great, wonderful vision,

00:06:08that encourages them to always seek to participate,

00:06:12to participate in heaven.

00:06:15I want, then, to propose to you,

00:06:18from Scripture,

00:06:19what God has revealed to us,

00:06:22and thus be able to understand,

00:06:25even if only partially,

00:06:27As I was saying earlier, partial, veiled,

00:06:29what we expect from heaven.

00:06:33As I was saying earlier,

00:06:34We'll expand on it a little with experience,

00:06:37TRUE?

00:06:37We were saying this SM,

00:06:39as we identify it by its acronym,

00:06:43a near-death experience,

00:06:45who are all those who have died,

00:06:48who have been clinically declared dead,

00:06:51We were talking about this Mary Neal,

00:06:54who was, therefore,

00:06:55dead for practically half an hour,

00:06:57That is, already with brain damage,

00:06:59In short, everything that,

00:07:00after half an hour without oxygen,

00:07:02recent, then, our brain,

00:07:05She returns to tell us

00:07:06the experience he had

00:07:08had he died,

00:07:09really dead,

00:07:11as happened, for example, to Lazarus,

00:07:14that Lazarus was not there for half an hour,

00:07:17Lazarus was in the tomb for three days,

00:07:20TRUE?

00:07:20He says, it already smells,

00:07:22TRUE?

00:07:24I mean, I know,

00:07:25It's already spoiled.

00:07:27It already smells.

00:07:28So,

00:07:29So,

00:07:30well,

00:07:31God has allowed some people,

00:07:33like Lazarus,

00:07:34and so many others,

00:07:35TRUE?

00:07:36May they return to life,

00:07:37to tell us about Lazarus,

00:07:39well,

00:07:40No,

00:07:40We don't know about their experience,

00:07:42near death,

00:07:44But we have many testimonies,

00:07:46I was telling you yesterday,

00:07:47from Juan Préstamo,

00:07:49whom I had,

00:07:50well,

00:07:50the pleasure of meeting a man of God,

00:07:53that,

00:07:53well,

00:07:54was,

00:07:55died,

00:07:55He was dead for fifteen minutes,

00:07:57and then,

00:07:58He returned to tell us about his experience,

00:08:00experience,

00:08:01truly wonderful,

00:08:03the one that counts,

00:08:03also,

00:08:04I will take some elements,

00:08:06from experience,

00:08:07also,

00:08:08of,

00:08:08from Juan,

00:08:09but,

00:08:10we will base more,

00:08:11in this text that we have,

00:08:12Hey,

00:08:13spoken,

00:08:14of,

00:08:15Mari,

00:08:16Neil.

00:08:18The first thing we have here,

00:08:20well,

00:08:20It's always a,

00:08:22I had to choose,

00:08:23Where to begin?

00:08:24No?

00:08:25I mean,

00:08:25No,

00:08:26No,

00:08:26It's not very organized,

00:08:28maybe,

00:08:29what I'm going to,

00:08:29to begin listing,

00:08:31I'm going to start taking some tickets,

00:08:33from Sacred Scripture,

00:08:35and about those passages,

00:08:36well,

00:08:36I'll try,

00:08:37of explaining,

00:08:38maybe,

00:08:39I realized yesterday,

00:08:40But I didn't have time today.

00:08:41of,

00:08:42rearrange,

00:08:43maybe,

00:08:43What I'm going to say at the end,

00:08:44which is heaven,

00:08:45properly,

00:08:46how the sky looks,

00:08:47because it's taken,

00:08:48directly,

00:08:49of the Apocalypse,

00:08:50well,

00:08:50It seemed to me,

00:08:52at first,

00:08:52more importantly,

00:08:53Or more interestingly,

00:08:54start from experiences,

00:08:56of the apostles,

00:08:57with the risen Jesus,

00:08:58but perhaps,

00:08:59I should have started,

00:09:00Speaking of heaven,

00:09:01oh well,

00:09:02So,

00:09:02the important thing,

00:09:04is that each passage,

00:09:05each element,

00:09:06It has its beauty,

00:09:07It has its meaning,

00:09:09and all this,

00:09:10well,

00:09:10on the whole,

00:09:10you already,

00:09:11when they review their notes,

00:09:13when they enter into prayer,

00:09:15when,

00:09:15well,

00:09:16ask,

00:09:16invoke the Holy Spirit,

00:09:17surely,

00:09:18that He,

00:09:18He will give them orders,

00:09:20And I'm sure,

00:09:21which happens to me,

00:09:22I have a very clear idea,

00:09:24Well,

00:09:24as far as humanly possible,

00:09:25I can do it,

00:09:26of what awaits me,

00:09:28in the sky,

00:09:29And that's why the longing,

00:09:30And that's why I want it,

00:09:31with one,

00:09:32with a burning,

00:09:33that,

00:09:33As I was saying,

00:09:34I mean,

00:09:35If I had to choose,

00:09:36If the Lord were to tell me,

00:09:37Do you want to leave?

00:09:39Wow,

00:09:40well,

00:09:40says Saint Paul,

00:09:41She made it difficult for me,

00:09:42TRUE?

00:09:42Says,

00:09:43on the one hand,

00:09:43I long to be with Christ.

00:09:44and enjoy Him,

00:09:45but,

00:09:46on the other hand,

00:09:47I see,

00:09:47the enormous task,

00:09:49what's here,

00:09:49say,

00:09:50Oh,

00:09:50Carlitos,

00:09:51says Pablo,

00:09:52I don't know what to choose,

00:09:54but,

00:09:55says,

00:09:55in the end,

00:09:57But I am convinced,

00:09:59that it's not my time,

00:10:00and that I will still continue among you,

00:10:02because of work,

00:10:03It is urgent for us,

00:10:05The first thing we have to accept,

00:10:07the thing is,

00:10:08the reality of heaven,

00:10:09It's something,

00:10:09to begin with,

00:10:11no one has seen,

00:10:12nor has he lived,

00:10:13and has returned,

00:10:14to tell the tale,

00:10:16everything we go,

00:10:17that is to say,

00:10:18from the experiences,

00:10:19near death,

00:10:20They are related,

00:10:21precisely,

00:10:22with this,

00:10:24well,

00:10:24path,

00:10:25towards eternity,

00:10:26where they arrive,

00:10:28to a door,

00:10:29where the river,

00:10:30He does not allow them to pass,

00:10:32where there is a wall,

00:10:34in the end,

00:10:35There are different elements,

00:10:37that do not allow,

00:10:38still enter heaven,

00:10:39And it is then,

00:10:40when people return,

00:10:42the sky,

00:10:43in itself,

00:10:43only knows him,

00:10:45Christ,

00:10:46who has come,

00:10:48TRUE,

00:10:48That's why he says,

00:10:49only,

00:10:51well,

00:10:51He knows him,

00:10:52the father,

00:10:53and the son,

00:10:54and,

00:10:55well,

00:10:55to whom the son,

00:10:56He wants to reveal it to her,

00:10:58so,

00:10:59we don't have,

00:10:59an idea,

00:11:00crystal clear,

00:11:02from this,

00:11:03only,

00:11:04what the apostles,

00:11:05They lived,

00:11:06they saw,

00:11:07They played,

00:11:08experienced,

00:11:08after the resurrection,

00:11:10of the Lord,

00:11:10that's why,

00:11:12all we can say,

00:11:14This will be the case,

00:11:15only an approximation,

00:11:17a resemblance,

00:11:19and in any case,

00:11:20a speculation,

00:11:21TRUE,

00:11:22already,

00:11:23Here from your servant,

00:11:24TRUE,

00:11:24I mean,

00:11:25believe,

00:11:25It seems to me,

00:11:27according to,

00:11:27following these,

00:11:28these clues,

00:11:29It seems to me,

00:11:30that we could generate,

00:11:31This scenario,

00:11:32Excuse me,

00:11:33If I'm wrong,

00:11:34when they get to heaven,

00:11:35say,

00:11:35Oh,

00:11:36Father,

00:11:36You were really bad,

00:11:37TRUE,

00:11:39but,

00:11:39as I am sure,

00:11:40that it will be so,

00:11:41Because me too,

00:11:41me,

00:11:42I'll fall far short,

00:11:43And I will say,

00:11:44Oh,

00:11:44Carlitos,

00:11:45TRUE,

00:11:48Imagine,

00:11:49When I think about this,

00:11:50I think about,

00:11:51in Saint Thomas,

00:11:52No,

00:11:53our theologian,

00:11:54more fantastic,

00:11:55more wonderful,

00:11:56He wrote a theological summa,

00:11:57awesome,

00:11:59when he finishes writing it,

00:12:03the Lord,

00:12:03He appears to him,

00:12:04is called,

00:12:05the mystical experience,

00:12:06of Saint Thomas,

00:12:07He appears to him,

00:12:08the Lord to Thomas,

00:12:09and says to him,

00:12:10Thomas,

00:12:11You have spoken,

00:12:12very good of me,

00:12:13What do you want me to do?

00:12:15and says to him,

00:12:17I want to know you, Lord.

00:12:20Saint Thomas tells him,

00:12:22and well,

00:12:23for the Lord,

00:12:24He grants her what she asked for,

00:12:26to meet him,

00:12:28when he leaves,

00:12:29Saint Thomas,

00:12:30of ecstasy,

00:12:31He's driving like a madman.

00:12:32in a hurry,

00:12:33to find all his papers,

00:12:34and wanted to burn them all,

00:12:38wanted to burn

00:12:39the theological summa,

00:12:41says,

00:12:42This is not it,

00:12:43This is not it,

00:12:46the theological summa,

00:12:48This is not it,

00:12:50so,

00:12:50I'm sure,

00:12:51that,

00:12:51No matter what I tell them,

00:12:52no matter how much you,

00:12:53as you can imagine,

00:12:55Well, he says,

00:12:56He cannot come.

00:12:56nor to the mind of man,

00:12:57No,

00:12:58so,

00:12:59Well,

00:12:59Well, I'm probably wrong.

00:13:00But hopefully it will be enough.

00:13:02tell it,

00:13:03to motivate them,

00:13:04and excite them,

00:13:05Yeah,

00:13:06so that we await death,

00:13:07with peace,

00:13:08with joy,

00:13:08and above all,

00:13:10so that we can comfort,

00:13:13to the others,

00:13:15especially the people,

00:13:16as we get older,

00:13:17a little more beetroot,

00:13:20say,

00:13:20wiser,

00:13:21TRUE?

00:13:23We started to get scared,

00:13:24I just came from celebrating,

00:13:26the anniversary,

00:13:27from a good friend,

00:13:28who died a month ago,

00:13:31and on the way out,

00:13:31A lady tells me,

00:13:32Because, well,

00:13:33I tell them that I am,

00:13:34imbued right now,

00:13:35from this,

00:13:36No?

00:13:36And so it was,

00:13:38to talk about death,

00:13:39No?

00:13:39And a lady tells me,

00:13:41already,

00:13:42getting older,

00:13:43he tells me,

00:13:43father,

00:13:45I was terrified,

00:13:47to die,

00:13:48but then,

00:13:49Regarding what you said,

00:13:51I feel very peaceful,

00:13:52wait peacefully,

00:13:56that door that opens,

00:13:58towards eternity,

00:13:59No?

00:13:59So,

00:14:00Let this be of use to us,

00:14:01so that we,

00:14:02first,

00:14:03Let's look for it,

00:14:03and we long for it,

00:14:04TRUE?

00:14:05living in God's love,

00:14:06second,

00:14:07so that we can comfort,

00:14:09and encourage,

00:14:10those who,

00:14:12perhaps close,

00:14:12to death,

00:14:14or relatives,

00:14:15of one,

00:14:16who has already left for home,

00:14:17the father,

00:14:18we can encourage him,

00:14:20and that I may,

00:14:21As I was saying today,

00:14:22in this,

00:14:22On this anniversary,

00:14:24I was telling them,

00:14:25so that you,

00:14:26ask the Lord,

00:14:27whoever grants them,

00:14:28as we will see on Thursday,

00:14:30TRUE?

00:14:30where the sky,

00:14:30and the earth unite,

00:14:32so that we can,

00:14:34can,

00:14:35somehow,

00:14:36in dreams,

00:14:36or in other words,

00:14:37that God foresees,

00:14:38to be certain,

00:14:40that our loved one,

00:14:42He's already enjoying it,

00:14:43of this wonder,

00:14:44which we will discuss today,

00:14:45imperfectly,

00:14:46to speak,

00:14:47No?

00:14:47so,

00:14:49It's speculation,

00:14:50that comes from,

00:14:50of the tracks,

00:14:51that Jesus left us,

00:14:53in the gospels,

00:14:55in the writings,

00:14:55from Paul,

00:14:56of the apostles,

00:14:57in general,

00:14:58and in a way,

00:14:59very punctual,

00:15:00in the apocalypse,

00:15:02certainly,

00:15:03everything is,

00:15:05Hey,

00:15:05all this,

00:15:06Hey,

00:15:06presents,

00:15:08well,

00:15:08categories,

00:15:09in the concepts,

00:15:10that we know,

00:15:12I mean,

00:15:13how to talk about heaven,

00:15:14Well, I have to talk.

00:15:15of things I know,

00:15:16you know,

00:15:18which is a,

00:15:18bril,

00:15:18traps,

00:15:19tan bush,

00:15:21No, really.

00:15:21I don't know either.

00:15:24but like that,

00:15:24would have to be expressed,

00:15:25someone who went to heaven,

00:15:27because it is something,

00:15:30which does not exist,

00:15:31that has not been seen,

00:15:32so,

00:15:32I have to use,

00:15:33the expressions,

00:15:35is called,

00:15:36in philosophy,

00:15:37the categories,

00:15:38that we know,

00:15:40I saw a glass,

00:15:40and it was a glass,

00:15:44wow,

00:15:45Well, it was like a glass,

00:15:47and that it was,

00:15:50Well, how can I explain it?

00:15:53so,

00:15:54Let's try,

00:15:56to enter,

00:15:56in this process,

00:15:57of the categories,

00:15:58human,

00:15:59of things,

00:16:00that we know,

00:16:01and that we can refer to,

00:16:03Because, as it says,

00:16:04the apostle Paul,

00:16:05the date I've been on,

00:16:06this,

00:16:07mentioning,

00:16:08First Corinthians,

00:16:092,

00:16:09things to watch out for,

00:16:12boyfriend,

00:16:13I haven't heard of it,

00:16:15They haven't even entered,

00:16:15to the heart of man,

00:16:17That's just how things are.

00:16:18that God has prepared,

00:16:19for those who love him,

00:16:21what is it,

00:16:22Well, we'll find out.

00:16:23when we arrive,

00:16:23No,

00:16:24We'll talk then,

00:16:25of what not even,

00:16:26we can understand,

00:16:28This is terrible!

00:16:30to talk about things,

00:16:31which I cannot understand,

00:16:35but that,

00:16:36with God's grace,

00:16:38and the help of the Holy Spirit,

00:16:39and the help of the Holy Spirit,

00:16:40surely,

00:16:41we will be able to

00:16:42grasp,

00:16:43approach,

00:16:44at least,

00:16:45to this,

00:16:46wonderful mystery,

00:16:47which we call,

00:16:48heaven and eternity,

00:16:51With all this,

00:16:52I want to fascinate them,

00:16:54so that we may yearn,

00:16:55whole-heartedly,

00:16:56to be able to participate,

00:16:58of the new house,

00:16:59my parents used to say,

00:17:02when,

00:17:03when,

00:17:03Hey,

00:17:04they bought,

00:17:05Well,

00:17:06It was given as a gift,

00:17:06Father David,

00:17:08a,

00:17:08a niche,

00:17:09when I was there in El Carmen,

00:17:11And when I arrived,

00:17:12with the scriptures,

00:17:13of the,

00:17:14of the niche,

00:17:15my parents,

00:17:16they said,

00:17:17Let's get to know each other,

00:17:18our new home,

00:17:19Let's get to know each other,

00:17:22our new home,

00:17:24I have always been left with,

00:17:25the idea of heaven,

00:17:25like the new house,

00:17:26No,

00:17:27the house we will live in,

00:17:29eternally,

00:17:30where the Lord,

00:17:31has gone to prepare us,

00:17:32a place,

00:17:34That is a wonderful place,

00:17:36that Jesus,

00:17:36has gone to prepare us,

00:17:38And this is a promise,

00:17:40fundamental,

00:17:41for the Christian,

00:17:44It says in John 14,

00:17:4512,

00:17:46the full text,

00:17:47And look,

00:17:48in what important,

00:17:49This is this text,

00:17:50says,

00:17:51in my father's house,

00:17:52There are many dwellings,

00:17:53many dwellings,

00:17:55What are you talking about?

00:17:56dwellings,

00:17:56that we understand,

00:17:57by dwellings,

00:17:59houses,

00:18:00TRUE,

00:18:00dwellings,

00:18:01place where one lives,

00:18:02There are many dwellings,

00:18:03that is to say,

00:18:04It's not that we're going to live,

00:18:05So,

00:18:06suddenly we have the idea,

00:18:07that the sky,

00:18:08That's how it is,

00:18:09or like,

00:18:10like a plain,

00:18:11and where everyone is,

00:18:12there,

00:18:13and there is nothing,

00:18:14more than us,

00:18:16and the souls there,

00:18:17floating,

00:18:17in the clouds,

00:18:18No,

00:18:19speaks of a dwelling,

00:18:23houses,

00:18:24We'll see in a bit.

00:18:25in the experience of María Anil,

00:18:26what she can see,

00:18:29If that were not the case,

00:18:30I would have told them,

00:18:31because I'm going to prepare,

00:18:33a place for you,

00:18:35a place,

00:18:36space,

00:18:37space,

00:18:38time,

00:18:38a place,

00:18:39for you,

00:18:39And if I'm going to prepare,

00:18:42a place for you,

00:18:43I will come again,

00:18:45and I will take them with me,

00:18:47so that where,

00:18:49And look,

00:18:50I hadn't seen this before.

00:18:51and I've been through this appointment,

00:18:53I don't know how many times,

00:18:55the tense of the verb,

00:18:57Check this out,

00:18:58so that where I am,

00:19:01is in what time?

00:19:05so that where I am,

00:19:07There they are,

00:19:09be there too,

00:19:10that is to say,

00:19:12How can he say it?

00:19:14himself,

00:19:14TRUE,

00:19:15He never left heaven,

00:19:17great mystery of the Trinity,

00:19:19so that where I am,

00:19:21And where is he?

00:19:22He is in heaven,

00:19:22in that dimension,

00:19:23that we don't understand,

00:19:24we don't understand,

00:19:25but who is among us,

00:19:27so that where I am,

00:19:28are also,

00:19:30you,

00:19:30Let's begin,

00:19:35well,

00:19:35saying,

00:19:37that,

00:19:37the sky,

00:19:40It's not exactly,

00:19:42a place,

00:19:43but rather,

00:19:44one dimension,

00:19:46again,

00:19:47I enter into human categories,

00:19:49It is not either,

00:19:50one dimension,

00:19:51But somehow,

00:19:52we would have to understand,

00:19:54And for that,

00:19:55I'll manage,

00:19:57of,

00:19:57in order to understand,

00:19:58What are we talking about?

00:20:00I want to introduce you to,

00:20:03on one occasion,

00:20:04watching a program,

00:20:05by Carl Sagan,

00:20:07It caught my attention,

00:20:08an example,

00:20:09that he put,

00:20:10And for me,

00:20:10He has been very clear,

00:20:11now,

00:20:12on the subject,

00:20:13of,

00:20:14he,

00:20:15from the sky,

00:20:19I'm going to introduce you to,

00:20:20to Flatland,

00:20:24It's Flatland,

00:20:26It's Flatland,

00:20:27It only has,

00:20:28two dimensions,

00:20:29long,

00:20:30and wide,

00:20:32Yeah,

00:20:33And here it is,

00:20:35Maria,

00:20:37in Flatland,

00:20:39And there's José,

00:20:41in Flatland,

00:20:43help me a little bit,

00:20:49in order to be able to,

00:20:50put,

00:20:52that she sees it,

00:20:53stand over here,

00:20:54Yeah,

00:20:55very good,

00:20:56This is Flatland,

00:20:57This is a house,

00:20:58from Flatland,

00:21:00And here is José,

00:21:02And here is Maria,

00:21:04and,

00:21:04and well,

00:21:06well,

00:21:06Joseph and Mary,

00:21:07They move around the house,

00:21:10and,

00:21:10They go one way,

00:21:11for another,

00:21:12and,

00:21:12and well,

00:21:13and well,

00:21:13well,

00:21:14Here they are,

00:21:14and they are,

00:21:15in Flatland,

00:21:16only,

00:21:17they can move,

00:21:18in these two dimensions,

00:21:20and they manage to see it,

00:21:21If so,

00:21:22can they see this,

00:21:23No,

00:21:23Well,

00:21:24well,

00:21:26due to some situation,

00:21:28They were both there,

00:21:30in this room,

00:21:32from his little house,

00:21:33in Flatland,

00:21:34when,

00:21:35suddenly,

00:21:37José,

00:21:37disappears,

00:21:42from Mary's perspective,

00:21:44and Mary,

00:21:47Hey José,

00:21:48Where is José?

00:21:52José,

00:21:53Is it there now?

00:21:55Where is?

00:21:59Above,

00:22:00No?

00:22:02Now it is,

00:22:03above,

00:22:04So what happens?

00:22:05When is José upstairs?

00:22:07What can you see?

00:22:10You can see everything,

00:22:11see that Maria,

00:22:12He starts looking for it,

00:22:13in this room,

00:22:14and it passes to this one,

00:22:15and then it returns,

00:22:16and does not see Joseph,

00:22:18because it is,

00:22:20above,

00:22:22Yeah?

00:22:23Thank you.

00:22:25We have then,

00:22:28that Mary,

00:22:28he stayed,

00:22:29in Flatland,

00:22:31while,

00:22:32José,

00:22:33He's up here now,

00:22:35And what can you see?

00:22:38All,

00:22:38Flatland,

00:22:39You can see it,

00:22:42extends,

00:22:44to I don't know what place,

00:22:46And he can now see,

00:22:49all,

00:22:51Now he can see everything,

00:22:55Maria doesn't see it,

00:22:58and well,

00:22:58Finally, José,

00:23:00return to Flatland,

00:23:02It appears to him now,

00:23:05next to her,

00:23:07and then,

00:23:08he tells her,

00:23:09Maria,

00:23:10Where were you, José?

00:23:13Says,

00:23:15I was upstairs,

00:23:19above?

00:23:21What is up?

00:23:23Well, up you go!

00:23:24Was it upstairs?

00:23:25let's see,

00:23:28Point it out,

00:23:29Where is it up there?

00:23:34Where is it up there?

00:23:37And then,

00:23:39José goes back upstairs,

00:23:41and disappears again,

00:23:43from Mary's perspective,

00:23:44José doesn't need to now,

00:23:50of the doors,

00:23:51because he can now,

00:23:52lower,

00:23:54in another room,

00:23:57increase,

00:23:58and go down,

00:23:59in another room,

00:24:01And every time it goes up,

00:24:04go,

00:24:06all,

00:24:06It is in one dimension,

00:24:08different,

00:24:09one dimension,

00:24:10that in Flatland,

00:24:12It doesn't exist.

00:24:15It doesn't exist.

00:24:15the dimension,

00:24:17above,

00:24:19Jesus,

00:24:19disappears,

00:24:20of the sight,

00:24:21of his disciples,

00:24:24and then,

00:24:24They ask him,

00:24:25They ask him,

00:24:26Where were you?

00:24:27in the sky,

00:24:34Point it out,

00:24:37you can enter,

00:24:42and leave,

00:24:43of our dimensions,

00:24:44We move,

00:24:46in three dimensions,

00:24:47TRUE?

00:24:48But there is a fourth dimension,

00:24:51which is not a dimension,

00:24:52really,

00:24:53as is always meant,

00:24:55It is a state,

00:24:56because,

00:24:58in God,

00:24:59are,

00:25:00we exist,

00:25:02And we move,

00:25:03that is to say,

00:25:04there is no other dimension,

00:25:06There is another state,

00:25:07that,

00:25:08again,

00:25:09What I was saying earlier,

00:25:11for us,

00:25:12in our language,

00:25:13and in our categories,

00:25:15Let me call him,

00:25:17another dimension,

00:25:19one dimension,

00:25:20that we don't see,

00:25:21And why don't we see?

00:25:22because,

00:25:23We can't.

00:25:24find,

00:25:25like the people of Flatland,

00:25:28because he cannot know,

00:25:29what is it,

00:25:30the third dimension,

00:25:32he cannot say,

00:25:33It's upstairs,

00:25:34He cannot point up,

00:25:35because?

00:25:35because it's flat,

00:25:36It has two dimensions,

00:25:37nothing else,

00:25:39And that's why it appears,

00:25:41and disappears,

00:25:43Jesus,

00:25:45come in,

00:25:46of eternity,

00:25:47of this,

00:25:48of this state,

00:25:49and enter ours,

00:25:51and appears,

00:25:53and then,

00:25:54He's leaving.

00:25:56and disappears,

00:25:58And where is it?

00:26:02here,

00:26:04José,

00:26:05He never left,

00:26:06from Flatland,

00:26:09It was always there,

00:26:11I saw Maria,

00:26:12that was moving,

00:26:13on one side,

00:26:13and for another,

00:26:14It was always there,

00:26:15but he can't see it,

00:26:18Where are the angels?

00:26:23here,

00:26:24but we can't see them,

00:26:26Where is God?

00:26:28Well, here,

00:26:30But we can't see it.

00:26:32Where are our deceased?

00:26:34have they already gone to heaven?

00:26:37Well, here,

00:26:38but we can't see them,

00:26:39that is to say,

00:26:42never,

00:26:42we are alone,

00:26:46We're always there,

00:26:47in God's company,

00:26:49in the company of the saints,

00:26:51in the company of angels,

00:26:54but not,

00:26:54We can see them,

00:26:57And they can see us,

00:26:59most likely,

00:27:00Yes, that's right.

00:27:03because they can,

00:27:05from that perspective,

00:27:06see Flatland,

00:27:08This is being discussed,

00:27:09among theologians,

00:27:11and it is said,

00:27:12that which unites us,

00:27:14It is love,

00:27:15that only,

00:27:16those who are,

00:27:17bound by love,

00:27:19remain linked,

00:27:22even in eternity,

00:27:23that is to say,

00:27:24the husband,

00:27:25bound,

00:27:26not through the sacrament,

00:27:27Because that one runs out,

00:27:29linked the husband,

00:27:31with his wife,

00:27:31through spousal love,

00:27:33they always remain united,

00:27:36for love,

00:27:36and then,

00:27:39the husband,

00:27:40He never leaves the house,

00:27:41and it doesn't mean,

00:27:42that this,

00:27:43It's a ghost,

00:27:44TRUE,

00:27:45He doesn't appear,

00:27:46because we don't see it,

00:27:47because it's in another dimension,

00:27:49but it is,

00:27:50in the field,

00:27:51The son too,

00:27:52The father too,

00:27:54The brother too,

00:27:56because what binds us together,

00:27:58in the project,

00:27:59the way we treated him,

00:28:00to explain yesterday,

00:28:01is,

00:28:02love,

00:28:04probably,

00:28:06Many of us,

00:28:07that we don't love each other,

00:28:08TRUE,

00:28:08that we are part of,

00:28:09of a community,

00:28:10that we have not narrowed,

00:28:11links,

00:28:12ties,

00:28:12well,

00:28:14We will meet,

00:28:15in the sky,

00:28:15surely,

00:28:17but,

00:28:18if one of us,

00:28:19He leaves first,

00:28:20will not have access,

00:28:22to the other person,

00:28:23because there is no link,

00:28:25of love,

00:28:26all this,

00:28:26again,

00:28:27speculations,

00:28:29odds,

00:28:30of existence,

00:28:30and of coexistence,

00:28:32with the world,

00:28:34of eternity,

00:28:37So then,

00:28:38have,

00:28:40a,

00:28:41one dimension,

00:28:43different,

00:28:45Okay,

00:28:46in this dimension,

00:28:49We can talk,

00:28:50that there is,

00:28:50There is a certain,

00:28:51spatiality,

00:28:54and it also exists,

00:28:55a,

00:28:56temporality,

00:28:58because it exists,

00:28:59a spatiality,

00:29:01because the human body,

00:29:04It takes up space,

00:29:07and although it is not defined,

00:29:08clearly,

00:29:09at what point,

00:29:10it will be,

00:29:11this moment,

00:29:12of the reunion,

00:29:13with our body,

00:29:15it is being discussed,

00:29:16of the,

00:29:17of the resurrection,

00:29:20anticipated,

00:29:21which is a theory,

00:29:22TRUE,

00:29:23where,

00:29:24once,

00:29:25us,

00:29:25we are taken,

00:29:27to this,

00:29:28new dimension,

00:29:30then,

00:29:31time,

00:29:31temporality,

00:29:32How can I explain it?

00:29:33right now,

00:29:33It also changes,

00:29:36and then,

00:29:36then,

00:29:37let's say,

00:29:38the person,

00:29:40enter the dimension,

00:29:41definitive,

00:29:42of God,

00:29:44in it,

00:29:44no time,

00:29:45or at some point,

00:29:47different,

00:29:48we will listen,

00:29:48also,

00:29:49the story,

00:29:49of,

00:29:50Mari's,

00:29:52and at that moment,

00:29:53You are arriving,

00:29:56in the end,

00:29:57of the times,

00:29:58while here,

00:29:59on Earth,

00:30:00keep walking,

00:30:01Chronos,

00:30:03Chronos,

00:30:05and,

00:30:06time,

00:30:07of the earth,

00:30:08we move on to kairos,

00:30:09at the same time,

00:30:10of God,

00:30:11and in kairos,

00:30:12As I will mention,

00:30:13A little further on,

00:30:14one year,

00:30:16like a thousand days,

00:30:17and a thousand days,

00:30:18like a year,

00:30:20there is a temporality,

00:30:22different,

00:30:24and then,

00:30:25That's why they say,

00:30:26that at the moment,

00:30:27of our death,

00:30:29in time,

00:30:31in kairos,

00:30:32The resurrection occurs,

00:30:33and we went in,

00:30:34with his whole body,

00:30:35to live eternally,

00:30:36with God,

00:30:37this,

00:30:38It's not there,

00:30:39completely,

00:30:39accepted,

00:30:40by the,

00:30:41theology,

00:30:42Catholic,

00:30:43still,

00:30:44because,

00:30:45we have always driven,

00:30:46a final judgment,

00:30:48today,

00:30:48talk later,

00:30:48from a personal judgment,

00:30:50It's time,

00:30:50in which the soul,

00:30:51It follows,

00:30:52of the body,

00:30:54We will also talk,

00:30:55that morning,

00:30:55We'll talk,

00:30:56from the detachment,

00:30:57of the body,

00:30:58of the soul,

00:30:59and a second moment,

00:31:01again,

00:31:02temporality,

00:31:03chronological,

00:31:04Because that's all,

00:31:05It happens here on Earth,

00:31:07of a trial,

00:31:08end,

00:31:08the universal judgment,

00:31:11based,

00:31:12generally,

00:31:13in the text,

00:31:14of Saint Paul,

00:31:15in his second letter,

00:31:16to the Thessalonians,

00:31:17where he speaks,

00:31:19as in the end,

00:31:20we will see the dead,

00:31:21resurrect,

00:31:22and all this topic,

00:31:23and then,

00:31:23those who are alive,

00:31:24They too will be taken,

00:31:25then,

00:31:26their bodies,

00:31:27they will be transformed,

00:31:29they will be taken to heaven,

00:31:30initial trial,

00:31:32final judgment,

00:31:33moment,

00:31:34of the game,

00:31:35of the soul,

00:31:36moment,

00:31:36of the reunion,

00:31:37of the soul,

00:31:37with the body,

00:31:38up to that point,

00:31:38Theology arrives,

00:31:40Christian,

00:31:40Catholic,

00:31:41Catholic,

00:31:41but,

00:31:42in this,

00:31:43advance,

00:31:44what theologians are doing,

00:31:45That is its function,

00:31:46advance,

00:31:47and try to give,

00:31:48better explanation,

00:31:49to situations in our lives,

00:31:51Today it is being said,

00:31:52of this,

00:31:53eschatology,

00:31:54is called,

00:31:54eschatology,

00:31:56anticipated,

00:31:58that is to say,

00:31:59at the moment of death,

00:32:01It also occurs,

00:32:02the resurrection,

00:32:04TRUE,

00:32:04not in Chronos,

00:32:06Chronos,

00:32:07Those who are here,

00:32:08in time,

00:32:08Well, who knows?

00:32:09when they will see her,

00:32:10When it happens,

00:32:11TRUE,

00:32:11in time,

00:32:12at the end of time,

00:32:13of the earth,

00:32:14But in kairos,

00:32:15This does not exist.

00:32:16and then,

00:32:17That's what it's based on,

00:32:18a little bit the theologians,

00:32:19to talk,

00:32:20of this,

00:32:21eschatology,

00:32:22anticipated,

00:32:24But okay,

00:32:25Be that as it may,

00:32:27There is one,

00:32:27spatiality,

00:32:29because,

00:32:30because Jesus,

00:32:31has a body,

00:32:36Maria,

00:32:37which we recognize,

00:32:38It is part of our belief,

00:32:40of our faith,

00:32:41that Jesus,

00:32:42and Mary,

00:32:43They are resurrected,

00:32:44body and soul,

00:32:45and if they have bodies,

00:32:47although we will see,

00:32:47that the body,

00:32:48has a situation,

00:32:49different,

00:32:50whom we know,

00:32:52They occupy a space,

00:32:53so,

00:32:53There is one,

00:32:54certain,

00:32:55spatiality,

00:32:59that resurrected body,

00:33:01needs,

00:33:02a space,

00:33:03And on the other hand,

00:33:04We can also talk,

00:33:05of a certain,

00:33:06temporality,

00:33:07well,

00:33:08There is a before,

00:33:09and afterwards,

00:33:10And in that I know,

00:33:10define time,

00:33:12before,

00:33:15I was here,

00:33:17after,

00:33:17I'm here,

00:33:19before,

00:33:20Jesus,

00:33:20had not come,

00:33:23after,

00:33:25came,

00:33:27at one time,

00:33:28was here,

00:33:28on Earth,

00:33:30and in another time,

00:33:31He returned to heaven,

00:33:32however,

00:33:35that's why,

00:33:36I wanted to emphasize,

00:33:37time,

00:33:37the present time,

00:33:39where I am,

00:33:41that is to say,

00:33:42Jesus,

00:33:42never left,

00:33:43your sky,

00:33:44Kairos,

00:33:45That's something else,

00:33:46It is another temporality,

00:33:48it is another spatiality,

00:33:50that's why,

00:33:51when we try,

00:33:51to enter into this mystery,

00:33:52well,

00:33:53That's where we'll do it,

00:33:53Yeah, right, balls.

00:33:54No,

00:33:55I mean,

00:33:56you say,

00:33:56let's see,

00:33:56already,

00:33:57I no longer understand,

00:33:58I hope they don't come out.

00:33:58with a headache,

00:33:59of all this,

00:34:00let's see,

00:34:00How's this going on?

00:34:01and Flatland,

00:34:02and Joseph,

00:34:02and Mary,

00:34:03that rises,

00:34:04And where is it there?

00:34:04And we are all here,

00:34:06made into balls,

00:34:07No,

00:34:10try a little,

00:34:11of,

00:34:12well,

00:34:13say,

00:34:14indeed,

00:34:15This is a,

00:34:16mystery,

00:34:18that I can't,

00:34:19I can't,

00:34:20grasp,

00:34:22I can penetrate it,

00:34:24I can somehow,

00:34:25visualize it,

00:34:26But I can't.

00:34:27grasp,

00:34:28as Jesus says,

00:34:29where I am,

00:34:31when they're seeing it there,

00:34:32and he's going to take them there,

00:34:34where it says,

00:34:34who is going to prepare a place,

00:34:35because it is the same passage,

00:34:37It is verse 2,

00:34:39and verse 3,

00:34:40from chapter 14 of John,

00:34:41so,

00:34:42It's not that,

00:34:42He said this once,

00:34:44And he said this at another time,

00:34:45No,

00:34:47He's saying it,

00:34:49at the same time,

00:34:50No,

00:34:522 Peter 3,

00:34:538,

00:34:54the text of the writing,

00:34:55which speaks to us of this temporality,

00:34:57different from ours,

00:35:00says,

00:35:01Don't ignore this,

00:35:02that for the Lord,

00:35:03One day is like a thousand years,

00:35:04and a thousand years,

00:35:05like one day,

00:35:07I mean,

00:35:08what's that,

00:35:10That is Kairos,

00:35:12That is Kairos.

00:35:14It is God's time,

00:35:15which differs,

00:35:16how do they fix it,

00:35:18completely,

00:35:19of our own,

00:35:19that is to say,

00:35:20God lives in an eternal present,

00:35:23in it,

00:35:24everything is today,

00:35:24this moment,

00:35:25this moment,

00:35:27For him there is no yesterday,

00:35:28there is no tomorrow,

00:35:31There is a today,

00:35:31and a punctual today,

00:35:33this,

00:35:33this one we are experiencing,

00:35:35for God,

00:35:36It always exists,

00:35:37eternally,

00:35:38And if I move this way,

00:35:40has always existed,

00:35:41eternally,

00:35:41and says,

00:35:42Ah,

00:35:42so,

00:35:42He had already designed it,

00:35:44No,

00:35:44He knows it,

00:35:44because he sees it,

00:35:45and how do you see it,

00:35:46because he sees everything,

00:35:53It's something that we,

00:35:54in our dimensions,

00:35:56like poor Mary,

00:35:57poor thing,

00:35:57Where were you?

00:35:59Well, I was upstairs,

00:36:00achiboba,

00:36:02And I saw you,

00:36:03how you moved,

00:36:04all over the house,

00:36:05looking for me,

00:36:06But how did you see me?

00:36:07If the walls are there,

00:36:08And if it was upstairs,

00:36:13Maria must have gone crazy.

00:36:14not understanding,

00:36:17what does it mean,

00:36:19above,

00:36:20and we,

00:36:21we could return,

00:36:22crazy,

00:36:23thinking,

00:36:23where is heaven,

00:36:26What is heaven?

00:36:29I want to leave from here,

00:36:31and use the experiences,

00:36:32by Maria Neal,

00:36:33about what she saw,

00:36:35and lived,

00:36:36what he experienced,

00:36:37in their meeting,

00:36:38with the eternity of God,

00:36:41I was telling them,

00:36:42already yesterday,

00:36:43that she is one,

00:36:45spout,

00:36:46canoeist,

00:36:47Yeah,

00:36:49very experienced,

00:36:50suffering,

00:36:50a terrible accident,

00:36:52when his canoe,

00:36:53falling down a waterfall,

00:36:55It gets stuck,

00:36:56on the stones,

00:36:57which prevents him,

00:36:58to stay afloat,

00:37:00she,

00:37:01with the weight,

00:37:01from the water,

00:37:02that is falling,

00:37:03on his back,

00:37:04It cannot be straightened,

00:37:05to stick her legs out,

00:37:07and get out of the canoe,

00:37:09but what remains is,

00:37:09upside down,

00:37:10And she says,

00:37:11my body,

00:37:12remained completely,

00:37:14well,

00:37:15on the canoe,

00:37:15because up above,

00:37:16He was falling for her,

00:37:17the jet of water,

00:37:18to the waterfall,

00:37:19it fell on top of him,

00:37:20so,

00:37:20There was so much of it,

00:37:21It was a waterfall,

00:37:21very large,

00:37:22He couldn't get out,

00:37:23And so there,

00:37:24He drowned.

00:37:25He managed to break free,

00:37:27when,

00:37:28well,

00:37:28His legs break,

00:37:30due to water pressure,

00:37:31TRUE,

00:37:32They break too,

00:37:33the ligaments,

00:37:34and then,

00:37:35Now he can,

00:37:36Well, it's already being done.

00:37:37of chewing gum,

00:37:38TRUE,

00:37:38and then the water,

00:37:40the weight of the waterfall,

00:37:41She takes it out,

00:37:42TRUE,

00:37:43but with his legs already broken,

00:37:44and then,

00:37:45of having drowned,

00:37:47after having already died,

00:37:48exits,

00:37:49from the canoe,

00:37:50It's coming out now.

00:37:51dead,

00:37:53then,

00:37:54a dying process begins,

00:37:56which she defines,

00:37:56wonderfully,

00:37:58in the book,

00:38:00in his experience,

00:38:01round,

00:38:02He speaks to us,

00:38:03of how he experiences this process,

00:38:05of death,

00:38:05she goes on to describe,

00:38:07a series of elements,

00:38:08which come to confirm,

00:38:10what writing,

00:38:11somehow,

00:38:11He already told us,

00:38:13For example,

00:38:14well,

00:38:15on the subject,

00:38:15that we've been discussing,

00:38:17above the sky,

00:38:18He tells us,

00:38:21I quote directly here,

00:38:23to Marínio,

00:38:25eternity,

00:38:26It's not really,

00:38:28an infinite number,

00:38:29years,

00:38:29aligned,

00:38:30in a row,

00:38:32where every year,

00:38:33each century,

00:38:34They follow one another,

00:38:36like chapters,

00:38:37from a history book,

00:38:39instead,

00:38:40all the time,

00:38:41past,

00:38:42present and future,

00:38:43It's right here,

00:38:45now,

00:38:46in my case,

00:38:48every moment,

00:38:49It contained his past,

00:38:50your present,

00:38:51and its future,

00:38:52as they expanded,

00:38:55towards eternity,

00:38:56and I was experiencing,

00:38:57that eternity,

00:38:58in a flash,

00:38:59I felt like I belonged,

00:39:01you are welcome,

00:39:02and everything,

00:39:04Did you understand?

00:39:08If anyone understood,

00:39:10Then he explains to me,

00:39:10TRUE?

00:39:13How wonderful!

00:39:14No?

00:39:15I read it again,

00:39:16because it is,

00:39:17It's fascinating,

00:39:18what she understands,

00:39:20He tries to tell us,

00:39:21with his words,

00:39:22what she understands,

00:39:22time,

00:39:25past,

00:39:26present and future,

00:39:27It's here,

00:39:29right now,

00:39:31now,

00:39:32in my case,

00:39:33every moment,

00:39:34It contained his past,

00:39:36your present,

00:39:38and its future,

00:39:39every moment,

00:39:42as it expanded,

00:39:43towards eternity,

00:39:45and I was experiencing,

00:39:46usually an experience,

00:39:47and I was experiencing,

00:39:48that eternity,

00:39:49in a flash,

00:39:50upon entering eternity,

00:39:54eternity,

00:39:55It's part of us,

00:39:56It changes completely,

00:39:58our idea of time,

00:39:59our idea of space,

00:40:00our idea of existence,

00:40:02we started to have,

00:40:03a different existence,

00:40:07we began to exist,

00:40:08in God,

00:40:09in a particular way,

00:40:12I would be,

00:40:13part of nothing,

00:40:14and everything,

00:40:16at the same time,

00:40:18That's how time is,

00:40:19loses the linear dimension,

00:40:21to which we are accustomed,

00:40:23to live,

00:40:25an event,

00:40:28after another event,

00:40:29today,

00:40:30for a little while,

00:40:30the afterwards,

00:40:31He's making a decision right now.

00:40:33and then I change it,

00:40:34No,

00:40:35that's all,

00:40:36a situation,

00:40:37what is happening right now,

00:40:38and it extends,

00:40:39towards the,

00:40:40towards the past,

00:40:41and towards him,

00:40:41towards the future,

00:40:43That's why the devil,

00:40:44There is no going back,

00:40:45That's why after death,

00:40:46We cannot regret it,

00:40:48because it becomes,

00:40:49in a flash,

00:40:50which encompasses,

00:40:50Now, for all eternity,

00:40:52the devil,

00:40:54There is no going back,

00:40:56because of his decision,

00:40:57It was taken in eternity,

00:40:59where the future,

00:41:01and the past,

00:41:03they materialize,

00:41:03in the present,

00:41:04that extends into eternity,

00:41:08that's why,

00:41:08We pray for,

00:41:10our brothers,

00:41:10who have died,

00:41:11so that in life,

00:41:12while we are here,

00:41:14we regret it,

00:41:15Let's change lanes,

00:41:16so that we may search,

00:41:18grow in love,

00:41:19because once,

00:41:20that we die,

00:41:22then,

00:41:23we are torn away,

00:41:24of this linear dimension,

00:41:27where I am right now,

00:41:29And tomorrow I won't be here anymore,

00:41:30where I say one thing right now,

00:41:32And then I say another one,

00:41:33So that what I'm saying...

00:41:34at that time,

00:41:36It is eternal,

00:41:37and definitive,

00:41:39because it encompasses,

00:41:40all the past,

00:41:42all the future,

00:41:42and all eternity,

00:41:45and I become part of it,

00:41:47of today,

00:41:48present,

00:41:49acting,

00:41:49and definitive,

00:41:51That's why,

00:41:54before,

00:41:56How would I say,

00:41:57Ana María Rabaté,

00:41:58While you're alive, brother.

00:42:00while alive,

00:42:04It's something else entirely,

00:42:05I think that only,

00:42:07like Mari,

00:42:07who has experienced it,

00:42:08will be able to have the experience,

00:42:09of this human part,

00:42:14which is what it really is,

00:42:16because there is no time,

00:42:17So it is this no-time,

00:42:19or what is this time,

00:42:20that expands,

00:42:21who makes himself present,

00:42:22in a flash,

00:42:24time ceases to be,

00:42:26a line with a beginning and an end,

00:42:28and it becomes like a space,

00:42:30in a way of existing,

00:42:33we exist now in time,

00:42:37we exist in time,

00:42:38there is no present,

00:42:40there is no past,

00:42:41there is no future,

00:42:42I exist now in time,

00:42:46Einstein was right,

00:42:48Everything is relative.

00:42:51Everything is relative.

00:42:53Time is relative,

00:42:54just like space,

00:42:55It's truly a new way,

00:42:57unknown existence,

00:43:00Regarding corporeality,

00:43:03The Gospel of Matthew tells us,

00:43:05in this topic we are discussing,

00:43:06of the corporeality,

00:43:08John 20,

00:43:0824,

00:43:0927,

00:43:11Thomas, one of the twelve,

00:43:13called the Didymus,

00:43:14I wasn't with them,

00:43:15When Jesus came,

00:43:16Then the other disciples,

00:43:18They called him,

00:43:19We have seen the Lord,

00:43:21But he told them,

00:43:22If I don't see it in your hands,

00:43:23the mark of the nails,

00:43:25and I put my finger in,

00:43:26in place of the nails,

00:43:27and I put my hand out,

00:43:28on his side,

00:43:30I won't believe it,

00:43:31eight days later,

00:43:35His disciples were there again,

00:43:37inside,

00:43:37and Thomas with them,

00:43:39And with the doors closed,

00:43:42Jesus can come and go,

00:43:46you don't need to go through a door,

00:43:48He can be like José,

00:43:51to be present,

00:43:52in our,

00:43:53in our land,

00:43:54in our view,

00:43:56of humanity,

00:43:57in our view,

00:43:58of what it is,

00:44:00our today,

00:44:02Jesus came,

00:44:03and stood in their midst,

00:44:04And he said to them,

00:44:06Peace be with you,

00:44:08Then he said to Thomas,

00:44:09Bring your finger here,

00:44:11And look at my hands,

00:44:13Extend your hand here,

00:44:14and put it in my side,

00:44:16And do not be unbelieving,

00:44:18but a believer,

00:44:20that is to say,

00:44:21there is a corporeality,

00:44:22there is a materiality,

00:44:25sections another topic,

00:44:26spatiality,

00:44:28temporality,

00:44:30materiality,

00:44:31and everything changes,

00:44:34time,

00:44:35It is not our time,

00:44:36space,

00:44:37This is not our space.

00:44:39and matter,

00:44:39It's not our subject,

00:44:41However,

00:44:42there is,

00:44:43There is space,

00:44:44There is time,

00:44:46and there is matter,

00:44:48a materiality,

00:44:49different,

00:44:52It shows in this,

00:44:53a clear experience,

00:44:54of a resurrected body,

00:44:56It can be touched,

00:44:58and keeps the traces,

00:44:59that the crucifixion,

00:45:01that identify,

00:45:02which is the same,

00:45:03the one who was crucified,

00:45:04and no other,

00:45:05who has no other body,

00:45:07but the same,

00:45:09Here are the footprints,

00:45:10It's my own body,

00:45:12it's me,

00:45:13Come, Thomas,

00:45:14come closer,

00:45:16Put your finger here,

00:45:17Touch me,

00:45:19am,

00:45:21a,

00:45:22person,

00:45:23physics,

00:45:25I have,

00:45:25corporeality,

00:45:27I have,

00:45:28corporeality,

00:45:30It doesn't need to,

00:45:34further,

00:45:37can now,

00:45:37tap,

00:45:38and put your hand in,

00:45:39in the holes,

00:45:40of the nails,

00:45:42finally,

00:45:43we can say,

00:45:45who is alive,

00:45:45who has the wounds,

00:45:48of the crucifixion,

00:45:49that caused his death,

00:45:52because he bled to death,

00:45:54that's why,

00:45:54the,

00:45:54the crucified,

00:45:56They were dying,

00:45:57really,

00:45:58death,

00:45:58the crucified,

00:45:59It was due to asphyxiation,

00:46:01They died of asphyxiation,

00:46:03but,

00:46:04They died of asphyxiation,

00:46:05because they were losing,

00:46:05a lot of blood,

00:46:06They were losing blood,

00:46:08that's why,

00:46:08a crucified man,

00:46:09It could last a week,

00:46:10that's why,

00:46:11Pilate,

00:46:11He is surprised,

00:46:12that Jesus has already died,

00:46:13more than Jesus,

00:46:14They supplied him,

00:46:15but everywhere,

00:46:16TRUE,

00:46:17I mean,

00:46:17to the,

00:46:18those who were going to be crucified,

00:46:20because they didn't do it for them,

00:46:21what they did to Jesus,

00:46:22the other two crucified,

00:46:23were,

00:46:24healthy,

00:46:25They were just there,

00:46:25with his hands,

00:46:26perforated,

00:46:27TRUE,

00:46:28so,

00:46:29the weight of the cross,

00:46:30They were standing still,

00:46:32about,

00:46:34this table,

00:46:35that they put on them,

00:46:36TRUE,

00:46:37and then,

00:46:38There they stood,

00:46:40but,

00:46:40They got tired,

00:46:41and then,

00:46:43They were pulling at their arms,

00:46:44or the feet,

00:46:45and again,

00:46:46They were bleeding again,

00:46:47and to bleed,

00:46:48and to bleed,

00:46:50and to bleed,

00:46:51until they no longer had strength,

00:46:53and they could no longer be stopped,

00:46:55and then,

00:46:56He is suffocating,

00:46:59Jesus,

00:47:00It doesn't bleed,

00:47:02It has holes,

00:47:06but it doesn't bleed,

00:47:07He is alive,

00:47:13but it's not visible,

00:47:16that has blood,

00:47:18or if it has blood,

00:47:19He doesn't use it.

00:47:19like us,

00:47:21so that the body,

00:47:21stay alive,

00:47:22And that's why,

00:47:23perhaps it doesn't bleed,

00:47:24although perhaps,

00:47:24have it,

00:47:26all the stigmatized,

00:47:28They bleed,

00:47:31Jesus,

00:47:32resurrected,

00:47:33It no longer bleeds,

00:47:37He is alive,

00:47:37in a different way,

00:47:39to which,

00:47:40they knew,

00:47:42Lucas,

00:47:43It is even more explicit,

00:47:44in his story,

00:47:44on this topic,

00:47:45of the corporeality,

00:47:47Luke 24,

00:47:4836,

00:47:4936,

00:47:5043,

00:47:50sorry,

00:47:51says,

00:47:52while they,

00:47:53They recounted these things,

00:47:55Jesus put on,

00:47:56in the midst of them,

00:47:56And he said to them,

00:47:57pass it on,

00:47:59But they,

00:47:59terrified,

00:48:00and frightened,

00:48:01they thought,

00:48:01who saw a spirit,

00:48:04And he said to them,

00:48:05because they are troubled,

00:48:07And because doubts arise,

00:48:08in their hearts,

00:48:10Look at my hands,

00:48:11and my feet,

00:48:11that I am myself,

00:48:13touch me,

00:48:14And look,

00:48:15because a spirit,

00:48:16It has no meat,

00:48:18nor bones,

00:48:18As you can see, I have

00:48:20and this expression,

00:48:23It is very important,

00:48:26in the experiences,

00:48:28of the,

00:48:28who are stigmatized,

00:48:30the hole,

00:48:33It's a big hole,

00:48:34in the hands,

00:48:34or in the pulses,

00:48:36There are stigmatized people,

00:48:37in both parts,

00:48:40and of things,

00:48:41in a comment,

00:48:43that I heard,

00:48:44about Father Pio,

00:48:46a person,

00:48:46who went to see him,

00:48:48before it was sold,

00:48:49the hands,

00:48:50says,

00:48:50I almost fainted,

00:48:52when I saw the holes,

00:48:54in the hands,

00:48:55and I could see his bones,

00:48:57I mean,

00:49:00You can see the bones there,

00:49:03the disciples,

00:49:06they saw that,

00:49:07Jesus had bones,

00:49:10It had meat,

00:49:13It clearly states,

00:49:14touch me,

00:49:14Look at me,

00:49:15because a spirit,

00:49:16It has no meat,

00:49:16nor bones,

00:49:17As you can see,

00:49:18that I have,

00:49:19They are watching,

00:49:20that has bones,

00:49:22And when he told them this,

00:49:25He showed them his hands,

00:49:26and the feet,

00:49:29like them still,

00:49:30They didn't believe it,

00:49:31because of the joy,

00:49:33that they were,

00:49:33and that they were,

00:49:35amazed,

00:49:35he told them,

00:49:36They have here,

00:49:37something to eat,

00:49:40so,

00:49:41They introduced him,

00:49:42part of a roasted fish,

00:49:44And he took it,

00:49:45and he ate,

00:49:46in front of them,

00:49:49not only,

00:49:50They can touch it,

00:49:51but he can play,

00:49:52can pick things up,

00:49:54And the most wonderful thing,

00:49:55can eat,

00:50:00so,

00:50:01Look,

00:50:01I'm going to prepare a place for them,

00:50:03I'm going to prepare a dwelling for them,

00:50:05a house,

00:50:05home,

00:50:06which is a house,

00:50:07because they must be like houses,

00:50:08but that they be like those in the valley colony,

00:50:10But, well,

00:50:11but,

00:50:11Oh well, that's just how it is.

00:50:11TRUE,

00:50:12said a house,

00:50:13He didn't say how,

00:50:14nor in which colony,

00:50:15nothing,

00:50:15He just said he was going to prepare a house,

00:50:17a dwelling,

00:50:17Well,

00:50:18Alright,

00:50:18and in that,

00:50:21in that new city,

00:50:23the new Jerusalem,

00:50:25We'll look a little bit at the topic of the apocalypse.

00:50:27There are many houses,

00:50:28And there are many dwellings,

00:50:29says,

00:50:29and in those dwellings,

00:50:34What's up?

00:50:36Well, maybe beds,

00:50:37No,

00:50:37because we won't need to sleep,

00:50:39You won't get tired anymore,

00:50:40But there will surely be food,

00:50:47No?

00:50:51because otherwise,

00:50:51Why did he teach us how to eat here?

00:50:54let's see,

00:50:55Why did he make us try the mole?

00:50:58For example,

00:50:59No?

00:51:02Imagine,

00:51:03a fried meal at night,

00:51:05I'm going to eat it right now,

00:51:06and I fall asleep standing up,

00:51:09of gastritis,

00:51:11No?

00:51:11a barbecue,

00:51:12Oh,

00:51:13that's lovely!

00:51:14with their flour tortillas,

00:51:20And you can eat as many as you want,

00:51:23because they won't hurt you anymore,

00:51:27And you won't gain weight.

00:51:31because they are integrating now,

00:51:36TRUE?

00:51:36They are made with whole wheat flour,

00:51:38they become integrated into the body,

00:51:39No?

00:51:47Jesus ate in front of them,

00:51:51This tells us,

00:51:52that in the life of heaven,

00:51:53It has a similar dimension,

00:51:54to ours,

00:51:55a similar dimension,

00:51:57such,

00:51:59I love this,

00:52:01I don't know if you've read it,

00:52:03oh well,

00:52:03As you can see, I like to read.

00:52:04and I'm always recommending books to them,

00:52:06I have highly recommended this day to him,

00:52:08because it seems to me,

00:52:09a book,

00:52:09very beautiful,

00:52:11and very,

00:52:12this,

00:52:13very illustrative,

00:52:14in many respects,

00:52:15the one in the cabin,

00:52:16I think,

00:52:17that,

00:52:18This man,

00:52:19truly,

00:52:21He had an epiphany,

00:52:22Awesome, God!

00:52:24And what he writes,

00:52:25although he is not a prophet,

00:52:27let's say,

00:52:27I mean,

00:52:27It is not a religious book,

00:52:29It's a novel,

00:52:30But it's a novel,

00:52:31which has many elements,

00:52:34that truly,

00:52:35are extracted,

00:52:36of a supernatural reality,

00:52:38and I like it very much,

00:52:40a passage,

00:52:41which I don't think is there,

00:52:42in the film,

00:52:44because so many things,

00:52:45They're not in the movie,

00:52:46a passage,

00:52:47where are they eating,

00:52:48He is eating,

00:52:50this,

00:52:50Mark,

00:52:52He is eating,

00:52:53with,

00:52:53with dad,

00:52:55and with,

00:52:55Jesus,

00:52:56and with,

00:52:57Sarayú,

00:53:00and with Sarayú,

00:53:01He is eating,

00:53:02there with them,

00:53:03and says to him,

00:53:04he tells her,

00:53:04Mark,

00:53:05he tells her,

00:53:06to,

00:53:06he tells her,

00:53:08to Jesus,

00:53:10hey,

00:53:11in the sky,

00:53:12They eat,

00:53:13And Jesus says,

00:53:14No,

00:53:15in the sky,

00:53:16we don't need to eat,

00:53:17and then,

00:53:17because they eat,

00:53:18and then,

00:53:19Jesus begins to say to him,

00:53:20But how can we deprive ourselves?

00:53:22And he begins to say,

00:53:22a wonderful menu,

00:53:24TRUE,

00:53:25And if you look closely,

00:53:26in that,

00:53:26in that book,

00:53:28this,

00:53:29dad,

00:53:29which is a bold girl,

00:53:30TRUE,

00:53:31That's the topic,

00:53:32no,

00:53:32No,

00:53:33There isn't one.

00:53:34I mean,

00:53:34We have an idea,

00:53:36God's mistake,

00:53:37TRUE,

00:53:38God the Father,

00:53:39because he is not a man,

00:53:41like us,

00:53:42TRUE,

00:53:42and then,

00:53:43They contrast it,

00:53:44in an impressive way,

00:53:45in fact,

00:53:46That led me to read the book,

00:53:47Because when they told me,

00:53:49that God,

00:53:49She was a dark-skinned girl,

00:53:51Oh Carlitos,

00:53:53So what are they reading?

00:53:54Ah,

00:53:54And it's the brutal contrast,

00:54:00that we think,

00:54:03that God,

00:54:03is a person,

00:54:05I mean,

00:54:05God the Father,

00:54:05is a white person,

00:54:07because,

00:54:08because those who developed the theology,

00:54:09and those who brought us the iconography,

00:54:11Well, it was the white Europeans,

00:54:13But what would have happened?

00:54:15What if the little black children had brought it?

00:54:19God would be black,

00:54:20in fact,

00:54:21There are many black virgins,

00:54:22when the Virgin appears,

00:54:24in,

00:54:25in Africa,

00:54:26Well, imagine if they told you,

00:54:28Here I am, I am your mother,

00:54:29Imagine the Virgin of Guadalupe,

00:54:30blonde,

00:54:31blue-eyed,

00:54:32and white,

00:54:33And tell Juan Diego,

00:54:34black as jet,

00:54:36the scoundrel,

00:54:37and tell him,

00:54:40that I am not here,

00:54:41that I am your mother,

00:54:46Well, where else is it going?

00:54:47blonde,

00:54:48blue eyes,

00:54:50white,

00:54:50He said no.

00:54:51You are not my mother,

00:54:52forgive me,

00:54:53it isn't true?

00:54:58And on the subject of food,

00:55:01It's a topic that,

00:55:03It's truly fascinating.

00:55:05No?

00:55:05I,

00:55:08I was also mentioning that,

00:55:09these days,

00:55:09No?

00:55:10When I'm like this with friends,

00:55:11good company,

00:55:13a nice dinner,

00:55:13a good meal,

00:55:15little wine,

00:55:16so relaxed,

00:55:17the music,

00:55:18I always say this,

00:55:20And in addition to this,

00:55:22what will be in heaven,

00:55:26That would be enough,

00:55:29What else is there?

00:55:31If this is already a delight,

00:55:32Imagine friendship,

00:55:34what you're sharing,

00:55:35what you're saying,

00:55:36the love that is,

00:55:37It is spreading,

00:55:39in that place,

00:55:40taste,

00:55:41all your tastes,

00:55:42all your senses,

00:55:43then,

00:55:44inflamed,

00:55:45TRUE?

00:55:45Because of what you're eating,

00:55:47seeing,

00:55:47feeling,

00:55:48hearing,

00:55:48because of what you are experiencing,

00:55:50of the love of companionship,

00:55:51from what you hear,

00:55:52There's an explosion,

00:55:54of totality,

00:55:57And that's nothing,

00:56:00In addition to this,

00:56:01what will be in heaven,

00:56:02God wants us to,

00:56:12Let's experiment,

00:56:13the delights,

00:56:14and Jesus,

00:56:17is embodied,

00:56:18so as not to deprive oneself,

00:56:19of these delicacies,

00:56:21to participate,

00:56:22also,

00:56:23with us,

00:56:23of them,

00:56:24On this aspect,

00:56:28sensitive,

00:56:30says,

00:56:30Mary Neal,

00:56:32your experience,

00:56:34I sat down,

00:56:35on the ground,

00:56:36to one side,

00:56:37from a field,

00:56:38that was covered,

00:56:39of grass,

00:56:40that was moving,

00:56:41with the gentle breeze,

00:56:43There is grass,

00:56:45in the sky,

00:56:49gentle breeze,

00:56:50There is air,

00:56:51There are drafts,

00:56:51that move it,

00:56:54the entire area,

00:56:56she had bathed,

00:56:57with the beautiful light,

00:56:58golden,

00:56:59of the sun,

00:56:59at sunset,

00:57:00It doesn't say there was sun,

00:57:01There was light,

00:57:03but a beautiful light,

00:57:05at least,

00:57:06That's how she sees it.

00:57:07No,

00:57:08beautiful light,

00:57:10of the sun,

00:57:11at sunset,

00:57:12my arms,

00:57:13They were resting,

00:57:14comfortably,

00:57:15on my knees,

00:57:17feels,

00:57:19the ground,

00:57:21below,

00:57:21He felt firm,

00:57:24floor,

00:57:25firm,

00:57:26the world,

00:57:29around me,

00:57:30it shone,

00:57:31with,

00:57:33I know with what,

00:57:35it shone,

00:57:35with

00:57:37Yeah,

00:57:38that,

00:57:38It was what it seemed.

00:57:39fill,

00:57:40all of creation,

00:57:41emotion,

00:57:42feelings,

00:57:45sensitivity,

00:57:47a pasture,

00:57:48that moves,

00:57:49a breeze,

00:57:50accompanying,

00:57:52a beautiful light,

00:57:53like the one that provides,

00:57:55the one that provides,

00:57:56the sun,

00:57:56at sunset,

00:57:58an experience,

00:57:59sensitive,

00:58:01in death,

00:58:02of things,

00:58:04sorry,

00:58:04to call it that,

00:58:06physical,

00:58:07of things,

00:58:07that we know,

00:58:08What was that grass?

00:58:10who knows,

00:58:10She experienced it,

00:58:12like a pasture,

00:58:13What was that breeze?

00:58:13when in heaven,

00:58:14There is no breeze,

00:58:15because there is no air,

00:58:16It is no longer the earth,

00:58:17It's a different reality,

00:58:18And yet,

00:58:19she was experimenting,

00:58:20all these experiences,

00:58:22all these sensations,

00:58:24Elsewhere it says,

00:58:27the colors,

00:58:28of nature,

00:58:29and the magnificent ones,

00:58:30aromas,

00:58:31of the flowers,

00:58:33smell,

00:58:34smell,

00:58:37to the flowers,

00:58:38There are flowers,

00:58:40in the sky,

00:58:40There are flowers,

00:58:44things,

00:58:45that only,

00:58:46We believe,

00:58:47that exist,

00:58:47here on earth,

00:58:49well,

00:58:49she says,

00:58:50who saw flowers,

00:58:51the trees,

00:58:53They have always moved me,

00:58:56deeply,

00:58:57So it's not surprising,

00:58:59that he would find me,

00:59:00fairly,

00:59:00with them,

00:59:02when looking,

00:59:03more closely,

00:59:04the road,

00:59:05that we traveled,

00:59:06appeared to be,

00:59:07embroidery,

00:59:08with each color,

00:59:09of the rainbow,

00:59:10He is on his journey,

00:59:11skyward,

00:59:12even with some,

00:59:14which I had never seen,

00:59:15colors,

00:59:16that he does not know,

00:59:18There are colors,

00:59:18You know,

00:59:19than the rainbow,

00:59:19because it has,

00:59:20the entire range,

00:59:21full of colors,

00:59:23And yet,

00:59:26says,

00:59:27a variety,

00:59:28apparently,

00:59:29infinite,

00:59:30of flowers,

00:59:31was growing,

00:59:31on the edges,

00:59:32of the road,

00:59:34and my own being,

00:59:35it became impregnated,

00:59:36of its sumptuous aroma,

00:59:38the

00:59:39and the sharpness,

00:59:40of the colors,

00:59:41the intricate,

00:59:42of the flowers,

00:59:43and the appeal,

00:59:43of the aromas,

00:59:44They were much more intense,

00:59:46that anything,

00:59:47that he had seen,

00:59:48or experienced,

00:59:48on Earth,

00:59:49I not only saw,

00:59:51and I smelled those things,

00:59:53Listen to this,

00:59:55I heard them too,

00:59:57I tried,

00:59:58and I felt,

01:00:02I mean,

01:00:03It's an experience,

01:00:03flooding,

01:00:05colored,

01:00:06of aroma,

01:00:07beauty,

01:00:08of sensitivity,

01:00:10where it seems,

01:00:11as if you were tasting them,

01:00:12as if all your senses,

01:00:13even taste,

01:00:15the sense of smell,

01:00:15Everything will come together,

01:00:17we know,

01:00:18which part of the flavors,

01:00:19We received it too,

01:00:21through the nose,

01:00:23I mean,

01:00:23taste,

01:00:25come in,

01:00:26throughout,

01:00:28With all this,

01:00:29What is he telling us?

01:00:30siblings,

01:00:30It's a global experience,

01:00:33totalizing,

01:00:35wonderful,

01:00:36exciting,

01:00:37says,

01:00:38vibrated,

01:00:38excitingly,

01:00:40As we can see,

01:00:44our senses,

01:00:45remain,

01:00:47and what is experienced,

01:00:48It has consistency,

01:00:49material,

01:00:50that can be touched,

01:00:51for us,

01:00:53certainly,

01:00:54This is the entrance,

01:00:55It hasn't arrived yet.

01:00:57It's at the entrance,

01:00:58when still,

01:00:59is shared,

01:01:00somehow,

01:01:01the corporeality,

01:01:02with the world created,

01:01:04when still,

01:01:05we are part of it,

01:01:06we are not part of it,

01:01:08full,

01:01:09of eternity,

01:01:10She's going to say,

01:01:12later,

01:01:13that on the way up,

01:01:14as it goes up,

01:01:15because she experiences it,

01:01:16like a rise,

01:01:17along this path,

01:01:19and can hear,

01:01:20the voices,

01:01:21you can see,

01:01:22to those who are rescuing him,

01:01:24and that they are giving it to him,

01:01:26breathing,

01:01:27They're giving it to him,

01:01:28this,

01:01:28resuscitation,

01:01:29And listen,

01:01:30what they tell him,

01:01:31breathe,

01:01:32Come on,

01:01:32return,

01:01:34And one of them says,

01:01:35Leave her alone.

01:01:36She's already dead.

01:01:37nothing to be done,

01:01:37She listens,

01:01:39all this,

01:01:41and,

01:01:42and go,

01:01:43still the river,

01:01:45Go to the people,

01:01:46He sees everything,

01:01:47but at the same time,

01:01:48when he turns around,

01:01:49towards the other side,

01:01:50Go now,

01:01:50another thing,

01:01:51completely different,

01:01:53is sharing,

01:01:54herein,

01:01:55in this transition,

01:01:56skyward,

01:01:57still shares,

01:01:58its materiality,

01:01:59human,

01:02:00with immateriality,

01:02:02of eternity,

01:02:05There's no need,

01:02:08to speak,

01:02:09in the sky,

01:02:10communication,

01:02:11It's done perfectly,

01:02:13on the road to heaven,

01:02:15He says he could hear,

01:02:16with the ears,

01:02:17what comes from outside,

01:02:19but with people,

01:02:20I'm coming in,

01:02:21along the way,

01:02:22I don't need to hear,

01:02:23from the outside,

01:02:24It's something that happens,

01:02:25from within,

01:02:26with great perfection,

01:02:27It says verbatim,

01:02:31there is a perception,

01:02:32of things,

01:02:32in fullness,

01:02:34It can be seen,

01:02:35smell,

01:02:36feel,

01:02:37as if the senses,

01:02:38expand,

01:02:40everything now,

01:02:41It had a dimension,

01:02:42perfect and real,

01:02:43It was as if,

01:02:44all,

01:02:45we were connected,

01:02:47Finally,

01:02:50Everything made sense,

01:02:52all,

01:02:52what I had to do,

01:02:53It was thinking,

01:02:54in a question,

01:02:55or a theme,

01:02:56regardless,

01:02:57the complex,

01:02:57whatever it was,

01:02:58and understood,

01:02:59the answer,

01:03:00immediately,

01:03:02We will meet him,

01:03:03all,

01:03:05the people,

01:03:09he asks,

01:03:10oh well,

01:03:10And how is this?

01:03:11how is,

01:03:13certainly,

01:03:14the answer,

01:03:15As you can see,

01:03:15It's not simple,

01:03:16We're playing,

01:03:17a mystery,

01:03:17perhaps the mystery,

01:03:19that afterwards,

01:03:19of the incarnation,

01:03:20and then,

01:03:21of the Trinity,

01:03:22Let the mystery be,

01:03:22bigger,

01:03:23the sky,

01:03:24because heaven,

01:03:25It is God himself,

01:03:26to speak of heaven,

01:03:27It is to speak of God,

01:03:29And that's why,

01:03:31hardly,

01:03:32We can talk about this,

01:03:33we need to use,

01:03:34as Jesus used,

01:03:35allegories,

01:03:36images,

01:03:37And thank God,

01:03:38that God has allowed,

01:03:40that people like Mari,

01:03:41well,

01:03:42return,

01:03:43and tell us,

01:03:43your experience,

01:03:46and we'll see,

01:03:47which indeed,

01:03:48Mari's experience,

01:03:49It's not far,

01:03:50of writing,

01:03:51which corresponds,

01:03:53very good,

01:03:54to the texts,

01:03:55clear,

01:03:56under one dimension,

01:03:57that not even she herself,

01:03:58can explain,

01:03:59but when we,

01:04:01We checked it,

01:04:02well,

01:04:03we found,

01:04:03that there is a lot of similarity,

01:04:05that truly,

01:04:07which,

01:04:07He tells us,

01:04:08Holy Scripture,

01:04:10well,

01:04:10It falls short.

01:04:12in relation,

01:04:13to what it really is,

01:04:14because when,

01:04:15He's already experiencing it,

01:04:16Well, now,

01:04:16he can no longer explain,

01:04:17completely,

01:04:18what is it,

01:04:18but feel,

01:04:19go,

01:04:20smells,

01:04:21I could eat,

01:04:22could play,

01:04:23Jesus has left us,

01:04:28in his resurrection,

01:04:29and in the apocalypse,

01:04:31many clues,

01:04:33with which,

01:04:33we can start building,

01:04:35as before,

01:04:36This reality,

01:04:36what awaits us,

01:04:38Mari's story,

01:04:39and Nil,

01:04:40has been confirming this to us,

01:04:41as much as we could,

01:04:42deduct,

01:04:44in the sky,

01:04:44There are flowers,

01:04:46smells,

01:04:46sensations,

01:04:49but they took everything,

01:04:51at most,

01:04:55Saint Paul,

01:04:56He tells us,

01:04:56that was taken away,

01:04:57up to the third heaven,

01:05:00and that he saw things,

01:05:02that cannot express,

01:05:04that he cannot say,

01:05:08because he,

01:05:10in this case,

01:05:11He did go to heaven.

01:05:13He was indeed taken away,

01:05:14to heaven,

01:05:14says,

01:05:16I don't know if he was alive,

01:05:17or in death,

01:05:18I don't know how it happened,

01:05:20But finally,

01:05:21met,

01:05:23the third heaven,

01:05:24And this tells us something,

01:05:25of level,

01:05:26There are levels,

01:05:27TRUE?

01:05:29also in heaven,

01:05:30There are levels,

01:05:33because it says,

01:05:34Saint Thomas,

01:05:36which wouldn't be fair,

01:05:37God,

01:05:38if a person,

01:05:39that all his life,

01:05:40it remained,

01:05:41in grace,

01:05:42he lived,

01:05:43in a fulfilling relationship,

01:05:45deep,

01:05:45with God,

01:05:46in the end,

01:05:47who lived,

01:05:47this separation,

01:05:49loving,

01:05:50of the earth,

01:05:51to be united with God,

01:05:53And it would be fair to us,

01:05:55if that person,

01:05:56when he resurrects,

01:05:58when he goes to heaven,

01:05:59well,

01:06:00occupies,

01:06:00or has,

01:06:01the same experience,

01:06:02of a person,

01:06:03who became,

01:06:04at the end of his life,

01:06:06as can happen,

01:06:07and then,

01:06:09he is asked,

01:06:11and then,

01:06:13some,

01:06:14They are happier,

01:06:15and more joy,

01:06:16And he says,

01:06:18Yeah,

01:06:19but none of them,

01:06:21He knows he has it,

01:06:23because,

01:06:26the one who died,

01:06:27with a holiness,

01:06:29immense,

01:06:31experience joy,

01:06:32immense,

01:06:33and the one who died,

01:06:35and became,

01:06:36ten minutes earlier,

01:06:37experience joy,

01:06:39immense,

01:06:41and then,

01:06:42What are the levels?

01:06:44and then,

01:06:45he,

01:06:45He uses a phrase,

01:06:47in Latin,

01:06:47Let's see if I can get it to work.

01:06:49Let's see if he doesn't see it.

01:06:49David's father,

01:06:50and then he lives on,

01:06:51correcting my poor Latin,

01:06:52TRUE?

01:06:57In a way,

01:06:59rechipo,

01:07:00Oh,

01:07:00He's already gone.

01:07:01let's see,

01:07:03Well,

01:07:08I'm going to say it in Spanish,

01:07:09because otherwise,

01:07:09I'll probably water it,

01:07:13I think it is,

01:07:14containers,

01:07:15recipitur,

01:07:16ad modus,

01:07:17containers,

01:07:18recipit,

01:07:19What does that mean?

01:07:21the container,

01:07:23receives,

01:07:24what was received,

01:07:25according to,

01:07:26the receptor,

01:07:28that is to say,

01:07:30If I take,

01:07:31a glass,

01:07:34and I put it on,

01:07:35right up to the edge,

01:07:36How is the glass?

01:07:38full,

01:07:39And if I take,

01:07:41a water tank,

01:07:42and fill it,

01:07:44How is the water tank?

01:07:4810 minutes earlier,

01:07:50a life of holiness,

01:07:52They will both feel fulfilled,

01:07:55What's he going to say?

01:07:56I am filled with God,

01:07:59And what is he going to say?

01:08:00when it is found,

01:08:01to the other saint,

01:08:02I too am filled with God,

01:08:04But there are levels,

01:08:06but neither of them,

01:08:10neither of them,

01:08:11he knows,

01:08:12than the other,

01:08:13It's a small glass,

01:08:14and the other,

01:08:14It's a water tank,

01:08:15I don't know if I'm explaining myself well,

01:08:19That's the explanation.

01:08:21is left over,

01:08:21Regarding this matter of the third heaven,

01:08:23of the levels,

01:08:24that is in heaven,

01:08:27so,

01:08:28who has lived,

01:08:29a saint,

01:08:30bigger,

01:08:32He will receive from God,

01:08:33a lot more,

01:08:34his,

01:08:36ad modus,

01:08:37rechipientis,

01:08:38rechipitur,

01:08:40TRUE?

01:08:40in the style,

01:08:41to the model,

01:08:42to the size of the container,

01:08:44That's how it's received,

01:08:45the large water tank,

01:08:49rechipit,

01:08:50rechipientis,

01:08:51rechipitur,

01:08:55I already,

01:08:55They already got me here,

01:08:57my,

01:08:58we have here,

01:08:59I have my prompter,

01:08:59TRUE?

01:09:02rechipit,

01:09:02rechipientis,

01:09:04rechipitur,

01:09:05so,

01:09:06So,

01:09:07already,

01:09:07They're not going to,

01:09:08He's not going to tell me anything.

01:09:09Father David,

01:09:09When I see this,

01:09:10This video,

01:09:11that's why,

01:09:16it's worth it,

01:09:17holiness,

01:09:18siblings,

01:09:19you,

01:09:19What do you want to be?

01:09:21A thimble?

01:09:24a little horse,

01:09:25Those tequila ones?

01:09:26Or do you want to be a water tank?

01:09:31those of,

01:09:32200 liters,

01:09:33or I don't know how much,

01:09:34Ah?

01:09:36the greatest,

01:09:38it isn't true,

01:09:39the greatest,

01:09:39it just can't be,

01:09:40because the Virgin Mary has it,

01:09:41They're fried.

01:09:42so they cannot aspire to that,

01:09:43Yeah?

01:09:44They're fried there.

01:09:46She does have the biggest one of all,

01:09:49but,

01:09:50from there down,

01:09:52TRUE?

01:09:52surely Saint Joseph,

01:09:54It's getting there,

01:09:55TRUE?

01:09:57What do you want to be?

01:10:00Many people want to be,

01:10:01a little horse,

01:10:03It wants to be a thimble,

01:10:05No,

01:10:05I'm going to give it my all.

01:10:06I'm getting there more or less,

01:10:09You don't know what you're missing.

01:10:11because it starts to get crowded,

01:10:13From now on,

01:10:14It starts to grow from now on,

01:10:16this capacity to love,

01:10:18Because remember that,

01:10:19which,

01:10:19This place is full of,

01:10:20siblings,

01:10:21It's love,

01:10:23It's love,

01:10:26I mean,

01:10:26When you die,

01:10:27is,

01:10:28You are already filled with this love,

01:10:29and nothing else becomes complete,

01:10:30It's done perfectly,

01:10:32that's why,

01:10:34it's worth it,

01:10:40People are asked,

01:10:43in the sky,

01:10:45Will we recognize each other?

01:10:47Are we going to meet?

01:10:52and the answer,

01:10:53Yeah,

01:10:53because?

01:10:54because it is a true resurrection,

01:10:56Mari tells us,

01:10:59my experience,

01:11:01the experience of many others,

01:11:02and the biblical texts,

01:11:05They confirm that yes,

01:11:06which definitely,

01:11:07We will recognize each other in heaven,

01:11:09And of course,

01:11:11We will see our loved ones,

01:11:14the overall experience,

01:11:16of all those who die,

01:11:17and they return,

01:11:19It is at the entrance to heaven,

01:11:21They have come to greet them,

01:11:23loved ones,

01:11:24We'll talk about this on Thursday.

01:11:26We'll talk about this on Thursday.

01:11:29above all,

01:11:30for the people who have lost,

01:11:31a loved one,

01:11:32knowing that they will find them there,

01:11:35which will be part of,

01:11:36from his own family,

01:11:37living now,

01:11:38eternally,

01:11:39in fullness,

01:11:39siblings,

01:11:40This is a,

01:11:41great comfort,

01:11:42Imagine,

01:11:44the poor parents,

01:11:45who lose a child,

01:11:47TRUE,

01:11:49knowing that they will find him,

01:11:51that they will recover it,

01:11:52TRUE,

01:11:55My mother lost a baby.

01:11:57between,

01:11:58between my sister,

01:12:00Maru,

01:12:01and my brother Enrique,

01:12:02lost a baby,

01:12:03I mean,

01:12:04I have six siblings,

01:12:06one is already in heaven,

01:12:07and five,

01:12:09We're still putting up a fight here,

01:12:12But when it arrives,

01:12:14to heaven,

01:12:16He'll be waiting for me there.

01:12:19And the most beautiful thing,

01:12:22I'm going to meet him.

01:12:24And he'll know,

01:12:25that I am his brother,

01:12:26And I'll know,

01:12:28that he is my brother,

01:12:32and it will not be,

01:12:33Well, that little embryo,

01:12:34who died,

01:12:35in my mother's womb,

01:12:36it will be,

01:12:37a being,

01:12:38like all of us,

01:12:41in the sky,

01:12:43we will be complete,

01:12:45according to God's plan,

01:12:47There will be no diseases,

01:12:49nor illnesses,

01:12:51we will be,

01:12:52perfect beings,

01:12:54as it is,

01:12:55If you lost an arm,

01:12:59one leg,

01:13:01Yeah,

01:13:02You were crushed,

01:13:04for one,

01:13:04in an earthquake,

01:13:06if you were evaporated,

01:13:07in one,

01:13:08atomic explosion,

01:13:11you will recover,

01:13:13absolutely,

01:13:16all your members,

01:13:18all,

01:13:19you,

01:13:19you will be,

01:13:20perfect,

01:13:21this,

01:13:23this,

01:13:23This is wonderful,

01:13:24further,

01:13:25bigger,

01:13:25more beautiful,

01:13:27We'll talk,

01:13:28from this,

01:13:29again,

01:13:29tomorrow,

01:13:30and a little bit,

01:13:31Thursday,

01:13:33about this experience,

01:13:34of the reconstruction,

01:13:36This experience,

01:13:37how God,

01:13:38He will recover,

01:13:40completely,

01:13:41our lives,

01:13:42and how,

01:13:43we will be,

01:13:43in fullness,

01:13:44and in perfection,

01:13:46when,

01:13:46Let's be,

01:13:47in the sky,

01:13:48Well,

01:13:50Well, that's all for now.

01:13:51a bit,

01:13:51the reconstruction,

01:13:53which is heaven,

01:13:56this dimension,

01:13:58Let's smell,

01:13:59Yeah,

01:13:59we're going to feel,

01:14:00Yeah,

01:14:00we'll be able to eat,

01:14:01It seems so,

01:14:02We are going to live,

01:14:03in a house,

01:14:04Well, it seems so.

01:14:05say,

01:14:05I wish,

01:14:05TRUE,

01:14:07we don't know,

01:14:08but,

01:14:09Well, for all these reasons,

01:14:09what we have,

01:14:11heard today,

01:14:13Well, most likely,

01:14:14that it will be so,

01:14:15No,

01:14:16that we can have,

01:14:17This experience,

01:14:18complete,

01:14:19full,

01:14:20so much,

01:14:21we long for here,

01:14:22TRUE,

01:14:23we long to have,

01:14:24a beautiful house,

01:14:25not to suffer,

01:14:26to be free from ailments,

01:14:27to be able to eat,

01:14:28without harming us,

01:14:30not to get sick,

01:14:31in the end,

01:14:32Everything will be alright,

01:14:33fullness,

01:14:34all that,

01:14:35with what we have dreamed of,

01:14:36everything we've thought of,

01:14:38that,

01:14:39and much more,

01:14:40it will be,

01:14:41our experience,

01:14:42up there in heaven,

01:14:44So, well,

01:14:45well,

01:14:47we stayed,

01:14:47With these ideas,

01:14:48TRUE,

01:14:49We already saw,

01:14:50that the project,

01:14:50It is love,

01:14:52that we can,

01:14:52and we must,

01:14:53to begin with,

01:14:53to fill us up,

01:14:54of this love,

01:14:55that there is an enemy,

01:14:56bad,

01:14:57that I would look for,

01:14:57that we didn't have this,

01:14:58but that we had,

01:14:59exactly,

01:15:00Quite the opposite,

01:15:02and that God,

01:15:03truly,

01:15:03has prepared,

01:15:04something wonderful,

01:15:06inexplicable,

01:15:07so that we,

01:15:08Let's enjoy it,

01:15:10all our eternity,

01:15:12so that we may be,

01:15:13eternally,

01:15:15and perfectly,

01:15:17happy,

01:15:18it's worth it,

01:15:20TRUE,

01:15:20I was saying,

01:15:21Paul said,

01:15:21in his letter to the Romans,

01:15:23any suffering,

01:15:25any deprivation,

01:15:26any situation,

01:15:27of this life,

01:15:28it's worth it,

01:15:30if we,

01:15:31we compared it,

01:15:32with glory,

01:15:33that must be manifested,

01:15:34in each one,

01:15:35of us.

01:15:36that must be manifested,

01:15:52that must be manifested,

01:15:53which is a road,

01:15:54that has been manifested,

Día 2 Voy a prepararles un lugar - Padre Ernesto Caro

Categoría

Transcripción

Recomendada