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Luka mereka masih berdarah, meskipun rejim Assad di Syria sudah tumbang.
Pelarian Syria di Malaysia berkongsi kisah tentang kehilangan dan harapan serta membina kehidupan baharu di tanah asing bersama Nurul Izzah Anwar dan Shahril Hamdan.
Pelarian Syria di Malaysia berkongsi kisah tentang kehilangan dan harapan serta membina kehidupan baharu di tanah asing bersama Nurul Izzah Anwar dan Shahril Hamdan.
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00:00I love you.
00:30Alhamdulillah, we're here again, well, I datang lagi to Jasmine Assyam.
00:47It is not my first time, but I'm here because we are going to meet the wonderful teachers
00:53and students who are seeking refuge here and securing the education and are top scorers,
01:00MashaAllah, in IGCSE, but they are mostly Syrians who have been here since January 2016.
01:08So it's a mixture, I think in total the school has educated about 500 people, but with what's
01:15happening in Syria today, I think it's important to know that you might meet the Syrian much
01:21closer here in Kuala Lumpur and we probably should know more about the plight, the things
01:29that they have to face on a day-to-day basis and how difficult it is for them just to study,
01:35just to be educated.
01:38I'm here as a Malaysian people who are passionate about how to manage the budget of the race
01:48and how we as a community, what's the hand-jawab of us for the races that come from a place
01:56that has conflict.
01:57So, that's the purpose of my life to do this and this is one of the things that I have to
02:03understand more about their lives in Malaysia.
02:07It's more of, I guess, our effort to at least show a side of what the refugee experience is, and then it's
02:16up to Malaysians, how they want to judge, and what the pendirian of them.
02:20Because they have their own experience, right, about interactions with refugees, but what we
02:25like to do is at least shed light to what it is for children, in this school, and then
02:32in other locations.
02:33What is the actual experience, right?
02:35And at least give a dimension of that, and then people can make up their minds.
02:39But I like to think that in Malaysia, we have the courage to help people, even if they
02:46are not Malaysians.
02:47That's what we're trying to do.
02:48That's what we're trying to do.
02:50That's what we're trying to do.
02:52.
03:05Have you been here from how old were you?
03:08I was five years old when I came home.
03:13The entire formal education has been in this?
03:15Yeah, I started, I was kindergarten when I started. I used to study in Smart Trader Kids.
03:23But so far, I've been mostly in this school since I was grade 2. I came here when I was grade 2 and now I'm grade 11.
03:31How's the experience in this school?
03:33It was very, very fun experience.
03:36Yeah, it was a good experience, you know. I'm mostly like raised here, you know.
03:43Even all of my education, I've been studying in Jasmin Assham.
03:48This is even the previous location of the school, yeah.
03:52Yeah, I think I went to the previous location.
03:55What's your hope, you know, that you're here, you're about to finish your exams, inshaAllah.
04:02What's your hope being in Malaysia? Because we know there are challenges.
04:07My hope in Malaysia is that Syrians, for example, would be given opportunities, more opportunities to work.
04:18Because it's very difficult for Syrians here to work.
04:22If you have a UN card, it's basically impossible for a person to work.
04:29And it's impossible for someone with a family that can survive here using the UN support.
04:37It's not enough for them to live, yeah.
04:39So, as you can see, like many people are working illegally.
04:44But they have to, you know, they cannot do anything.
04:46Yeah, and I hope that the awareness spread that, yeah, inshaAllah.
04:52Do you intend to try and stay here longer, or do you want to go back home now?
04:57I would probably go back to Syria, inshaAllah.
05:01It's been a long time. It's my home, it's my country.
05:04So, inshaAllah, after things come down there, I would hope to go back to Syria.
05:10And I hope everyone can come back to Syria and we can rebuild our country again.
05:15So, I want to know, like, is science your favourite subject?
05:33Yes, we did and no one we did.
05:37It's okay, it's okay. I like science.
05:39The boys don't like science.
05:40Like, I love science.
05:41But, yeah, not everyone does. My son doesn't.
05:44So, my son's 15, so I understand.
05:49You can tell the truth.
05:50Yes, it's okay.
05:51Which is your favourite subject?
05:53Teacher.
05:54He likes to teach you.
05:55Oh, Alhamdulillah.
05:58Yeah.
05:59So, what is your favourite subject?
06:02Here, at Jasmin Asham.
06:05All the same favourite.
06:07All of them the same.
06:08Yes, I can say a buddy politician here.
06:10Yeah, I was going to say.
06:11But, you like all the subjects?
06:13Yes.
06:14Alhamdulillah.
06:15Oh.
06:16Hello.
06:17Hello.
06:18Boleh.
06:20Next, kita akan gerak terus kat foundation.
06:23Sebelum ni, kita memang tak ada kelas foundation.
06:25Foundation ni adalah budak yang buta huruf.
06:27So, budak-budak yang buta huruf yang tak boleh membaca dan juga tak boleh mengira.
06:33Jadi...
06:34Umur pelbagai.
06:35So, kat sini kita akan ajar dua subjek.
06:38English dan juga Maths.
06:40So, once diorang dah boleh berbahasa English dan juga boleh mengira.
06:44So, kita akan terus up kan diorang ke grade.
06:47Secondary, secondary atau primary.
06:49Diorang akan go to primary lah.
06:50Pengajaran tu macam mana?
06:52How do you ajak?
06:53So, memang kita akan ajar the basic A, B, C.
06:56Ah, sampai diorang boleh sebut.
06:57Sampai diorang boleh sebut.
06:58Sampai diorang boleh hija.
06:59InsyaAllah.
07:00Itu kita akan ajar diorang.
07:01Orang basic macam mana, tambah.
07:03Macam kita ajar saja satu.
07:04Okay.
07:05Asalkan diorang berapa pegang basic tu je.
07:07Yes.
07:08Betul.
07:17I want to ask the same person IC update.
07:18Is it possible to get the IC?
07:20It is very, very difficult.
07:21And under government policy right now,
07:24no, they don't give out ICs.
07:26But the first step is a PR.
07:31And that also comes with conditions.
07:33Usually, the ones that have been applying,
07:36they have an existing family member here.
07:39Nonetheless, there is a special program for Syrian refugees.
07:42So, what they can do,
07:43they can stay here for a particular extended period of time.
07:46And they can work in Malaysia.
07:48We are trying to get the same thing for Palestinians.
07:51So, for me, after this we are going to visit Maher.
07:55They are working very closely with the Ministry of Home Affairs.
08:00But that's why we wanted to do this episode.
08:04And Awani agreed.
08:06Because we wanted to at least highlight that, you know,
08:10maybe I'm Malaysian, but it's by chance, right?
08:13I could also be coming from another country where there's a war erupting.
08:18And then suddenly I find myself in a foreign country.
08:21And I'm like, hey, I want to be like a Pilates instructor.
08:25But I don't have an IC.
08:27You know, what do I do?
08:28How do I get this easily?
08:29So, that's why sometimes we are the same, as you know.
08:33But then, people see us or see themselves as different.
08:38So, Shariel and I are trying to kind of bring home to the fact that
08:42we're just like, you know, slaves of Allah.
08:45And we just want to make sure, as human beings,
08:48you get the chance, the same chance, basic chance, as everyone else.
08:53But yeah.
08:54But what we want to do along the lines of what she said,
08:57is to try and influence policy in an indirect way.
09:02By showing the stories and the plight and the challenges of yourselves
09:08and your fellow refugees.
09:11And to shed light what those lives are actually like.
09:16And hopefully, through this kind of platform, this kind of program,
09:21there will be a slow change in thinking about how we treat refugees.
09:26And I think there's been a really good set of things that are already happening.
09:30You know, all the good stuff here.
09:31The fact that we have the Syrian program, for example.
09:34And even though we don't fully recognize the UN card,
09:37but in effect, you know, it gives you a certain status
09:41which allows you to go about your everyday lives to a certain extent.
09:46So, we're not saying that Malaysia is so bad at doing this.
09:49It's just that it can be so much better.
09:51And that's what people like her and I are trying to do.
10:07What do you think?
10:09Okay.
10:10Kami dibiayai atau dapat fund daripada orang luar,
10:12ataupun syarikat corporate lah.
10:14Ataupun kalau katakan ada individu-individu yang datang
10:18untuk memberikan dana lah.
10:20The rest, kita hanya sustain kepada urine lah.
10:25Tapi nak katakan macam tuan katalah,
10:27urine sahaja pun tak cukup.
10:29Dan kita tahu juga,
10:30dan ada juga,
10:31kalau ikutkan daripada list kami,
10:32140 student,
10:34ada lebih kurang 20 student.
10:3620 student yang tepas,
10:38yang tak dapat bayar secara langsung.
10:40Even satu sen pun.
10:42Dan,
10:43so kami,
10:44nak tak nak,
10:45kita kena teruskan mereka juga,
10:46sebab mereka ada potensi,
10:47dan mereka juga,
10:48di antara top-top student kami dalam Jasper Aisyam.
10:50Please.
10:51Please.
11:08Kalau respon saya,
11:09of course saya kecati.
11:10Even though,
11:11di dalam Jasper Aisyam ni,
11:12ada sahaja yang,
11:13sebab kami ni berada dekat dalam kawasan elite.
11:15Dan,
11:16certain of people,
11:17ataupun orang-orang,
11:18ada je datang kat sekolah,
11:20dan berikan,
11:21negatif perkataan,
11:22untuk Jasper Aisyam.
11:26Kemudian,
11:27kita hanya berada dengan,
11:28ok, normal lah.
11:30Kita kena ada,
11:32terutama,
11:33kerana,
11:34ialah,
11:35ialah,
11:36ialah,
11:37ialah,
11:38ialah,
11:39ialah,
11:40ialah,
11:41ialah,
11:42ialah,
11:43ialah,
11:44ialah,
11:45ialah,
11:46ialah,
11:47ialah,
11:48ialah,
11:51tanpa,
12:18I have a look at the people of Malaysia that they are not just our partner, but they are also helping us all the time, they are all the same.
12:48First of all, shelter, then protection, of course, protection, pass that legal for living in Malaysia.
12:57And then, from the terms of food, we must ensure that everyone has enough food, healthy and healthy.
13:08So, I want to highlight that we have no problem with criminal cases from our team.
13:22Just zero percent.
13:25Then, everyone is working, and there are some graduates and graduates.
13:30There are some people who are working with Jobstreet.
13:34There are some people who are working with Microsoft.
13:50Most of them are restaurants.
13:53There are some people that we will see later.
13:58Al-Homsi, family.
14:01There are 8 people who came to Malaysia.
14:04There are 5 people in our program.
14:06They are currently in Zanzibar.
14:09Export kelapa sawit.
14:12In Zanzibar, can you imagine?
14:14Syrian refugees can do this.
14:16That's the thing.
14:17That's the thing.
14:18From my point of view, the Syrians themselves are very enterprising.
14:26And, of course, they have what we call Arab pride.
14:31They want to take care of their families.
14:33They don't want their families to be like in the bag of the program.
14:39all the time. So, they want to work. That's what we call it, which is the truth to work.
15:09To answer why it cannot be duplicated, it can be duplicated. It needs political will. That's why this program happened in 2016.
15:30We have to come from the leadership. They want it to happen. That is how this thing holds until today.
15:39There are several times that the program has been taken to close.
15:47And that's it. Overall, Alhamdulillah, it's been seven years that we've been managing them.
15:54We have our ups and downs during Covid. It's the most difficult time. We had 16 staff before.
16:06During Covid, we go down only two, me and Hakimi, running the whole show.
16:12And because of a lot of issues, funding and those kind of things. But Alhamdulillah, now that everything is back in line.
16:21We thank the President of the government also, who can see the program is a good program,
16:29where it will be combined until 2026.
16:32How do you feel after the fall of the regime? I think that's the most pressing question that many people are wondering.
16:38How do you feel after the fall of the regime?
16:55I think that's the most pressing question that many people are wondering.
17:00And of course from outside we have our own views and we support and fully want you to
17:06enjoy this moment of grief, but tell us.
17:11When we came to Malaysia, we were unsecured. Not because of Malaysia, no.
17:16Because of regime. Even if my husband would say hello to me, is he?
17:22Is it safe to say hello to him or not? Is it safe to talk or not?
17:26We're scared, you know. Like our children, from the first, you know.
17:31We stayed in Malaysia for three years. Every Merdeka, my children, when the Merdeka, you know, Merdeka day, like airplane, airplane go.
17:42My children five years, they run under the table and like, they're going to bomb us.
17:48Assad coming to bomb us, even in Malaysia. You know, this feeling makes us down.
17:55And we cannot trust much the others. December 2013, I came to Malaysia, you know.
18:02I was the one saying we shouldn't leave Syria. We have to fight. We have to do a lot for Syria.
18:09But we couldn't. We couldn't. The knife just came to my neck.
18:15We slaughtered the people like, like, like, like, like, like a sheep, like, you know, and eat Al-Atha, you know, like, Bismillah, Allahu Akbar, you know.
18:22I came, I went back to my house, naked, no clothes, bleeding. It was horrible.
18:30They stole my car, they stole everything, and just, you know, they throw me like beanbags, you know.
18:37Who's going to take care of this? No one, you know.
18:41We are, I'm, I'm in my house, suddenly the Syrian army come to our area.
18:46I'm, I'm still, I'm married new at that time. I have one daughter, Farah, it's only six months, years.
18:52Subhanallah, the Syrian army come to our building.
18:56Wallahi, all houses cut all people from neck. Except my house, why? Wallahi, nobody can believe.
19:03I have my daughter six months. When the soldier come to my house, Wallahi, I have knife in his pocket and blood.
19:09Just, they want to kill. My daughter, walk, walk, you know, to the soldier, and he say,
19:16Oh, you have beautiful lady. Okay, you, I like her. Because I like her, she looks like my daughter.
19:24I will keep you alive. And you stay in your house. He keep me in one room, small room, and a clock.
19:31If you, I see you, you open the windows or anything, I will kill you. Wallahi, all buildings. I stay in, all down.
19:37I'm really touched by some of your personal stories. Like, both of you were very close to death.
19:42Basically, moments away from death. And, but, by the grace of Allah, you were spared.
19:47What does that do to you, as people? How do you view life now?
19:52Now, relaxing. Happy.
19:57Since 10 days, right? I'll tell you how.
19:59Since 10 days. You know, Sunday, 8th of December. This is the birthday for every Syrian people.
20:04This is our birthday, 8th of December. We went to embassy. We celebrate in embassy.
20:10So, when my wife, when my wife woke me up, 5 o'clock, 5.20, saying, get up, you know.
20:17Homs, gone. You know. I wake up like, you know. If you remember, all of us, if you remember Hari Raya.
20:23Morning. How do you feel Hari Raya morning? And you have your new clothes next to you.
20:28And you dream about the Hari Raya. That you feel so happy, right?
20:32So, I had this feeling. For a long time, I'm 15 years old. For a long time, I didn't have this feeling. You know.
20:40I feel like a young boy. Happy. Exciting. Get up. Like, you know. Watch the TV. Back again.
20:49Chevalier. Back again. I went to sleep. I'm like, get up. Ya Allah. InshaAllah, it's not a dream.
20:56Everywhere you go, you see the photos of Al-Assad. They want people, actually, to worship them.
21:05They don't want people to, like, perform their religion. Everyone, like, he has a little bit long beard.
21:14They will capture him, get him to the security agents. They will capture him, maybe put him in the prisons.
21:25Like, some videos, you know. They hold the beard. The beard and the...
21:30Pull it out. You see? In the media, you know. They hold the sheikh, you know. Like, you can see any long beard. They hold it and take it off.
21:39Correct. So, they don't want people to perform their religions.
21:44Yeah. And then they were really, like, trying to play on the minority of... in Syria.
21:50We... all... all the time in Syria, actually, we... we... we... we... we live in harmony, actually.
21:55Muslims, besides Christians. And then our... our neighbors are Christians. They feel safe before this regime came to Syria.
22:06Then they try to frighten these minorities to scare them all. These people, they want to come and, like, do something bad.
22:15But you see... I don't know if you see some videos from Aleppo or from... even Damascus.
22:22Christians now, they perform their... their religions, like, in peaceful way.
22:27They don't scare from the fighters that they came to the cities. And then they're happy what happened to Syria, yeah.
22:34Can we close off just by sharing your experiences in Malaysia so far?
22:39And their hopes.
22:40Yeah, and your hopes for the future.
22:42In Malaysia.
22:43I hope that... all of us... we go back to Syria when everything is recycled and it's safe to go back.
22:51And we rebuild our country. And, yeah, I hope Syria, one day, to become like Malaysia, seriously.
22:58We really live in here, Malaysia, and we see how nice is this country, how developed.
23:05And, yeah, I hope that one day, Syria become like Malaysia.
23:08For me, we have to learn from Malaysia how to live our country.
23:15How to build, for example, our economy system, infrastructure.
23:24So, there are a lot of experiences from Malaysia to bring us to our country.
23:29That's it.
23:30I want to be safe, insyaAllah, the house that has been built back.
23:34So, it's beautiful like that before, it's already.
23:37People can go back, they can live like usual.
23:41This is what we want.
23:43And we want to ask from Malaysia to open their homes and go back to their homes.
23:49So, they will be able to build their homes.
23:51We want to build the homes and go back to their homes and their homes.
23:54Wow.
23:55So, when's the beginning of their homes and us,
23:57what is that they areled?
24:00I was one of my friends who would take a home and be able to build their homes
24:01and make a home, you know,
24:02imagined how to live.
24:03I was about to live in a life of their homes and their homes.
24:05And, we're all about to live in a home.
24:06When you were to live in the home,
24:09You had to live in the home,
24:10We were to live in the home and live in the home,
24:12We had to live in a home and live in the home.
24:15At the top of the top, there is no hope for...
24:19There is no status.
24:21There is no hope for success in life.
24:24But, we can pass out a lot of different kinds of things
24:28to achieve a good life, a good life.
24:32So, what is the reason for us?
24:34That's my reflection.
24:36If people like that are difficult,
24:39they can also be successful in life,
24:43and they can't put up a good life.
24:46And that's the story of hope.
24:48So, instead of a story of despair, it's a story of hope.
24:50And, for me, it's the story of inspiration and the inti that
24:56I, as a person, can get some hope for people like that.
25:00I feel happy.
25:02Maybe, that's the desire to be shown by the people of Malaysia
25:07who help them.
25:09There is a visa teacher from Jasmin Ashyam.
25:14She is the one who helps us the school.
25:16She is the one who can teach.
25:20And, Jizmi.
25:22Because the program, the training, it's not only from the
25:38It's the one who takes care of us.
25:41I hope that people in Malaysia don't always let the rights of the Kerajaan
25:48but the Rakyat Malaysia, if there is a little bit of a
25:52to think about what we can do to help the pelarian
25:58although we can say that there is a negative thing about the pelarian
26:04but the important thing is that we can raise the kerajaan like here
26:08where pelarian yang duduk kat Malaysia membantu balik ekonomi Malaysia
26:14Moga-moga rezeki kita bertambah dengan cara kita memberi ruang
26:19macam mereka dapat bekerja di restoran Damascus
26:23dan kita memberi lebih banyak kelengkapan lah untuk kehidupan bersama
26:29That's my hope dan I rasa banyak yang kita boleh kemaluas dan harap-harap
26:33kalau masa pandemik kita sebut whole of society approach
26:37dalam bab ni sebenarnya memerlukan whole of society approach juga
26:42dan kalau dulu gandingan CSO, civil society
26:46maka ekosistem saya harap dapat dilebarluaskan
26:49supaya gandingan dengan NGO dan CSO itu dapat guna-guna pakai
26:54untuk menurunkan bantuan
26:55birbantuan yang terakhir
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