00:00I went to 43 funerals that year and one of them was Derek's in the February but that was what our
00:07life was like then and it bears repeating because I know that there's a younger generation that has
00:12somehow missed out on knowing enough about it. You know we've just heard the news reported that
00:18there's a new approach to the treatment of HIV and it's poignant for us who lived through that
00:24to know that it isn't necessarily a death sentence it was at a certain point and
00:30yeah that that as an as a young person that was a sort of bedrock of a lot of of my creative life.