00:00I think that's the worst part of it.
00:02The worst part of it is that you're ranking teams based on what they did last year
00:09or what their recruiting class is, and nobody played a damn game yet.
00:13Yeah, I agree.
00:14But for ESPN, for Fox, for ABC, for the ACC Network, for the SEC Network,
00:26for all these, the rankings is what sells.
00:30Early on in the season, the game, week zero, one versus five, two versus eight,
00:38that all sells.
00:39So if you didn't have those rankings.
00:43Yeah, I think that's what they think.
00:45It's an interesting question.
00:47I'm not saying that that's wrong from them,
00:48but I also think that college football has become such a monster
00:52and that there are so many big people know who the big teams are.
00:56I don't know if they do need it anymore.
00:57I feel like in today's day and age, I don't know if they do.
01:01I don't know if you follow you hearing the way these games are sold,
01:06the way they're promoted, the way game day goes to schools,
01:09the way they do all these things.
01:11We gave you a – you said, yeah, they would still go to Miami FSU.
01:16I don't know.
01:18Not if there was a more, you know, desirable location,
01:23but the rankings makes it desirable.
01:27I think the better argument would be if it was Miami, Virginia.
01:31You know, like I think a rivalry game is always going to be a rivalry.
01:33Okay.
01:33And I think if anything, I think that those –
01:35I think sometimes the rankings would be a hindrance to it, you know?
01:38Here.
01:38And I use this as an example when we're off air.
01:41How many times have we gone to see – game day of going to Indiana?
01:45They're the number one seed.
01:46Yeah, Indiana is a good example, but I think that's just on brand.
01:51Like, Indiana has been good the last two years.
01:53Okay, but that's why the rankings matter.
01:55Like, you could just –
01:56The rankings matter because it's not just brand.
01:58Right, right, right.
01:59But you could sell it better.
02:01Like, people could do it and say, hey, the defending Big Ten champs are taking on –
02:05You can say that now.
02:06Yeah, no, no, no.
02:07But I'm saying before this year –
02:08We're selling games next year.
02:09But before this year, right, as the season was playing on,
02:14everybody in the country was saying the same thing I was saying.
02:18Indiana, cute story, but they always start off 5-0, 6-0, right?
02:23They're not sellable yet.
02:26In fact, it was only up until when they played Penn State maybe,
02:31but then you realize Penn State sucked.
02:34When they got to the Big Ten championship, then Indiana.
02:38And it took a whole football season for them to get the same –
02:42I think the thing is, though, like, do we need –
02:44We're so football hungry at that point, right?
02:46Like, we're not talking never rankings.
02:48I'm saying, like, let's give a month of, like, four football games.
02:52Do we need four football games?
02:54Because you're going to have one big game.
02:56You're going to have two cupcakes.
02:57Everyone's going to do two cupcakes and then probably start your conference schedule, right?
03:01If you waited a month, do we really need to sell football like that?
03:05Like, that badly?
03:06With the rankings.
03:08You're talking about two different factions of NCAA football, okay?
03:16There's the people that want those rankings who have bought the rights
03:20and spent the billions of dollars for all that.
03:23And then maybe it's the NCAA that would say, you know what?
03:27We might be better served to wait before we have these ridiculous rankings early in the year
03:33because as we've seen year after year, that early season rankings don't usually play out.
03:44Yeah.
03:44That being said, you go to the people paying the billion dollars and say,
03:48we're not going to have rankings.
03:49If that's what they believe is what's selling people watching these games,
03:56or you can do this instead of having two or three games the first couple of weeks of big-time games,
04:06then you do inter-conference matchups for each year.
04:11It's all going to change, it feels like.
04:13Because even Alabama is changing the whole we're going to play big teams now.
04:16I feel like they're going to go away from that.
04:19Strength of schedule is what gets you in with three losses, okay?
04:25Strength of schedule is what gets you out being 11-2 with only two losses.
04:32And that's the reality of it.
04:34And so I'm not mad if teams try to play tougher competition because of that,
04:42but look at Miami's schedule.
04:45They didn't have a cupcake season.
04:47The teams just end up sucking.
04:49That's not their fault.
04:51You schedule these teams five years in advance.
04:54Did you know five years ago Florida State was going to be this?
04:59Or Florida.
04:59Or Florida?
05:01So you go Florida, Florida State.
05:04What did they have, USF or UCF?
05:05They had USF.
05:07USF was ranked, right?
05:09They got heartline now.
05:10Right.
05:11So they have all these, you know, before the season,
05:14everybody was talking about how tough Miami's schedule was.
05:18After the season, you're looking back and saying it's weak.
05:20Now, I would say this.
05:22You should get credit for beating a ranked team if they are ranked when you play.
05:28Don't then go at the end of the year.
05:30And take it back.
05:31Right.
05:31Because you're selling the two ranked teams.
05:34And then at the end of the year, if some team ends up being terrible,
05:38you don't get credit for that.
05:40Why should you be penalized?
05:42I get you.
05:42At the time.
05:43So guess what?
05:44Florida State was what?
05:45Top five?
05:48When you'd be talking about in the beginning of the season.
05:49When Miami played them.
05:51No, they weren't top five.
05:51They weren't top.
05:52They were ranked, though.
05:53They were ranked, but they weren't top five.
05:55So Florida State was ranked.
05:57Florida was ranked.
05:59Notre Dame was ranked.
06:01Now, you start off a season like that.
06:04And you start winning.
06:07You're moving up the list.
06:10You're moving up.
06:11Darrell says, damn.
06:12We are losers, though.
06:13Should have fired an APR a long time ago.
06:15Who do they got now?
06:16Who is that guy?
06:17They got the Tulane guy, right?
06:18Isn't he their coach now?
06:19I don't know.
06:20I think he's their coach now.
06:21So, like, so a lot of this, Miami got screwed, not by the system,
06:29not by where you were ranked and when you were ranked.
06:32But you got screwed because you're getting credit.
06:35And when you moved up, when they skyrocketed up the charts,
06:39it was because of all the ranked teams they beat.
06:43And they started the season off with three ranked teams in the first month.
06:48And then you lose all credibility at the end of the year to say they only beat one ranked team.
06:54No.
06:54If you're ranked at the time you play them, that's a ranked team.
06:58You beat a ranked team.
06:59I think the whole thing just needs to be, like, what's the best way to sell this to everybody
07:04but also not be stupid to get everybody in a lather, you know?
07:07I think you have to have the rankings.
07:09And I think that's what they want.
07:10Like, I think they want to treat us like hyenas.
07:11First of all, look, not for nothing,
07:15but the only thing Notre Dame has to offer is the money.
07:22And that's why everybody's scared of Notre Dame.
07:25That's it.
07:27You play three armed forces games every year.
07:30If any other school had done that, you'd be dismissing them in a heartbeat.
07:35Are we going to miss them?
07:36Like, no one's going to miss them.
07:37No!
07:37No one's going to miss them.
07:38No!
07:39Why do they need something in writing?
07:40You don't even need to play in a bowl.
07:42You know what?
07:42Don't play in a bowl.
07:43But guess what?
07:44You're not worthy of the Pop-Tart Bowl.
07:45Guess what?
07:46Don't.
07:47You know, if Miami had lost to Notre Dame
07:51and they were on the other side of that, right?
07:56You say, you know what?
07:58If you're going to be compared to another team
08:00and you lose to them, you got to kind of eat it.
08:05Yeah, of course.
08:05So I don't feel sorry for Notre Dame.
08:08I'm not going to be apologetic to Notre Dame, right?
08:12You play one or two ranked teams a year
08:15and you get launched up the rankings
08:18from beating Navy and Army and all these teams.
08:23Right.
08:23Let's say SMU would have kept going after the Canes
08:26and they would have ended up in the conference championship
08:27and they would have won.
08:28If they were the ACC rep, not much you can say.
08:31Right!
08:31Exactly.
08:32Not much you can say.
08:33Like, okay, at least we're having insane conversations.
08:35I can't believe Manny Diaz is a conference champion.
08:37Right.
08:38Danny Manny Diaz.
08:40This is crazy.
08:41What in the world are we living in?
08:42The ACC is so drunk.
08:45So.
08:45They really got to get their butt together.
08:47So I think I'm more annoyed by this
08:53is that only down here, only in Miami,
08:59could you get into the college football playoff
09:04and everybody's still bitching.
09:06Oh, we're not bitching anymore.
09:07We're happy.
09:08Like, but I told you this beforehand.
09:10They were emotionally manipulative.
09:12Wait.
09:13I told you this beforehand.
09:15Okay.
09:15You think I just arbitrarily made it up?
09:17You ever been in a bad relationship?
09:18No, I'm not.
09:19No, no, no.
09:19Hear me out.
09:20I told you.
09:21Just hear me out.
09:21I went out on a limb and gave you information
09:23to get you to relax.
09:24But I thought nobody relaxed.
09:26So you know what?
09:27That's why I don't like it's so infuriating
09:30to even wish well for you.
09:32If I knew I had the information from you
09:34that was trusted.
09:34Hold on.
09:35Hear me out.
09:35If I knew that and then I knew for sure,
09:38then I would be breaking your trust
09:39and I didn't want people knowing that I knew.
09:43Dude.
09:45I was trying to protect your sources.
09:47Dude.
09:49Give yourself a minus one now.
09:51Why?
09:51You know why.
09:52Why?
09:53You know why you flip floppy, fraudulent.
09:57This is fraudulent.
09:57No, that was not.
09:57I was protecting you.
09:59Poor flip floppery.
10:00What?
10:02If I knew, if people knew that I knew that you knew.
10:04I'm telling you.
10:06I know, but if you knew.
10:07You think I'm just making something like that up?
10:08Well, I just didn't want to break confidence for you.
10:11I wanted to keep yourself protected.
10:13If people knew that you knew and I got it from you,
10:16then all of a sudden, oh, well, this Leroy,
10:17they won't tell him anything anymore.
10:19I'm protecting your sources.
10:22Oh, my goodness.
10:23Why?
10:24If I act like I'm all calm,
10:27then that's, hey,
10:28it's a little suspicious.
10:32Brittany, I'm going to tell you something.
10:34Toba's my boy.
10:35What?
10:36We go way back.
10:37I would do anything for this man.
10:40Why do I always want to choke the life out of me?
10:43What?
10:44You know why.
10:45I just didn't want to.
10:46You know why.
10:47You know why.
10:49Oh, my goodness.
10:50If I would have gone on the radio the next day.
10:52No.
10:53No.
10:54I do this to give you comfort.
10:57And I break it down for you.
10:59And I explain to you what was going to happen.
11:01In fact, when the committee chair got up
11:06and explained why Miami was in over Notre Dame,
11:09did he not tell you word for word
11:11what I said to you last week?
11:12He did.
11:14And it still didn't matter.
11:16Well, here's the thing.
11:17No.
11:18Brittany.
11:19No.
11:19He kept giving me the notes,
11:21but I didn't like their notes.
11:25Dude.
11:25I didn't believe him either.
11:27He tried to tell me to.
11:29I wasn't listening.
11:30He gave me a shirt.
11:31At least I'm admitting it.
11:34You're mad at us because we are admitting to you
11:35that we didn't.
11:37Brittany.
11:37Do you understand why I sometimes get so mad down here
11:41that I just root against you?
11:43Do you understand that?
11:45It's not nice.
11:46But when I give you the information
11:48and you'll still act like.
11:51I didn't want people thinking there was a leak.
11:53Can you admit?
11:54Can you admit?
11:56What do you mean?
11:58That's why.
11:59You are the worst.
12:00Oh, I didn't want to do that, dude.
12:02Oh, my goodness.
12:02That's not cool.
12:04Otherwise, they're going,
12:06huh, a little chatty Leroy on the radio
12:07telling everybody everything.
12:08He finally admits that he's a hater.
12:10That's not what I admitted.
12:12That's not what I admitted.
12:14Like, do you understand
12:16that some of the ridiculousness
12:19that you guys come out with
12:24kind of makes me just root against you?
12:27Not because I'm a Miami hater,
12:28but because I'm so tired
12:30of this foolishness.
12:32Ty's search says,
12:32Leroy, you were right,
12:34but Tobin's anger
12:35was completely justified.
12:36Why?
12:37I don't know.
12:39Because the only reason
12:41can I tell you why?
12:42The only reason why
12:43I did what I did
12:45was so you wouldn't be so angry.
12:48You understand this.
12:50So that you would realize.
12:51Are we talking about Saturday night
12:52or the whole time?
12:52No, the whole time.
12:53That wasn't helpful.
12:55Can I tell you why?
12:56Knowing, wait, wait.
12:59Knowing the answer?
13:02Knowing is not.
13:05All right.
13:06Because look how Notre Dame acts.
13:07I hate them.
13:09Look, I didn't.
13:11He says, you child,
13:12Miami getting in
13:13doesn't mean the system
13:14isn't broken.
13:15I never, at no point in time
13:17have I ever said
13:19that there wasn't a problem
13:21with the system.
13:22I will apologize.
13:22I never said that.
13:23Okay, I will apologize.
13:24But I just,
13:25from your perspective,
13:26from everybody getting
13:28so caught up
13:29on Notre Dame
13:30being above
13:31Miami,
13:34all I did
13:35was try to give you
13:36some comfort
13:37in saying
13:38it will work itself out.
13:41I mostly was
13:41just trusting your confidence
13:43and I didn't want to
13:44show your hand,
13:45but I will apologize
13:46publicly
13:46for saying you wear
13:48shamrock undies.
13:50I apologize.
13:51That went too far.
13:51That's where we went.
13:52That went too far.
13:53That went too far.
13:54That's where we went.
13:55That went too far.
13:55That's where we went.
13:56That went too far.
13:57I apologize for that.
13:58Everything else,
13:59I was protecting you
14:01and your intel.
14:03Dude.
14:06Dude.
14:07Look at their acting, though.
14:08I mean, like,
14:09could you understand
14:09why I hate them so much?
14:12Notre Dame's just like,
14:13like,
14:14they are so sniveling.
14:16Again,
14:16I hate them.
14:17I will say to Notre Dame
14:18the same thing
14:20I said
14:21to Miami
14:22three weeks ago.
14:25Stop complaining.
14:27Take care of your business.
14:29You had every opportunity
14:30to not have it
14:32come to the hands
14:33or be in the hands
14:34of a committee.
14:37Same thing I'll say
14:38to Notre Dame.
14:39Shut up.
14:41You had a chance
14:42to beat a team
14:44that moved ahead of you
14:45and you lost to them.
14:47Go play in the legal bowl
14:48with FSU.
14:49Go sue a conference
14:50or something.
14:51It's like,
14:51like,
14:52I guess you can't,
14:53so go sue yourself.
14:54How about that?
14:56How is that not a touchdown?
14:58Dude.
14:59How is that not a touchdown?
15:00He did a tap dance.
15:01I don't understand
15:01the rules anymore.
15:02He went,
15:02cha-cha-cha-cha-cha!
15:04I thought,
15:05hey,
15:06forever and for always
15:07is football not
15:07cross the plane,
15:08two hands,
15:09two steps.
15:10Football?
15:10Yeah.
15:11I don't know.
15:12I don't know.
