00:25This is Tim Walsberg from Fast Track Uncerted TV.
00:28I'm here in New Orleans for the New Orleans Film Festival.
00:31It seems like you guys improv'd a bit, played around with what it, but you had to keep with that
00:36truth, that core of what the story was about is finding who you are.
00:41It's an identity.
00:41Yeah, it is an identity piece.
00:43It is finding out who you are and exploring truth within those moments.
00:49Because it's a movie about making a movie, so it's also a movie about finding truth within acting, which I
00:54forgot who said.
00:55It's like being truthful in imaginary circumstances.
00:57So, for example, that scene when we're together in the bedroom, we had the dialogue written and scripted.
01:04Everything was scripted, but then when we were there, it just wasn't working.
01:09Something was not ringing truthful.
01:12So you just started improvising, and I was playing off of you, and we just came up with a scene
01:17on the spot.
01:18Is that where the owner, captain, you know?
01:21Oh, that was just, that was just, that was just us f***ing around.
01:27Yeah, I feel like a lot of the process was a lot of trust and a lot of time.
01:32Like, we took a lot of time to make it, you much more so than me, you know?
01:38And I feel like everyone was like, we're doing what?
01:40What are we doing?
01:41Oh, we're doing that?
01:42What are we doing?
01:43Okay, let's do it.
01:43You know, it was just like, okay, let's see what we do.
02:19Babe, have you seen my keys?
02:21I don't think so.
02:22Do you want some millet?
02:24No, I have to go.
02:25How are you?
02:26You good?
02:27Well, I started writing down this movie idea that I have, but it's not really making sense.
02:33Where are you going?
02:34Can I come work?
02:35Yeah, if you want to come help me counsel the classroom for the young women about how it's practically
02:41impossible to get an abortion in the state of Louisiana and how their reproductive rights
02:46are being stripped from them by men in power who hate women, then you can come.
02:54Where are my keys?
02:55Not necessarily punk, but it comes from the same principle, which is like, to be truthful
03:02as yourself, to speak, to have your freedom of speech and no matter what.
03:09But over there, punk means something very different than it meant in countries where there is freedom
03:15of speech, no matter how f***ed up things are.
03:20And what's going on, you're not necessarily going to be suddenly arrested in the middle
03:26of the night just because you said something.
03:28That sort of came together because he's the interest, the love interest, the subject here.
03:33Could you talk about him and go from there?
03:34He is the face, basically, of Myanmar modern-day punk rock.
03:41And for me, that represents all of the freedom that he stands for and non-compromise.
03:49But during the shooting of the film, it became like he's actually a real hero, you know, standing
03:56by his truth and singing about it at a great cost, risking a lot.
04:08One of the producers, Zuzana, she found him on Instagram, a picture of him and an article
04:15about him.
04:16I texted him via Instagram, he sent me those random directions to our punk show, which I
04:22followed, and that's the inception of the whole thing.
04:26Got it.
04:26That's the inception of the project.
04:28And then we hung out after, had a beautiful few days, and he had gone and stayed in touch.
04:33Wow.
04:33And for me, I think it was as much about him as it really was about what he stands for,
04:42that I was really fascinated and drawn to.
04:45He flits around like a butterfly from flower to flower, and he never follows through on anything,
04:52and you don't have time for that bullshit, right?
04:55You have a movie to finish.
04:57Or to start.
04:58All right.
05:12Hey.
05:13The matcha is making me more sleepy.
05:15Oh.
05:16Well, this is...
05:18I've got to finish it before tomorrow.
05:20It's too much.
05:21I've got an idea.
05:23And you will.
05:24You will finish, but here.
05:26Come sit here.
05:26Sit with me.
05:28Okay.
05:34That's not the exercise.
05:35Here's the exercise.
05:36Take a deep breath in.
05:43Or something along those lines, okay?
05:46You take a deep breath.
05:47You let the sound out and put some movement with it.
05:49Ready?
05:49Deep breath.
05:50It feels like you're hanging out, but you guys are making a film,
05:54and that's an interesting sort of tone to maintain.
05:58Could you talk about that, finding the tone in your way?
06:02Because it shifts to some of the club stuff.
06:05You know, I think there was the scene with Betsy on the bed.
06:08That's sort of funny, because it's just like we've all been there.
06:12But finding those scenes, finding the ways to make those interact.
06:16I think that the way the scenes are, and the characters, it really is like what our life was like,
06:25and how we were like just trying to make a project, and then more of a parody version of that.
06:32Because everyone in the movie plays somewhat a version of themselves,
06:37but it really exaggerated one where you try to find some self-irony in the whole thing.
06:43And the mix is there are some actors, like Jamie, and a couple other people,
06:52but at the same time Jamie is also our friend, and part of the community.
06:59So it's both. Everyone is basically playing some kind of exaggerated,
07:06up-to-up version of themselves, where you look at some quirks about yourself,
07:11and really play off of them.
07:30These photos are really cool.
07:34Yeah, I'm sure there's a story in there, maybe.
07:38Let's talk about you.
07:41Was it interesting seeing the duality that you had to play?
07:43Because that's always a tricky thing, when you're directing,
07:46you're behind something, then you're in front, but you're playing a version of yourself,
07:49that's not you.
07:50It gets to such a mind-f***** place at that point that I didn't even know anymore what I'm doing.
07:58Yeah, she's looking, she's searching for it,
08:00and then there is this punk,
08:02whose vision that she's taking,
08:08that is this torch that guides her way,
08:12but she is very lost.
08:14She's struggling so hard, but she doesn't even know what she's doing.
08:17So I think that's the comedy.
08:20Well, the real me, at the end of the day,
08:23is someone who knows that the script is about her not knowing what she's doing,
08:27so that's the meta part,
08:29and that's how we can get a little philosophical here.
08:32But yeah, I very much relate to characters that are stuck,
08:37that lose the sense of directionality and feel like that's the end,
08:41and that all of a sudden you don't know who you are.
08:44But those are really cool moments where you have to let go of your idealized ego,
08:49and realize maybe there isn't any answer, you know?
08:51Maybe there isn't anything to find out.
08:56That'll startructure to do with the best thought videos
08:58and then you can raise thestep go to God's floor.
09:07Thank you for your family.
09:08Bye-bye.
09:08Bye-bye.
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