00:10One of the things I was wondering was, obviously you didn't know what impact your studios would have when you
00:16started the band, right?
00:17If I knew what impact?
00:18The impact on, the general impact, the wider impact of the studios on, you know, Countless band.
00:24What impact we would have?
00:26Yeah, so what was your reason for actually starting?
00:32Okay, that's pretty good.
00:37Because I was the sort of person who was going to have to have an impact or have a really
00:46horrific life and go bottoms up.
00:49It was going to be my, what do they say, my way or the highway?
00:52Right.
00:53Something like that, something along those lines.
00:56And then, as that idea snowballed, it started to look frighteningly possible.
01:07And finally ended up when I was really, really out of society, like when the whole bunch had me down
01:22and fucking had me punched in the head.
01:25And I was sleeping in the guest bedroom of a mansion replicated of this in Los Angeles and broke, fucking
01:44the heiress.
01:45And I wrote a poem called 10,000 Iggy's.
01:50And I said, okay, you laugh at me now, blah, blah, blah, but what's going to happen?
01:56What's going to happen to you if later there are?
01:58And there were.
02:00Who knew, you know?
02:01But theoretically, I always felt there should have been.
02:06I felt I was right about certain things.
02:11I wasn't out to be successful in the hierarchical sense.
02:19So you, you come from a hierarchical society.
02:23Yeah.
02:24And in fact, people born younger than me in America do too.
02:28And you're taught that there are steps to certain places.
02:33I wasn't taught that.
02:36I was taught just go to the place.
02:40So I went to the place.
02:41And that's why I started to go to the place.
02:44Okay.
02:46What was that?
02:47What was the first record you ever bought?
02:50Why don't you talk a little louder?
02:52What was the first record you ever bought?
02:57It was called Red River Rock by Johnny and the Hurricanes.
03:02I bought it for 99 cents.
03:06Yeah.
03:06A place called Woolworths.
03:09Did you have them here?
03:10You still got them.
03:11I had a feeling.
03:13They're like boots, right?
03:14Yeah.
03:14And they had a record section.
03:17And I had a whole dollar in my hand.
03:20I was 14.
03:22And I'd never had a whole dollar in my hand.
03:25Suddenly one day I had a whole fucking, there it was.
03:28It was green.
03:29It was a dollar.
03:30It was mine.
03:32And I looked and, oh my God.
03:35And it said records 99 cents.
03:39Woo!
03:39And I could buy that record.
03:42All by myself.
03:43I wouldn't have to ask my fucking dad.
03:46And I leafed through the records.
03:48And there was one with this guy.
03:50And he had a, he had a very low, he had one of those hyper masculine brows.
03:58Yeah.
03:58A low brow.
04:00A Roman nose.
04:02Great big overdone blonde quiff.
04:05Lots of grease.
04:06Spangled suit.
04:07And a great big saxophone.
04:10He looks cool.
04:11I want his record.
04:13Right?
04:13That was it.
04:15Right.
04:15Yeah.
04:16And, uh, it was a shitty record.
04:20But it had, uh, it had a little minor hit on it.
04:24It was really terrible.
04:25And they took an old melody called the Red River Valley.
04:30And they called it Red River Rock.
04:32But the sound of the saxophone absolutely constituted a severe violation of the life that I was meant
04:45to lead in the area I came from.
04:48That was, it, it was the same sound, uh, the saxophone that played in the, um, the health education class
04:57syphilis film.
05:00And they, uh, we, I was a senior in high school and they warned us about, uh, what could happen
05:06to young guys
05:07who went and had sex with girls they didn't know.
05:10And they showed these two girls in a convertible sitting up on the back seat.
05:14And I wanted to fuck them, you know.
05:16And I didn't even know how to fuck you.
05:18And I was like, yeah, I want girls like that.
05:20And then they pulled up on a flood-lit street in front of a movie marquee and saxophone music was
05:27playing.
05:28And it sounded like that.
05:30Okay.
05:31That's what I liked about it.
05:32What I didn't like about it was, you know, it was kind of stupid.
05:39I liked that, you know.
05:40I always thought that name was like...
05:41Johnny...
05:42It's funny.
05:44His, uh, his name was Johnny Paris.
05:46Right.
05:47Johnny Paris.
05:48Still a good name.
05:50Yeah.
05:51I, um, one thing I want to ask thing is, uh, I'm a front man as well.
05:56What's the most invasive thing you've had, um, or the most invasive thing you've experienced when you've jumped into the
06:04crowd?
06:07Yeah.
06:08I mean, like...
06:09I feel like I've had chunks of hair from them, you know.
06:17That's a good question, by the way.
06:19It's one that's close to my heart.
06:21Um, there were about three or four times.
06:31One time I was about 24, uh, things weren't going well.
06:41And we played a rough gig for the wrong crowd in Washington, D.C.
06:52It was a tough, thickly, a little thug in the crowd.
07:01And I got too near and he had some peanut butter because someone else had handed me some on a
07:08gig.
07:09And it was televised and he thought it would be a thing.
07:12And, uh, he handed it to me and I ignored him.
07:17And I ignored him.
07:18He wanted, he wanted to batter my face.
07:25And, uh, I didn't like that, especially because I'm the sort that needs other people to batter back for me.
07:35You know, I'm like your definite, uh, more like your Edward G. Robinson type.
07:41You know, like, okay, can we bring in the guys to beat up this asshole for me?
07:45I don't really do that well.
07:47But, but I tried.
07:49That didn't go well.
07:55Probably, the worst besides that is when you go in and some asshole yells a suggestion in your ear.
08:02Like they'll, they'll tell, blaze such and such.
08:06It's like, shut up, just die.
08:09Just fucking die.
08:12That sort of thing.
08:13Yeah, that's a good one.
08:14That's other than that, I don't know.
08:16Mainly, uh, physical crudity and, uh, freshness.
08:23Other than that, nothing.
08:25It's usually all very, uh, instructive.
08:33I saw someone, um, desperately trying to grab the microphone today.
08:37Yeah.
08:37He wouldn't quit.
08:39That was okay.
08:41Yeah.
08:41Um, as long as, as long as it didn't, as long, as long as he could sing the song.
08:47Yeah.
08:48But I, he couldn't sing, he couldn't sing the fucking song.
08:51Even if he could do it badly, that would have been alright.
08:54Mm.
08:54But he was still very persistent in trying to get that microphone.
08:58Yeah.
08:59Who, me?
09:00Well, he wasn't.
09:03That's okay.
09:06I think everyone, I think it's unfortunate that everyone needs a mic now.
09:13Yeah.
09:14If you see what I mean.
09:16Absolutely.
09:16Yeah.
09:18How was it for you tonight?
09:20How was it for you tonight?
09:20Uh, it was good.
09:20It was okay?
09:21Yeah.
09:22Yeah.
09:22The, um, I was, uh, especially enjoying the bass player's moves.
09:31You were expecting one?
09:43Yeah.
09:44I, uh, asked him to, you mean the clobber?
09:47Yeah.
09:47That's my idea.
09:48But the look on his face as well, it really went with it.
09:50Yeah.
09:51The clobber's my idea.
09:53Uh, his old man was a, a Navy, a Navy man.
09:58He lives on a port.
10:00Uh, he lives a Spartan existence.
10:04He has that whole.
10:06Yeah.
10:06Ethic.
10:08So I asked him, why don't you go to a Naval surplus store and buy something that goes with
10:13it.
10:14How long has he been doing that for?
10:16Longer than you've been alive.
10:18Probably.
10:19Long time.
10:21He started in the, uh, eighties for being called the Minute Men.
10:25Oh, yeah.
10:26Yeah.
10:29What about you?
10:30What about me?
10:32Well, what about you?
10:33Where are you?
10:35You like playing music?
10:37Well, I wouldn't be doing it otherwise.
10:39You might, man.
10:41Well, I, I personally wouldn't.
10:43Good.
10:49You ever want to play a gig with us?
10:51What are you talking about?
10:52You know, a proper gig?
10:54A proper gig would be great.
10:55Okay.
10:56Okay.
10:56We'll do it.
10:56That's it.
10:57Alright.
10:58We got it.
10:59Next time we come back, see you in the house.
11:02You look, uh, ready.
11:04I'll do it.
11:06Love you.
11:07May the best.
11:10Yay the best way.
11:13My heart is good.
11:13We're done.
11:13Bye.
11:14Thank you, Mr.
