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Mumbai, Maharahstra: In an exclusive interview with IANS, actress Nimisha Sajayan, director Ambiecka Pandit, and producer Sudip Sharma opened up about their upcoming film Babita Singh Reporting! Nimisha Sajayan and Ambiecka Pandit spoke about the prevalence of patriarchy in today’s society, body-shaming issues, and how feminism is not about hating men. The trio also addressed the common stereotype of linking two people romantically simply because they are seen together, irrespective of their actual relationship. Producer Sudip Sharma spoke about backing such a different and unconventional project, acknowledging the commercial risks involved in supporting a film that challenges conventional storytelling. Nimisha also reflected on her previous film The Great Indian Kitchen, discussing why the woman protagonist was portrayed in a vulnerable and pitiful manner. She explained why she chose to take up Babita Singh Reporting! and spoke about the physical transformation she underwent for the role. The actress also revealed that she burned around 1,200 calories a day as part of her preparation for the film.


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00:00So welcome team Babita Singh boarding, it is an absolute pleasure to have you with us on board at INS.
00:06So firstly congratulations on the trailer, I just watched the trailer while coming to this clip and trust me it
00:14looks very different from the kind of content that we have right now and while it also touch bases a
00:20lot of societal issues which really really need to be voiced.
00:24I really feel it really has a very fine story telling to it, so firstly congratulations on that.
00:33Now like when I talk about societal issues, when we see the trailer, we see that there is this fine
00:41power pack lady who is inspirational in a way,
00:44but yet when she is out of that wordi,
00:50she is back to being a normal woman which we are talking about the patriarchy,
00:55that womanhood which we are talking about is very strong.
00:58She is the one who wants to be the woman who wants to be the skeleton.
01:04I really want to know that firstly was it like a conscious call to make the character like that itself
01:11and if yes or if no why was that?
01:14Yeah, Ameetha has written the script, Ameetha Vyas has written the script and Ameetha's intent was to capture exactly what
01:23you are saying about,
01:23she wanted to write a story about a female cop who is female first and has to play the role
01:29of a mother, a wife before she could play the role of a cop.
01:33And that is the essence of the story that she has to first play the daughter-in-law, first play
01:37the wife,
01:38first play and expect like can she become a mother before she can play the role of a cop even
01:44though she is a cop.
01:44So, her identity is switched in that sense that she, her domestic identity takes precedence over her professional identity
01:51and that was the intent of Ameetha when she wrote this.
01:55Okay, thank you. And to you, I mean I want you to ask that why we, you know when we
02:01have a character
02:01who is a portraying that we may not resonate in real life, right? How difficult or easy is it as
02:09an actor?
02:09And sometimes we come through scripts and some dialogues that we think as a woman, as a girl,
02:15what does she know about me? But it's the need, because the script is demanded.
02:20So, how much of, what is the, what is the, what is the, what is the, what is the, what
02:24is the 19-20s, how do you?
02:26I think there were scenes where I thought that if it happens to be Nimisha, it was one of those
02:30movies.
02:32Seriously?
02:32I think I am that person, you know, if it's not working, it's not working. You can't be disrespectful towards
02:38me, you know,
02:38So, I think that that movie in the start of the movie was the end of the start of the
02:4120-30 minute
02:45So, I think it's the harsh reality that we see in society, that's what it is
02:50And I think that it reflects that harsh reality in the baby movie
02:56I also saw that some people say that you get that respect in the profession
03:03When you get back home, you don't receive the same respect at home
03:08So, I think that we see in society what's happening
03:13It's there in the society and I think that we want to communicate through the film
03:20Through the film
03:21Right, there's a question for you
03:23That you know, when we look at these movies or projects about backing
03:29Because this is not a typical Bollywood or typical problem
03:33That the whole family will see, the family will see
03:36But that's the typical problem
03:39That's the typical Bollywood problem
03:41That's the typical Bollywood problem
03:42That's the same
03:42Which is that movies sellable in the context
03:45They are easily sellable
03:47But when such movies
03:48We have to back into account
03:49What goes in your mind and what makes you come to a decision
03:53Yes, we should definitely be back for projects
03:55Though, because it's commercially risky as well
04:00I mean, as filmmakers, I think it's important to not get bogged down by the idea of commerce
04:06I mean commerce is important
04:08It's an expensive art form
04:12So, but that calculation should be left to the studio
04:17I think that it's not your job
04:19You know, it's not your job to get into that aspect of it
04:22Your interest should really be in telling the story
04:25You know, if it's an interesting story
04:27That to tell it and to tell it well
04:29And in this case, it was also that when the script came to me
04:33It was a very good script
04:35And there were a lot of things that really spoke to me about it
04:40And that's how the sort of the decision was made really
04:43That I would like to champion this script and see it get made
04:48It's rare to come across a really well written script
04:51You know, and when it comes to you
04:53You don't want to let go of that opportunity
04:56And that's when we spoke to Prime
04:59And left the calculations to them
05:01And they calculated and came back and said
05:04You know, it works and let's do it
05:06You know, and it's
05:08And it kind of started from there
05:09So, I think it's important that
05:12As filmmakers you keep that distance from the
05:15From the, you know, be cognizant of it
05:17You know, but keep that distance
05:21And leave that decision with the right people
05:24You know, who in this case is Prime Video
05:27To, you know
05:29I did want to know from actually all three of you
05:32When I saw the trailer or when I read this episode
05:35So, there are a lot of things that you have at home
05:38That you have at home
05:42Even though you are in such an important position
05:44And you are actually going there and you know
05:48You know, you have all the things that you have at home
05:51But when you are at home
05:52So, there are some snipe remarks that they pass very casually
05:56It's not that they mean harm to you
05:59But it's casual as a context of that
06:01That it doesn't happen
06:02Be it your appearance, be it your whatsoever
06:07And you want to know that in real life
06:10Have you personally encountered such people
06:13And if yes, how was your take on it?
06:15How do you deal?
06:19I have come across people
06:21People who comment on your looks
06:22Everything or the things that you do
06:24But I think I am more of that person
06:26Like it doesn't matter, you know
06:27It doesn't affect me
06:28I
06:29That's what I am saying
06:30When I was shooting for baby
06:32There was a point where I thought
06:34I could react
06:35But at the same time, I also realised
06:37That there are a lot of women who don't do it
06:41They don't come from that space
06:44Where they can react
06:47They don't have that privilege
06:49You know
06:49To do
06:50But I think
06:51With the baby
06:54You see her go through this transformation
06:56You know
06:56Like the baby
06:58There is a point where she is listening
07:00And she is adjusting to people and their wants
07:03But there is a point when she realises it
07:05And she breaks through
07:06And when she comes out of the shell
07:07I think it is a game changer
07:09There is a shift that you see in baby
07:11The way she approaches a certain situation
07:13Or she starts dealing with people
07:15You know
07:15It changes and I think
07:16For every person it is there
07:18You know
07:18You take it
07:19I mean the point is
07:20Disrespect
07:21Whatever you do
07:22But after a point
07:24You start reacting
07:26And I think that is what baby is also
07:28And I think it is same with everyone
07:30You know
07:30For me also as a person
07:32Sometimes
07:32You go through some situation
07:34You face something
07:35And all of a sudden
07:36Your perspective changes
07:37You know
07:37The way you start looking things around you
07:39It changes
07:40It shifts
07:40And you start seeing things differently
07:42You know
07:43So I think it is the situations
07:44And the things that you deal with in your life
07:46That makes you a different person
07:48You know
07:48After a point
07:48Right
07:49You know
07:50We have said that in today's era
07:52We have said that there is women empowerment
07:55Women are being very strong and very vocal about it
07:58But
07:59But
07:59Not only
08:00Not only
08:00Patriarchy is so deeply ingrained in society
08:02It becomes a lot more difficult
08:04Like
08:05I think
08:06In metropolitan cities
08:07Women still have a stronger voice
08:09Than
08:11Women
08:12Who are still not
08:14Who are still in the undeveloped areas
08:16So
08:17I just want to know that
08:18Do you personally believe that
08:22That
08:22That
08:22That patriarchal system
08:23That
08:24That
08:24That
08:24That
08:25That
08:25That
08:26That
08:28That
08:29Are we really as women
08:30Are we really making that mark in today's world
08:35I think it is changing
08:36Patriarchy is very closely connected to
08:38The
08:39To financial independence
08:40And
08:42Once women start earning
08:43And are contributing to capitalistic society
08:46It is impossible to ignore them
08:47So
08:48Which is also why we see the urban and the rural divide
08:50Right
08:50Where you see women being financially independent
08:52They have more of a voice
08:54Where they don't have that financial independence
08:56You
08:56They are still victims to patriarchy
08:59So
08:59It is definitely changing
09:00Because the system as a whole is changing
09:02But
09:02I think the bigger thing
09:03And
09:03That
09:04That
09:04That should change is that
09:05If
09:05If men from
09:06We
09:07We could have men understand this experience
09:09If you know there could be
09:10There could be commonality between
09:13Genders
09:13That
09:14We could empathize with each other as human beings
09:16That
09:17Change
09:18Is also happening
09:19But slower
09:20Than one would hope
09:21But
09:21I am surrounded by men who get that
09:24Who
09:24Who understand the experience
09:26Because today I earn and they have to listen to me
09:28But they listen to me
09:29And they respect me
09:30Because
09:30They just
09:31They want to understand my experience
09:33And they can empathize with that
09:37Yeah, I mean
09:38If you could also
09:41As Ambika said that
09:42I think it starts from
09:44When men
09:45They start understanding what we are also going through
09:47You know
09:47It is a collective effort
09:49It is not like
09:51You are vocal
09:52I think
09:53I think
09:53It is like
09:54It is like
09:54It is a support
09:56Why are you pointing at me?
09:58No, no
09:59What I am saying is that
09:59For example
10:00In this project
10:02Like just imagine
10:02Ambika directing it
10:04Amita
10:05She is a writer
10:05It is a woman centric film
10:07And a producer like
10:07Sudivda and Saurabh
10:09They are producing it
10:09That itself is a statement
10:11You know
10:11That means
10:12We need more
10:14Men like them
10:15You know
10:15That is what I would say
10:16Right
10:17Right
10:17It is a collective thing
10:19Absolutely
10:20When he saw that
10:23In this show
10:24When your husband plays
10:25His character
10:26As far as we have understood
10:29It is very
10:30Like
10:31Continuing to say
10:32Last question
10:33Is that
10:33He is connected in the patriarchal system
10:36So it is not that
10:37He does not love his wife
10:38But still
10:38He is just
10:39That is a mindset
10:40Because we are conditioned
10:41To think in a certain way
10:43I mean
10:43Even though the wife
10:44Is an ASI
10:44But she is a girl
10:45She is a girl
10:46She is a girl
10:48So
10:49In today's world
10:50We often say
10:51That no
10:52Being single
10:53I don't need a man
10:54I don't need any support
10:55Man in any relationship
10:57Father
10:59Husband
10:59Partner
11:00What so
11:01Do you really feel
11:02That
11:03In today's world
11:04A woman can actually
11:05Stay
11:06On her own
11:07Without any
11:08Man
11:09Any male support
11:10At the back end of it
11:11Because
11:12Society managers
11:13Who get there
11:13If she is a widow
11:14If she is unmarried
11:15That stigma
11:17Is very prevalent here
11:20I mean
11:20If you are asking my personal views
11:22Yes she can
11:23Absolutely she can
11:24Yeah that's all
11:25I want to tell you personally
11:26Yeah
11:27Absolutely she can
11:28I am not sure
11:29That's the healthiest approach
11:30Because I don't think
11:30That the solution
11:32To patriarchy
11:33Is for women
11:34To isolate men
11:35And to say
11:36That you know
11:36We don't need men at all
11:37I mean the idea
11:38Is to equalise
11:40Both genders
11:41And to be able to live
11:42As human beings
11:42And to have parity
11:43In sharing the planet
11:44So I
11:45I
11:46I'm not really
11:47I'm not a propagator
11:48Of saying that
11:48One doesn't need a man
11:50And our man has become redundant
11:51But
11:52I hope not
11:53Yeah
11:54We haven't
11:55The most definitely haven't
11:56But
11:58Yeah she can
11:59It's also
12:00It's a question of agency
12:02Like if you
12:02You should
12:03It should be your decision
12:05Whether you want to
12:06Stay with a man
12:07Or you don't want to
12:08Stay with a man
12:08And that depends on
12:10Each one's personal conditions
12:11I think what's interesting
12:12About Sharad's character
12:13Sharad's husband
12:16Is
12:17The fact that
12:18He thinks
12:19Which is true
12:20For
12:20For many men
12:21And because
12:22It's
12:23It's so generational
12:24Generational
12:25This thing that has been
12:26Ingrained in you
12:27He thinks
12:28He's being supportive
12:29He thinks
12:30He's being a good husband
12:31He's being the provider
12:33He's
12:33You know
12:34He's
12:36There is a blind side to him
12:38Which he doesn't get
12:39He's benign
12:40He can't see it
12:41Yeah
12:41So he's
12:42He's thinking that
12:43If he's being
12:44He's caring
12:45He's providing for her
12:48He's
12:48He's being a champion
12:49He's being a feminist
12:50He's being a good husband
12:51He's being a good husband
12:52He's being a good husband
12:53It's so deeply ingrained
12:54That when he comes
12:54When he talks about
12:55The food she's made
12:56When he talks about
12:57How she looks
12:57When he has to reinforce
12:59That how she should behave
13:00In her Sasura
13:01It doesn't even occur to him
13:03That he's being condescending
13:05Or he's hurting her feelings
13:06And
13:07It's not only for Sharad
13:08It's so ingrained in baby as well
13:10That she
13:11That women themselves
13:12Have ingrained that
13:13Right
13:13They behave a certain way
13:14Her demeanor changes
13:15She feels a lot more free
13:16When she's in Bhopal
13:17Where she stays with her husband
13:18And works
13:18Than when she feels in her Sasura
13:20You see the way she eats in her Sasura
13:22Her body language has climbed up
13:23She's internalized that
13:25That I'm not welcome
13:26I can't take up space here
13:27I have to be a certain way
13:28To keep them happy
13:30Right
13:31So
13:31Yeah
13:32It's
13:33That is exactly what
13:34Babita Singh wants to show
13:36That
13:36None of these people are monstrous
13:38None of these people are coming from a bad place
13:41But we are challenging that system
13:42Because humans make that system
13:44That's correct
13:45We would like to add your version on the system
13:48Version on what?
13:50On the same question
13:51I mean
13:51What was the question?
13:52I'm sorry
13:54What was it?
13:55We were talking about Sharad
13:56We were talking about Sharad
13:57We were talking about Sharad
14:15If you are independent
14:17If you are strong
14:18Independent
14:18If you are earning
14:19I think yes
14:19If
14:21But I think
14:22It's a collective thing
14:23You cannot always say that
14:25As a woman
14:26I will do everything alone
14:27No, it's a collective thing
14:28And I think
14:29I might also
14:30For me
14:31I might need a partner
14:33Who is also supportive
14:34Who is also very understanding
14:35You know
14:35For example
14:36Sharad
14:37For Sharad
14:38It's more like
14:38He is providing
14:39He is taking care of everything
14:40And he just feels like
14:41He is a good husband
14:42But he is not
14:42You know
14:44So I think
14:45If I will get a partner
14:46Who is very much understanding
14:48Who is ready to understand
14:49What I am going through
14:50What my needs are
14:51And everything
14:51And who believes in equality
14:54I think it's okay
14:55To have men around you
14:56You know
14:56This question
14:57Why
14:58This question actually
14:59Stends from
14:59When we see
15:01A lot of feminists
15:03Or a lot of girls
15:04For that matter
15:04Especially of this generation
15:06When they talk about
15:07Having a male partner
15:09Male presence in their life
15:11In any form
15:12What happens
15:12On social media
15:13A lot of comments
15:14Are about
15:15Men hating
15:17No, no, no
15:17What is feminism?
15:18Feminism is basically
15:19Equality
15:20So I think
15:21If someone agrees
15:23So I don't have a problem
15:25So I don't think
15:27Feminism means
15:28Like
15:29Hating
15:29Men
15:32It's about equality
15:33If you can do it
15:34If you can do it
15:34I can do it
15:35If you get the opportunity
15:37Then I get the same opportunity
15:39That's it
15:39It's very simple
15:41You know
15:42When we see
15:43Varun's character
16:14In the movie
16:14In the movie
16:14In the movie
16:43Probably
16:44From childhood
16:45From childhood
16:45Onwards
16:46That it is
16:47Not right
16:49For a boy
16:51Or a man
16:52To be crying
16:53And that kind of
16:54You know
16:55It takes
16:57The kind of
16:57Years of conditioning
16:58That it puts on you
16:59Is very difficult
17:01To break through
17:02And
17:03Crying is what?
17:04Crying is a
17:05Form of
17:06Saying
17:06I am not right
17:07Right?
17:08And
17:09With that
17:10You are hoping
17:10For someone to come up to you
17:12And ask you
17:13And for you to open up
17:14When you stop doing that
17:16When you stop
17:16Expressing yourself
17:18Is
17:19Is going to have
17:20Some sort of
17:21Some sort of an effect
17:22On you
17:23Men find it difficult
17:24To
17:25To
17:25You know
17:26Even
17:27Among friends
17:28And you know
17:29Women friendships
17:30Are very different
17:31And I am
17:31Of course
17:32I am generalizing
17:33But
17:36Men friendships
17:37Generally tend to be different
17:38You know
17:39You talk about
17:41Whole lot of things
17:41You talk about
17:42What's happening in the country
17:43You know
17:44You talk about your work
17:45You talk about
17:46All sorts of things
17:47You know
17:48But you don't talk about
17:49How you are feeling
17:50Because somehow
17:50That's just considered
17:53To be something
17:53That you are supposed
17:54To deal with
17:55On your own
17:56Yeah
17:56You know
17:57And it is difficult
17:59To break through
17:59And Bansi's character
18:01Kind of
18:01Is
18:03Symptomatic of that
18:04You know
18:04Of somebody
18:05Who is
18:07Feeling lonely
18:08Feeling like
18:09He really needs
18:10To open up
18:11To be able to speak
18:12To someone
18:14Babita is
18:15That one friend
18:16Who he thinks
18:17He can open up to
18:19But
18:20For some unfortunate
18:22Circumstances
18:22They are not able
18:23To meet
18:23And all that
18:25Sort of transpires
18:26What transpires
18:27In the film
18:28Kind of stems
18:28From there
18:29Which is the guilt
18:30That then she carries
18:33In the film
18:34So yeah
18:34It is
18:34You are right
18:35It is difficult
18:36For most men
18:38I would say
18:38It is changing
18:40Therapists are helping
18:41But
18:42But it is
18:43It is difficult
18:44Right
18:45You know
18:45In this movie
18:46I mean
18:48Two characters
18:49Varunka
18:50And Nimusha
18:51They are very
18:52Very good friends
18:53Meet after a long time
18:54They meet after a long time
18:56They meet after a very long time
18:58But there is no
18:59There is no domains associated
19:00Which is very complicated
19:01But
19:02Today
19:02We say
19:04If we see
19:05Just two friends
19:07Of two opposite genders
19:08First
19:09Thought is
19:10Two business partners
19:12Successful
19:13Business partners
19:13This is
19:14That
19:14There is a lot of
19:15People
19:15You know
19:18Hand in glove
19:19How are they doing
19:20This concept
19:21Or this thought
19:22What will you guys have to do
19:25I don't think so
19:26I have never thought
19:28I have never
19:29I have never had that thought
19:30You know
19:30Many people do that
19:31I mean
19:32We are
19:33In a minority
19:35But
19:35Majority
19:36Even in
19:37In Mumbai
19:38Rally
19:39You are right
19:40It happens
19:41And even with
19:42Bansi and Babita
19:43Yeah
19:44With Bansi and Babita
19:45There were a lot of people
19:46Who asked us
19:47That oh
19:47Is there an angle
19:49Is there something more
19:50To this
19:51Because it has become
19:52That gaze has become
19:53So prevalent in society
19:55And that is another
19:56Product of patriarchy
19:57Right
19:57You view it as a function
19:59That the only
19:59The only time
20:01A man and a woman
20:01Will have that degree of closeness
20:03Is if they are an institution
20:04Of marriage
20:04If there is that kind of a relationship
20:06Between them
20:07But
20:09It is obviously not required
20:11They are both human beings
20:12At the end of the day
20:12And
20:13Regardless of their gender
20:14A human being
20:16Can
20:16Has emotions
20:17Will need support
20:18And wherever you get that from
20:19And if you remove
20:20I mean Babita and Bansi are friends
20:22But if you remove that equation
20:24You say
20:24Bansi has a mother
20:25Bansi has a sister
20:26Bansi has a daughter
20:27Bansi has a wife
20:28So
20:29Sometimes you need a female presence
20:31In your life
20:31And it could be in any capacity
20:33Whether it is a platonic friend
20:34Whether it is a familial relationship
20:37So I think
20:38What a female presence
20:40Is bringing
20:40For a man
20:41Is a form of emotional support
20:43A sort of a nurturing
20:44Caring vibe
20:45And
20:46It is sad
20:47That we
20:47Kind of typecast that
20:49When you step out of
20:50The familial relationship
20:51A man and woman's relationship
20:52Is typecast in a certain way
20:54But it is not essential at all
20:56They are relating as women beings
20:57I think
20:57It comes from
20:59The fear of patriarchy
21:01That
21:01Because it really
21:03Endangers patriarchy
21:04The idea of patriarchy
21:05Men and women
21:06Becoming friends
21:07Because
21:07That is what
21:08Really sensitizes
21:11A man
21:13To
21:14To understand
21:15A woman
21:16And
21:17To
21:17To understand
21:19His own patriarchy
21:20It is only when
21:21Because
21:22Your immediate response
21:24As
21:24As a partner
21:26Or as a father
21:27Or as a son
21:28You go back
21:29To your
21:29To the instincts
21:30That you have been taught
21:32It is only in
21:33It is only in the safe space
21:35Of a friendship
21:36Where a female friend
21:37Can correct you
21:38And say
21:38You know what
21:39You just spoke some bullshit
21:40And that is not how
21:41It is supposed to be
21:42And that is when
21:43You are
21:44Okay to
21:45To admit that
21:47And okay to say
21:48Oh yeah
21:48Okay
21:50I screwed up over there
21:51And maybe
21:52Make that correction
21:53In your own personality
21:55You know
21:55I mean
21:56So it
21:57Because it
21:57Endangers
21:58Patriarchy
22:00That
22:00You know
22:01The response
22:02Is to then
22:03You fall back on
22:04These
22:04On the gossip
22:05And the rumours
22:06And to say
22:36You are
22:36Absolutely
22:36Yeah
22:36That is the easiest way
22:36Yeah
22:36Yeah
22:36Yeah
22:36Yeah
22:36What's something you
22:37Is the truth
22:38The truth
22:38Do you really feel that
22:41The truth
22:42is the truth
22:43Does it
22:43And also
22:44Why did you choose
22:45Why did you consciously choose such projects that
22:48Is it like you really want to
22:50What do you mean by
22:51Bitchari
22:51I mean
22:53Bitchari
22:54Pra현
22:54What is the truth
22:55Which is in the kitchen
22:57Do you think people work more in society than today's society?
23:01I think that today's society is not like that. I think women are independent and strong
23:06so that they are taking care of themselves. So, I think after the release of Great Indian Kitchen,
23:12I got many messages from men saying that, listen, now we are going to go to the house
23:18because after the film, you know, I am showing that shift. So, it's not about
23:22Bichari and it was more about the way men treats women, you know. I mean, it was in that movie,
23:28we have shown that. I mean, how you take things for granted.
23:33How you take things for granted, you know, and I think
23:36maybe in the baby, we want to communicate that through the film.
23:40Also, when you saw the Niri make-off for the Great Indian Kitchen with Miss
23:43Oh, I have not. No, no, no, no, I didn't get the chance to see it.
23:47The question stands on if I don't know.
23:49Yeah. So, okay, I mean, also I got to know that you have, you went under a lot of transformation
23:53for this particular character. Yes. I gained like almost 14 kgs for the character.
23:5814? Yeah, I was 58 when I got selected. Then we started working on the weight gain journey. So,
24:05we had this set of professionals, Dr. Siddhan, Karan and Chef Saif Dada. So, first it started
24:11with 1,200 calories and it went up to like 8,000 calories, you know. So, you had a ball
24:17of time.
24:17No, it was a nightmare. No, no, it was an absolute nightmare for me.
24:218,000 calories is like a lot of food, you know, I was like literally stuffing food,
24:25but I enjoyed the process, you know, because it got me more closer to the character baby. So,
24:30I had fun. How did you lose all of that? Again,
24:32work out back to 1,200 calories a day. So, yeah.
24:37Right, right. I think and one final question, what is the fun message that you would want audiences take away
24:42from?
24:46I hope that they can have more empathy for the female experience or for people in general who tend to
24:52make themselves small and don't take up space and who put others first. So, like you said, right,
24:58that when you, when you, the reason this happens is because we are oblivious to other people's
25:02experiences like Sudeep was mentioning that he, men behave a certain way because they don't,
25:07they've not had that avenue to open up and cry. Women behave a certain way because they don't
25:11know any better. I think that the whole point of any, of cinema in general is that you widen
25:18people's horizons, you can have greater experiences and from Rabita Singh, we hope the same thing
25:22that they can understand and empathise with what women go through.
25:28I, I just feel like after watching the film, if they sit and reflect on the decisions that they
25:33have made or the way they have behaved, I think if you reflect on that, if you think about it,
25:38then maybe that will help you bring a change in your life. Like you will start to see things
25:42differently around you. So, I think that will be the impact.
25:46Yeah, I would, I would say the same thing empathy and although the, you know, the, the protagonist
25:54is a, is a female, I think men would really enjoy watch, watching the film because there is a,
26:01there's a sort of reflection of, of all of us in it, in, in, in, in the various characters
26:10of the film. And I think that, that I particularly found that very, very interesting to explore as a,
26:18you know, first when I read the script and then when I saw the film that Rabita made,
26:22I really enjoyed that, that, you know, reflection of yourself in some of the male characters.
26:28Okay, I think that's about it. Thank you.
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