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00:13Vice President Duterte
00:30Tumayo si Atty. Amanda Virgil Ligutan ng prosekusyon para basahin ang kanyang counter-manifestasyon.
00:37Tug na iyan sa naging manifestation ng depensa noong August 12 ukol sa Facebook post ni Ligutan na tila itinatama
00:45ang isa sa mga sinabi ng depensa.
00:48Iginiit ni Ligutan na hindi siya namemersonal sa kanyang post at wala raw siyang nilabag.
00:54The post is not about you. It's not personal. It is about the law that we all adhere to.
01:04Correcting a mistake is never wrong. Doing it while a hearing is ongoing online does not make it not right.
01:15But what did I violate? I did not discuss the merits of the case. I did not discuss the strength
01:25or the weakness of the oral arguments.
01:28Matapos ito, binasa ni Senate Presiding Officer Cheese Espadero ang court ruling kognay sa subjudice rule.
01:36Una niyang pinaalalahanan ang mga kapwa niya Senator Judge kognay sa pagiging impartial o walang kinikiningan.
01:43The inquiry must remain relevant, material, fair, and directed toward clarification of truth.
01:49It must not devolve into a speech, harassment, partisan advocacy, or an announcement of a conclusion already reached.
01:59The line is clear. Senator Judges may test the evidence here under oath and on the record, exercising the cold
02:07neutrality of an impartial judge.
02:09Kung sakali raw makita na hindi akma ang kilos o salita ng isang Senator Judge, maaari itong idulog sa Senate
02:17Committee on Ethics.
02:19Sunod namang pinaalalahanan ang mga miyembro ng prosekusyon at tipensa.
02:23Gayun din ang respondent na si Vice President Sara Duterte.
02:27All persons covered by Rule 18 to refrain from making, sharing, endorsing, or otherwise amplifying any public statement concerning the
02:33merits of the pending trial.
02:35Counsel for both parties are further directed to observe the applicable provisions of CIPRA.
02:40Iniisa-isa rin ni Escudero ang mga parusa rito na susundin ng two-strike rule.
02:46Sa unang paglabag, may pit na pagsaway sa harap ng korte.
02:50Sa pangalawa at mga susunod naman na paglabag, papatawa na ng hanggang 30,000 pisong multa ang mga lalabag.
02:58Maaari rin daw umabot sa puntong pagbawalan siyang magtanong sa testigo.
03:03Clearly, up to today, the spokesperson of both parties are still part of the council for the parties, some with
03:13more violations than others.
03:16So, without enumerating the councils where this rule applies, I think you know who you are given the entries of
03:23appearance you've already made.
03:24At kung isang abogado naman ang lumabag nito.
03:27The certified incident record will be transmitted and formal referral will be made to the Office of the Bar Confident,
03:36the Integrated Bar of the Philippines and or the Supreme Court,
03:39for possible disciplinary sanction regarding the person's license to practice.
03:44Lilinaw rin ni Escudero na palalagpasin na ang mga nakaraang paglabag.
03:49The court shall extend grace, exercise liberality, and wipe the slate clean.
03:54Tabula rasa, so to speak.
03:56From this point forward, however, Rule 18 shall be strictly enforced and be given full force in effect.
04:02Pagkatapos ito, muling sumalan sa witness stand si OVP Assistant Chief of Staff,
04:08Asek Lemuel Ortonio, para sa cross-examination ng depensa.
04:12Una nilang sinilip ang hindi pag-sumite ng physical and financial plan kasabay ng request ng OVP na confidential funds.
04:21Your request for additional budget was actually approved by the Office of the President.
04:27That's correct, ma'am.
04:28And in the process of approving your request for additional budget,
04:35no issue whatsoever was raised by either the DBM or the Office of the President regarding the documents that you
04:45submitted.
04:45We did not receive any comment regarding the submissions that we've made.
04:51Na silip din ang paggamit sa confidential fund na nakasal sa physical and financial plan.
04:57The confidential funds were not used to fund the good governance program in itself, but the implementation thereof.
05:07Yes, that's correct, ma'am.
05:10The confidential funds for the year 2023 were not used to fund the socio-economic program in itself, but the
05:18safe implementation thereof.
05:23Pero pinalagan ito ng prosekusyon na tinawag si Ortonio na incompetent na tumistigo kung saan naggastos o napunta ang confidential
05:32funds.
05:32He himself explained that he had no participation whatsoever in the disbursement of said confidential funds.
05:40So this witness, Your Honor, by his own admission, is incompetent to testify where the confidential funds were spent.
05:48Muling nilinaw kung alam ba ni Ortonio kung saan ginastos ang mga pondo.
05:52Base sa testimony mo, Gina Ortonio, wala kang alam sa paggastos, pag-liquidate, pag-disburse ng confidential funds.
06:00Tama?
06:00Yes, that's correct, Your Honor.
06:03Sabi ni Gina Acosta, wala rin siyang alam.
06:06Based on what I have read in...
06:08Na testimony niya?
06:09Yes, sir.
06:10Base sa pagkakaalam mo, alam ba ng Vice President kung paano ito ginastos?
06:18The way I understand it, sir, as the head of agency, I would understand that she knows the implementations.
06:27Yes, so si Cornelachica alam din syempre.
06:30Yes, sir, as the security officer.
06:33Inusisa naman ni Senator Judge Rafi Tulfo kung bakit hindi tinanong ni Ortonio kung anong klaseng gamotang binili gamit ang
06:42confidential funds ng OVP.
06:43Did you ask kung anong medisina binili ng... para saan medisina bibili ng informant, ang pera?
06:49When the time na nag-consult po ako with a security officer, sir, I did not ask anymore on the
06:56specifics.
06:57You are a very highly educated person from prestigious schools. Come on, it doesn't make sense. It defies logic. Tatanoy
07:04mo dapat.
07:05At the time po, sir, when I consulted with a security officer, sir, I was not able to ask anymore.
07:13Why not? It's part of your job. In fact, pumirma ka eh. Doon sa pag-reply mo sa EOM.
07:21I asked, sir, for your process.
07:22So, pumirma ka na nakapikit? Yes, sir.
07:25No, sir, hindi naman po na nakapikit, sir, because nagtanong naman po ako sa security officer namin, sir, on how
07:34it was released or implemented on the ground.
07:38I could have asked La Chica and said, La Chica, bakit tin tayo pumunta sa DOH, maghingi tayo ng gawit
07:43para makalibre, makatipid tayo sa confidential funds?
07:45That I cannot answer, sir.
07:46Sa pag-interject ni Sen. Judge Kiko Pangilinan, kinwestiyon niya kung bakit gamot ang binili bilang reward sa mga informant.
07:55Mahirap paniwalaan na kayo ay gumastos ng 122 milyon para sa gamot na reward dahil nag-surveillance yung mga informant
08:05at nabigyan ng reward at hiningi nila gamot at hindi ninyo binigyan ng gamot, binigyan ninyo ng pera para sila
08:13nang bibili ng gamot.
08:14May napansin naman si Sen. Judge Panfilo Lacson sa Physical and Financial Plan ng OVP Confidential Fund noong 2022 at
08:232023 na nagkakahalaga ng 500 milyon pesos.
08:28Anya, tila iisa at copy-paste lang ang nakasulat na physical target.
08:34Percentage of activities implemented without untoward security-related incidents.
08:47Paulit-ulit po ito. Ano pong analysis nyo dyan?
08:51These are the activities that will be done, sir.
08:53I know. Hindi ba ito isulto sa common sense?
08:57Hindi man lang nyo binago ng konti.
08:59O ako na mag-describe.
09:00I think it's stupid.
09:04Sana man lang, binago-bago niya ng konti.
09:06Sinilip din ang mga dipangkaraniwang pangalan sa acknowledgement receipt na pinirmahan ng mga informant.
09:14Minsan ang natanong ng ilang Sen. Judges, baka alias ang mga ito.
09:20Ang alias po, anong kahalagahan?
09:23I'm not sure of the circumstances surrounding their use of alias.
09:27Under the anti-alias law, sir, inaalaw naman po yung paggamit ng alias, provided kailangan po nakabanggit din, nakadisclose kung
09:37ano yung real name.
09:38That should be a non-issue because even them, they never claimed that in any of their PDs before this
09:42Honorable Court.
09:43Kailangan nyo po ba kung sino yung si Marcial Bonifacio?
09:47To be counted, Your Honor.
09:49I'm not.
09:50Sino po?
09:52Si Binigno Aquino Jr.
09:56Si Ninoy.
09:57Siya mismo may alias.
09:59Dahil nabanggit si Ninoy, nag-react si Sen. Judge Bam Aquino, pamangkin ng pinaslang na dating senador.
10:07Tama po, si Ninoy Aquino po ang kanyang alias ay Marcial Bonifacio para makauwi po siya sa Pilipinas kung nasa
10:14Boston siya.
10:15Pero wala naman po siyang confidential fans.
10:18Bago magtapos ang cross-examination, hiniling naman ni Sen. Judge Migs Zabiri na hingin sa COA ang status ng kanilang
10:26findings sa confidential fans.
10:28Can this court make representation with the COA, if possible, during the duration of this trial, so that we may
10:36be guided as judges?
10:38Can they make their findings already with finality?
10:41The Commission on Audit is an independent constitutional commission and I doubt if we would be well within our rights
10:51to compel them, similar to a mandamus, to act one way or the other.
10:58Sa cross-examination naman ang abogado ng BICE, ipinunto ni Ortonio na hindi pa naman daw pinal ang Notice of
11:04Disallowance ng COA sa OVP at pwede pa itong i-appela.
11:09Hindi rin daw umano ginamit ang confidential fans sa mga regular na programa ng OVP.
11:15Ako, si Ian Cruz, ang inyong saksi.
11:19Maging si Vice President Sara Duterte, pinalalahana ni Impeachment Court Presiding Officer Sen. Cheese Escudero tungkol sa subjudice a room.
11:28Bago po ilabas ni Escudero ang huli, naglabas ang Vice Presidente ng pahayag na pumupo na sa ilang katagang ginamit
11:35sa paglilipis.
11:36Narito ang aking report.
11:42Papasimula pa lang sa Impeachment Court Presiding Officer Sen. Cheese Escudero sa pagbabasa ng ruling kaugnay sa subjudice a room
11:49sa impeachment trial,
11:50nang ipost sa Facebook page ng Office of the Vice President ang pahayag ni Vice President Sara Duterte kaugnay sa
11:56ilang katagang binitawan sa paglilipis.
11:59Ayon sa pangalawang Pangulo, wala ni katiting na ebidensya ang mga impeachment complaint at hindi dapat sa paglilipis naghahanap ng
12:08ebidensya ang prosepusyon.
12:09Hindi na daw kailangan ng theatrics o pagdadrama para sa isang malakas na kaso.
12:15Pino na rin niya ang pagbansag na stupid sa isang testigo at pagtawag sa Vice Presidente na mastermind ng scam
12:22at brat.
12:23Ang pahayag na yan ipinunto ni Lead Prosecutor Jervil Luizro bago matapos ang pagdinig kanina.
12:28Ayon kay Escudero, dahil inilabas ng pahayag noong babasahin pa lang ang ruling, hindi pa ito sakot ng pagbabawal.
12:35Pero dapat anya ipaalala ng depensa sa kanilang kliyente na posibleng may isagawang mahakbang kung lalabag siya sa subjudice a
12:42room sa hinaharap.
12:43Because henceforth, again, given the prospectivity of the ruling, the necessary actions will be taken against her not only by
12:53the court,
12:54but also given that she's a lawyer via what the presiding officer earlier mentioned in relation to CIPRA and in
13:02relation to the office of the bar company.
13:05Kindly inform her on Attorney Sheila.
13:07We take note of that reminder, you are.
13:08We'll have to discuss the matter, of course, with our client, the Vice President, kasi nga very clear naman yung
13:17naging ruling ng ating presiding officer.
13:20Sa pananaw ni UP College of Law, Associate Dean Professor Paulo Tamase,
13:24ipinakikita ng ruling na seryoso ang impeachment court na ibalik ang kaiusan, impartiality, at decorum sa proseso.
13:31The way that I think about itong issues with the Vice President making these statements,
13:36or actually many of the cast of characters in impeachment making public statements is,
13:41kaya mo ba ikahon yung dagat, minsan yung feeling niya,
13:45na given the very political character of the case,
13:48posible ba talaga na patigilin sa pananalita yung mga politiko na involved,
13:53whether as witnesses or the respondent herself.
13:56But in any case, I think yung objective ni Sen. Presiding Officer Escudero
14:02is to restore some order and civility doon sa proseso,
14:06to ensure na yung ebidensya yung mananaig,
14:09and na hindi yung parties ay naghahanap ng kakampe basically outside.
14:13Very important to note na yung ruling niya,
14:15ang cover dito, hindi lang the prosecutors, hindi lang the defense counsel,
14:20pati respondent and the senator judges.
14:22Alam natin na seryoso siya kasi nagsimula siya sa senator judges.
14:26Yung pag-request niya na parang iwasan yung unparliamentary remarks ng mga senador,
14:32yung lawyers both for the defense and the prosecution,
14:35pinalalahanan sila today.
14:38And I think threatening language, kasi nagsasight na ng ethical rules,
14:42and yun yung pinakatakot lahat ng mga abogado pag na-investigate ka for ethics.
14:47Mayroong paalala na may malinaw na rule sa Senate impeachment rules,
14:52laban sa pagsasalita on the merits.
14:55Pero napansin din ni Tamase na tila may mga bahagi pa rin ng pagtatanong
14:59na naging political statement.
15:01Pasaring sa testigo, o di kaya ay lumilihis sa mas importanteng punto.
15:05So hindi natin alam kung hindi lang ba nakinig yung mga other senators
15:09during the reading of Senator Escudero's order,
15:13or if mayroon talagang pushback against them.
15:16In the meantime, I think we'll find out in the next few days kung tatalima talaga sila.
15:20Ang presekusyon na depensa,
15:22nire-respeto ang utos ng impeachment court.
15:25It's a fair ruling with the court.
15:28We always appeal to whatever the court naman rules.
15:31Coverage is a rule, so yun lang pa rin mag-informate.
15:36You inform him of course.
15:38Well, but the government will inform.
15:40Somehow it will have an effect, but we will do the necessary innovations
15:44kasi hindi-hindi kami papayag na hindi maabot
15:48ng bawat Maria at Juan de la Cruz
15:51ang impormasyon.
15:53Naungkat ang problema sa basura sa pagbinigilang kamara
15:56sa panukalang mahigit 28 bilyong pisong fondo ng DNR
16:00para sa 2027.
16:02Isa po sa mga dinalakay ay kung naipatutupad ba
16:05ng tama ang Ecological Solid Waste Management Act.
16:08Saksi, si Marie Zumali.
16:13Sa sunod-sunod na pananalasa ng habagat kamakailan,
16:17huling lumutang ang malaki nating problema sa basura.
16:20Kaya isa ito sa inusisa na ilang mababatas
16:23sa pagdinig sa hinihinging 28 billion peso budget
16:26ng Department of Environment and Natural Resources
16:28para sa taong 2027.
16:30Anong nila bakit tila di naipatutupad
16:32ang Ecological Solid Waste Management Act
16:34kahit may National Solid Waste Management Commission
16:37at Local Solid Waste Management Plan.
16:40What are your concrete plans to solve this garbage crisis
16:44which floods our nation every time a typhoon hits our country?
16:52Isa sa mga bagay na kailangan natin talagang iporsige
16:57ay yung enforcement po natin, ordinances that would ban single-use plastics.
17:04Nasa batas nga pero hindi naman nakakasunod
17:07ang lahat ng barangay sa pagkakaroon ng Material Recovery Facility
17:10kung saan dapat naiipon ang mga basura
17:13ang di naman nabubulok.
17:14Dapat bago pa umabot dyan,
17:16ay napaghihiwalay na ang mga basura.
17:19Basta sa Republic Act No. 9152
17:21o National Environmental Awareness and Education Act,
17:24itinataguyod ang pagpapalaganap ng kaalaman at kamalayan
17:27sa pangalaga ng kapaligiran.
17:29Layo na itong isama sa edukasyon at mga programa ng pamahalaan
17:33ang tamang pagdatapo ng basura.
17:35May 92% naman ang komplaya sa Solid Waste Management
17:38pero bakit tuloy pa rin ang pagbaha?
17:40That 92% compliance was pertaining to the submission
17:45of Solid Waste Management plans, Mr. Chair.
17:48So, meron pong provision under RA 9003
17:53which requires all the local government units
17:58to submit 10-year Solid Waste Management plans.
18:01Ibig sabihin may plano nalang
18:03pero hangon pa rin ang pagpapatupad sa mga plano.
18:06Ang dapat pong napupunta sa ating mga sanitary landfills
18:10ay residual waste lang po.
18:11Kaya po kung mapapansin po natin,
18:14mixed waste po yung mga nasa sanitary landfills
18:17kaya medyo mabilis po siyang mapuno
18:19at nagkakaroon po ng problema kinalaunan.
18:23Napunatuloy na walang silbi
18:24ang pagtuturo sa mga tao
18:26na mag-segregate kung walang maayos na sistema
18:28o partner na manggongolekta
18:30at hahanap ng gagamit sa mga recyclables.
18:33Bago mag-adjourn,
18:34inaprubahan sa committee level
18:35ang proposed na mahigit 28 billion pesos
18:38bukod pa sa karagdagang 556 million
18:40na hiling na budget ng DNR.
18:43Ako si Mariz Umaliang Inyong Saksi.