00:00.
00:05Sa muling pagsalang ni OVP Assistant Chief of Staff, Lemuel Ortonio, sa impeachment trial kahapon,
00:11kabilang sa mga kinwestyon, ang ginastos na confidential funds para ipambili ng gamot ng informants.
00:18Itutuloy sa Martes ang impeachment trial dahil regular holiday ang National Heroes Day sa lunes.
00:23Balita atin ni Ian Cruz.
00:24.
00:28Muling sumalang sa witness stand si OVP Assistant Chief of Staff, Asek Lemuel Ortonio, para sa cross-examination ng depensa.
00:36Una nilang sinilip ang hindi pagsumite ng physical and financial plan kasabay ng request ng OVP na confidential funds.
00:45Your request for additional budget was actually approved by the office of the President.
00:51That's correct, ma'am.
00:53.
00:54And in the process of approving your request for additional budget, no issue whatsoever was raised by either the DBM
01:04or the office of the President regarding the documents that you submitted.
01:10.
01:10We did not receive any comment regarding the submissions that we've made.
01:15Nasilip din ang paggamit sa confidential fund na nakasal sa physical and financial plan.
01:21The confidential funds were not used to fund the good governance program in itself, but the implementation thereof.
01:32Yes, that's correct, ma'am.
01:44Pinalagan ito ng prosecution na tinawag si Ortonio na incompetent na tumistigo kung saan naggastos o napunta ang confidential funds.
01:54He himself explained that he had no participation whatsoever in the disbursement of said confidential funds.
02:02So this witness, Your Honor, by his own admission, is incompetent to testify where the confidential funds were spent.
02:10Muling nilinaw kung alam ba ni Ortonio kung saan ginastos ang mga pondo.
02:14Base sa testimonya mo, Gino Ortonio, wala kang alam sa paggastos, pag-liquidate, pag-disburse ng confidential funds.
02:22Tama?
02:22Yes, that's correct, Your Honor.
02:24Sabi ni Gina Acosta, wala rin siyang alam.
02:27Based on what I have read in the news.
02:30Na testimonya niya?
02:31Yes, sir.
02:32Base sa pagkakaalam mo, alam ba ng Vice President kung paano ito ginastos?
02:40The way I understand it, sir, as the head of agency, I would understand that she knows the implementation, sir.
02:49Yes, so si Cornel Lachica alam din siyempre.
02:52Yes, sir, as the security officer.
02:55Inusisa naman ni Sen. Judge Rafi Tulfo kung bakit hindi tinanong ni Ortonio kung anong klaseng gamotang binili gamit ang
03:03confidential funds ng OVP.
03:05Did you ask kung anong medisina binili para sa anong medisina bibili ng informant, yung pera?
03:11When the time na nag-consult po ako with the security officer, sir, I did not ask anymore on the
03:18specifics.
03:18You are a very highly educated person from prestigious schools.
03:22Come on, it doesn't make sense.
03:24It defies logic.
03:26Tatanoy mo dapat.
03:27At the time po, sir, when I consulted with the security officer, sir, I was not able to ask anymore.
03:35Why not?
03:36It's part of your job.
03:36In fact, pumirma kay doon sa pag-reply mo sa EOM.
03:42Um, I asked, sir, for your process.
03:45So, pumirma kay nakapikit?
03:45Yes, sir.
03:47Um, no, sir, hindi naman po na nakapikit, sir, because, um, ah, nagtanong naman po ako sa security officer namin,
03:55sir, on how it was released or implemented on the ground.
04:00You could have asked La Chica and said, La Chica, bakit tin tayo pumunta sa DOH, maghingi tayo ng gawot
04:05para makalibre, makatipid tayo sa confidential funds?
04:07That I cannot answer, sir.
04:08Sa pag-interject ni Sen. Judge Kiko Pangilinan, kinwestyo niya kung bakit gamot ang binili bilang reward sa mga informant.
04:17Mahirap paniwalaan na kayo ay gumastos ng 122 milyon para sa gamot na reward dahil nag-surveillance yung mga informant
04:27at nabigyan ng reward at hiningi nila gamot at hindi ninyo binigyan ng gamot, binigyan ninyo ng pera para sila
04:35nang bibili ng gamot.
04:36May napansin naman si Sen. Judge Panfilo Lacson sa Physical and Financial Plan ng OVP Confidential Fund noong 2022 at
04:452023 na nagkakahalaga ng 500 milyon pesos.
04:50Anya, tila iisa at copy-paste lang ang nakasulat na physical target.
04:56Percentage of activities implemented without untoward security-related incidents.
05:08Paulit-ulit po ito, ano? Ano pong analysis nyo diyan?
05:12These are the activities that will be done, sir.
05:15I know. Hindi ba ito insulto sa common sense?
05:19Hindi man lang nyo binago ng konti.
05:21O ako na mag-describe. I think it's stupid.
05:26Sana man lang, binago-bago niya ng konti.
05:28Sinilip din ang mga dipangkaraniwang pangalan sa acknowledgement receipt na pinirmahan ng mga informant.
05:35Minsan ang natanong ng ilang Sen. Judges, baka alias ang mga ito.
05:41Ang alias po, anong kahalagahan?
05:45I'm not sure of the circumstances surrounding their use of alias.
05:49Under the anti-alias law, sir, inaalaw naman po yung paggamit ng alias,
05:53provided kailangan po nakabanggit din, nakadisclose kung ano yung real name.
06:00That should be a non-issue because even them,
06:02they never claimed that in any of their pleadings before this Honorable Court.
06:05Kailangan nyo po ba kung sino si Marcial Bonifacio?
06:09To be kind with your honor.
06:11I'm not familiar.
06:14Si Binigno Aquino Jr., si Ninoy.
06:19Siya mismo may alias.
06:21Dahil nabanggit si Ninoy, nag-react si Sen. Judge Bam Aquino,
06:26pamangkin ng pinaslang na dating senador.
06:28Tama po, si Ninoy Aquino po ang kanyang alias ay Marcial Bonifacio
06:33para makauwi po siya sa Pilipinas kung nasa Boston siya.
06:37Pero wala naman po siyang confidential funds.
06:39Bago magtapos ang cross-examination,
06:42hiniling naman ni Sen. Judge Migs Zubiri
06:45na hingin sa COA ang status ng kanilang findings sa confidential funds.
06:50Can this court make representation with the COA?
06:54If possible, during the duration of this trial,
06:57so that we may be guided as judges,
07:00can they make their findings already with finality?
07:03The Commission on Audit is an independent constitutional commission
07:07and I doubt if we would be well within our rights
07:12to compel them similar to a mandamus to act one way or the other.
07:20Sa cross-examination naman ng abogado ng BICE,
07:22ipinunto ni Ortonio na hindi pa naman daw pinal.
07:25Ang Notice of Disallowance ng COA sa OVP
07:28at pwede pa itong i-appela.
07:30Hindi rin daw umanog ginamit ang confidential funds
07:33sa mga regular na programa ng OVP.
07:37Ian Cruz, nagbabalita para sa GMA News.
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