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Lerin Gaines

Anniversary Celebration Edition VI | DISC 6: Vitality | 411 PODCAST (Episode 50)   "Where Everyday Conversations Lead to Financial Awareness"   Featuring: Coaching Sessions Thursday, Mentorship Series   Thursday | August 27th, 2026   Broadcasting on all social media platforms @LERINGAINES   https://leringaines.com  https://linktr.ee/leringaines  https://www.facebook.com/leringaines  http://instagram.com/leringaines  https://www.tiktok.com/@leringaines  http://twitter.com/leringaines  https://www.youtube.com/@leringaines  https://www.twitch.tv/leringaines  https://kick.com/leringaines  https://dailymotion.com/LerinGaines   Song of The Day: "Happy Birthday" by Stevie Wonder  Released 1980 | Hotter Than July   Burning Questions for Reflections!  What is your most memorable 411 PODCAST moment?   Share your response to tonight's Burning Questions...  Text: (609) 200-1098 | Email: Info@LerinGaines.com   DM on any social media platform @LERINGAINES (Facebook, Instagram, X, TikTok, YouTube, KICK, Twitch, DailyMotion)   Check out my FREE Monthly digital Newsletter 'Whispers of Wisdom' for updates, exclusives, and inspiration!   #LerinGaines #FinancialCoach #Black Diamond Consultations #DebtFreeLiving #WhispersofWisdom #VacationWithMe #BurningQuestions #Facebook #Instagram #TikTok #X #YouTube #KICK #Twitch #DailyMotion #411PODCAST #DISC6 #Vitality   DISCLAIMER: The content and information provided by Black Diamond Consultations are intended solely for educational and entertainment purposes. We do not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of the materials, and any reliance you place on them is strictly at your own risk. Our content is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice or judgment. Black Diamond Consultations shall not be liable for any errors or omissions in the educational and entertainment content or for any actions taken based on the information provided.   411 PODCAST  DISC 6: Vitality  Track 50: Anniversary Celebration Edition VI  ©️ 2026 Black Diamond Consultations Network  LerinGaines.com

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04:33And now, here's your guide to it all, entrepreneur, mentor, and financial coach, Laring Gates.

04:58Welcome, welcome, welcome.

05:00Welcome on in to the 4-in-1 podcast.

05:04This is an amazing day today.

05:07We are celebrating six years of the 4-in-1 podcast.

05:13I actually came up with some crazy idea, because that's what everybody thought I was crazy at the moment, to

05:22start a podcast and just go live on Instagram.

05:25And I started with maybe like 20 people.

05:30And honestly, I lost count today.

05:33But I'm so thankful for the movement.

05:35I'm so thankful for the friendships and the connections that I have, you know, been blessed with over the years.

05:43And I say it every night, but I'm still amazed by it and thankful.

05:50And I could not do it with each and without each and every one of you.

05:53And I most certainly could not do it without my executive producer.

05:57I want to thank God for giving me another opportunity to come out here and give you all the 4

06:04-in-1 podcast.

06:04Thank you so much.

06:16I don't know if we had some upgrades or some technical difficulties, but the opening was real dope.

06:23No, I've never done that before, but it was real interesting with the music in the background.

06:28So I like that.

06:29So maybe we got some upgrades on the show that nobody alerted me about, but we're going to do a

06:35real 4-in-1 style here today.

06:37I'm not going to keep you long.

06:39I really don't even have anything really to say.

06:42I just want to hear from, you know, the people out there.

06:46So again, as always, do me a favor.

06:49Please like, comment, share, subscribe, tag a friend, text a friend, do whatever you can do to help support the

06:54movement.

06:54I know we've been here for 6 years, but we still have so much more growth and so much more

07:00to do.

07:01And I need your help and I need your support.

07:03So please go ahead and hit that like button, subscribe, tag a friend, text a friend, repost, retweet, whatever you

07:10do.

07:12Please help share this out.

07:14Very special what's up to the people out there on Spotify.

07:17Thank you all so much.

07:18Thank you to YouTube.

07:20Thank you to the Facebook family.

07:22Thank you to the Daily Motion family.

07:25Again, just across the board.

07:27Thank you so much.

07:28Now we're going to get into my favorite segment of the show.

07:32I love speaking about music.

07:34So let's get into the song of the day.

07:45None other than Stevie Wonder.

07:48I was actually born when this song came out.

07:51Can't believe it.

07:521980 off of his album, Hotter Than July.

07:56Happy birthday.

07:57So I want to give a special happy birthday in one podcast.

08:02And that's pretty much all I want to say when it comes to the song of the day.

08:06You know what happens when that song comes on.

08:10When it's somebody's birthday and, you know, that's how you want to celebrate.

08:14Not the old, you know, traditional way you want to celebrate.

08:18At least I do with the Stevie version.

08:21Love that one.

08:23And now let's go ahead and hit these phone lines and reach out to friends.

08:29Let's see out there and see what we have going on here.

08:34Let's see.

08:49What's going on?

08:50What's going on, Antonio?

08:51What's good with you?

08:53Hey, boss.

08:54What's up?

08:55What's up?

08:56What's good?

08:56Welcome on in.

08:57I'm doing good, man.

08:58I'm doing good, actually.

09:00How are you doing?

09:01I'm doing good.

09:02I'm doing great.

09:03I feel amazing tonight.

09:04You know, celebrating.

09:07Just looking back.

09:08Congrats on the sixth year anniversary, man.

09:10That's awesome.

09:12I appreciate that.

09:13I appreciate you.

09:14I was looking at our episode, actually.

09:17I went back and watched the replay.

09:20It's interesting.

09:22Rising from the ashes?

09:23Absolutely.

09:24Yeah.

09:26I was like, look at what we did last year.

09:30Was it last year?

09:31Yeah, it was last year.

09:33And then your daily routine was talent on you.

09:36Right.

09:36The two separate.

09:37I think it was two separate seasons with you.

09:40So let's talk about that.

09:44So when did we first meet?

09:48When was that?

09:49I'd say about two years ago.

09:52Okay.

09:53Two years.

09:53Met you through Instagram.

09:55So now when you look back at the growth that you have made,

10:02tell about it.

10:04Man, it's, you know, it's crazy because I've been at it for about six years.

10:10And, you know, I'm in my infancy stages.

10:13But, you know, the sound from then to now, you know, I've been working on it.

10:17I got better people to help me.

10:19I got, you know, certain people to be sound engineers.

10:22And, you know, I'm more creative now because, you know, I love when life strikes back and odds are against

10:29you because, you know, I work better in those conditions.

10:32And so, yeah, man, a lot has happened since then, since your daily routine has been telling on you, the

10:39most recent one.

10:40And I actually hopped on a show, the best music show.

10:44And then I hopped on Mile High Minute and then Colorado Heavy Hitters.

10:50Finally got some local outlets to check me out.

10:52And I've been on a few other shows, you know, just I'm just trying to grow and be more of

10:57a, you know, a public persona within the music.

11:03Now, you said you mentioned the episode a couple times.

11:06So now I'm going to just flip it on you and ask you, is your daily routine telling on you?

11:12And that's a good question because, yes, you know, ever since, you know, sacrificing, you know, my body.

11:19But, you know what I mean, for my music, I've actually been in touch.

11:22Now I exercise.

11:24It's been a while since I've exercised.

11:25And now I wake up three days a week and I get into it.

11:29Hmm.

11:30Yeah.

11:31You know, it's interesting because I speak about, you know, debt-free living from the mental, spiritual, physical and financial.

11:39And I got to be honest.

11:41Can I just be honest?

11:42Like this year, 2026, when it comes to physical fitness for me, this is it right here.

11:51That's good.

11:52That's good to hear.

11:53No, that's not good.

11:55Did you?

11:56How you go?

11:56This is the year?

11:57No.

11:59I need to, I need to.

12:02You need to start, you're saying?

12:03Yeah, I need to straighten out.

12:05Oh, man.

12:06Yeah.

12:07Hey, it starts with baby steps because, you know, I was a personal trainer when I graduated, you know, in

12:122017.

12:13And I learned a lot from that.

12:15And, you know, it all starts with like how you preach, you know, starts with your eating and, you know,

12:20good mind, good body, you know, your good temple.

12:23So you're good to go.

12:24Oh, one thing, though, is that I stay active, though.

12:26I stay active, but actually having a fitness routine, that's definitely something that I can focus on, definitely.

12:35But I'm keeping it real.

12:37Now, if I came out here and was like, yeah, you know, I'd be hitting the gym and I'd be

12:41doing all this.

12:42And, yeah, I definitely don't want to do that.

12:45Yeah, I don't go to the gym.

12:47They're always too packed and you can never get a machine or exercise equipment because, you know, there's always somebody

12:52using it.

12:53And it's like, you know, you know how it goes.

12:55Unless you're going to like an expensive boutique gym where, you know, you got it all and there's not a

13:00lot of members.

13:02No, I do everything at home.

13:06Actually, I have another baby on the way.

13:08Oh, yeah, that's great.

13:09Congratulations on that.

13:10I remember you telling me that.

13:11Yeah, yeah, yeah.

13:12So, yeah, I've been, you know, just trying to show my daughter I have, that's four, you know, be active,

13:19you know.

13:20Right.

13:20Show her the active way.

13:25Well, I appreciate you for coming through.

13:27Thank you so much.

13:29And hang tight.

13:31Maybe we could bring you back on again.

13:33I definitely do appreciate you.

13:35And, yeah, thanks for stopping by.

13:38Appreciate you guys, you, for giving everybody a platform.

13:42Giving us a voice.

13:44No doubt.

13:45No doubt.

13:46All right.

13:46Talk to you soon.

13:48Yes, sir.

13:49All right.

13:51So, there you have it, ladies and gentlemen.

13:53That was Mr. Trujillo.

13:58Antonio Trujillo.

14:01Trujillo.

14:02There you go.

14:05I had to get it right.

14:07Sometimes these names, you know how I was in the beginning with the names, but Antonio Trujillo.

14:12There you go.

14:13Now, let's go ahead and see who else we have out there.

14:17Friend of the show.

14:18You know who he is.

14:19He's about to come up now.

14:32He's about to come up now.

14:34What's going on?

14:37Bird man, what's up?

14:39Oh, hey.

14:39How's it going?

14:40Okay.

14:41I was waiting to see if you was going to mention my name.

14:43Hey, I'm doing all right, man.

14:45I'm doing all right.

14:46I'm sorry about that.

14:47No, it's all good.

14:49Long time, no speak.

14:50Long time, no speak.

14:52Yeah, like what?

14:5324 hours?

14:56Right, right.

14:58So, what's good with you?

15:00Oh, man.

15:01I got out, went out and walked through the park.

15:04It was hot, but enjoyed it.

15:06Just trying to stay busy.

15:09You know, I enjoy our program on Wednesdays.

15:13I mean, I, you know, you always hear this thing about, you think you have problems, you think you went

15:22through things, but until, you know, you hear other people's stories, it's like, wow, man, I'm not the only one

15:32that has gone through some of the similar things.

15:35You know, and like I said, I've been enjoying it, my son, especially, you know, he's been, he said that,

15:43he said, you know, he said, listening to you too, man, he said, has helped me with a lot of

15:51things in his personal life.

15:53And, you know, I, you know, I told him, thank you.

15:56You know, I said, you know, you know, I've always tried to be there for him.

16:03And, you know, of course, you know, about my poetry, my videos.

16:08I had, I've had to put a pause on my videos because my program is acting up.

16:15I'm just waiting to hear back from him.

16:18But, you know, and I've had some, I guess you can say health issues, you know, and, but it hadn't

16:26slowed me down.

16:27So I'm still writing, I'm still, when I get the chance to go out and shoot videos, take pictures, I'm

16:37doing it all.

16:37And like I said, you know, Wednesdays, I look forward to Wednesdays now all the time.

16:44It seems like that's when my week begins is, you know, once we go on the program and afterwards, I

16:51feel great afterwards.

16:52Wow.

16:53And, you know, I know when it first started, I, you know, I was kind of feeling like, wow, man.

17:01But now I feel more comfortable when we sit on there and we talk and then we laugh.

17:08Well, we laugh and talk and it's like we throw the problems in, but we also talk about music.

17:15So that makes it, that makes it a whole lot better.

17:19Well, I just have to say, just as, as much as you might've been nervous and, and whatever you were

17:27feeling, I was feeling the same way because I shifted back in 2020.

17:33This is exactly how the podcast started, just open format.

17:37I used to talk about everything and then I started to shift it more towards, you know, financial awareness and

17:45spiritual and, and things of that nature.

17:47And that was a little nervous for me because I didn't know who would accept it, who didn't.

17:52And then finally I got to the point where I was like, whoever doesn't accept it, whatever, they're just not

17:57for me.

17:58So again, without you, I could have not done this.

18:03This was a transformational year for me and, um, I feel the shift.

18:08I see the shift and people are speaking about it now.

18:12So again, most certainly could not do it without you.

18:15It's definitely, we, we locked in now.

18:20I appreciate, you know, I really appreciate that, man, because, you know, I think, you know, as time goes on,

18:28especially, like I said, when I was, I was, I'd be thinking about when I was growing up, I was

18:34always teased.

18:36I was always bullied.

18:37I was always told, even from teachers that I would never be anything.

18:43And I sit back and I think about that and sometimes it hurts.

18:48And when I'm back there listening to my music or I'm back there, you know, practicing on my bass, working

18:53on a tune, sometime a teardrop comes because of that.

18:57And I'm like, wow, man, I look back and I look at my videos and I'm like, whoa, man, I

19:03never even thought that I could make videos like this.

19:07And I've had people who've actually asked me, well, how do you do it?

19:13I just told him, hey, man, just sit down and do it yourself.

19:17I mean, I will help a person, but I'm not going to give you my secret for free.

19:26You know what?

19:28See, you speaking like a musician.

19:30I know where you coming from.

19:33You know, and there's a lot of people who want me to give them everything for free.

19:41And I'm like, hey, man, just download a video program like I did and just work at it.

19:50And eventually you learn because that's no one taught me how to video.

19:56I just sit down and I just started working at it, working at it, working at it.

20:02Yeah, I made mistakes.

20:04There are some videos I made mistakes on.

20:07But then I went back and I've been redoing some old videos now because of my knowledge that I have

20:15of it.

20:17Right, right.

20:17And even my writing has, or it has improved a lot.

20:22Now, I used to write a lot of short stuff.

20:26Now they're starting, I'm putting a few more lines to it.

20:29And it's starting to stretch out a little bit more now.

20:32Right.

20:33And I'm liking it, you know, I'm looking at my, I'm like, wow, man, I can't believe I'm writing all

20:38of this.

20:39But I am.

20:42That part right there, but I am, right.

20:46Yes.

20:48But anyway, I just want to say thank you for having me on here every week.

20:54It's been a blessing.

20:57Same.

20:57And, you know, you platform to everybody.

20:59So, hey, I just want to say thank you.

21:02You are so welcome.

21:03And, of course, we got a heck of a lot more coming.

21:06So stick around, hang around, and, you know, maybe we'll bring you back on towards the end of the show.

21:12And we'll see who else we have out here.

21:14But I appreciate you.

21:16Have a good one.

21:16Yes.

21:17All right.

21:19There you have it, ladies and gentlemen.

21:21That was author, poet, Birdman313.

21:25And I have a very special guest coming up right now.

21:30Let's see.

21:30Let's get her on the phone.

21:46What's going on?

21:47You out there, Ms. SOS?

21:49Yeah.

21:49Can you hear me?

21:50Oh, yeah.

21:51I hear you loud and clear.

21:52What's going on?

21:54I'm, everything's, well, everything is okay.

21:56I'm not going to say great because it's not.

21:58But, you know, life.

22:03You there?

22:04Now the phone wants to act up.

22:08Is what it is.

22:09Wow.

22:09But I just want to say congratulations to you.

22:13Damn.

22:14Oh, wait.

22:15I hear you, but you keep going in and out.

22:17It was going so well.

22:18Oh, wait.

22:19Should I call that?

22:20Yeah, I hear you.

22:22How about now?

22:23How about now?

22:27Yeah, I hear you.

22:27I knew this was going to happen.

22:28Okay.

22:29Okay.

22:30Yeah.

22:31Yeah.

22:32So, no, I just want to say congratulations.

22:35And, you know, I was there with you when you first started.

22:39Absolutely.

22:40On Instagram, right?

22:42Yeah.

22:43What was that, like, 2020?

22:44Is that when you started in December?

22:47It was August.

22:50It was today.

22:51Okay.

22:51Of 2020.

22:52But I don't think the momentum really started kicking up until the wintertime, though.

22:57So you might be right.

22:58Yeah, I think I came on, like, maybe November time or something like that.

23:04Yeah.

23:04So, how are you?

23:06I'm doing good.

23:07I'm doing good.

23:08I can't complain.

23:09I'm studying and working behind the scenes, which can be a little nerve-wracking sometimes.

23:15But, yeah, I'm doing good.

23:17But you have really been rising to the top, man, doing your thing.

23:24Oh, like that Kenny Burke song, Rising to the Top?

23:28Exactly.

23:30But, like that, yep.

23:32Yeah.

23:33Yeah.

23:34How's it in your neck of the woods?

23:39How's the weather?

23:41It's hot right now.

23:45And, you know, this place is full of bugs.

23:49Just, it's a pain in the ass.

23:52But I'll tell you one thing I do like about it.

23:56It's very green.

23:58It's very green here.

24:00And I love trees.

24:02So they just have, you know.

24:09Oh, no.

24:10I think we're losing you.

24:13I think we're losing you.

24:15I think we're losing you.

24:15I think we're losing you everywhere.

24:21Did I come now?

24:22What's that?

24:23Yeah.

24:24I think it's going in and out.

24:26Yeah.

24:27How about now?

24:29Yeah.

24:30I can hear you.

24:31Okay.

24:32Yeah.

24:32This is probably going to be a short conversation.

24:35But if you can hear me.

24:38So I met you back in, I guess, 2020.

24:43And I was in Charlottesville, Virginia.

24:47Then 2023, my son called me and told me that he was getting ready to be a father.

24:55And so I always told him, even as a teenager, I'm going to be the one to raise his child.

25:01So I packed up and move all my shit to Alabama.

25:06And I've been here.

25:07Yeah.

25:08I'm telling everybody I'm in fucking Alabama.

25:11And anyway.

25:16Oh, did you have to bleep that one?

25:18No.

25:22I don't even know why this damn place is on the map.

25:25I keep asking people, why is this place on the map?

25:29I don't get it.

25:30But it's going to be a lot of people who probably hate me for saying that.

25:34But anyway.

25:36Yeah.

25:36So I got my grandson.

25:38He's cute as a button.

25:40He's bad as hell.

25:42In a good way.

25:44Yeah.

25:45And he's very smart.

25:46He's very smart.

25:47When I say smart, I mean, like, you can see the wheels turning in his head.

25:53That kind of smart.

25:54Like, very inquisitive.

25:54Inquisitive.

25:56Yeah.

25:57You know, but still a three-year-old.

25:59You know, we have a great time together.

26:02So basically, that was just my whole thing for, you know, moving here.

26:07Because other than that, if I was on the highway, I'd just keep on driving past.

26:12You know what I'm saying?

26:13But I'm here now.

26:16Well, be careful out there.

26:18Because I don't hear great things about where you're at lately.

26:22That's not good.

26:23Yeah.

26:24Yeah, I know.

26:25Yeah.

26:26You know, and I'm just like, well, I guess, you know, God looks out for fools and babies.

26:30So, I'm doing my thing.

26:33And, you know, he'll be going to school probably next year.

26:38He'll be four.

26:39I told his parents, I'm out of here.

26:41I'm blowing this popsicle stand.

26:44I thought you was going to stay there and raise him.

26:48What do you mean you're out?

26:49Oh, no, no, no, no.

26:50Just until he goes to school.

26:53Oh, okay.

26:54Okay.

26:58School.

27:00Oh, okay, okay.

27:03All right, that makes sense.

27:06And he gets to start pre-school next year.

27:15Daycare centers and all that stuff.

27:17Oh, yeah.

27:18That makes sense.

27:20Yeah, they've had a good life with me being here.

27:23I'm going to take a whole lot of credit, okay?

27:28Yeah, because grandma's been rolling.

27:30He calls me Titi.

27:33He said, hey, Titi.

27:36I was like, hey, boy.

27:39So, anyway, Laren, thanks.

27:43I wanted to say something because you said something that you love greenery, you love trees and stuff, and I

27:51don't know if you can hear me because it's going in and out.

27:53But one memorable moment that I could think of of the 4-on-1 podcast is when you introduced us

28:00to tree boxing.

28:02Oh, we ended up missing her.

28:04She ended up dropping off.

28:05But, yeah, so SOS came up with the term tree boxing.

28:09And I'm going to tell you what that is.

28:10We were talking about people who basically are spying on you.

28:16They might be breaking up with you, trying to break up with you.

28:19We don't know.

28:20But in reality, they still be checking for you.

28:24So, ladies and gentlemen, you ever have anybody out there that you broke up with but you found out that

28:31they were still checking for you?

28:32So, SOS brought the term in tree boxing, and I just wanted to, you know, let her know about that

28:38tree boxing.

28:42SOS, you still there?

28:43Remember you brought the term tree boxing to us?

28:48Oh, I think you're on mute for some reason.

28:53Oh, okay.

28:54All right.

28:54Oh, yeah.

28:55There you go.

28:56Yeah.

28:56Yeah, I'm cracking up.

28:59Yeah, that was one of our most memorable moments.

29:02Tree boxing.

29:04Uh-huh.

29:05Yep.

29:06And I wouldn't be surprised if somebody's tree boxing over the internet trying to find me.

29:12But anyway, that's another story.

29:15I know that's right.

29:17So, I want to bring on somebody so you can talk.

29:23So, I'm going to try to bring this individual on, let's say.

29:26Oh, okay.

29:27Surprise for you.

29:29Birdman, are you there?

29:30Oh, Lord.

29:31Yes, I am.

29:33Yes, I am.

29:34How are you doing, SOS?

29:37Hey, how are you?

29:40I'm all right.

29:41I'm over here cracking up.

29:43You are wild.

29:46I know, I know a lot of people are going to say, what's wrong with Alabama?

29:52There's a whole lot of damn things wrong with Alabama.

29:55Well, hey, you ought to be here in Texas.

29:59You ought to be here in Texas.

30:00I don't even know if I want to trade places.

30:04Oh, God.

30:06So, how are you doing?

30:08All right.

30:09How about yourself?

30:10I'm hanging in there, really.

30:12I'm hanging in there.

30:13I have no complaints.

30:14I always hear you and Laren, you know, on the shows and stuff.

30:20And I listened to your last one about the inheritance and what you would do and what you shouldn't do

30:28and who you should tell.

30:29Well, I was cracking up at y'all.

30:32Girl, man, I told you.

30:33It was so funny.

30:34Didn't I tell you that that was going to be a memorable one?

30:36I told you.

30:37Oh, yeah.

30:38Yeah.

30:38It was funny.

30:39It was funny because I was talking to y'all, of course, you know, this is after the fact.

30:45And I'm like, I ain't telling nobody shit, okay?

30:50What?

30:51You ain't right.

30:54I ain't telling you nothing.

31:01I'm telling the truth, though.

31:03I was telling the truth about that.

31:05Yes, but it was a great show.

31:09It was nice speaking to you.

31:10You too.

31:11I don't know how long y'all are going to stay on, but I want to introduce y'all all

31:16to Antonio.

31:17I'm not sure if you've ever met him before, but he's been on the podcast as well.

31:21So, we're going to bring him in.

31:22Okay.

31:23Hey, what's up?

31:25Hello.

31:27Hey, how you doing?

31:29Great.

31:30How are you?

31:30Nice to meet you.

31:33Yes.

31:34I think, Antonio, you're from Colorado, right?

31:38Yes, sir.

31:40I'm from Colorado.

31:43So, Tanya.

31:45Yes.

31:46Would you like to go to Colorado since you don't like the Alabama heat?

31:51Well, I'm not really into cold either.

31:54I know that's right.

31:55Me either.

31:56What about you, Birdman?

31:57How about Colorado?

31:58No.

32:00No.

32:01I have cousins there, and no, no.

32:06But I will say I'll go for a visit, but I don't know about living there.

32:11Same here.

32:13Same here.

32:14I will go for a visit, but not living because I cannot deal with the cold anymore.

32:20Yeah.

32:21So, Antonio, can you convince us?

32:23What's good about Colorado?

32:26Nature.

32:26We love nature.

32:28Oh, okay.

32:29I say we love to fish.

32:29We love to go out, you know, just hang out.

32:32Oh, you mean?

32:32We go, we like to travel around Colorado, you know what I mean?

32:38But I live in a small town, a small city, but outside our city, there's a lot of nature.

32:43I love to go out.

32:44I love to see in the mountains.

32:46I bet it's a really beautiful.

32:47Now, hey, that's me there with a camera.

32:50That's me there with a camera, yes.

32:54But, Antonio, if I can say, this is Tanya speaking.

32:58I hear nothing but great things about Colorado.

33:01Colorado, I've never heard anything bad about Colorado yet.

33:10Did we lose them?

33:11We might have lost them.

33:12Oh, can y'all still hear me?

33:15Oh, yeah, I can hear you.

33:17Yes, I can.

33:18Yeah.

33:19Yeah.

33:19So, wow, so it was just the three of us?

33:23Yeah.

33:24Remember Jonathan?

33:26Jonathan was in the backstage, and then all of a sudden, I don't know what happened, but he disappeared.

33:31I wanted to speak to Jonathan.

33:32It's been a minute.

33:34I know, because Jonathan was one of the first ones, too, in our group.

33:39And then Queen Dawn Spirit was going to come on tonight, but she has some other obligations to do.

33:46Mr. Nate Perry, I'm waiting for him to show up.

33:49She's doing very well.

33:50Although I haven't seen her in a long time, but she's doing very well.

33:55Nate?

33:55You know, I can't even remember when I first started coming on here,

34:00but I know it's been a while.

34:03I think 22, maybe.

34:06Can you hear me okay?

34:08Yes.

34:09Did I cut out?

34:11No, we can hear you.

34:16And she can't hear us.

34:18But we can hear her.

34:20Yeah, yes, yes.

34:23But Birdman, I think it was 22, 2020.

34:26Okay, yes.

34:27I think I was still in Charlottesville.

34:29Yeah, I hear you.

34:30I think, yeah.

34:32I think I was still in Charlottesville when Birdman started coming on, and I had left in 2023.

34:40Right, yeah.

34:41Because it's funny how Laren and I met.

34:44You know, I thought, I thought, I'm like, oh, this is a scam.

34:47I guess he thought I was a scam.

34:49And then finally, I just said, hey, man, let me, just let me see what's up.

34:55Hey, here we are.

34:57And you know what?

34:58I had somebody.

35:00Laren.

35:02Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

35:03How's she doing?

35:05We talk all the time.

35:07We keep in touch.

35:08She's doing great.

35:08Her son is just adorable, Elijah.

35:12So, you know, we swap pictures and, you know, text each other.

35:17And, you know, she's telling me, you should come out and visit.

35:21I really would like to go visit.

35:23Yeah.

35:24But she seems to be doing good.

35:27Yeah, she listens to the show.

35:29What's going on, Sophie?

35:30How are you doing?

35:31If you out there, if you happen to come across this episode.

35:35But, yeah.

35:35Yeah.

35:36She's probably in La La Land right about now.

35:38I think it's like seven hours ahead.

35:42Yeah.

35:43Yeah.

35:44It's so mystical, too, how this thing comes full circle.

35:48Because I remember there were several times where I was like, all right, I'm just going to quit.

35:53Yeah.

35:55I was like, I'm just going to quit.

35:57And a couple times right before I would go live, I would be like, is this going to be the

36:03last time today?

36:06Really?

36:06Yeah.

36:07I would say, is this going to be the last time?

36:09And then there were some times where I wanted to quit.

36:12And I said to myself, this is going to be the last episode.

36:15And then something mystical would happen.

36:18Somebody would come on and be like, that really resonated with me.

36:21Or somebody would DM me.

36:23Or somebody would text me.

36:24And I would be like, that must be the reason why I need to keep doing it.

36:28Exactly.

36:29And, you know, it's funny you say that because there was times when I'm like, when we first started and

36:36I was like, hmm.

36:38Is he going to quit because I just didn't, I didn't feel, I was like, I'm struggling somewhere.

36:47That's why I sent you that message that time.

36:49I'm struggling.

36:50I'm trying to get better at what the things I say.

36:54Because, like, it was new to me.

36:56I mean, I've been on podcasts before, but not just by myself.

37:03So, I think that was the struggling part.

37:06I had to get used to it.

37:08And there was times when I was like, I'd get ready to say, Laren, I'm gone, man.

37:13But then I'm like, no, I can't quit.

37:16I can't quit.

37:17I said, man, this brother that gave me a chance.

37:20Oh, no.

37:21I said, man, I feel like if I quit on him, then I feel like a failure.

37:26But that's part of the mentorship to come out here and be vulnerable and podcast night after night after night

37:34so that you get comfortable in that craft of what you're doing.

37:37Yeah.

37:38Yes.

37:39Yes.

37:40Repetition, consistency, that's all key.

37:43And when we look at the greatest, when we look at all of these artists that we look up to

37:48and I speak about all these musicians, that's exactly what they have done.

37:53Consistency, repetition.

37:54We only see in the final product.

37:57But we don't see what happened behind the scenes, how many years it took for them to get to, you

38:02know, where they are.

38:04Yeah, that is so true.

38:05Mm-hmm.

38:06Very true.

38:07We look at them and we think, oh, you know.

38:10And some people look at it and they're like, oh, I can go ahead and duplicate the same thing.

38:14And that's when they fail because you have no idea what it took that person to get to, you know,

38:19where they are.

38:20Yeah.

38:21Yeah.

38:21You know, I, I've watched a few interviews with, with like musicians from the 80s.

38:29And they talk about the 80s versus now and how they did things and how they got into the industry.

38:38And they're like, these people today, they don't know what the hell we went through back in the 80s.

38:43You know, it's like, everything's so different.

38:45Mm-hmm.

38:47Yeah.

38:47Yeah, exactly.

38:48I, I've been reading, I've been reading a lot of, I go on Substack.

38:53And I've been reading it, I've been going on a lot of poems and I've been chatting with other writers

39:02now.

39:02And I think that has given me, that's why I said my poetry has changed a lot because it has

39:08given me a lot of insight.

39:11And it's like a whole bunch of them, they said the same thing.

39:14They was like, you know, cause we, they talk about everything on Substack and it's, it's pretty good.

39:20And they talk about music and you'd be surprised at how the struggles that a lot of the musicians went

39:27through.

39:28Mm-hmm.

39:29That's the ones nowadays, they don't go through that.

39:32No.

39:33I mean, I was shocked to know that, you know, that Teddy Pendergrass in the Blue Notes, when they first

39:39started off, they said most of the time they didn't even get paid for a show.

39:44They done traveled somewhere, did a show, and the manager or whoever took off with the money.

39:50Mm-mm.

39:51Absolutely not.

39:52No.

39:53You know, and you hear, you hear stories like that.

39:56And then it makes me think about what's something that happened to me where a lady said, oh, I'm going

40:02to have this open mic.

40:03And I booked a plane flight, rental car, hotel.

40:09I went back to Michigan because it was in my hometown.

40:13Get there and guess what?

40:15The people, the people said, oh, we're not, we, we really ain't even open.

40:20And I'm like, yeah.

40:22Well, and she said, we're doing renovation and then I has a few friends with me and we are, we

40:28showed them the messages that she had been putting on Facebook.

40:32And then one of them said, oh yeah, she's from here.

40:36This is what she do to people.

40:39Oh.

40:40Yeah, yeah, and then when they were doing Zoom, you know, and I signed up for it and she was

40:49with the same people that was going to do the Zoom.

40:53She told them, don't put me on.

40:56And she, I forgot, she told some type of story about it.

41:01So the lady said, you know what?

41:03She said, he's from Benton Harbor.

41:06Oh.

41:07That's right down the road from a, she said, let me find out what's going on.

41:10Cause he'd been gone a long time from Benton Harbor.

41:13She said, and she said, that's what really made her look into it.

41:16And me and her was chatting back and forth.

41:19And I told her what the deal was.

41:21And she said, okay.

41:22And she said, because she said, I know, she said, if they had us, and she had to say, you

41:28came from Benton Harbor.

41:29She said, within the last 10 years, she said, I wouldn't even gave you a chance.

41:35That's crazy.

41:37Yeah.

41:38Yeah.

41:39And then she told me, then she sent me a message.

41:42She said, oh, if you want to get refunded, you talk to the people who had the place for the

41:48open mic.

41:49I'm like, nevermind.

41:51You know what?

41:52Right.

41:53Talk this up as a loss.

41:55You know, that's all I could do.

41:57That's so mystical that you're speaking about that because I think it was a couple years ago, maybe two years

42:03ago.

42:04Somebody wanted me to host a show.

42:06I'm not going to say what kind of show it is because I don't know if they're listening.

42:10But in any case, they wanted me to host this show in California.

42:15And so for me to get on a plane and the book, the hotel and all this other stuff, that's

42:19going to cost some coins.

42:21This individual told me that they would pay me $50.

42:26Say what?

42:28Oh, man.

42:29Say what?

42:30They said that they would pay me $50 to host a show.

42:42I got to laugh at that one.

42:44They would listen to the podcast and watch the podcast.

42:48And that's how they offered it to me and said, yeah, I'll pay you $50.

42:53Wow.

42:55No.

42:56Damn.

42:57You have to know what your worth is.

42:59You know what I'm saying?

43:00And it's a shame that maybe other people don't know what your worth is.

43:02And that's why some of these friendships and relationships don't work.

43:07Exactly.

43:08We talk about that all the time.

43:10But as long as you know what you're worth, that's all that matters.

43:13Oh, yeah.

43:14Absolutely.

43:15And you definitely have the choice to say yes or no.

43:18Right.

43:19Right.

43:19That's your choice.

43:22Yeah.

43:23That's so interesting because I was just thinking about that today.

43:26I was like, remember that time.

43:28Yeah.

43:30Hey, and you know who made that song, don't you?

43:32Oh, yeah.

43:35Oh, SOS.

43:36Did you see the Michael Jackson movie?

43:39I did not.

43:41Oh, you got to see it.

43:42I know.

43:43People have been telling me that.

43:45I don't do anything here.

43:47And I mean, I'm not saying this to get people to feel sorry for me or anything.

43:51I just don't.

43:52I take care of my grandson.

43:53I come home.

43:54And all I can do is just, like, fall asleep because I'm tired, you know?

43:59I know what you mean.

44:01Yeah.

44:02Exactly what you mean.

44:03I have seen it, like, ten times.

44:06What?

44:08I saw it, like, one and a half times.

44:11One and a half.

44:11Yeah, well, see, I have it on, he's on, they're on Starz.

44:16Oh.

44:17Network.

44:17Oh, okay.

44:18So, you know, when there ain't nothing else on, and I see it says Michael, I just pop on that,

44:24you know?

44:24I'm like, skip it, you know?

44:25My favorite part of the movie is when he walks in and he picks the, what is it, the lawyers

44:33or whoever he's going to work with.

44:35Yes.

44:35And he's asked him, what would you like me to do?

44:39And he tells him, and he's like, and do it immediately.

44:44Ooh.

44:46Immediately.

44:47You know what, Jake?

44:48That's the part I like, too, because I'm like, he's sitting there, and the other, if you notice the reactions

44:54to all the other people,

44:55the other ones, it was almost like, they was, like, scared.

44:58Right.

44:59And then the guy said, Mr. Jack, he said, everybody leave the room.

45:04Right.

45:05I think I found, I think I found, not everybody leave the room also, but I think I found my

45:10guy.

45:11Yeah.

45:12Oh.

45:13Yeah.

45:14Yes, he did.

45:15Wow.

45:17Yeah, that movie.

45:19But there's going to be, there's going to be a part two.

45:22Yes, it is.

45:23So it really did well, is what you're saying.

45:26Oh, yeah.

45:27Okay.

45:28Yeah.

45:29I think Spider-Man is one of, it's only, only movie, it might be another one that grows more money

45:38than Michael did on the, you know, that they was talking about.

45:42I took my kids to see it.

45:44I'm like, this is something that we got to watch as a family.

45:46Like, let's check this out, because you know how I feel about music.

45:49So I took the daughters to go see it.

45:53Oh, how are you girls doing?

45:55They're so pretty.

45:56They grown adults now.

45:59They ain't little no more.

46:01They telling you what to do?

46:05Yeah, they think so.

46:08But no, I let them, I let them get away with a lot of stuff.

46:12A lot of things that I wasn't able to get away with.

46:14I'm like, all right.

46:15Yeah.

46:15Okay.

46:16You can have that one.

46:18That's good.

46:19So do they, do they like hanging out with you as a dad?

46:23Yeah, but you know what happens when they start to get older?

46:25They like to hang out with their friends more.

46:28Yes.

46:29Learn that.

46:30And at first, at first I felt a certain way.

46:33I felt the type of way in the beginning.

46:35And then now.

46:36Yeah.

46:37And then don't let them get a little boyfriend, because then now they really, you know what

46:41I'm saying?

46:42So I'll be like, you know what?

46:43Now.

46:45Yeah.

46:46But that's what happens when you have daughters.

46:49I know.

46:50I'm, I'm somebody's daughter.

46:52You know what I mean?

46:53I mean, my dad's dead now, but when I was a teenager and I would, you know, be on the

46:59West coast, live with my mom.

47:01And then I come to DC and live with my dad and, you know, go to school or whatever and

47:07meet a guy.

47:08And then my dad would meet the guy and he's like, I don't, I don't know if I like him.

47:12He look kind of slick.

47:14Right.

47:15And then I'll be saying, well, most of my guys probably don't know.

47:20You probably are a lot like you, dad.

47:22So what does that mean?

47:24You know what I mean?

47:25Like my dad was slick.

47:27He was a slick ass.

47:28You know what I'm saying?

47:30Yeah.

47:30No.

47:31That's funny.

47:32You said that.

47:32Cause my daughter always say, Dan, I want to find a man just like you.

47:37And I'm like, oh Lord, no, you don't.

47:39You know what?

47:41One of my.

47:43No, no, no.

47:45Hey, you know what?

47:46No.

47:47Then she said, should I ask mom about that?

47:50Oh no, please don't ask about that either.

47:53You know, but.

47:54You know what I had to tell her?

47:56And most girls always want to find a man like your dad.

48:01I said, find someone that's like the new version of me.

48:05Find somebody that's like the 2.0 version of me.

48:07Because of the younger version of me used to cuss people out.

48:10You don't want, you don't want that one.

48:13Yeah.

48:14Yeah.

48:15Right.

48:15You don't want that one.

48:17You know?

48:18Oh my goodness.

48:20That is so funny.

48:22Oh Lord.

48:23I got boys.

48:26And we are up against the clock.

48:28We're going to have to get on up out of here.

48:30I thank y'all so much for this.

48:31This was so much fun.

48:33Yes, it was.

48:34It was tree flowing.

48:36It's good to hear your voice.

48:37And so is.

48:39You too.

48:40You too.

48:41Yes.

48:41Yes, sir.

48:44Thank you all so much.

48:45I appreciate y'all.

48:47The replay will be available minutes after we hang up.

48:52So go ahead and check that out.

48:54Share it out and all that good stuff.

48:56And again, thank y'all so much.

48:58Could not get to this point without y'all.

49:00And we got so much more to go.

49:03Well, congratulations again.

49:05And keep up the good work.

49:06Much love, everyone.

49:07Yeah.

49:08Congratulations, man.

49:11All right.

49:11Take care, y'all.

49:13Yep.

49:13Later.

49:14Bye-bye.

49:15Hey, everybody.

49:15Yep.

49:17All right, ladies and gentlemen, there you have it.

49:20We had some of the friends come through.

49:23Miss SOS has been a minute since I spoke to her.

49:27Birdman 313.

49:29Antonio Trujillo.

49:30We did have Mr. Jonathan Martin Ives.

49:34I don't know.

49:35I guess he got cold feet.

49:36But I'll reach out to him later and see what's going on with him.

49:40But thank you all so much for joining.

49:42I appreciate y'all.

49:52I feel that I have, I guess, I'm able to sit in this seat.

49:58That's a great way to say it.

49:59I'm able to sit in this seat because when I first started, I didn't know what I was doing.

50:03And I was just out here doing it.

50:06And it was just God who gave me everything that I had.

50:09Like I said, there were several times where I was like, all right, we're going to quit.

50:12We're not doing this.

50:13We're not doing this.

50:13You know, I was worried about how many people was watching and the likes and the views and all of

50:19this other stuff.

50:19I was just so coming from a different place.

50:24And now I came to a point where I was just like, well, if you don't watch it, I'm all

50:28right with it.

50:29If you do watch it, I'm okay with it.

50:31If you do subscribe or whatever, I'm all right with it.

50:35And a minute that I backed up, and this is for each and every one of you out there doing

50:39something.

50:40A minute that you back up and just let God handle it.

50:42Trust and believe things come into place.

50:45Things come out of nowhere.

50:46Where I don't have to fight for anything that's mine.

50:50And I feel like I have arrived.

50:53Not arrived, but I feel like I'm able to sit in this seat now.

50:57Through all that I have done, I felt that I am able to actually sit here and just do what

51:02I'm supposed to do.

51:04So on that note, again, thank you all so much.

51:06Take care.

51:07I will see you when I see you.

51:10Y'all have a good night.

51:11Talk to you soon.

51:13Take care.

51:25Take care.

51:56Take care.

52:24I will see you soon.

52:26Take care.

52:34Take care.

52:35Take care.

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