00:00Hello, welcome to INS, both of you. So, first of all, congratulations on the win. So, first of all, we'll
00:09start by asking you about your journey, the overall journey you had on Raiders. So, how would you describe it?
00:15One by one, you can answer.
00:18So, Rida, you want to go first?
00:20Yeah, for me, it has been a rollercoaster ride. It has been, it started off slow, where I was figuring
00:28out how the game went, how to be an innocent, and then to catching a traitor, then to becoming a
00:33traitor, doing a task, understanding that it is a little draining for me emotionally, and then somehow figuring out how
00:39to reach finale. It definitely has been a rollercoaster ride.
00:44So, as you mentioned that, first of all, you were an innocent, and then you became a traitor. So, obviously,
00:50they were two very different roles. So, which, what do you think was the key difference between these two roles,
00:56and which role did you personally enjoy more?
01:00Okay, the difference is, when you're an innocent, you absolutely do not know who the innocents are, and who the
01:08traitors are. So, you're constantly in, you're hunting, like, you know,
01:13you're a hunter, trying to hunt who might be the traitor. But when you're a traitor, you know exactly who
01:18the innocents are, and who the traitors are, and in your head, because you're a traitor, you become someone who
01:23can be hunted, you know?
01:25So, for me, I absolutely think I did an exceptional job as an innocent. At that point, I kind of
01:32realized who exactly were the traitors, how to go about it. I had points against everyone.
01:37However, I really did want to know how to play the game as a traitor as well. That's why I
01:42took the blackmail, and I accepted it.
01:44But, in the meantime, as much as I had the roadmap to reach the finale, or to reach and win
01:50the game, it was also an emotional ride for me, because a lot of these people I had made bonds
01:57with when I was an innocent.
01:58So, when I was an innocent, I played for Team Innocence, and as a traitor, I had to play as
02:02a traitor. But yeah, so for me, I personally think I was an amazing innocent.
02:06Yeah, so do you think that becoming a traitor in the later stage of the show, was it to your
02:12disadvantage? Did you find it a little, like...
02:16I'm not saying disadvantage. It definitely was a lot harder, because I had... So, even as an innocent, I had
02:23the first three days to kind of understand the game, understand how I want to play as an innocent, understand
02:27the people, their emotions, and everything, right?
02:29But I only had three days to be a traitor, so I couldn't even take some time to figure it
02:34out how it was. It was just quick, quick, quick, who's the next, who's the next, who's the next? You
02:38know, you're reaching the finale.
02:39So, I barely got time to even be equipped enough to know how to play as a traitor. Maybe... No,
02:46I don't think... No, I can't lie. So, I don't think I would have been an amazing traitor if I
02:49started off in the beginning as well. I just can't lie. I'm not a person who can lie, or act.
02:54Okay. Crystal, the same question for you first. How would you describe your journey, your traitor's journey? What were your
03:02key takeaways, if you'll have to?
03:05Honestly, day one, I wanted to be a traitor, and I became a traitor. And I wouldn't want it any
03:11other way. I would love to... If I had to do this again, I'll do it again and again and
03:16again.
03:16Yes, I'm not fond of lying and manipulation. But if it is for the game, and everyone understands that, it's
03:23the best thing ever.
03:24You know, when you... Like Rida said, like, when you are a traitor, you know everyone's identity.
03:29So, you're just playing with their brain and your brain. And that is something that I truly enjoyed.
03:35You know, at every point, like, convincing people that I'm innocent, I'm innocent.
03:40And knowing that you're not, I think that journey was amazing. And also, whether you believe it or not, I
03:48mean, I don't know, it's debatable.
03:49But you have power once you're a traitor. You have control once you're a traitor. Because you know, like, weak,
03:57you know, you know, you know, soft corners of people, their weaknesses.
04:01So, you like, play on all of that. And wo samajna is a task. But once you understand that, I
04:06think it is very easy to manipulate people.
04:10I think that is the mistake I did. Instead of seeing it as a power, which again, if I had
04:16a little time, I would have figured it out, maybe.
04:19But it was just three days left. So, that is all I had. Instead of seeing it as a power,
04:23I started seeing it as a threat.
04:24That, oh, my God, people are going to catch me. People are going to catch me. People are going to
04:27catch me.
04:28That drove my anxiety to a point where I was like, oh, my God, this is not a privilege at
04:32all.
04:32So, this, I like the perspective. So, she saw it as a power as to how she could make the
04:37next move.
04:38I saw it as a threat. Like, oh, my God, now I'm going to be hunted. Like, I am the
04:43person who's a target instead of seeing who can I target next.
04:46Yeah. And I feel like as a traitor from day one, I decided consciously not to make friends with people
04:54so that I don't die in guilt.
04:56And that is like something that I stood by. I did not make friends. Yes. Of course, I made connections.
05:02I made like emotional conversations here and there. But I knew that outside this game, if these people are not
05:08my friends, it's fine.
05:09And I'm going to live my life happily. But I just did not want to go out of my way
05:13to make friends because then I felt very bad.
05:16Like, in the case of Rhea, which was my friend earlier and then I had to remove points to remove
05:21words.
05:21So, that really was like one of the worst eliminations for me that I actually felt like, oh, my God,
05:27today I feel like my job is a bad job.
05:29Other than that, I didn't feel it at all because I had no friendship with anyone.
05:33So, I think that was something that I kept in mind consciously that do not make friends because it's going
05:39to come bite you in the...
05:41Yeah, I think that's what happened with me as well. I connected with so many people so much that I
05:47felt I took it personal instead of it being a game key.
05:50I'm a bad person. I'm a terrible person and not looking at it as a game. That's also an interesting
05:56point because I...
05:56Because you didn't start as a traitor. So, you didn't have that thought in your mind. You were just really
06:01making connections.
06:02Yeah, as an interesting, you kind of want to trust someone.
06:05I don't trust a little, bro, because you're always trusting every time.
06:10So, Kristen, you would say you were like the flag bearer of the traitors this season.
06:15This was your first reality show and you were like, yes, you were the...
06:21You had so many co-traitors throughout the show. They all got eliminated and you...
06:25There were like times when you were just saved, you know, by the skin.
06:30So, what... Like, how would you...
06:33As you mentioned that your strategy was not to get emotionally to a...
06:37What else were going on in your head? What were your strategies?
06:41And did you like have anything else? Like, what was your game plan per se as a traitor?
06:47Honestly, this game, like when I watch it now as a viewer also, I feel like this girl is like
06:52a cat with nine lives.
06:55I feel like everyone that came for me just went on their own out.
06:59It's like you come attack me and you're out. I don't know what is happening.
07:03But I played with my whole heart and I feel like there was no strategy.
07:09I didn't think that my co-traitors were bad or you know, whatever.
07:14Kullu was an amazing co-traitor.
07:16Like, he was very happy to save me.
07:20And he was very happy to save every traitor.
07:23One day, when he was released, he came and told me like a gentleman that I am going to write
07:29your name.
07:29It wasn't a surprise. It wasn't a shock.
07:31Like, Kullu's writing my name.
07:33He came, he warned me that I'm doing this.
07:35But I will convince others that I don't do it.
07:37But I am doing it.
07:39You know, so I really respect all of their journey.
07:42It's not that there was no bad traitor.
07:43Hanman, I don't think, got a fair chance to be a traitor.
07:47But the rest played amazingly.
07:50Shehneel, there was no doubt about it.
07:52There was no doubt about it.
07:53The man took the bad karma and took my name on it.
07:57But I think there was no doubt about it.
07:59I loved my co-traitors.
08:01All of them.
08:01And from Harman, Kullu, Rida, Shehneel, everyone.
08:05I think I had the best co-traitors.
08:08Okay, so if you have to name one, who would you say was your favorite co-traitor?
08:13Like someone you had the most fun?
08:15The most fun I had with Kullu.
08:18Because he was a lot of jokes.
08:20And I thought it was like, we were all in secret tower.
08:23We were all in secret tower.
08:25That is how I caught him.
08:27One of my points was that there is a comedian who is a traitor.
08:30Yeah, yeah, yeah.
08:32And he was fun.
08:33It was very logical.
08:34Yes, I know that he tried to backstab me two or three times.
08:37He said that Crystal is not our friend.
08:39He can write his name.
08:41But it's all in the game.
08:42It's all part and parcel.
08:44And now that I look back and I didn't get out.
08:47And he got out.
08:47So it's all in good spirit.
08:53So now you have already done a reality show and you had a great experience.
08:59And this time I would like to say that the traitors won.
09:03Like last time, unlike last time you, this time the traitors won.
09:05So how does that feel?
09:07This time you can, you registered a win for the traitors.
09:11Right now I feel like I'm one and done.
09:13I don't think reality is something I've ever wanted to do before or think of doing further.
09:20But traitors is a show that when the season one came out also and globally I used to watch traitors.
09:24It's a game show that I absolutely loved.
09:26And that's why I said that because I really like to play this game.
09:31I also play traitors and mafia with my friends and I really enjoy it.
09:36So yes, this is my first reality show.
09:39I won and I think, you know, leaving on a high note is a good option always.
09:45There are no future plans.
09:47Like for the foreseeable plan, no future plans.
09:50And for you, Riddha?
09:51No, it's not until now.
09:52If there is a game show in which you have to use your brain, you know, you have to do
09:59all of these things, game point of view, board games or something like that, I can do it.
10:04But roti, roti and all of this to play on is just not my style.
10:10What about you?
10:11Would you like to continue experience with reality shows?
10:14I said, I said no to them first because I was like, I'm not a reality TV show material.
10:19And I think this has just confirmed that I'm not a reality TV show material.
10:23I absolutely did use my brain.
10:25I'm a smart woman.
10:26I would like to use my smartness in something else, maybe not in a show.
10:30Because at the end, it really did emotionally drain me.
10:33It was too exhausting.
10:35And I kind of lost my spark.
10:37I don't think it has come back yet again.
10:39So I don't want to, and it was just 14 days, so I was exhausted.
10:44So I don't want to.
10:45After today's episode, your spark will be back.
10:47My winner.
10:48Hope so.
10:49Hope so.
10:50I don't know.
10:50But then as, again, as I said, I don't want to put myself in a position where there are thousands
10:55of cameras and I'm constantly thinking, what is my next move?
10:57I have to constantly keep justifying that what is happening.
11:00It's my turn.
11:01As she said, I would also love to leave it on a high note and never come back to the
11:05space ever again.
11:08Okay, thank you so much, both of you, for your time.
11:10Thank you so much, both of you, for your time.