00:00Good evening, welcome to a new episode of your show, Showsayer.
00:07Today is Wednesday, September 9th, 2026, 9 slash 9 slash 2026, and today is the 27th
00:20of Rabi Al-Awwal.
00:21Please watch this episode until the end.
00:24We all just did an episode a little while ago about the fire outbreak.
00:29Welcome.
00:31Lainah.
00:35In Iraq, specifically this grave in the Sayyid al-Lawi Cemetery in Church of Governorate,
00:42Iraq.
00:44We made a quick episode this morning, and I told you that we'll dive a bit deeper to understand
00:51what's happening in Iraq, and what is the reason for the fire breaking out inside this
00:56grave.
00:57We want to talk in a scientific manner.
01:00Mention what people said and what the Iraqi police said.
01:04And in my own analysis, leaving the judgment up to you, I hope our people in Iraq or wherever
01:11you are, we try to share this episode with as many people as possible.
01:18of the people you care about.
01:20We saw, let me remind you of the fires that erupted inside one, or inside the Sayyid al-Lawi Cemetery
01:26in Kirkuk, Kirkuk.
01:29You start seeing it again.
01:31I will show you this clip, and then it came.
01:37The fire went out.
01:40Let's be clear and focus on the matter of the fire.
01:44It stayed burning.
01:46It remained burning from 4.30 p.m. for the afternoon of yesterday, Tuesday, burning for
01:536, 7, 8, 9 hours.
01:57This is very important when analyzing any issue, the duration of the blade.
02:02It kept burning until the civil defense came with massive amounts of water, and we showed
02:07pictures in the last episode, and managed to put it out.
02:12After the fire was put out, they opened the grave again, which I will show you.
02:21In this video, when they opened the grave again and found burnt coal under the soil of the grave,
02:29they also found burnt coal under the soil of the grave, as you can see right now on your
02:35screen.
02:36Anyway, I was showing these videos documenting what happened so we could understand what
02:40took place.
02:44The police came and said that the fire was due to burning garbage and debris at the location.
02:53That's what the police said, burning trash and rubble at the site.
02:58With all due respect to the police, and with all due respect to, while the presence of the
03:05police is necessary is necessary, it is not their job to determine the cause.
03:10And I can't just show up and immediately determine the cause, guys.
03:13That's the scientist's job.
03:15Not for me to just show up and call it a day.
03:18Civil defense put out the fire.
03:20With all due respect, the police are the ones authorized to issue statements as the competent
03:24authority.
03:25That should only happen after consulting scientists.
03:28Bring in scientists.
03:30Let them investigate the matter properly, and then make a statement.
03:34But making statements without evidence, without bringing in geologists to find out what's going
03:39on, no.
03:42Okay, the police have the right to set up a security perimeter and not let people watch
03:47the situation.
03:48But at the same time, it makes me say, the matter is understudied.
03:53Bring in scientists to judge this matter.
03:55Why bring in scientists?
03:59Well, they say it was a trash fire and debris at the site.
04:03Could that be true?
04:04Maybe.
04:05But fires don't last more than two hours, folks.
04:12My point here is about the time.
04:15Since there is something feeding the fire for seven or eight hours, it means it's not
04:21debris.
04:27They said a bit of debris.
04:28A bit of debris would be gone in a quarter of an hour, folks.
04:31Or at most in an hour, it would die down.
04:34For example, well, what am I supposed to do as the Iraqi authorities, as the police in
04:40Turkmen?
04:40Seek help.
04:41Seek help from scientists.
04:43Bring in scientists, because the matter could be dangerous.
04:46Don't just dismiss it like that.
04:48With all due respect, this is a matter for scientists, a matter for specialized scientific
04:53bodies in Iraq who should come and conduct a study as to why.
04:57People, I mean, even the Iraqi media reported it.
04:59They said it couldn't possibly have been debris.
05:02Debris?
05:02They said, brother, we have been here since 4.30, and it stayed until 9 or 10, or maybe
05:0810, 10 in the evening, burning until the civil defense came and put it out against our
05:12will.
05:12They said that before the civil defense arrived, we poured the water on it, and it wouldn't
05:16go out.
05:17We threw gravel on it, and it wouldn't go out.
05:18We threw wood on it, and it wouldn't go out.
05:20We buried it under everything, but the fire just wouldn't die down.
05:24It just stayed ablaze, consuming everything in its path.
05:29What's even more dangerous than this?
05:31According to the statements I've heard from Iraqi media, meaning the Iraqi media,
05:37the work was from eyewitnesses who were there and confirmed that the fire pit was two meters
05:43deep, with flames burning two meters underground.
05:48Uh-huh, finding a blessing and light when she made that statement, and I consider it a destructive
05:54statement by the Iraqi police, that it's not a matter of rubble.
06:02According to the Iraqi media itself, this is the case.
06:06I'm not making this up.
06:07Citing eyewitnesses, Iraqi media interviewed people who said the fire was two meters deep
06:12even before civil defense arrived.
06:14They said they threw five cherry cans on it, meaning five large buckets of water and wood,
06:20trying to put it out.
06:21They tried extinguishing it with gravel and dirt, but the fire wouldn't go out.
06:27Yeah.
06:33What does this mean, Doctor?
06:35It means I have to study what the source of the fire is.
06:38What is this fire burning?
06:43Well, what's going on here?
06:46Of course, you as police, as a specialist, like a specialist, you want a definitive answer.
06:54You're saying debris, the fire wasn't put out.
06:58Dig again in the same place.
06:59After I put out every bit of it and tossed the match.
07:02If the fire caught again, I tossed another match, let me move back.
07:09Some people say and insist that this matter has a religious significance.
07:13That the grave can either be one of the pits of hell or a garden from the gardens of paradise.
07:19Okay.
07:19And a lot of people in Iraq are saying this.
07:21These aren't my words, right?
07:24I want a definitive answer, brother.
07:26I want to despair all doubt with certainty.
07:29The fire hasn't gone out.
07:32Dig in the same spot before you strike it.
07:36Dig in the same spot, bring a match and throw it.
07:40If the fire lights up in the same spot, then there is something there.
07:48First, well, what?
07:49There are two possibilities and I will connect each possibility to evidence.
07:53I'm not there myself.
07:55I wish I were there.
07:57However, it is best that you consult geologists immediately, guys.
08:01Don't approach the matter like this.
08:03Especially in Kirkuk and Iraq.
08:09Kirkuk is known to be one of the richest regions in Iraq in oil and natural gas.
08:17So it could indeed be a leak of methane gas, which is natural gas from cracks in the ground.
08:27And the fire ignited either by an external trigger.
08:31The fire could have ignited if someone threw a match or a cigarette butt.
08:35Someone was smoking and tossed a cigarette butt.
08:37And the fire ignited because methane gas only needs a spark to catch fire.
08:45Can methane gas ignite without a heat source?
08:51Yes, sometimes friction from rocks that might spark a fire because methane gas is leaking and it takes rock friction
09:02to spark a fire.
09:03But where would that rock friction come from?
09:06Aha!
09:07That brings us to the other possibility.
09:09So the first possibility is a methane leak and the region is rich in natural gas.
09:14So someone might have tossed a cigarette butt starting the fire.
09:18The second possibility is also methane gas.
09:21But without anyone throwing anything.
09:24A match ignited on its own due to rock friction.
09:28What caused that rock friction?
09:31Minor tremors could have caused friction sparking these fires.
09:39And igniting the methane gas.
09:42What supports this theory?
09:44The people who were there, what did they see and what did you hear them saying?
09:50Fire has no smell.
09:52That's why I explained and told you, this is a scientist's job, not a police officer's, with all due respect.
10:03The people who were there confirmed it, they told you, brother, that the fire had no smell and no smoke,
10:10not a single scent and no smoke coming out of it.
10:14And they told you the gravel turned into burning embers, meaning the fire was just burning without a smell.
10:21Even the gravel turned into embers.
10:26An earthquake.
10:27So it's possible that the tremors that occurred and were witnessed in Kirkuk, which I've talked about a lot, mind
10:33you,
10:34are what caused this friction and ignited the fires.
10:36The more dangerous possibility is that usually before strong and destructive earthquakes, we have warning signs.
10:44The most important indicator is that the earth begins to show an increase in methane gas levels.
10:51Before a major earthquake, before strong earthquakes, methane gas leakage occurs.
10:57The first stage involves radon gas leakage, helium leakage, and carbon dioxide leakage.
11:06Radon doesn't ignite.
11:08It's non-flammable.
11:09If you try to set it on fire, it won't ignite.
11:12What is flammable, odorless and smokeless, is methane gas.
11:16It's physical properties.
11:17Tell me that.
11:21So now we need geologists.
11:23Radon gas is an inert and radioactive gas, meaning it is non-flammable, unlike methane.
11:30Oh, please, our folks in Iraq.
11:33The matter might be dangerous, or it might be normal, but it's a matter that requires geologists.
11:39They should come and measure the levels of methane and radon gas in the area.
11:45Even if we say that the matter has no religious connection or aspect, measure it directly, without delay.
11:55They should come with equipment to measure the levels of methane gas and radon gas in the area.
12:05Along with methane and radon, it also measures helium and carbon dioxide.
12:12If all four of these or one of them are present together, you might be facing a very powerful earthquake,
12:20guys.
12:20It could be an indicator of an earthquake.
12:24And sometimes, some of the minor tremors that occur create fine cracks and fissures in the soil, releasing, as it
12:34seems, methane gas and radon gas.
12:36This actually happened in Kako recently, where these tremors really caused some ground fissures, releasing methane gas.
12:45Did we resolve the matter this way and settle it once and for all, dispelling any doubts whether the reason
12:51is religious or not?
12:53I thank you for your trust in this channel and those who reached out to me saying,
12:57Please, we want your analysis. We have analyzed the matter, so please share this video as much as you can.
13:02Share it with all Iraqis, and even non-Iraqis, so we can understand and make this episode beneficial for everyone.
13:09I'm Am Salgarhan Ali, and we are presenting the show, Shok Sayer, with Lukaim.