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00:31Good afternoon and welcome to the Gangnam Studio.
00:33Early July and it's fast approaching the time when the schools will break up and when teenagers have to make
00:40all those difficult decisions, whether they go on to university or college, maybe take up an apprenticeship, get a job
00:46or just clear off and take a gap year, which of course seems to be the favourite these days.
00:51And why not? It's all about learning on your own, struggling halfway across the continent with a rucksack on your
00:57back. Not a bad thing to do.
00:58When I was a kid, did I have a, especially when we were young, you know, boys all want to
01:03be train drivers or jet pilots, but later, did I have a vocation when I left school?
01:10To be honest with you, not. But you know something, I'm still wondering what I can do. I'm still looking
01:15for a job, really.
01:16Yeah, look, I can't see the day where you'll ever retire.
01:20Um, I don't know. I think, I think I will retire, actually.
01:24Really? Yeah.
01:25I think you'll be one of those people that says they retire.
01:26About 20 minutes time, I reckon.
01:28What about you?
01:29Well, please wait, at least 45.
01:31Yeah, exactly. Tell me this. What profession did you think you'd go into when you left school, just as you
01:36were about to go to college?
01:37Um, well, before that, I wanted to be an architect when I was growing up.
01:41And why?
01:42Because I thought it combined maths and design, which are the two things that I quite liked, and science and
01:47that kind of thing.
01:48A bit of a combination, but I did an internship and it turned out it was more chucking things down
01:53drains and seeing where the drains led to, which wasn't my kind of thing.
01:57But I think it probably still would have been quite fun if you'd have done this. Is it seven or
02:01eight years training? I think it's even longer to be an architect than a doctor.
02:04There we are. Now then, Rachel, we have this Judy Burstford back with us. And I was explaining to her
02:11competitors today that she's an extremely dangerous woman.
02:14Right.
02:15That's three out of four, I think, crucial conundrums.
02:18Crucial conundrums, absolutely.
02:20Amazing.
02:21Yep.
02:21Anyway, Judy, welcome back.
02:23Four good wins under your belt. Halfway to an Octo Championship, if I can put it that way. So good
02:28luck to you today.
02:30But Ken Bainbridge from Spalding in Lincolnshire is here to spoil your fun.
02:35Okay.
02:35And let's see how he gets on. Enjoys watching most sports. Am I right, Ken?
02:39Yes, all sports, all sports.
02:41And bowls is what you, you play bowls?
02:44Yeah, I've done for about 40 years.
02:46Yeah, you good?
02:48No, yeah. At one time I used to be.
02:51Yeah.
02:51I used to be, yeah.
02:52Excellent.
02:53That's blowing my own trumpet, but I did used to be, yeah.
02:55Oh, that's all right. We don't mind that here at all.
02:58Let's have a big round of applause for Ken and Judy.
03:06And, of course, over the corner, our pillar of Countdown for many years, and the joy to have us with
03:12us in the studio,
03:13Susie Dent, joined once again by the wonderful Helen Fospero, journalist and TV presenter, radio presenter, and general good sport.
03:22Girl from Grimsby.
03:24Girl from Grimsby. There we go.
03:26Now then, Judy, take us away on our letters game.
03:29Consonant, please, Rachel.
03:30Thank you, Judy. Start today with L.
03:33And another.
03:35P.
03:36And another one.
03:38N.
03:39And a vowel.
03:41O.
03:42And another.
03:43E.
03:44And another.
03:46A.
03:47A.
03:48Consonants, please.
03:49M.
03:51Another consonant.
03:53G.
03:55And a vowel.
03:56And the last one.
03:57O.
03:58And here's the Countdown Clock.
04:00We're going to be right back.
04:31Yes, Judy six a six ten just a five and your five can alone
04:37All alone Judy mangle
04:40mangle
04:42Now what do we go in the corner Helen couple of fives maple and mango as opposed to mangle?
04:48Yes, we could have a seven couldn't you we've got lampoon yes, and lampooning is sort of making fun of
04:53Making fun. Yes, it goes back to French drinking songs and satirical drinking songs
04:59And a friend I think the French test was lump on let us drink
05:02And they used to take the Mickey out of people when they tasted them. Thank you very much
05:07All right, what should we do? Let's let's turn to you Ken for a letters game. I'll start with a
05:12consonant, please
05:13Thank you Ken ah, thank you Rachel and another one
05:17P and a vowel I
05:20a consonant
05:22J
05:24another one
05:26G vowel
05:27you
05:28a consonant
05:29P
05:32a vowel
05:34a
05:36and another
05:38consonant, please and the last one D
05:41Stand by
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11:21Judy.
11:22Five.
11:23And Ken.
11:23Nothing, I'm afraid.
11:25No.
11:25Over to Judy.
11:27Drive.
11:28Drive.
11:29And in the corner, Helen.
11:31A couple of fives wired and moved, and a couple of sixes devour and wormed.
11:37Susie, anything else?
11:38No, nothing but sixes.
11:39Not very nice these rounds, are they?
11:41No.
11:41All right, wormed.
11:4326, 15, and Ken.
11:45Now, here's your numbers game.
11:47We have one large and five small, please, Rachel.
11:50You can, indeed.
11:50Thank you, Ken.
11:51One from the top row, and five little ones.
11:54And for this round, the little ones are eight, one, four.
11:59Another eight, and six.
12:01And the large one, 25.
12:02And the target, 666.
12:06666.
12:06666.
12:10366.
12:12566.
12:13666.
12:25766.
12:33666.
12:38Yes, Ken?
12:406, 6, 5.
12:41One away.
12:42Judy?
12:436, 6, 5.
12:44Both of you.
12:45So, Ken?
12:456, 4's are 24.
12:476, 4's 24.
12:4825 times 25.
12:49Times 25 is 600.
12:528, 8's.
12:538, 8's is 64.
12:55Plus the 1.
12:56Plus the 1.
12:57Plus the 1.
12:586, 6, 5.
12:59Lovely.
13:00And Judy?
13:0125 times 4.
13:0225 times 4, 100.
13:05Multiply by 6.
13:06Are we going the same way?
13:08Yep.
13:09600.
13:10Yep.
13:118, 8's is 64.
13:12Yep.
13:13Plus 1.
13:14Yep, same result.
13:15Lovely.
13:15There we go.
13:16But to get the mark of the beast in its entirety, how do we achieve that?
13:20If you say 25 minus 8 is 17, times by 4 is 68, add 6 for 74, and then the
13:30other 8, add 1,
13:31is 9, and times them together, 6, 6, 6.
13:34Well done.
13:35Thank you, Rachel.
13:38Marvellous stuff.
13:40And now we turn to Helen.
13:42Helen, I mean, you get involved in all sorts of things, but some of them, of course, are
13:46deeply personal to you.
13:47You use your, you know, high profile to do some good work.
13:52Tell us about that.
13:53I do do a lot of charity work, but I try hard not to spread myself too thin, because I
13:58think
13:58if you do charity work, it's important to try and be hands-on.
14:02So I'm an ambassador for Barnardo's, and I'm a supporter of our local hospice in Grimsby
14:07for children.
14:08But I did help found a spinal injuries charity 10 years ago, when a friend of mine's 19-year-old
14:15son was paralysed on his gap year.
14:16And obviously the whole family were absolutely heartbroken, and his father, David Nichols,
14:22decided that he had to try and do something, to try and find a cure for some forms of spinal
14:28injury.
14:30And so he got a group of friends together, including myself, and we sat around a table
14:34and decided we needed to start raising a lot of money for research, because spinal injury
14:39research is woefully underfunded.
14:41And we realized after two or three years that we were quite good at raising money, but we
14:45didn't really know what to do with it, and we'd raised a substantial amount.
14:49And then we came across an amazing professor called Geoffrey Raisman, who was effectively
14:54working, well, from what looked like a broom cupboard in a central London hospital.
14:58He didn't have a secretary, so he was bogged down with paperwork, that's the first thing
15:01we did, funded the secretary, got him back into the laboratory.
15:06And maverick professor, really, he was thrown out of Oxford for discovering plasticity, and
15:10actually accepted into Cambridge for discovering plasticity.
15:13So, amazing chap, and, you know, he'd been a bit downbeat about whether we'd ever get
15:17there with any form of cure for some forms of this injury.
15:21And I'm delighted to say that earlier this year, our little charity, NSIF, was the subject
15:26of a panorama world-exclusive.
15:29And thanks to Geoffrey's research and some amazing work that's gone on in Poland, they've
15:34got a stabbing victim who was flatlined, so didn't move for 15 months, walking again.
15:41And it's all using olfactory cells from the patient's own nose.
15:46So it's been incredible.
15:48And, you know, backing professors, it's like backing a horse on the derby.
15:51You don't really know whether you're actually going to get anywhere.
15:53So 10 years on, you know, a father of a teenager who was paralysed has made the world of difference.
16:00And for Dan, who's in a wheelchair, it's given him an awful lot of hope.
16:04So that takes up an awful lot of time.
16:06And just spell out the name of that charity again.
16:09It's NSIF.
16:11So it's the Nichols Spinal Injury Foundation.
16:13Fantastic.
16:14What a good thing to do.
16:15Big round of applause.
16:15Come on, let's support it.
16:20Well done, Helen.
16:22Well done.
16:23So 33 plays Cairns 22.
16:26So, Judy, your letters go.
16:28I'll have a consonant, please.
16:31Thank you, Judy.
16:32S.
16:33And another.
16:36B.
16:37Another one, please.
16:39N.
16:40Vowel.
16:42I.
16:43Another.
16:44U.
16:45And another.
16:47O.
16:49Um, consonant.
16:52S.
16:54A vowel.
16:56A.
16:58And a consonant.
17:02And the last one, M.
17:04Countdown.
17:07M800, M800, M800, M800, M800, M800, M800, M800, M800, M800, M800, M800, M800, M800, M800.
17:09Yeah.
17:35A Ã s- humanitarian.
17:36Judy?
17:37Six.
17:38A six.
17:39Yes, Ken?
17:40I'll try a six.
17:42Judy?
17:43Bosons.
17:44Bosons.
17:45Ken?
17:46Unbiased.
17:48It's not there.
17:49I'm afraid you'd have unbiased, but not unbiased.
17:53That's bad luck.
17:54That is bad luck, actually.
17:56Good shot, though.
17:57Now, Helen?
17:58We've managed a couple of sevens.
18:00Biomass.
18:01Yes.
18:02And Omnibus.
18:03And the Clapham Omnibus, the famous Clapham Omnibus.
18:07That's it, Susie?
18:08That's it, yes.
18:09All right, well done.
18:09And it's 39 plays, 22, Ken.
18:12Now, it's your letters game.
18:13Consonant, please.
18:14Thank you, Ken.
18:16T.
18:16And another.
18:19F.
18:19And another.
18:22N.
18:22A vowel, please.
18:24O.
18:25And another.
18:26E.
18:27A consonant.
18:29P.
18:30V.
18:31Vowel.
18:32I.
18:33The consonant.
18:35V.
18:36And another consonant, please.
18:39And lastly, N.
18:41Stand by.
18:42And another one is for that.
19:09To the woman's powers.
19:10Which is known as a one.
19:11The processor.
19:11For a
19:12dimension to the
19:13Ken. I will try a seven. A seven and Judy? I've got a seven but I haven't written it down.
19:19So tell us about it. Invent. Yes. Ken. Endpoint. E-N-P-O-I-N-T.
19:29I know exactly what you mean which is en pointe which in ballet is on the tip of your toes
19:34but that is two words unfortunately and it needs an E at the end. I'm sorry about that. Invent. I'm
19:41afraid of six rather than seven Judy. So very meanly I have to say no to both.
19:46OK. So there we are. That's a standstill there but Helen. Helen and Susie. Only invent. Well for me only
19:54invent. Well you can have one on its own at the tip of your toes and in tone is another
19:58six.
19:59In tone. 39 to 22 again and now it's Judy's numbers game. Judy? One large and five small. Your usual.
20:07Thank you Judy. One large, five little ones and this time around the little ones are two, two, five, eight
20:14and four.
20:16One more and the big one, 75. And this time the target, 357.
20:20Three, five, seven.
20:53Judy?
20:54No, I can't work out how I've written it down.
20:57Bad luck. Now then Ken.
20:59I would try 357.
21:01Yes.
21:02Five times 75.
21:03Five times 75 is 375.
21:06Two eighths and 16.
21:08They are.
21:08Plus two.
21:09Plus the other two is 18.
21:12Take them away.
21:12Perfect.
21:13Three, five, seven.
21:14Well done.
21:15Well done Ken.
21:18Takes you up to the seven points of Judy's score.
21:22So let's pause and have a tea time teaser which is drone can.
21:27And the clue a drone can be taken down by this.
21:30A drone can be taken down by this.
21:47Welcome back.
21:47I left you with the clue a drone can be taken down by this.
21:51And the answer is ordnance, which I guess is the sort of stuff that you fire out of guns,
21:57isn't it?
21:58It is, yes.
21:59Munitions or artillery.
22:01It's a form of ordnance, which in turn comes from the Latin meaning to put in order.
22:06It's where we get ordain, ordinary.
22:08Oh, is that where it comes from?
22:10Yes.
22:11OK.
22:11All right.
22:1239 plays 32.
22:14Now then Ken, we're in the final run-in now.
22:18It's a letters game for you.
22:19Consonant please.
22:20Thank you Ken.
22:21D.
22:22And another.
22:24R.
22:25A vowel.
22:25A.
22:27And another.
22:29E.
22:30A vowel.
22:32O.
22:33Consonant.
22:34C.
22:36Another.
22:37N.
22:39Another consonant.
22:41T.
22:43And a vowel please.
22:45And lastly A.
22:48And here's the countdown clock.
23:18And here's the countdown clock.
23:19Otherbahn.
23:21Yes, Ken. I'll try an eight. An eight. And Judy?
23:25I've only got six.
23:27And your six?
23:29Er, orated.
23:30Yes, now then, Ken. Decanto?
23:34Oh, I think it's going to be decanter only.
23:38It is, I'm afraid, sorry, not having much luck with the dictionary today.
23:42It's decanter, not decanto.
23:43Bad luck.
23:44Sorry.
23:44Have a drink.
23:46Now then, Helen.
23:47A couple of sevens off our sleeves. Redcoat.
23:50Yes.
23:51And drachone.
23:54Now, a drachone, this is something to do with drachone, but what is a drachone? Susie?
23:59Er, it's actually, yes, to do with drachon, the Greek for serpent, and that's because of its shape, because it's
24:04a large, flexible, sausage-shaped container used for transporting oil on water and other liquids.
24:11I knew that, I did.
24:13Isn't that extraordinary? It's got nothing to do with drachone.
24:16It's not related to drachone because that goes back to the name Draco, a man who, he was a legislator,
24:24I think, and he was very mean in his laws, but he too may have been named after a serpent,
24:28you never know.
24:29Yeah.
24:29All right, 45 plays, 32. Judy, letters game.
24:34The continent, please.
24:35Thank you, Judy.
24:36D.
24:37And another.
24:39R.
24:40And another.
24:42T.
24:43Vowel, please.
24:45E.
24:46And again.
24:47I.
24:48And another one.
24:50U.
24:52Consonant.
24:53Z.
24:55Er, consonant.
24:58N.
25:01And a vowel, please.
25:03And the last one.
25:04A.
25:06Stand by.
25:07BELL RINGS
25:37Judy,
25:38Six.
25:39A six.
25:41Yes, Ken.
25:42A seven.
25:43Judy.
25:44Xander.
25:45Now then.
25:46Ken.
25:47Intrude.
25:48Very good.
25:49Yes, very nice.
25:50Intrude.
25:51And what of the corner?
25:53Helen and Susie?
25:54Helen.
25:55We've got a very large, well, I suppose it's not a large eight, is it?
25:58It's eight, but urinated.
26:01Urinated.
26:03Sorry.
26:04No, no, no.
26:05It's a, you know, nature's call.
26:07Well, 45 to 39, I know where we're heading with that Judy Burstford.
26:14But before we get there, Susie, your origins of words.
26:19Well, our viewers might be going off in a minute for a cup of char, which is a word we
26:25don't
26:25use that much anymore, but I'm going to give you the origin of some tea terms.
26:29Back in the 11th century, the word char meant a return or coming around again of a particular
26:35occasion.
26:36It conveyed the idea of motion and a turning movement, and that's why we say a door is
26:42ajar.
26:43We used to say a door was char, so on the turn, in other words, neither open nor closed.
26:49But a char woman or char lady, that also went back to the same idea, because it was somebody
26:55hired by the day to do jobs of household work and odd turns, if you like.
27:00So the whole idea of doing a turn of work and a turn was there, too.
27:05And today, the sense of char survives only in that perhaps not very nice term, char lady,
27:09still.
27:09But it didn't quite go away.
27:11Because if you change one vowel and add another letter, you get chore for a small job or piece
27:15of household work.
27:16That goes all the way back to the sense of char and a turning.
27:20But there are other words as well that go back to char and a different meaning of the
27:24words.
27:24It's actually not tea this time.
27:26And that's the word car, believe it or not, because that, of course, is linked to the
27:30chariot.
27:32And a car for a little while was called a char, C-H-A-R, because of that link with
27:36a chariot
27:36and a wheeled vehicle.
27:38And in fact, it came into English in the 1300s, and it related to carts or wagons harking back
27:43to the chariot.
27:44But that word has also given us career, because a career was once a road along which a chariot
27:50would ride cargo, carriage, carry and charge.
27:55And from the 16th to the 19th centuries, car was used in a very poetic context.
28:01And you'll like this one, Nick, because Alfred Lord Tennyson used it to describe the funeral
28:05carriage that bore the body or bared the body of the Duke of Wellington at his state funeral.
28:10It's one of the sort of first senses in our modern use of car.
28:14This is, and irreverent people behold the towering car, the sable steeds, which is a beautiful
28:19line.
28:19And the first self-propelled road vehicle was built in 1769.
28:23Of course, that was the predecessor of our modern car.
28:26So, believe it or not, the modern car and the word char are very much linked.
28:36Thank you, Susie.
28:38Now then, Ken, final letters came for you.
28:40A vowel, please.
28:41Thank you, Ken.
28:43E.
28:43Another.
28:45U.
28:46A consonant, please.
28:48D.
28:49And another.
28:51B.
28:52A vowel.
28:54O.
28:55A vowel.
28:57E.
28:58Consonant.
28:59R.
29:00Another consonant.
29:01D.
29:04Err.
29:05And another consonant, please.
29:07And the last one, R.
29:08Stand by.
29:09B.
29:11T.
29:12T.
29:12T.
29:12T.
29:13T.
29:13T.
29:15T.
29:16T.
29:39Well, Ken.
29:40Six.
29:41Judy.
29:42Eight.
29:43An eight.
29:44And Ken's?
29:44Border.
29:45Border and?
29:46Border.
29:48And bordered.
29:49Oh, I bet Ken's cross.
29:50What have we got in the corner, I wonder?
29:52Bordered was ours as well.
29:54Yes.
29:54That was the best.
29:55That's it?
29:55Yep.
29:56All right.
29:56Well done.
29:57So, 53 to 39.
29:59Final letters game.
30:01Judy Burstford.
30:02Continent, please.
30:03Thank you, Judy.
30:04S.
30:05And another one?
30:07T.
30:08And another.
30:10Y.
30:11Vowel, please.
30:13U.
30:14Another.
30:15A.
30:16And again.
30:17E.
30:19Er, consonant.
30:22L.
30:23And another.
30:25S.
30:26And another.
30:29And the last one.
30:30H.
30:31Stand by.
30:33out.
30:34The next one.
30:34Absolutely.
31:00LONDER
31:00The next one.
31:01Bye b.
31:02judy seven a seven ten seven judy hatless hatless can stealthy oh good word stealthy um oh you'd
31:16need to tease for stealthy can sorry no sorry yes no problem good word nonetheless now helen
31:24we also had hatchless for seven and salutes and salutes also seven very good all right 60 to 39
31:32final numbers game one large and five small please thank you kim one large five small for the final
31:40one of the day and these numbers are seven six three one eight and the big one 25 and the
31:51target
31:52four hundred and sixty four six zero
32:26ken no i'm sorry i've missed it i've lost it four five nine four five nine from judy four five
32:33nine
32:33so judy six three is 18 six three is 18 multiplied by 25 multiplied by 25 450
32:42uh plus eight plus one one away four five nine well done not bad at all but can we do
32:48better
32:49rachel we can if you say six 25s are 150 add one one five one times that by three four
32:58five three and
33:00add the seven for four sixty well done thank you rachel
33:06very good indeed so 67 plays uh ken's 39 as we go into the final round so fingers on buzzers
33:15please
33:16it's for today's countdown conundrum let's reveal it now
33:23my word ken that was fast yes vestibule vestibule
33:30fantastic
33:36i don't think they come any faster ken that was remarkable
33:40fantastic 49 points but judy takes today into her fifth uh win well done 67
33:47thank you tremendous performance so ken i mean that was some conundrum we did there that was
33:53brilliant you take this back to uh spaulding in lincolnshire at the bells club and thank you very
33:58much for coming thank you for having me and we shall see you on monday because we're off uh racing
34:03uh for the rest of the week so we'll see you on monday okay thank you brilliant stuff we shall
34:07see
34:07you both on monday helen and susie look forward to it well rachel yep well don't retire between now
34:14monday because we want you back i'm off now actually no i may hold off um monday monday same time
34:23same
34:23place you'll be sure of it a very good afternoon
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