🎙️ We know we are in a crisis. We know something needs to change. So how do we actually turn ideas into real action?
Welcome to Season 5 of Tangelic Talks. This season, we are moving past the headlines to focus entirely on building systems, financing solutions, and empowering people.
To help guide these conversations, returning host Victoria Cornelio welcomes our new co-host, TJ Omujomolo. TJ brings a wealth of experience running AfriBond, focusing on African investments, and working across the energy and gas sectors.
In This Episode, We Explore:
🌍 What "implementing and innovating" actually means for the global ecosystem
🤝 Why transparent innovation is required so the "little guy" isn't left behind
🏗️ Balancing real estate community improvement with the need for profit
☀️ Why installing solar across Africa is hindered by raw material control and expensive logistics
🚀 Tangelic’s own Sunrise Spectrum Initiative entering its deployment phase
🔹 About This Episode: The Season 5 premiere outlines our core theme of implementing and innovating, shifting the focus from climate theory to on-the-ground execution.
💬 Join the Conversation: What does it take to turn climate ambition into action? Drop your thoughts below 👇
🌱 Support the Mission: Find guest resources and extended content at TangelicLife.org/TangelicTalks.
🔖 #TangelicTalks #ClimateAction #EnergyTransition #ClimateFinance #JustTransition #AfricanInvestment #SustainableInvestment #ClimateTech
Tags: Tangelic Talks Season 5, climate action implementation, energy transition, TJ Omujomolo, African investment, just transition, climate finance, solar energy logistics, green real estate
Welcome to Season 5 of Tangelic Talks. This season, we are moving past the headlines to focus entirely on building systems, financing solutions, and empowering people.
To help guide these conversations, returning host Victoria Cornelio welcomes our new co-host, TJ Omujomolo. TJ brings a wealth of experience running AfriBond, focusing on African investments, and working across the energy and gas sectors.
In This Episode, We Explore:
🌍 What "implementing and innovating" actually means for the global ecosystem
🤝 Why transparent innovation is required so the "little guy" isn't left behind
🏗️ Balancing real estate community improvement with the need for profit
☀️ Why installing solar across Africa is hindered by raw material control and expensive logistics
🚀 Tangelic’s own Sunrise Spectrum Initiative entering its deployment phase
🔹 About This Episode: The Season 5 premiere outlines our core theme of implementing and innovating, shifting the focus from climate theory to on-the-ground execution.
💬 Join the Conversation: What does it take to turn climate ambition into action? Drop your thoughts below 👇
🌱 Support the Mission: Find guest resources and extended content at TangelicLife.org/TangelicTalks.
🔖 #TangelicTalks #ClimateAction #EnergyTransition #ClimateFinance #JustTransition #AfricanInvestment #SustainableInvestment #ClimateTech
Tags: Tangelic Talks Season 5, climate action implementation, energy transition, TJ Omujomolo, African investment, just transition, climate finance, solar energy logistics, green real estate
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00:00our core theme this season is implementing and innovating it's going to be a very varied season
00:04because we're kind of picking from everywhere to try to bring it together yeah no transparency is
00:10key right it's um it's that's like you said bringing people together welcome to season five
00:17guys we've done it we've got a new co-host called tj
00:20welcome to tangelic talks your go-to podcast from tangelic where we dive into the vibrant world
00:36of clean energy development sustainability and climate change in africa we bring you inspiring
00:41stories insightful discussions and groundbreaking innovations from the continent making waves in
00:47the global community tune in and join the conversation toward a brighter greener future
00:52let's get started
00:56beyond the headlines of energy infrastructure and climate lie the real stories welcome to
01:01tangelic talks we find out who's building our future who's funding it what actually works and
01:06exactly what happens after welcome to season five guys we've done it we've got a new co-host called
01:12tj hi tj welcome to tangelic talks hi everyone and hi victoria how's it going yeah really good
01:18you guys will get to know tj a little bit in this episode and throughout the season but before that
01:23i
01:23just want to give you a bit of an overview of what we're looking at five seasons is quite a
01:28lot to be
01:28fair but one of the things we haven't tackled head-on in past seasons is action and we no longer
01:36just know that we're in crisis and that something needs to change in this season we're focused on
01:41building those systems financing those solutions empowering people how does climate action
01:47solutions ideas turn into real change so our core theme this season is implementing and innovating
01:54and a lot of the guests that we're talking to are people that can help us understand how we shape
02:00a
02:01cleaner and more equitable future that's why i've got tj with me because tj's background is really
02:06going to help on this one so tj do you want to tell people who you are no i will
02:10try i will try
02:10no very very happy to be um you know your your partner hosts so just to explain myself my name
02:18is tj omujamala uh i run a business called afri bond where we focus on connecting people to african
02:24investment opportunities um but i've done all sorts of roles in my career so far my early career so
02:31i've worked in energy in the past i've worked for power stations i've worked in gas and on the
02:37commercial side too um so when we talked about sustainability i found that quite interesting
02:43because there's so many different facets and ways that you can take routes towards it yeah as well
02:49as that i've focused on investment um in terms of investment relations connecting investors to funds
02:54and to business opportunities too as well as that tilt towards africa which we're focusing on
03:00with afri bond so uh when victoria and the team at angelics basically said look there's some
03:06interesting people to speak to across all sorts and i'm sure we'll get into it real estate
03:11across the consultancy work sustainability and more just that micro stage towards the people that
03:18some of these consultants are helping i thought why not it could be interesting and there'll definitely be a
03:23lot for me and the audience alone yeah definitely and i think we've already started learning um before
03:30we get into that i mean from your background and the insights that you have what would you say
03:35it means when we're saying implementing and innovating what does that actually mean
03:40yeah for me it's um improving and making a greater change so i always say that people especially in the
03:48world that we live in and you'll you're likely to hear in the podcast that we do in the interviews
03:54they talk about ai and the change that people are unusually scared they're scared to change and
04:00they're scared with some of the effects that technology can have in the 1900s with the um the increase in
04:09terms of cars being used we saw it even earlier with the industrial revolution and now i do think it's
04:15important to look about how changes are arising and some of the impacts we'll make positively but also
04:20negative too so for me when it comes to that kind of innovation and that impact it's about making
04:28sure that we're making a change but a positive change towards society but also the goods and services
04:34that we're producing um across the world um so yeah that's that's the main aim and we'll aim to talk
04:41some of the best yeah definitely and i think i've said on this podcast before but one of the reasons
04:47we call it the just transition and moving into you know a cleaner world isn't overnight is because
04:53you have to bring people along you can't just implement something and not teach people how to use
04:58that thing that you've implemented but you also can't innovate without explaining the point of the
05:03innovation um and taking into account context of where that's happening and the people that are
05:07going to be affected by it and even if the goal you know you can't just say trust me where
05:12i want
05:12this one yeah no transparency is key right it's um it's it's like i said bringing people together
05:19where i think in the past there's been a lot of times where we've had these amazing innovations but
05:25a lot of the time the little guy or the person that doesn't always understand it is left behind
05:31yeah um so there's there's got so many different guests that we're in the house or if it's in real
05:36estate where they talk about one of the big things that i hope we get into quite a bit is
05:41building an
05:42ecosystem where everyone benefits and there's going to be a few different guests that are going to be
05:47focusing on building ecosystems and improving as a whole and so yeah very interested in learning how
05:53they do that definitely and i think one of the things when we say ecosystem that i really want to
05:59bring down to earth is that
06:01things don't function in silos so a lot of times in sustainability in this space um you can either
06:07get really technical or very social and not bridge that gap between all the things we're talking about
06:13you know like when we explore finance infrastructure technology business models all the systems behind the
06:20transition it always goes back to people and when that's the focus you can always bring back all these
06:26topics instead of talking about them in these silos which is where you start losing that implementation
06:32and innovation thing that you want to do right yeah no no you're right you're right so and with it
06:40look i
06:41kind of in terms of the pillars of the people that we're speaking to um so far that we're gonna
06:47have
06:48in this season we talk about kind of the accountability and governance with a couple of the guests that we
06:52have
06:53yeah and we're looking into energy there's people that are focused just straight on clean energy
06:58there's others that are focused on that structural change and so when it comes to some of the silos and
07:04just putting people in certain different zones and certain different verticals um there's so many ways that
07:11we can go about it so yeah in terms of the the questions that we could ask yeah that should
07:18be that
07:18should be the thing that's going to resonate with me the most definitely i think it's a it's going to
07:22be
07:22a very varied season because we're kind of picking from everywhere to try to bring it together
07:28is there a question no no no i was going to say that but that's what makes us the season
07:34great
07:34right there's a variety there's um a few different episodes that i think will kind of fit you will you
07:41would expect a route that will that we can go down to definitely like i said one day we'll be
07:46talking
07:46about clean energy the other days we'll be talking maybe about mental health um and i think that's a good
07:52way to get a variety of different audiences to come a variety of different audiences just to
07:57be entertained yeah definitely and i'm hoping the season resonates as every conversation kind of
08:03builds into the ecosystem they're not we're not having separate conversations that you know are
08:08disconnected from each other but within the space that we work in it's so all-encompassing
08:13that you know there's so much that we can talk about and so many people that are willing to
08:18sit down with us for an hour and have those chats definitely definitely so it's great is there a
08:24question or a topic specifically that you're coming into this season wanting to know more about
08:30yeah well i um as a person you know that is focusing on african ecosystems and african investment
08:38uh we're definitely going to have a conversation with someone that focuses on clean energy and solar
08:42energy and batteries in particular so i always love to see the contrast about with nigeria right now
08:51one of the big talking points is oil refineries and gas and we have a person that is really trying
08:59to you know pioneer a lot of the work in terms of clean energy so i'd love to see that
09:04that contrast
09:04between the two and i think it's fascinating to ask as well as just the work that uh this person
09:10is
09:10doing in particular in um yeah across climate change and across nigeria and across just africa
09:15in general yeah also as well as a person that's that's looked into real estate in the in the past
09:22um we're going to be interviewing a couple people that do quite a good work in terms of building
09:28communities building parks building just and improving real estate complexes yeah so a lot of the time
09:36people are have maybe a negative perception when it comes to investors funds coming in taking over
09:42a community um because you know the usual stereotypes is that evil corporations don't really have what's
09:51best for us there so yeah they have that they talk about the community and trying to improve it as
09:57well as improving um in terms of the real estate sector in terms of improving that real estate area
10:03but at the same time still trying to make a profit so i'm definitely going to ask them about how
10:08they
10:09balance that all yeah and yeah so those are probably the two big ones but there's there's
10:13others that i'm just as interested into i swear yeah there's going to be a lot of balancing
10:20this season because i think a lot of the topics could fully swing one way and i'm hoping the audience
10:27notices the balance that is trying to be striked here but if not you know the season four the
10:33season five recap will hopefully help yeah yeah definitely no uh that that will be the big one
10:39where once we've gone through all the different guests and all the different episodes we'll do a
10:44big recap yeah yeah maybe i can i'll leave it to you i'll ask you a few of the questions
10:49but then
10:50i'll um i'll kind of give my conclusions too so that one too and i guess throughout the season
10:57we'll be speaking you know with innovators investors entrepreneurs leaders policymakers
11:02we're talking with people that are working directly in communities as well and one of the
11:07things that has led us to want to do this is because in our own organization tangelic we've
11:14started deployment on our sunrise spectrum initiative which you can read more about
11:18untouchellic life.org but it's been you know a couple years of us getting the ecosystem and the
11:24infrastructure and the systems put together and now we're in deployment we're in that action phase
11:30and that really piqued our interest as a team because we were like right okay we're in that phase now
11:35so we want to know how other people either made it to that phase or starting on that phase
11:39and when you're implementing or you know innovating it's not just you and the person with the idea but
11:45it's all the people around you you know who's going to give you the money to do that who what
11:49policies do you have to influence for things to happen and are there collaborations and partnerships
11:54that you have to do to reach the right communities and the right people so a lot of this comes
12:00to an
12:01extent from our own interest as a as an organization but also we understand that this is how our ecosystem
12:09works and we just want to shed a bit of light into that on all the moving parts around um
12:14an idea
12:15and how you make it actually work and happen yeah yeah and look the in terms of marketing and just
12:21showcasing yourself whether your person with your company if you're looking to grow it's it's key you
12:27have to get yourself out there and it's it's beneficial to tangelic and it's beneficial to the
12:33guests that we have on um of course um i know they're interested in just having a conversation but
12:38they want as well to showcase their opportunity to the world whether it's the consultancy advice that
12:46they give whether it's sustainability or just improve the company in terms of investor readiness
12:51and business readiness whether it's the real estate companies that i talked about before whether it's the
12:57companies that are creating solar panels and solar products all that everyone has some sort of
13:04opportunity that they want to showcase as well as just talking about the the trends that are going
13:09across whether it's africa whether it's in america nice thing is we have guests across the world and
13:15that we're going to be interviewing so um yeah it's important to to do so but it's important
13:21as it talks to help those conversations too definitely and one of the things that i really like about
13:27that we've been doing for these past seasons is we're learning a lot so obviously every solution
13:33won't fit every context there's a lot of things and insights that you learn from talking to people
13:39that are doing similar work to you where you're like oh okay maybe this adapted to within the context
13:44i work in will be helpful and i'm hoping some of these conversations for anyone listening might be
13:49useful in that way where you're learning something and insight kind of resonates with you
13:53and you can sort of adapt it to the context you're working in
13:57yeah i i think the the nice thing about the the guests that we have is that they have
14:03so much experience right some of the people who have been in the space for for 20 30 years and
14:08even
14:08more um when you're in that space for a while and from what we've seen they have been very successful
14:15in some of the work that they do there's going to be so much experience and so much knowledge that
14:19they'll pass on to us and hopefully to the audience that they can use in their own work in their
14:24in their own activities too um so yeah as well as the the marketing that we just talked about that
14:31companies need to do sure that people gain a lot of useful ideas and concepts that maybe they didn't
14:38have already yeah definitely and in the point of resources um you all might remember but as a reminder
14:46we always stay on with guests for a bit longer so you can check out their q a's resources links
14:52that
14:52they give us and their profiles and how to get in touch with them at angelic life.org slash angelic
14:58talks so you can get some of those resources tj's talking about on there we've had some guests that
15:05have some really useful resources that you might want to go check out and download so definitely
15:09give the q a section a watch for sure for sure now especially if you want to go a bit
15:15more nerdy
15:15some of the technical sides of of their work whether it's the revenues the shares the investors
15:21they're reaching um definitely a good way to go into it yeah and i guess tj you've been within an
15:29ecosystem already for a while have you seen any big gaps between the different parts of the ecosystem
15:35that you're interested in sort of exploring yeah so i think a lot of the time there can be
15:44misinformation um i'll talk about two points maybe the misinformation that uh are in certain markets
15:50so in particular in energy a lot of the time you'll hear people say just speaking of africa and also
15:57asia they perceive a lot of sunlight why don't they just have solar panels everywhere um and there's
16:05just that gap where solar panels are expensive also who has the who controls the raw materials for this
16:10is really important in terms of production logistics is very important too
16:15and luckily we'll have some guests that can go into more detail there so this misinformation always
16:21key um it's also about um who's producing the final products usually leads to um people that are
16:29basically controlling the market um and that kind of leads to the the original question too so
16:34um there's there's definitely some guests that can focus on this um but those are probably the two
16:40big things in especially the africa and the ecosystem but the ecosystems in general that people
16:45probably need to focus on more yeah definitely yeah and if you can spot when that episode comes
16:52through and when we're talking about it you'll see tj will be very very happy yeah you'll see a smile
17:01all your listeners yeah that's your that's your way to maybe go on the video right yeah there you go
17:05if the audience are not like this is the one
17:10well we're really excited about season five um and i just want to leave everyone with one question as we
17:16kick off what does it take to turn climate ambition into action and i think all of us in this
17:22place
17:22we have an idea we have some ambitions in the climate space sustainability
17:27how we wish energy systems worked how we wish things were deployed the kind of innovations we
17:32want to see how we wish things moved a bit quicker sometimes in terms of policy but what does it
17:39actually
17:39take to do that and that's what a lot of our guests are going to help us understand understand the
17:45behind the scenes but also we have a lot of the solutions and a lot of the ideas already so
17:50how do we
17:51get them rolled out and and doing something you know and affecting communities so if you're interested
17:58in climate finance energy transition innovation entrepreneurship just creating a more equitable
18:03future make sure to follow the podcast and join us for the conversations ahead we're kicking off
18:08next week with one of the real estate episodes that tj keeps teasing and as always check out
18:15tangeliclife.org slash tangelic talks to read more about the guests but also catch up on episodes you
18:21might have missed and if you have anything that you want to talk to us about that we've been talking
18:26about in this season or past seasons you can reach us at podcast at tangeliclife.org tj do you have
18:34any
18:34parting words no just um really looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts on not coming episodes
18:40um see you in the next one like i said the real estate one is one of my favorite ones
18:44um and yeah looking forward to this season amazing well we'll catch you guys soon bye thanks
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