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00:00:04INTRO
00:00:08We get angry when someone calls us crazy, but when someone calls us a genius, we laugh, smile, we like it, we feel honored.
00:00:14So what do we do when we talk about a fine line between madness and genius?
00:00:19Of course, we prefer to use the genius side of it, the side that works to our advantage.
00:00:23Perhaps Salvador Dali, who faced such accusations during his lifetime, gave the most accurate answer to this matter.
00:00:31Because the only difference between me and the madmen is that I'm not mad, says the artist.
00:00:36Moreover, his genius is actually reflected in his works, while his madness might have manifested itself in his social life or perhaps in his antisocial behavior.
00:00:45They have behaviors that people find strange.
00:00:47That's not the point.
00:00:48Whether you're crazy or a genius, it's not a problem if it only necessarily concerns you and a few people close to you.
00:00:56But if at a certain point you are controlling the fate of thousands, tens of thousands, or even millions—and controlling their fate here, of course, means having an influence—
00:01:06Some people genuinely want to control their own destinies.
00:01:10They position themselves in a very different place.
00:01:12That's when it becomes important whether you're crazy or a genius.
00:01:16What kind of importance is this?
00:01:18Of course, we're talking about a political position.
00:01:20The higher your political position, the more important it becomes whether you're crazy or a genius.
00:01:26They call Erdoğan a political genius, and if political genius means using every card on the table as a bargaining chip under the current circumstances, then it's possible, it could be.
00:01:38So, within a normal dataset, if we do this together, I'll give you this in return, I'll receive this—it's understandable.
00:01:45But within a legitimate framework, and of course, within a reasonable one.
00:01:49But the idea that nothing is non-negotiable can hardly be explained by genius, or political genius.
00:01:56It can only be explained by a lack of principles.
00:01:59Because the principle has no commercial equivalent, and it shouldn't.
00:02:02Therefore, your principle cannot be put on the negotiating table.
00:02:05There are certain points in your life where you simply won't compromise.
00:02:10You never, ever make it a matter of negotiation.
00:02:12For example, you might be an Islamist and have transformed this from an ideological belief into a way of life.
00:02:19And you will make your sensitivity on this issue known everywhere.
00:02:23If things don't go your way, you can leave, you can walk away.
00:02:28Is that how it is?
00:02:29No, there's only one thing that can't be negotiated, and that's power.
00:02:33So, the key is to somehow stay in power; anything outside of power is negotiable.
00:02:38We can talk, we can reach a compromise.
00:02:40That this is why political scientists sometimes interpret it as genius, even as political genius, which I find very strange.
00:02:48Doesn't it seem that way to you too?
00:02:50So you need to have red lines in life, right?
00:02:52Yes, people can make mistakes, they can be caught off guard, but when it comes to red lines, they will correct their mistakes.
00:03:00At least the damage will be reversed before it gets worse.
00:03:03So what does he do?
00:03:04Of course, a politician wouldn't engage in corruption, right?
00:03:06Especially if he frequently emphasizes his Muslim identity, or if those close to him have done so, he will turn back from this situation very quickly.
00:03:14He will pay the price, he will pay the price politically, he will pay the price legally, and of course, the price between himself and his creator, between his conscience and himself.
00:03:21They have a reckoning.
00:03:23No, denying it and continuing on your path with all your might will eventually lead you to a completely different position.
00:03:31So now there's nothing you can't bring to the negotiating table.
00:03:35You could also call it a gambling table.
00:03:37Because you currently appear to be in a stronger position, it seems like you have the upper hand in the negotiation.
00:03:41You know how in handshakes and ceremonies, you place your hand on top of the other person's hand? They've taught it very well.
00:03:48You're implying a sense of superiority to the other side and to third parties.
00:03:51Okay, but we don't know exactly what happened at the table.
00:03:54It's very sad that Kaşif Kozinoğlu, an officer, later an intelligence officer, was accused, arrested, and died in prison.
00:04:04Guilty or innocent, we're talking about an incomplete judicial process.
00:04:09But he has family, he has relatives.
00:04:11Above all, he has a name, a title.
00:04:14So why does this image of a negotiation, which has nothing to do with that person's death or the revelation of the truth, bother you?
00:04:22Doesn't it?
00:04:23This has nothing to do with political genius.
00:04:25As you know, there are rumors circulating that negotiations are taking place with Ergenekon.
00:04:29Some negotiations take place, and that happens in politics too.
00:04:32But there are certain lines you can't cross.
00:04:35These are the values that truly make you human.
00:04:38But the extent to which you bend these principles, the extent to which you bring them to the negotiating table, and the points you raise in negotiations, also determines the quality of your humanity.
00:04:47Even your carat weight is debatable among precious stone enthusiasts.
00:04:51Hello dear viewers.
00:04:53By the way, I apologize, you may have seemed to be comparing President Erdoğan to Salvador Dali, but that was absolutely out of context.
00:05:00It was an example.
00:05:01But if there is a difference between madness and genius, in today's circumstances, that principle should prevail above all else in the media.
00:05:07You don't ask a madman about his principles, but if you call someone a genius, shouldn't they have some principles?
00:05:12Welcome, dear viewers.
00:05:14Next week you'll start with a live broadcast from the agency on TR724, but of course early on there will be Levent Keniz's free throw, Ersan Kırlı and Bülent.
00:05:23We greet you with Korucu's presence in the media today.
00:05:25And now we're live with the agency.
00:05:27After summarizing what happened, we will take a closer look at the current events.
00:05:30Let's start by asking our survey question to Mr. Haşim Tekineş, an analyst at the institute, dear viewers.
00:05:35Our survey question is, of course, related to current events.
00:05:38We are saying, dear viewers, that as you know, there is a funding crisis, and we believe that some names have been overshadowed during this funding crisis.
00:05:45Are we mistaken, or if they've been overlooked, what do you think might be the reason for that?
00:05:51We're asking for your thoughts on how some names have been overshadowed during the fund crisis.
00:05:55It's normal, you could say it's a trade secret and it's necessary.
00:05:58Or you might think that their political connections overshadowed them.
00:06:03And you think, no one is left in the shadows, every name that should be there is out in the open.
00:06:07Then the negotiation continues for option C or option D.
00:06:11You might also be saying that it will become clear who will remain in the shadows and who will come to the forefront.
00:06:16While you answer our survey, let's get straight to a summary of what happened.
00:06:26Dear viewers, the events unfolding are, of course, the funding crisis, the Kaşif Kozinoğlu case, and other developments.
00:06:34But interestingly, there are connections between them as well.
00:06:36We'll talk, but first let's summarize what happened.
00:06:38There are new developments regarding the funding crisis, dear viewers.
00:06:42It should be noted that the assets of executives linked to 9 companies have been seized.
00:06:47The crisis actually emerged on Wednesday.
00:06:49There was a significant impact on the stock market on Thursday.
00:06:54And today is Monday, so 4-5 days have passed.
00:06:57Some steps are still being taken regarding this issue.
00:07:00It's possible, but perhaps today, steps should have been taken regarding third-degree suspects, not second-degree suspects, right?
00:07:07However, we see that proceedings against some primary suspects are only being initiated on the 4th or 5th day.
00:07:12Could this be the result of an alleged rivalry between Hakan Fidan, Akın, and Yürlek?
00:07:17Because we see that the Ministry of Justice is carrying out operations with pinpoint accuracy.
00:07:22So the files are prepared in advance, and those that need to be collected are collected in the early morning hours.
00:07:25Even around noon, Minister of Justice Akın and Yürlek share their views and thoughts, either online or live, through press conferences if necessary.
00:07:35So we are seeing the reflection of a planned operation.
00:07:38Here, we see a crisis erupting and turning into an operation.
00:07:42We can't help but ask the same question here.
00:07:44Why is progress so slow?
00:07:46However, on the first day, primary suspects could have been detained, and on the second day, perhaps secondary suspects, and precautionary measures could have been taken regarding their assets.
00:07:55But what information do we become aware of by the 4th or 5th day?
00:07:59Here we are learning about money transferred to some accounts in Switzerland.
00:08:04Let's ask a simple question.
00:08:06The crisis erupted on the day it was discovered, or let's not say weeks in advance, let's say they learned about it a day before.
00:08:11However, Deniz Yavuz Yılmaz, a member of the new party, has a claim that we will report.
00:08:14When the crisis became known, he converted his money into precious stones and jewelry as much as possible and hid it.
00:08:23What will you do?
00:08:24It's not even registered in his name.
00:08:27Because at that level, these are resources that are not easily accessible to those in power, I think.
00:08:33So, if these things were done even on a small scale, can a few days of neglect be forgiven?
00:08:38Because what are we saying here?
00:08:39We are talking about 511,000 victims.
00:08:42Can the grievances of some of those people be addressed?
00:08:45I know.
00:08:45As we say these things, this is what goes through your mind.
00:08:48If none of those victims are among those watching us.
00:08:50There are those who say, "Well, if they invest so much in speculative stocks and speculative funds, of course they will pay the price."
00:08:58No.
00:08:58So perhaps this can be discussed, expressed, on a moral level.
00:09:02But in a state governed by the rule of law, whether or not a transaction involving documents bearing the state seal is speculative is not the primary criterion.
00:09:10Where does the state stand in all of this?
00:09:12There are supervisory boards, there are supervisory bodies.
00:09:15Why didn't they do their jobs?
00:09:16Therefore, those who loudly express their grievances on this issue are absolutely right.
00:09:21So what happened today?
00:09:23Let's get straight to it, dear viewers.
00:09:24According to a report by the Capital Markets Board, an operation was carried out at Katılım Evim Savings Financing Inc. on allegations of market manipulation, and 15 people were taken into custody.
00:09:34receipt.
00:09:35Investigations into the matter are ongoing.
00:09:37Let's repeat, this participation is about my home, my participation home savings finance company.
00:09:43Here we also have some well-known figures, especially those known for their religious talks, dear viewers.
00:09:49There are also names that are well-known to the public.
00:09:51For example, the first person who caught my attention was Uğur Akkafa.
00:09:55Let's quickly tell you who they are.
00:09:58Berkan Gülen is a sales manager, Celal Yarız is retired, and Furkan Baki is a computer technician.
00:10:03Halil İbrahim Ege, İlhan Aygün, İsmail Ege, Lütfi Çetinel, Mehmet Erbey, Mehmet Yıldırım, Murat Keçeci, Salih Can Bülbül, Samet Çetinel,
00:10:12Uğur Akkafa, Ramazan Erbey, and Selçuk Yahya are among those detained.
00:10:17There is one point worth noting here.
00:10:19Just like he's biding his time in the Kaşif Kozinoğlu case.
00:10:22Media outlets close to the government are not so assertive on this issue these days.
00:10:26But Hasan Atilla Uğur and those close to him, in particular, want to revive the so-called FETÖ file here.
00:10:35Of course, we were waiting for the moment when this issue, and this funding crisis, would be put into circulation.
00:10:40I specifically mentioned the name Uğur Akkafa.
00:10:42Because it caught my attention on social media.
00:10:44You must have seen it too.
00:10:45If they can't find anything else, they might make that comparison simply because their styles are similar.
00:10:50Let's add this as a note, dear viewers.
00:10:52Yet, even in his religious discussions on social media, he occasionally made statements that hinted at or explicitly indicated his lack of interest in the subject.
00:11:01Let's make a note of this and continue.
00:11:03Let's see how high it will climb.
00:11:05Let me add this immediately, dear viewers.
00:11:07Deniz Yavuz Yılmaz, a member of the new party, had a warning.
00:11:12More precisely, there was an issue he drew attention to.
00:11:14Why, you ask? Well, how does a crisis erupt?
00:11:18There are external factors, or there are some really shady dealings and dirty connections going on internally.
00:11:23They will break out, they will be revealed.
00:11:25But if you know this beforehand, then there's a crisis being prepared.
00:11:29So, you are either preparing for a crisis that you won't be affected by, or you are taking precautions because it's already being prepared for.
00:11:35Deniz Yavuz Yılmaz, a member of parliament from the new party, made the following post.
00:11:39He said that some people were aware in advance of the liquidation decision taken on September 17 for 131 funds belonging to 7 portfolio management companies.
00:11:48And he claimed that by exiting the system, he avoided the harm.
00:11:52Deniz Yavuz Yılmaz, dear viewers.
00:11:53He stated that there were 511,000 victims and that the Capital Markets Board's decisions of September 17-18 resulted in the liquidation of 131 funds belonging to 7 companies.
00:12:03He reminded everyone that the process had been initiated and drew attention to 12 names.
00:12:07Let's summarize quickly.
00:12:08Tera recalled the previously raised controversy regarding the 12 investors in the closed fund belonging to her portfolio.
00:12:14And he addressed the investors of the other funds included in the liquidation, dear viewers.
00:12:18Apart from the 12 scoundrels who manipulated Tera's closed-door account, the statement belongs to Deniz Yavuz Yılmaz.
00:12:25I am speaking to the 511,000 victimized fund investors in 131 funds belonging to 7 companies.
00:12:31You were trapped by the AKP.
00:12:34Let's repeat our question.
00:12:35We had a poll question for our viewers.
00:12:37What are your thoughts on the funding crisis?
00:12:40But we specifically asked what you thought about the names that were overshadowed, especially during the funding crisis.
00:12:45Please take a look at this statement by Deniz Yavuz Yılmaz.
00:12:49Let's state it right away.
00:12:50He is one of the best-known figures in the world of economics, especially in economic media.
00:12:55Erdal Sağlam worked for Hürriyet newspaper for a long time.
00:12:58He had a post about it.
00:13:00These 12 names were announced before these funds were opened, that is, before trading began on Tepas, dear viewers.
00:13:07We're talking about a stock whose value has been increased.
00:13:10We're talking about the fund, to be more precise.
00:13:12We see that 12 names were included at that time and were highly valued, and that these transactions were subsequently opened up.
00:13:19Regarding Erdal Sağlam's reminder about the 12 people, let's also underline Deniz Yavuz Yılmaz's call.
00:13:25511 addressed a victim.
00:13:27You were trapped by the AKP, he said.
00:13:29We will be discussing these topics, dear viewers.
00:13:31Let's quickly summarize the other topics.
00:13:34One of those headlines is related to the Kozinoğlu investigation.
00:13:37Dear viewers, Kazım Kaşifoğlu has been summoned to give a statement in the Kozinoğlu investigation.
00:13:42Who was Kazım Kaşifoğlu?
00:13:44Let's immediately search through the archives of Kutlar Valley in our minds.
00:13:47We're talking about an actor, of course.
00:13:48Because a fictional character was created to represent Kozinoğlu in the series.
00:13:54That character's name was also Kazım Kaşifoğlu.
00:13:56Sedat Savtak, who plays the character of Kazım Kaşifoğlu, was also summoned to give a statement.
00:14:03You might ask, what does that have to do with anything?
00:14:04We don't know.
00:14:05Let's see what kind of connection the judiciary and the prosecutor's office will establish.
00:14:08They may also make important announcements.
00:14:10You may have noticed this, by the way.
00:14:12The actor has made statements that are circulating widely on social media, you can be sure of that.
00:14:16He specifically mentions that Osman Sınav, who recently passed away, handed over two television series projects to the Şaşmaz brothers free of charge.
00:14:23They say Osman Sınav has been carrying a weapon recently and has received threats.
00:14:27It seems that, in a way, a smaller version of the "Valley of Wolves" series, one that reflects reality, has come to life.
00:14:34This is important in this context.
00:14:36Dear viewers, Sedat Savtak, the actor who plays the character Kazım Kaşifoğlu in the TV series Kurtlar Vadisi Pusu, has also been summoned for questioning.
00:14:43He was summoned as a knowledgeable person.
00:14:45I don't know, will the acting method be questioned?
00:14:47Does he know more than just the script?
00:14:49Or can an actor be held overly responsible for the script?
00:14:52We'll see.
00:14:53I can't help but smile.
00:14:55I'll ask Mr. Tekneş about that shortly.
00:14:58Imagine you are Hasan Atilla Uğur and his cellmate Merhun Kozino.
00:15:04As you know, they were released under judicial supervision with house arrest.
00:15:08But the two prosecutors involved in the case, well, the death allegations aren't directly related to them.
00:15:13It could be negligence or a closure.
00:15:16But they were arrested.
00:15:18Is health the only reason?
00:15:19If so, Hasan Atilla Uğur is older than both his cellmate and has seriously problematic health conditions.
00:15:27There are detainees who are ill and for whom a medical report has had to be requested from a medical institution.
00:15:31You are not making any savings regarding them.
00:15:33But you're releasing two people who are direct suspects in the murder case under house arrest.
00:15:39Of course, I accept judicial supervision, not release, but it's very difficult to explain without smiling.
00:15:44You're also summoning the player for questioning.
00:15:46You must know something.
00:15:47Let's continue.
00:15:48Dear viewers, where do we remember Ali İhsan Yavuz from, a member of the AKP?
00:15:51I know you're already smiling when you hear the name Ali İhsan Yavuz.
00:15:55What was he saying?
00:15:56Even if nothing happened, something did happen.
00:15:58Right.
00:15:59Actually, this is the only way you can explain something you can't explain otherwise.
00:16:02That way you won't have to explain anything.
00:16:04You're only sowing seeds of doubt.
00:16:06But thankfully, how long ago did he make that statement? Do you remember that statement?
00:16:11During the 2019 Local Elections, dear viewers, this expression was used after Ekrem İmamoğlu won Istanbul.
00:16:19Then, as you know, the election was held again.
00:16:21Ekrem İmamoğlu had won by a much larger margin.
00:16:23Anyway, that's not the point, but Ali İhsan Yavuz has a statement to make, dear viewers.
00:16:28Ali İhsan Yavuz spilled the beans, but of course, it wasn't a surprising statement.
00:16:32The expected announcement is that with 360 votes in the Turkish Grand National Assembly, it will be a move forward, not an early election.
00:16:42He stated that the election would resolve the issue of President Erdoğan's candidacy.
00:16:46This already shows that the plan was in this direction.
00:16:49Remember, we talked about this quite recently.
00:16:51AKP sources were either pointing to the fall of 2027 or perhaps a month earlier in 2028, maybe in April or May.
00:17:00An election was anticipated.
00:17:01This would also be Erdoğan's candidacy problem, if he had one, which we didn't believe he did.
00:17:05When we said there was no issue with his candidacy, we meant that under normal circumstances, he shouldn't be a candidate.
00:17:09Let's emphasize this first: in the context of Türkiye, Erdoğan does not have a problem with his candidacy.
00:17:14I don't think any of this is necessary.
00:17:15Actually, as you know, in this system, these things can be resolved by presidential decree.
00:17:20These issues can be resolved through decrees with the force of law.
00:17:23And then, as you know, there's no longer a place left in Üsküdar to appeal to the Constitutional Court.
00:17:29Dear viewers, another development is privatization... wait, it wasn't privatization, was it?
00:17:35It was a transfer of operating rights for 30 years.
00:17:37The French are also interested in this issue.
00:17:39It's not just the French who are interested; there are reports that the Spanish are interested too.
00:17:43But dear viewers, it is being claimed that the French are holding serious talks in Ankara.
00:17:48Let's transfer it right away.
00:17:49A French company that operates 29 roads and highways in 20 different countries.
00:17:55It's a company called Egis, dear viewers.
00:17:58Bridges and highways in Türkiye, slated for privatization for a period of 30 years, have become the focus of attention.
00:18:03And the administration is said to have begun talks with officials in Ankara.
00:18:07They are showing keen interest in the privatization of bridges and highways.
00:18:10This French company is currently just a rumor, but in the context of the economy and business dealings of this size, even rumors should be taken into account.
00:18:18required.
00:18:19It is said that the Spanish are also interested.
00:18:21Let's see where this all ends up.
00:18:23I'm just reminding you; perhaps we'll speak with Mr. Tekineş shortly.
00:18:27Does the government have no concern for prioritizing domestic and national production, especially regarding strategic buildings like bridges, particularly the Bosphorus Bridge?
00:18:34Of course, the French company will do what it is required to do according to international trade agreements.
00:18:40He won't neglect it, but you know, maybe a citizen inside might ask.
00:18:43We are not sure if it would be more appropriate to entrust the project to a local and national company.
00:18:47Governments must know something we don't.
00:18:50And finally, dear viewers, the last news item we want to share, which we don't want you to forget, is the Istanbul Metropolitan Municipality case.
00:18:57The 84th hearing continues today.
00:18:59The defendants' defenses continue in the 84th hearing, dear viewers.
00:19:04One of the noteworthy points is this.
00:19:06When will Ekrem İmamoğlu finally deliver his much-anticipated defense?
00:19:10Let's quickly summarize the information that emerged today, dear viewers.
00:19:13Ekrem İmamoğlu is expected to present his defense at the end of the month.
00:19:16Unless, of course, there's a change in the court schedule.
00:19:19Today, the defense statements of the defendants, both those in custody and those not in custody, are continuing.
00:19:25Let's specifically mention that.
00:19:27But of course, the most prominent development, and the topic being discussed most right now, is: When will İmamoğlu present his defense?
00:19:33It's expected at the end of the month, if there are no changes in traffic.
00:19:37That's how it all happened.
00:19:38Let's take a closer look at the current events.
00:19:48The live broadcast from the agency continues on TR724.
00:19:50We started at 4 PM Turkish time.
00:19:52We summarized what happened.
00:19:53We asked our survey question.
00:19:54And now we're taking a closer look at current events.
00:19:56With Mr. Haşim Tekineş, an analyst at the institute.
00:19:59Mr. Tekineş, hello and welcome.
00:20:01Hello Mr. Ömer, have a good week with the broadcasts.
00:20:03Thank you.
00:20:04We hope you had a wonderful weekend.
00:20:06If you've taken a break from following Turkish news.
00:20:10So it's really impossible to disconnect from the Turkish agenda.
00:20:14So, actually, many extraordinary things like that happen in the world.
00:20:16You know, Yemen, the Gulf, the Strait of Hormuz, and Europe.
00:20:21But of course, when it comes to the Turkish agenda, you can't sever the connection between a person and that place.
00:20:28And the Turkish agenda always surprises you the most, as they say, the Middle East is very complex, very intricate.
00:20:36Middle East policy and so on.
00:20:37I mean, nowhere in the Middle East is as intricate and complex as Türkiye.
00:20:41Absolutely, this is especially true for the media and politics, which require serious theses and academic research, particularly in the last 10-15 years.
00:20:51From a security policy perspective, these are definitely events that need to be addressed.
00:20:55Let's start with the funding crisis, Mr. Tekineş.
00:20:58We're talking about 511,000 victims.
00:21:00Today, Deniz Yavuz Yılmaz, a member of parliament from the New Party, made a post regarding this issue.
00:21:05"You were lured into a trap by the AKP," he told the victimized investors.
00:21:09He stated that those who knew the system had already left it.
00:21:12Economist Erdal Sağlam made a statement.
00:21:14When the fund was being increased, but inflated, of course there were 12 names involved.
00:21:19It was inflated after they got involved, and then the operations were opened up, it was called tefasta.
00:21:24Okay, I understand, there's a serious problem here.
00:21:27But in your opinion, and as a fellow citizen, you must have followed it closely.
00:21:32Should we speak of negligence in such a matter, or of giving way?
00:21:37Was it specifically intended for the crisis to escalate to this point?
00:21:40Perhaps the crisis was unwanted, but let me combine it with the next question I'll ask.
00:21:44Are we facing a kind of wealth transfer model, a modeling of this kind?
00:21:48To be honest, I don't think there's such a model or a well-thought-out, planned scheme.
00:21:58We are facing a situation that is largely the result of greed, corporate weakness, corruption, and impunity.
00:22:11Yes, ultimately, what exists, what emerges, is a transfer.
00:22:18Of course, some people are doing the plundering, and others are getting plundered, to put it bluntly.
00:22:22But I see this more as stemming from personal ambitions, loopholes in the system, and the fact that the system actually works this way.
00:22:31You know how we sometimes compare Erdoğan to Ottoman sultans, handing out favors like "that's yours, this is mine"?
00:22:40So, by distributing things to people in this way and providing that free space, right?
00:22:46Doesn't Erdoğan know about those public tenders, those contracts that are given out to this or that person?
00:22:51The system knows, everyone knows.
00:22:52The entire system, the entire regime, revolves around this.
00:22:56This revolves around such corruption.
00:22:59It's almost like something out of the Ottoman system; they'd send someone to a certain area to sell their property, collect taxes, and then leave.
00:23:07That thing is there, the official goes there and collects the tax.
00:23:12In the same way, it distributes handouts to certain sectors and regions of society and the country.
00:23:21And this both secures the loyalty of those elites and allows him to accomplish something without spending a penny from his own pocket.
00:23:29He is binding them to himself.
00:23:31At the same time, it also keeps track of their illegal activities in some way.
00:23:35So, they're all being recorded in some way anyway.
00:23:38This, in turn, allows Erdoğan to further increase his control over them.
00:23:47Unfortunately, this is the new regime in Türkiye, and this is no exception.
00:23:51Here's the thing, the best example of this kind of situation is the robbery or corruption model.
00:24:00So, this should be done without being noticed, as part of the normal routine, so that everyone can steal a reasonable amount, fill their pockets, but nobody...
00:24:11He doesn't want that, right?
00:24:12So, this system is supposed to explode, cause so much harm to the state, to everyone, and be shoved right in the public's face.
00:24:18Unless it's the result of some other, or perhaps some other, political intrigue, you'd prefer it to be a little more discreet.
00:24:28Everyone has control over their own affairs.
00:24:29That's exactly why we're asking, Mr. Tekineş.
00:24:31So, as you said, it's acceptable.
00:24:33Of course, immorality is unacceptable, but whether it's economically acceptable – the amount involved – can be resolved.
00:24:38Even if it's covered by the treasury, it might not be met with a very serious backlash from the public.
00:24:43But what exactly are we seriously discussing now?
00:24:45It should be compensated in some way by the winners.
00:24:49It should not be reflected in the treasury, or those who neglected to do so should bear the cost.
00:24:52Those who neglect their duties, their supervisory duties.
00:24:54When you specifically ask whether this is a wealth transfer model, the underlying reason is this.
00:24:59As you said, people of reasonable means can win.
00:25:02Erdoğan has a method for this that he has been using to accustom people to for quite some time.
00:25:06First, it involves them in crime.
00:25:07Just like in organized crime, he gets them involved in petty crimes.
00:25:11But then they keep your criminal record.
00:25:14And one day they might have bigger demands than you.
00:25:17Even if they don't make extravagant demands, they might still want a portion of what you've collected.
00:25:21If you want an example, let's recall Binali Yıldırım and his family in this context.
00:25:25I wish they would come out and deny these allegations.
00:25:27What we are referring to here is the appearance that the state officials responsible for oversight have neglected their duties so far.
00:25:34But experts say it cannot be ignored.
00:25:37So it's nothing that can be overlooked.
00:25:39It's impossible to miss.
00:25:41We're not talking about a hundred layers of paper.
00:25:43We're talking about a value increase of thousands of times over.
00:25:45It's impossible for this not to be noticed during the process.
00:25:48This is where the impression arises that priority was given.
00:25:51And Deniz Yavuz Yılmaz, a new member of the party, is actually telling people that very clearly.
00:25:56He says you were trapped, and people, especially those who left, left this bill to you; they profited and went their own way.
00:26:04So I'm asking, are we talking about negligence here, or is there a deliberately planned system in place?
00:26:12Honestly, I can't comment directly on this incident; it definitely needs to be investigated.
00:26:19We need someone more knowledgeable, an economist, someone familiar with the inner workings of the Capital Markets Board of Turkey to comment on this.
00:26:25But generally speaking, when I look at the current system, this is what I see.
00:26:30So there's some loot involved, okay?
00:26:32That loot is actually public property.
00:26:34It belongs to everyone.
00:26:35This includes money in the treasury or assets belonging to the treasury, all collected through taxes paid by all citizens.
00:26:42State-owned assets should be institutions.
00:26:44Let's list them all.
00:26:46Let's consider the entire existence of the country.
00:26:49Now, the situation is such that what should normally happen?
00:26:53The state's law enforcement agencies, the state's Ministry of Finance, its judiciary, and its auditing institutions need to establish a control mechanism over how these resources are spent.
00:27:05required.
00:27:05The Grand National Assembly of Turkey, the parliament, authorizes the ministries and institutions to spend this much and that much on other things.
00:27:12He gives everyone the money to spend.
00:27:14Then, how these institutions and these resources are managed, both by the parliament, through the audit office, and through other oversight bodies, and through the judiciary...
00:27:23How it is evaluated, how it is used, and how it is spent are controlled and monitored.
00:27:28Those who spend these funds will be held accountable.
00:27:31But now there's no such accountability, no such control mechanism left.
00:27:35The men completely destroyed everything.
00:27:36So, one of the most suspicious names in this whole affair is the wife of Akın Gürley, who is already a member of the Capital Markets Board (SPK).
00:27:45So you look at the judge, you look at the prosecutor.
00:27:48These guys are smuggling drugs, anyway.
00:27:50So, you look at your soldiers, and they're smuggling people across the border.
00:27:54So the country has reached a point where the institutions and individuals who are supposed to be supervising it are already doing it themselves.
00:28:00The narcotics unit is dealing with drugs, and he's being arrested.
00:28:03So, this is the kind of system we're talking about.
00:28:05Now, when things reach this point, these actors within the regime, you can't just do this little by little.
00:28:12Because the loot at stake, the treasure at stake, is an astonishing treasure.
00:28:17Türkiye is a rich country, rich in every aspect, including its society, despite everything.
00:28:21Even today, it's a rich country, I mean, if it were used properly, if it were used wisely, it would truly be a country with abundant resources.
00:28:32But now we are in a situation where there is no oversight mechanism in place to manage this treasury.
00:28:38Now, without any oversight mechanism, these vultures that swarm around it can't just take little bits and pieces.
00:28:46So, how was it in the past, right?
00:28:48I remember it from when I was little, those February 28th events, the corruption, the thing about 10,000 dollars going to the parliament and drinking wine...
00:28:55something nothing
00:28:56So, 10,000 dollars, I remember those figures from back then, were very small amounts.
00:29:01But now you can't eat small portions.
00:29:03From where?
00:29:04Because you didn't eat it, the man next to you will eat it.
00:29:07So you can't be sure about your own thing.
00:29:10Someone else will get food, someone else will get rich.
00:29:12Then he will become powerful, he will use it to buy population.
00:29:16You know how there are those explanations in classic mafia movies? Well, there are explanations in The Godfather, in that opening scene.
00:29:23So, once that control mechanism is removed and an environment of impunity is created, those actors, those vultures, have no chance of stopping themselves.
00:29:35They have nothing.
00:29:35They have no mechanisms.
00:29:37Because once you're in the system, if you don't eat it, if you don't take it from that treasure there, then...
00:29:45Someone else will take it.
00:29:46He's not going to stay there anyway.
00:29:47Adam thinks the same way, and so it's turning into a competition.
00:29:51So it's turning into a kind of stealing competition between the actors.
00:29:58Now that things are like this, these kinds of crises are no longer minor.
00:30:03It's exploding, I mean, normally you'd say, "You'd take it away little by little," right?
00:30:07You've already stolen enough to support your family, brother, I mean, you've done all this, if you had stolen little by little, maybe you could have lasted much longer.
00:30:14So you're going to steal it anyway.
00:30:15So, or rather, if you kept this at a more reasonable, logical level, and didn't exaggerate it so much, maybe it could last much longer.
00:30:21You're going to handle this job.
00:30:23But that's not how it works.
00:30:24Because if you don't do it, someone else will seize that opportunity.
00:30:28Because there's no oversight, no control, you're not accountable to anyone.
00:30:32So if you're giving away money, you're probably only giving a maximum share of your earnings to one or two people.
00:30:37That's when enormous figures, like $20 billion, emerge.
00:30:45It's huge, and what's going to happen now?
00:30:48So, the citizens will have to pay for this.
00:30:49So, this money will come from people who invested it here, and perhaps even ordinary taxpayers.
00:30:56But the current system is creating such a fierce competitive environment for the vultures of this regime.
00:31:05And everyone is swarming around this great wealth, this great treasure, with such greed.
00:31:11Because, as I said, if you don't do it, someone else will.
00:31:15Therefore, I don't think there's a system in place here.
00:31:17But what's the problem?
00:31:18There's a game being played on the actors by this environment.
00:31:23The country is also somewhat of a victim of this game.
00:31:26So he becomes a victim of that lawlessness.
00:31:29Everyone knows that everyone is greedy.
00:31:32So the person next to him is greedy too.
00:31:33His other partner is greedy too.
00:31:35He would steal even more if he got the chance.
00:31:38So what do you do then?
00:31:40You're stealing.
00:31:41So you're stealing more, man.
00:31:43Here, Mr. Tekineş, there is another point we want to draw attention to: there are names that remain in the shadows.
00:31:48It will eventually come out.
00:31:50At the very least, when the rule of law returns, these names will emerge as a result of a serious investigation.
00:31:54But these 12 names are specifically mentioned as the valuations of these companies were increased, or more accurately, their internal values were inflated.
00:32:01And those papers, which were initially closed but then opened for trading after that valuation, and which involved those 12 people...
00:32:08Then we see that it's opened for processing.
00:32:10Here are 12 names, and maybe some more that we don't know about.
00:32:14I say "perhaps you don't know" because more speculative statements about the structure of closed funds could be developed, so let's keep that in mind for now.
00:32:21But what we're curious about is this: all the names that initially came to mind have been detained, and their assets have been seized to expedite the process.
00:32:29And it could have been done in an organized way.
00:32:31So what are we talking about a few days from now?
00:32:33We're talking about a significant transfer of money to Switzerland.
00:32:36Similarly, it's also possible to conceal this asset within the country by quickly converting it into precious stones, and so on.
00:32:45In other words, the response could have been more organized and faster.
00:32:47But there are also those who remain in the shadows, and the officials of institutions like the Capital Markets Board and the Banking Regulation and Supervision Agency.
00:32:55But I wonder if they will be held accountable.
00:32:57Or, as we always talk about, the President has a certain way of doing things.
00:33:01If you're with me, you'll be comfortable; if you're with me, you won't even have to answer to anyone.
00:33:05Here too, will the approach be to exclude those who are on our side from questioning?
00:33:08Or, you know, maybe public opinion is now pressing hard enough for the Banking Regulation and Supervision Agency (BDDK) Chairman, or someone from the Capital Markets Board (SPK), and one of our viewers specifically mentioned his name just now...
00:33:16He points out that the wife of Justice Minister Akın Gürley is a member of the board of directors of the Capital Markets Board (SPK), which is not a crime.
00:33:21It's in open sources, and he says so himself.
00:33:24In a situation like this, would those individuals at least provide information to the prosecutor's office?
00:33:28So now I'm thinking, if this fund has operated in this way until now, it already has a certain level of government protection.
00:33:37They have already done this job underneath.
00:33:39So all of these men are somehow close to the regime.
00:33:43Now, two things emerge here.
00:33:45So, what happens when this fund collapses?
00:33:51Of course, the people who have been protecting you until then will somehow wash their hands of this matter and get away with it.
00:33:59through.
00:34:00Or, you know, we didn't have that problem anyway, we warned them, we did this and that, and we're going to pursue this, investigate it, do this and that, something like that.
00:34:09They are adopting the approach.
00:34:10So that protection, that protective umbrella, suddenly disappears.
00:34:14Those with stronger connections, those who have more influence over the palace or the regime, receive more support.
00:34:26Those with a closer connection, of course, might have a bit more protection, stronger protective shields.
00:34:35They will, of course, be exempt from such things.
00:34:40But of course, ultimately there's 20 billion dollars involved, and when there's 20 billion dollars, some people...
00:34:49They need to be pushed under that truck.
00:34:51Ultimately, a truck will hit someone, and who that person will be, and how close or how far you are from that power,
00:35:00Your connections to those in power determine this.
00:35:03And of course, I don't know how true these claims are; I also think these issues are just fights between factions within the regime.
00:35:14They are linking this particularly to the Kozinoğlu case.
00:35:19So, one of them is a move by Hakan Fidan against Akın Gürle, and the other is a move by Akın Gürle against Akın.
00:35:25It's a move against Fidan.
00:35:28I don't know how true that is.
00:35:29Naturally, given the nature of the current regime, these things rarely go beyond being mere rumors.
00:35:37This doesn't mean they dismiss such rumors, or that they're untrue.
00:35:44Because what we have here is a regime that operates quite secretly, in the shadows and darkness.
00:35:50Our sources of information are limited, but by interpreting these signs—signs coming from the palace, which palace?—we can understand the ministers' perspectives...
00:36:01By examining the subtle nuances in the statements made by those close to the palace, it's as if they're studying a laboratory experiment.
00:36:11We are trying to understand such a regime, to comprehend the internal conflicts within the regime, from the outside.
00:36:16So, such a thing exists.
00:36:17It's not actually contrary to the character of the regime, as you said, it's impossible to verify or confirm the allegations, but the regime is, in a way, like this.
00:36:24He also displays character.
00:36:25Let's ask that very question and connect it to the current topic, but first, let me convey the greetings of our viewers.
00:36:30Let me clarify, our viewer says the public has no shield.
00:36:32In fact, the public had a very good shield, a very powerful shield, called the law, but unfortunately, politics somehow distorted the law in its own way.
00:36:39He turned it in his favor.
00:36:40So, in essence, he disregarded the law.
00:36:42The public has thus lost its most important shield against politics.
00:36:46The viewer is referencing a movie by saying, "They stole the whole battery."
00:36:50He's absolutely right, he's asking where the money is.
00:36:52They keep talking about coups, but they're dealing the nation coup after coup.
00:36:56He answers the question of where the money is by saying it's in safe Swiss banks.
00:37:00Our viewer, who licks the finger that holds the honey, is taking not just a finger, but the whole pot of honey.
00:37:04"Damn it!" said one of our viewers.
00:37:06And another viewer asked, as we just said, will these people be held accountable?
00:37:11No, he is not accountable.
00:37:12Because they are not called to account.
00:37:13Remember Şahap Kavcıoğlu? He got promoted after every fiasco.
00:37:17Let us remember that Prof. Dr. Şahap Kavcıoğlu is a former Governor of the Central Bank.
00:37:21We don't know if it was the catalyst for his appointment as Central Bank Governor, but a critical article he wrote in Yeni Şafak certainly was.
00:37:28So, this is the career path Şahap Kavcıoğlu has chosen.
00:37:31"The vulture metaphor is very apt," says one viewer.
00:37:34They are chatting amongst themselves.
00:37:36A very thorough investigation is not necessary.
00:37:38Machines and programs already run filters for this purpose.
00:37:42Simply investigating it will suffice.
00:37:44And he says these things will happen one day.
00:37:46Our viewer wrote "It will happen one day" in capital letters to indicate that they believed in what they wrote.
00:37:51Thank you.
00:37:53And another question we have for you, Mr. Tekineş, is that the Kozinoğlu investigation is ongoing.
00:37:59But as I stated at the beginning, whether the Kozinoğlu investigation is right or wrong, guilty or innocent, is not important at all.
00:38:06We are talking about the death of a person.
00:38:07There is a strong suspicion that he was murdered.
00:38:09In fact, it is clear that those who say they are currently investigating are not interested in Kozinoğlu's life or death.
00:38:17It's as if you want to walk somewhere else from here.
00:38:19Where do we get this from?
00:38:20Two prosecutors may have been negligent in this matter, there may have been a closure.
00:38:25So, it's understandable that they were summoned again in the investigation.
00:38:28But while they were arrested, their two cellmates, two people who could be directly charged with murder, were released under house arrest with judicial supervision.
00:38:37And it seems they watched another episode of Kurtlar Vadisi from the archives today.
00:38:42They called the actor too.
00:38:43He was portrayed there as Kazım Kaşifoğlu.
00:38:46They watched it pretty fast, though.
00:38:49Sir?
00:38:50They watched it pretty fast, I guess.
00:38:52He came straight to that section.
00:38:53I remember it just yesterday, or I think it was Friday.
00:38:56They had been assigned to monitor the situation.
00:38:58They must have spent the entire weekend watching all those episodes.
00:39:02Perhaps they received help from interested viewers like you.
00:39:05I noticed you also gave a recommendation on social media.
00:39:08You know, so you can watch certain episodes.
00:39:10Perhaps they received professional help in that regard.
00:39:12But at this point, there are certain connections that we just talked about.
00:39:16And these connections sometimes feel like bargaining.
00:39:19Here are 12 names that are being overlooked.
00:39:21Or the managers, the top executives of these companies.
00:39:24Moreover, Professor Alkin and his brothers, Kerem and Emre Alkin, were arrested.
00:39:28Important and well-known figures like them were arrested.
00:39:32But for some reason, some individuals could not be reached, or the operation was launched at a time when they could not be reached.
00:39:37Now this makes us think about something.
00:39:38A table has been set, are negotiations taking place?
00:39:41So, to avoid getting involved, you guys just take these things, take this much, and then withdraw.
00:39:45It's perfectly normal for us to think that.
00:39:46It may not seem reasonable to some, but the current situation naturally leads people to think that way.
00:39:50On the other hand, in the Kozinoğlu investigation, if Hasan Atilla Uğur is being placed under house arrest due to his age and health condition, why are the prosecutors arresting him?
00:39:59Moreover, I agree that if Hasan Atilla Uğur's health condition is not suitable, then he should be placed under house arrest.
00:40:04But then there were prisoners who were sicker and older than him.
00:40:08Why aren't positive measures being taken regarding them?
00:40:10Let's ask him about this as well.
00:40:12Was a negotiating table set up here, just like there?
00:40:15Who is sitting on the other side in this negotiation?
00:40:17Who is opposing the ruling power?
00:40:19Now, in this period, all the courts, in fact the judicial system, have turned into one of the arenas of politics.
00:40:26So, okay, let's separate the cases, the commercial cases and things like that.
00:40:31But certain political cases, certain criminal cases in particular, have turned into an arena for settling scores.
00:40:38It has turned into a tool for settling scores.
00:40:40And these cases are used by the courts, sometimes by certain factions within the regime sending messages to each other.
00:40:49Through messaging, threats, or blackmail, these things are possible.
00:40:54Or, through certain cases, the state tries to discipline certain groups and individuals in this way.
00:41:01He's trying to get it under control.
00:41:02Therefore, courts are now engaged in a kind of pursuit of justice, the provision of justice, and the fulfillment of the requirements of the law.
00:41:10So these are very old, nostalgic ideas from the past in Türkiye.
00:41:16Therefore, in every political trial that is opened, it is necessary to first consider the state and position of politics, the expectations of the government, and these factors are crucial for understanding that case.
00:41:25More precisely, to understand that questionable thing, that political step, it needs to be placed within its general context.
00:41:34Now, these political trials have been going on for a while.
00:41:37It all started with Muhsin Yazıcıoğlu, and now it's come to the Kozinoğlu case.
00:41:44So, of course, there's always talk about this, like "the [Gülen] movement did this," "the [Gülen] movement did that," and so on, using the term FETÖ (Fethullah Gülen Terrorist Organization).
00:41:51He does that...
00:41:52This FETÖ, of course, if we go back to July 15th, or even a little further, to the corruption investigations of 2013, was a new political organization formed after those events.
00:42:00in understanding,
00:42:01In the regime's new political consensus, what that power coalition agreed upon was, namely, the fight against the religious community.
00:42:12Then the new regime was established, and consequently, the regime actually speaks in this language.
00:42:18So he's saying things, repeating "FETÖ, FETÖ, FETÖ," but what he's actually trying to say is something else.
00:42:23So, it's because that regime, that regime, is built upon this understanding, upon this blockade, and therefore this has become the language of the regime.
00:42:31He has arrived.
00:42:31Or did we walk with the congregation today?
00:42:32The information that confirms this is related to that.
00:42:36As you know, the positions of A Haber and ATV are well-defined.
00:42:39Developments concerning Hasan Atilla Uğur, here and there, were evaluated precisely from this point of view.
00:42:45We see that especially within the Aydınlık group, there is an attempt to bring FETÖ back into circulation, to circulate that narrative again.
00:42:51In a move that seemed quite unusual, Zeynep Küçük, the lawyer daughter of retired General Veli Küçük, gave a speech that was practically presented to social media.
00:42:59There is no organization called Ergenekon there, but there is FETÖ.
00:43:02I'm not sure how a lawyer can speak like that.
00:43:06Okay, the current data might suggest this, but in the Ergenekon case, he was his father's lawyer.
00:43:12So, when a lawyer compares the concrete data there with what is called evidence in these community cases and FETÖ investigations, he will probably retract his statement.
00:43:21that's what I think.
00:43:22But I admit I have very good intentions.
00:43:23But now that these claims are circulating, are we heading towards a process where sources close to the government will link Hasan Atilla Uğur to the Gülen movement?
00:43:32Or will the cards finally be laid bare, and the long-discussed Erdoğan-Ergenekon showdown begin?
00:43:40Is Erdoğan taking preemptive action because he foresaw this?
00:43:43Yes, if you remember, two years ago, this name slipped my mind during the investigation into another political assassination, and it involved you.
00:43:53You'll remind me now.
00:43:55Even Levent Gökteş was called a FETÖ member back then.
00:43:58This is not the Necip Abdelitoğlu murder.
00:44:00Yes, in the Abdelitoğlu murder case.
00:44:02So, this is the language of this regime, the current regime, the language Ankara speaks of.
00:44:08Therefore, when trying to understand what is being said there, it is necessary to analyze it well.
00:44:13What's actually being discussed there isn't a service movement.
00:44:17Yes, the Hizmet movement is the underdog in this power struggle.
00:44:23And again, they've arrested those prosecutors, supposedly connected to the movement, I don't know what their motives are anymore.
00:44:31In a way, this service movement is being oppressed here, it's becoming the oppressed side.
00:44:36But that's not the main point, the main goal here.
00:44:40If they're going to do something, like an operation against the Hizmet movement, they're not even giving a reason for it.
00:44:45So, he can move around there very easily in every way.
00:44:48So, going on like this, Muhsin Yazıcıoğlu or Abdelitoğlu, these major assassinations, major events,
00:44:54These lawsuits could upset certain segments of the regime, potentially leading to significant changes and unrest within the regime itself.
00:45:04You don't need to open such big cases to conduct one or two operations and make arrests targeting the Hizmet movement.
00:45:09Therefore, the things here, that is, the concept of FETÖ and the references to FETÖ, need to be understood in this way.
00:45:17Or, you know, those encrypted things, those communications, you translate them, and there's a decryption key for them.
00:45:26You know, it's necessary to understand what the current elements of this regime are trying to say with that key.
00:45:32Of course, now, was that Zeynep Küçük, Veli Küçük's daughter, or the Aydınlık group, you know...?
00:45:37So, what is one of the reasons why they are highlighting the concept of FETÖ (Gulenist Terrorist Organization)?
00:45:43Because they don't want to break up the current coalition, the coalition that exists with Erdoğan.
00:45:49As we've mentioned in previous programs, Erdoğan always has this habit of devouring his own allies and coalition partners.
00:45:57Because he's jealous of the income, profit, and growth they're getting from that coalition.
00:46:03So afterwards, they think that their partners and close associates have become much more powerful.
00:46:08He's cutting them all down somehow.
00:46:09So Erdoğan himself has somehow dealt with everyone who worked for him; he's purged them, slapped them around, crushed them, you know.
00:46:17That's just how this guy works.
00:46:20Or is this style Erdoğan's?
00:46:23They know this now, they see it in the MHP too, right?
00:46:26Or, as the Aydınlık group sees it too.
00:46:28On the other hand, right-wing Erdoğan's other partners in that coalition, as well as religious sects and other things, are probably also watching.
00:46:35What are they doing now?
00:46:38To avoid being subjected to the same slap, the same thing, in a way that avoids being subjected to Erdoğan's attack,
00:46:45In order for this coalition not to break up, despite all of Erdoğan's actions and moves,
00:46:51For example, in a case like the Sinan Ateş murder, isn't the expansion of that investigation, that setting of a trap in the first place?
00:46:57Then the court grows, it does that.
00:46:59But what are these things? I mean, could this court, such a court, such a matter, grow without Erdoğan's permission? Nationalist Movement Party?
00:47:05From his party?
00:47:06It cannot grow.
00:47:07They also know who did it, who is behind this whole thing.
00:47:10Similarly, if this Kozünoğlu case is going to target the Aydınlık group,
00:47:14The will behind this whole thing is actually clear.
00:47:17They also know who is behind it, who actually started this investigation,
00:47:22This investigation is actually about uncovering Kozünoğlu's murder,
00:47:25Maybe it will truly enlighten them, we don't know for sure, but that's not the main point here.
00:47:30What is the purpose of Ases?
00:47:31The main purpose is to use this as a political maneuver, a political move.
00:47:35And who is capable of doing this?
00:47:37So, I don't know which state archives those images, which haven't surfaced for years, are in now.
00:47:43Who is this person who can bring this out and release it, who can lay all the information out in the open?
00:47:48I mean, who in Türkiye has such power?
00:47:50The palace is also involved, so without the palace's will, without the palace's approval, something like this wouldn't happen.
00:47:56But despite all that, what does the man say?
00:47:58There was this thing that wasn't there, there was FETÖ, what else was there?
00:48:01Well, that's not the point there.
00:48:03What are they trying to do?
00:48:04No, not a coalition, not clinging to Erdoğan's coattails like that.
00:48:08I mean, let's hope Erdoğan doesn't abandon us, even if he kicks them or tries to throw them out by the ankles.
00:48:12They're trying to cling to one place or another in order to avoid incurring Erdoğan's wrath.
00:48:19They don't want to lose what they've gained.
00:48:23You've made a very accurate connection.
00:48:26I was about to remind you, but you mentioned it.
00:48:27In the Sinan Ateş murder case, we saw the following during the court proceedings.
00:48:31Actually, he's not being put on trial.
00:48:32It's just being recorded.
00:48:34So, one day it's saved as a useful file.
00:48:37Besides, they only shared as much as they wanted with the public.
00:48:40But there may also be some important, more publicly available information and documents that haven't even been shared with the public.
00:48:45As you reminded me, this emerged in the Kozinoğlu investigation 11 years later.
00:48:52Images that surfaced 15 years later.
00:48:54Yet, this matter was investigated even back then.
00:48:57Why didn't we know about those images back then?
00:48:59Hasan Atilla Uğur was the subject of discussion that day.
00:49:01As Hasan Atilla Uğur said here when the issue came up a month ago,
00:49:05Now we've seen how his statement to the prosecutor changed.
00:49:07Could the images have had an effect?
00:49:09Why are we aware of these images now?
00:49:11Just as you said, an event from the past doesn't just close the door.
00:49:15This characteristic of the regime can be brought back to the table in a very useful way, even when it comes to making decisions about the future.
00:49:21Since you mentioned MHP, let's end the discussion about Türkiye with MHP.
00:49:23Now, starting in early October, we will most likely be discussing a new constitution in the near future.
00:49:29But weeks before that marathon of debates about the new constitution even begins, there's a whiff of division.
00:49:36But we've talked about this before.
00:49:37Could the MHP (Nationalist Movement Party) diverge from the AKP (Justice and Development Party) at this point?
00:49:40Because Devlet Bahçeli had previously drawn a line regarding the first four articles, but look what has changed!
00:49:47You could also say that this won't change.
00:49:49I'm looking into it, but as you know, Fethi Yıldız, a lawyer and deputy chairman of the MHP, occasionally makes statements on social media.
00:49:55The book provides explanations.
00:49:57So, he provides textbook explanations that justify our constant emphasis on obeying the law and the constitution.
00:50:03Could a disagreement arise between the MHP and AKP when discussions about a new constitution come to the forefront?
00:50:09For example, regarding the 50 percent plus one rule, as you know, this is being discussed within the AKP camp in the election.
00:50:15Fifty percent plus one is a percentage that no candidate can achieve anymore.
00:50:18Let's raise it to forty plus one, if possible.
00:50:20Ideally, the candidate with the most votes should be elected, as in a parliamentary system.
00:50:24But the MHP (Nationalist Movement Party) said they wouldn't change the 50 percent plus one requirement.
00:50:27But I clearly remember Bahçeli saying that the electoral system could also be reviewed.
00:50:32Do you expect a disagreement between the MHP and AKP over the new constitution debate?
00:50:37Well, I'm not expecting that in the end, but I'm not saying that either, of course.
00:50:41So everyone in Ankara is a puppet of Erdoğan, controlled by him, like in those movies where you see a puppet show.
00:50:49It's on the Godfather's emblem, its logo.
00:50:52I don't think that's the case at all.
00:50:54It's not a shadow play.
00:50:56He is one of the elements of this regime, including the MHP, the Aydınlık group, the BBP, and who else is there, you might ask.
00:51:03All of this involves a certain amount of bargaining, a certain negotiating ground with Erdoğan.
00:51:10And they have a certain kind of will, a certain set of characteristics, within their own little world.
00:51:21But only up to a point, of course, only to the extent that Erdoğan allows it.
00:51:26So, these constant negotiations, these kinds of bargaining, are actually what constitute that regime.
00:51:31What we call the Erdoğan regime today is actually certain groups, these groups I've mentioned,
00:51:36How many sects and things could we perhaps add?
00:51:40We can add certain prominent figures within the regime, such as Hakan Fidan and Ibrahim Kalın.
00:51:45The constant, daily, every moment negotiations between them,
00:51:50Give and take, these are the reckonings, this is what we actually call our regime.
00:51:54What we call Ankara today is essentially these things.
00:51:56And yes, within this framework, all of them, including the MHP and other actors, have a certain bargaining power.
00:52:02And they can only push this bargaining power to a certain point.
00:52:05How far can they push it?
00:52:07Erdoğan's red lines in that matter, Erdoğan's
00:52:10No, brother, they can only push you as far as they say they can.
00:52:13Can Fethi Yıldız or the MHP surpass him?
00:52:18I don't think so.
00:52:19So, in the current situation...
00:52:21As I said a moment ago about the Aydınlık group
00:52:25So, if the MHP were to, for example, immediately after the Sinan Ateş murder trial...
00:52:32Abdullah Öcalan was invited to parliament by the MHP,
00:52:36If it can change this much, that's enough to initiate the solution process.
00:52:40risking everything, that is, his entire political career,
00:52:44The whole country's authorities will be questioning you, won't they?
00:52:47So what is this leader doing?
00:52:48If you're making such a radical move that it makes people say, "What if..."
00:52:53That's what I'm assuming then.
00:52:55So, this means that in order to remain at this table, within this ruling coalition...
00:52:59You are obliged to do everything.
00:53:01So, as I understand it, you're going to do everything.
00:53:04Or, for example, people like Levent Göktaş, or Hasan Atilla Uğur.
00:53:08It's close to that, it's close to this enlightened group,
00:53:11close to the nationalist group, around Doğu Perinçey
00:53:14Even these names, even these names, can be kicked out when the time comes.
00:53:18To the point of saying, "These people were all FETÖ members anyway."
00:53:20So if you can sell even those closest to you
00:53:23What is this for?
00:53:24So, whatever happens within that coalition,
00:53:27No matter what, no matter how much we get beaten up by Erdoğan,
00:53:31Whether we get kicked or something, we just shouldn't let go of Erdoğan's coattails in any way.
00:53:36I think it's a result of understanding.
00:53:39Now, considering it from this perspective as well,
00:53:40Yes, it's clear that this is part of the constitutional amendment negotiations.
00:53:45Does the MHP also have a certain amount of bargaining power?
00:53:48There are certain issues.
00:53:50According to him, what they did was as part of the coalition.
00:53:53They may demand certain things in return for what they do.
00:53:58But these things, I mean, I think Erdoğan is the one with the upper hand here.
00:54:02So, there are limits to the bargaining power Erdoğan has with other Erdoğans.
00:54:08So, they can ask for things up to a certain point.
00:54:10To some extent, they might be able to impose certain things on the palace.
00:54:13But this only works up to a point.
00:54:15So, in short, you believe that there will be no problem between the MHP and the AKP regarding the new constitution.
00:54:22This includes parties like the MHP, and even other partners in the People's Alliance.
00:54:26Even though there have been dissenting opinions before, you believe they don't want to deviate from the current situation.
00:54:33There will be no problem with the new constitution.
00:54:34One of our viewers is interested in the topics we just discussed.
00:54:38So, who hasn't been thrown into the so-called FETÖ sack?
00:54:41We had spoken specifically about Hasan Atilla Uğur.
00:54:43One of our viewers says Hasan Atilla Uğur is a covert FETÖ member.
00:54:46One of our viewers shared the following.
00:54:48I've been an alcoholic for 40 years.
00:54:50They dismissed me from my job by a decree law just because I drank two cups of tea at the congregation's house.
00:54:53They might target Hasan Atilla Uğur as well, he says.
00:54:55First of all, we wish our viewer a speedy recovery.
00:54:58But this is the situation.
00:55:00Yes, whether you were part of the congregation or not wasn't important.
00:55:02Even the congregation didn't matter.
00:55:03Of course, the religious community was chosen in this context.
00:55:06But if it was a purge, a purge from the public sector, they carried out the purges they deemed necessary.
00:55:11Yes, they made a processing error here and there, but that has been corrected.
00:55:13Let me give an example.
00:55:14At the institution where I work, a journalist friend who worked for TESK (Turkish Confederation of Tradesmen and Craftsmen) was also dismissed by a decree law.
00:55:21The refund was processed two, maybe three days later.
00:55:23So, some teams had made mistakes along the way, and they corrected them.
00:55:26But they didn't give up because of that solid intelligence.
00:55:31They did what they had to do.
00:55:32Regarding the fund we just discussed, let those who covet the sweat and toil of the people while they are busy buying bread and paying their electricity bills know this.
00:55:39Anyone who lays their hands on the money of small investors must be held accountable in court, he says.
00:55:45However, since the regime is a coalition, he also shares that assessment later on.
00:55:49I will continue, dear viewers.
00:55:51I read your messages as much as possible.
00:55:52I realize I sometimes make the questions too long.
00:55:55One of our viewers mentioned him with a smile.
00:55:57That's because of the topics we discussed.
00:55:59I feel the need to constantly remind people, especially regarding the Kozinoğlu investigation and its connection to the Ergenekon-Erdoğan affair.
00:56:05Because in order to understand today, we need to remember that death 15 years ago.
00:56:10As Mr. Tekneş reminded us, these images did not exist that day.
00:56:12We need to ask ourselves why this exists today.
00:56:14That's why I sometimes prolong it.
00:56:15But especially regarding the questions I will now ask Mr. Tekneş, I will use short and clear statements.
00:56:20Let's head straight to Germany, let's head to Europe, Mr. Tekneş.
00:56:24In Germany, as you know, the AfD first won the election in one state.
00:56:28Saxony is in Anhalt.
00:56:30And suddenly people are thinking, what's happening?
00:56:32Why is the AFD rising?
00:56:34Are migrants in danger, I wonder?
00:56:36Beautiful spring breezes have been blowing for the past two days.
00:56:38Because Elif Eralp won in Berlin.
00:56:40He gave a very good speech.
00:56:42What will you say?
00:56:43Is everything alright in Germany?
00:56:46So, actually, the rise of the far right generally happens together with the rise of the far left, or rather, I wouldn't say far left.
00:56:56So, in these countries, the main problem is more the disappearance of the center, the weakening of the center.
00:57:02The centrist parties are losing their base, and society is becoming increasingly polarized over certain issues.
00:57:10So, essentially, society is slowly starting to diverge into two extremes.
00:57:13We see the same thing happening in America today, don't we?
00:57:16So, while Trump is being elected on one hand, on the other hand, someone like Mandane is being elected in New York.
00:57:21Now, this is somewhat similar to this.
00:57:23So, in the case of Germany as well, that center of society is weakening, and society is beginning to shift towards the extremes.
00:57:31And yes, of course, it's a source of pride that a Turk won.
00:57:37You know, someone who came to Berlin as an immigrant, I think it was around September 12th [1980 military coup], I haven't researched it much but that's what I heard.
00:57:42I read it on social media.
00:57:44It seems his parents fled after the September 12th coup.
00:57:47And so, from those circumstances, 45 years later, a name, that of an immigrant child, arriving in Berlin in this way...
00:57:58Perhaps the mayor, or rather, I apologize, the prime minister, will be elected.
00:58:03From what I understand, the system isn't finalized yet.
00:58:06I'm not very familiar with it, but it's in Germany.
00:58:08This is a great source of pride.
00:58:09But in a general sense, in terms of the general direction of Europe or the world, the political direction, yes, this society...
00:58:19This polarization, the shift towards the extremes, the weakening of the center.
00:58:25This is not a very pleasant situation.
00:58:27Because when the center weakens, and society evolves towards such extreme issues and marginal groups, that's when hostility and polarization begin.
00:58:37Not every issue should somehow divide society in two.
00:58:40And consider America; even the issue of masks caused a major political division during the coronavirus pandemic.
00:58:46So, you know, those guys were going to strangle each other through their masks.
00:58:50But is wearing a mask really the right thing to do, or not?
00:58:52I'm not an expert on this subject, so of course I don't know, but I mean, if something happens, you just attach it and move on, okay, that's all.
00:58:58I mean, maybe nothing would have happened even if it hadn't been attached, I don't know.
00:59:02So, something like wearing a face mask shouldn't be something that polarizes society this much.
00:59:08But what happens when society veers towards these extremes?
00:59:13These kinds of issues, even if minor, divide society, and society constantly becomes a battleground, while politics remains a constant arena of conflict.
00:59:23He has arrived.
00:59:23This is not a very pleasant or promising situation.
00:59:28Unfortunately, the situation in Germany is somewhat similar.
00:59:30As I said, yes, it's a source of pride that someone like that, someone from Türkiye, has been elected.
00:59:35But for society, or for Europe and the world in general, this is certainly not a very pleasant situation.
00:59:42The strengthening of the center leads to the emergence of more inclusive political movements, to the emergence of inclusive politics, to a politics that can encompass society and bring together different segments of society.
00:59:52The emergence of parties that can bring people together.
00:59:56These are more important for the system to become more established and for politics to become more stable.
01:00:03This, of course, again involves Germany, for example, Eralp's victory, Eralp's political triumph, similarly coming from Germany, its name...
01:00:15I don't remember, but it also happened in another city, perhaps, along with the AfD's electoral success.
01:00:21This actually demonstrates what I'm saying.
01:00:25The victories of the far right and the far left usually come together.
01:00:29Here, centrist parties represent a weakening of the traditionally central political order.
01:00:38This also means more instability in politics.
01:00:43In France, however, Macron turned this to an advantage.
01:00:46As you mentioned, while the poles were widening, he managed to slip through the cracks by pointing out the dangers of the far right from the center.
01:00:53Let's see what path Germany will take.
01:00:55I'll have a very brief assessment of Russia, or should we just congratulate Putin and move on?
01:00:59Because United Russia won.
01:01:00Moscow said it will continue with Putin.
01:01:03So, I guess nobody was surprised.
01:01:05What's that thing about the elections in Russia?
01:01:09Well, I don't know much about Russia, I'm not an expert on the subject, but there's not much to say about Russia.
01:01:17It was a situation we expected, with Putin involved, and the situation in Ankara is probably not much different.
01:01:27These things continue until God takes the life He gave, right? Erdoğan had a saying like that, "continue in office."
01:01:34Until Emre Hak Vaki passes away.
01:01:36Until Emre Hak Vaki passes away.
01:01:36What is noteworthy here is that, even if it's only a few seats, Putin's party has improved itself.
01:01:41United Russia has also increased its number of seats.
01:01:45But we know he has been criticized because of the war in Ukraine.
01:01:48We know that in Russia, even if not loudly, it is criticized at the grassroots level.
01:01:52We can't help but wonder how much this will affect the election.
01:01:55So they have over 57% of the vote.
01:01:57So what are we going to say?
01:01:58So the Supreme Election Board made the decision.
01:02:00Should we avoid digging into it too much?
01:02:05So maybe, to some extent, voter turnout rates can actually give an indication.
01:02:11How much public opinion approves of the current regime?
01:02:14Therefore, in elections like these, voter turnout can be very decisive in determining those things.
01:02:21Of course, this doesn't mean that...
01:02:23Putin has no base, or rather, Putin doesn't really have one; Putin has his own thing in Russia.
01:02:30So, he has an electorate, his own constituency.
01:02:34That's not entirely the case, though.
01:02:36How is it that Erdoğan has his own support base in Türkiye?
01:02:39Putin also has his own base of support.
01:02:41But what's happening?
01:02:42These kinds of minor interventions, with small changes.
01:02:46These things mean that, according to current polls, Erdoğan should actually be losing.
01:02:52He should have actually lost in 2023 as well.
01:02:55But that's not how it works.
01:02:57Small, you know, those intervention tools at the regime's disposal, certain tools, minor changes.
01:03:02Of course, there are transformers, and there's a cat.
01:03:05This is how they express their duties.
01:03:08But the war also had an impact.
01:03:10Now, as the impact of the war intensifies, the pressure on society increases.
01:03:14Actually, dissenting voices in society don't just start rising automatically all of a sudden.
01:03:21Why isn't it starting?
01:03:22Because as the unrest increased, and bombs started exploding in Moscow...
01:03:27This is what happens when Russians go to gas stations and can't find oil,
01:03:32When people cannot heat their homes, it also means the regime is increasing its pressure.
01:03:39So, while in the past certain things and certain criticisms were allowed,
01:03:44this is while the activities of certain opposition groups are allowed.
01:03:48These kinds of things include defeats, economic difficulties, and people lost in war.
01:03:54The wounded are beginning to tighten the reins on the regime due to the cost of the war.
01:03:59And they are taking more control, increasing the pressure even more.
01:04:04And in situations like these, rather than the opposition becoming more hardened...
01:04:08We can also see him becoming even more cynical.
01:04:11Because your space, your space for opposition, has narrowed.
01:04:18So, is that actually the case in Türkiye as well?
01:04:20So, economic difficulties, as the economic situation worsens,
01:04:23This is the regime, the Erdoğan regime in Türkiye, that has failed to fulfill its promises.
01:04:29They are having to increase the pressure.
01:04:31Why? Because if he fulfilled his promises, a certain level of satisfaction would naturally arise among the people.
01:04:35That won't be necessary.
01:04:36But what should you do if they can't provide it?
01:04:39Since you cannot gain the people's consent, since you cannot become a beloved leader,
01:04:44As Machiavelli said, to be a feared leader is to increase fear.
01:04:48This is the only solution we have left.
01:04:51It's a bit like that in regimes of this kind, and that's actually what's happening in Russia.
01:04:55So, partly due to the war in Ukraine, the level of authoritarianism has increased even further.
01:05:01Yes, we are actually going through an interesting period.
01:05:04As the post-World War II world took shape, predictions were made that democracy would advance.
01:05:08We have reached a point where the Second World War, even the period before the First World War, is a different story.
01:05:13We are facing more authoritarian, totalitarian practices, almost reminiscent of the imperial era.
01:05:18But was there an election in Russia as well?
01:05:20It happened.
01:05:20That's how it was recorded.
01:05:21But as Mr. Tekineş said, we shouldn't neglect the small details either.
01:05:25The citizens will certainly not forget him.
01:05:26Mr. Tekineş, finally, there is a very critical issue concerning Türkiye and the region.
01:05:31Let's ask about that, but before that, there are some posts from our viewers that caught my attention.
01:05:35We just mentioned Elif Erhat.
01:05:36He asks, "What more can we do for this country?"
01:05:38There's a post saying, "If the communists hadn't told Moscow, this Turkish girl wouldn't have become Chancellor of Berlin."
01:05:43Yes, it has such consequences.
01:05:44We're talking about a woman born in 1981.
01:05:47He gave a good speech too.
01:05:48Yes, it was the 1980 coup.
01:05:50It was the 1980 coup that took him and his family abroad.
01:05:53But this is the result that emerged.
01:05:56Here's something Türkiye might even be proud of.
01:05:58Our viewers are certainly making jokes.
01:06:00Perhaps some politicians will emerge who can say, "We are influencing Europe with the work we are doing."
01:06:05We can't say it's a dead end.
01:06:06Speaking of politicians, Mr. Tekneş, one of those who are making plans for the future and for personal gain is Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan.
01:06:13Therefore, what he said, especially what our President himself said, is one thing;
01:06:18However, there are also noteworthy points he made as the Minister of Foreign Affairs, points that deserve attention.
01:06:24One of them said we could provide military support to Saudi Arabia after the Houthi attack.
01:06:30He didn't imply it.
01:06:31He said it directly.
01:06:32And now all eyes are on the Red Sea.
01:06:34Do you really think Türkiye will send Turkish soldiers to the field to support the Saudis, as required by the Mecca agreement?
01:06:41Hakan Fidan just gave an interview on NTV there.
01:06:45I believe you're talking about him, one of you.
01:06:47In his interview there, he said that our President is a man of his word.
01:06:52Here, we've signed it.
01:06:53We will fulfill its requirements.
01:06:55So, if Saudi Arabia provides military or technical support or assistance in this matter, there will be no problem.
01:07:04he says.
01:07:05So he's speaking in somewhat vague terms, but the support Türkiye will provide is also a bit more technical—the word "technical" is important there.
01:07:14Here, too, it's somewhat similar to what happened in Libya and Karabakh, where Türkiye's involvement is relevant, as seen in these examples.
01:07:23For example, sending a drone, sending a drone operator, maybe sending an air defense system.
01:07:30These are the possibilities that come to my mind.
01:07:33Beyond that, a more comprehensive military intervention.
01:07:37So, sending soldiers, tanks, rifles, and artillery there doesn't seem very reasonable.
01:07:45So, this will start from Türkiye, go there, pass through the Suez Canal, go past Israel, go through Egypt.
01:07:54And you will have to provide this constantly, in the same way, that is, you will have to constantly supply it both from the sea and from the air.
01:08:03So this is a huge undertaking.
01:08:06I don't think it's something Türkiye would easily do.
01:08:12Therefore, it's a bit more technical, a bit more limited, involving sending drones, something Türkiye has experience with before.
01:08:20to make an attempt
01:08:23That seems more reasonable to me.
01:08:25In Saudi Arabia, at least in a way, to some extent, they're saying, "Yes, look, we kept our promise."
01:08:32This will ensure that Ankara says something like this against the Zuluts as well.
01:08:36At the same time, drones do have a real impact on the ground.
01:08:42It will also have an impact on the ground against the Hulusi family.
01:08:45That aspect will also be important.
01:08:47But the problem here is, you're going into a war with a certain mindset, a certain foresight, certain preconceptions, based on what Trump did.
01:08:57like.
01:08:58But then war, war imposes its own terms, its own game on you.
01:09:02The war isn't going the way you want it to.
01:09:04Here's a quote from Gamal Abdel Nasser, the Egyptian leader.
01:09:11As you know, they are also intervening in Yemen.
01:09:14So, there, we sent a symbolic contingent of soldiers to Yemen.
01:09:19Then he said something like, "We sent an army to protect that unit of soldiers."
01:09:23So, the intervention in Yemen is also quite costly for the Egyptians then.
01:09:27The war in Yemen is a war in which they have suffered great losses and caused much suffering.
01:09:33Yemen, and indeed everyone in general, has suffered.
01:09:36So, from America to the Ottomans, to the Saudis, everyone is somehow an Afghanistan, a Yemen.
01:09:42In these places, in one way or another, all empires have caused harm.
01:09:47Therefore, once you enter the war, it begins to impose its own terms on you.
01:09:51And the Houthis also threatened Türkiye.
01:09:54They said, "Just as we brought the Saudis into line, you can do the same to Türkiye and Pakistan."
01:09:59Such a statement was also made.
01:10:01So, the idea that the Houthis could do anything to Türkiye doesn't seem very likely to me.
01:10:06So they can hurt Türkiye, but it's also because of the distance.
01:10:11But the problem is, the Houthis' allies are Iran and the militia forces allied with Iran.
01:10:17So these things are happening near us, and for Türkiye to be able to escape from this, it has to deal with Iran or the militia forces in Iraq.
01:10:26Or it's highly unlikely he can escape his connection with Hezbollah.
01:10:31The attacks that will be carried out by the organizations here, the tensions with the organizations here or with Iran.
01:10:36These events could draw Türkiye into a different, more regional war.
01:10:44And Iran, even before doing anything, they already gave us four neutral points, yes, you know, a certain logistics...
01:10:52Support, you know, radar, the ones in Malatya, in Kürecik, yes, we have something in America's system, but Turkey is normal.
01:11:00As a NATO ally, it remained far more neutral than it could have, meaning it did not participate in a US-Iran war.
01:11:06Despite that, the Iranians launched four missile attacks, so nothing happened at all.
01:11:10Now, Iran's intention in this matter is to harm everyone, to see how many countries, how many geographical areas it will affect.
01:11:19The more we involve everyone in this, the more harm everyone suffers, the more comfortable we'll be, the more we'll have control over things.
01:11:25In Iran, the mentality is: "We'll become powerful, everyone will suffer, and that's how we'll break away."
01:11:30Therefore, Iran and its allies spreading this war to Türkiye, somehow involving Türkiye in this matter...
01:11:38It's possible that something like this could happen, that he/she could be drawing it in.
01:11:42So these are the dangers here, meaning you can't just limit yourself to one thing, not make a big deal out of it, and not get involved in a war.
01:11:50You get involved, but then the war might take you in another direction, so ultimately, it's his way.
01:11:58There's also this situation, I mean, since you were reluctant about this, and were only providing technical support in military matters...
01:12:04You were going to stay limited, since you had no intention of getting involved in this.
01:12:08So, with tensions already rising between the Houthis and the Saudis, why did you sign this agreement, brother? Okay, fine, let's say in January with Pakistan...
01:12:16So, you were willing to sign such an agreement when the Saudis were doing it?
01:12:19You were talking about this kind of agreement, about the future of the Middle East and all that stuff.
01:12:24Then, a month later, two months later, a war broke out there; the Saudis and the Houthis were constantly escalating the tension.
01:12:31The Houthis have started sending the items.
01:12:33You signed the agreement, and the very next day the Houthis launched an attack against the Saudis.
01:12:38Now, in this situation, how can you make such a promise? Doesn't this ever cross your mind, brother?
01:12:44Since you're not even willing to interfere like this, haven't you considered any of this?
01:12:49But where is that strategic thinking we used to have? Like, Hakan Fidan, his arms were like this, his tie was like that, what was so strategic about it?
01:12:57The mind finds things in everyone's videos, in shorts.
01:13:02But let's say the concept of jihad against Israel has blinded them to such an extent.
01:13:09So they didn't think twice about signing that document, as it would upset Israel.
01:13:12Because pro-government media said that Israel was trembling because of this agreement.
01:13:15But as you said, after signing such an agreement, Türkiye needs to consider that one of the parties is already in conflict, let's see if it's the Houthis.
01:13:24What will happen after the attack?
01:13:26But you're emphasizing that even if Hakan Fidan says so, you're talking about technical support rather than actual fighting.
01:13:33I recall from previous episodes that you spoke cautiously on this matter, and I'd like to remind our viewers as well.
01:13:38We've reached our limit; I'd like a very brief answer.
01:13:40Trump continues with his threats, as we know.
01:13:43What I find interesting is that at one point he attached great importance to these diplomatic talks.
01:13:47He didn't even mention Iran's attacks.
01:13:50The talks are ongoing. I'm talking about the negotiation phase in Pakistan.
01:13:53We were hopeful, but then he changed his tune.
01:13:55Now he's saying even more extreme things.
01:13:57"Very big things are going to happen," said United States President Donald Trump.
01:14:01Could this be a sign of a major attack before the congressional elections this November?
01:14:05Or will it remain calm until November?
01:14:07Could you please give me a short answer?
01:14:08So, when it comes to Trump, a shock could of course be a sign of something big, but...
01:14:13The game Trump wants to play, Trump can't play the game he wants to play.
01:14:17So the game he wants to play is to keep the Strait of Hormuz open through the American navy.
01:14:23Iran's intention was to neutralize that intervention and embargo, and instead impose the embargo directly on Iran.
01:14:32The goal was to prevent Iran from exporting oil through the Strait of Hormuz.
01:14:35So what would happen?
01:14:36And oil prices wouldn't rise.
01:14:39To what extent would it influence American voters?
01:14:42Economic and social pressure would be on Iran.
01:14:46Iran would have effectively lost the Strait of Hormuz card it had held from the beginning of the conflict.
01:14:51And it actually worked.
01:14:53So, to a certain extent, tankers were able to pass through that canal, the one that America had opened across the ocean.
01:15:00And this had somewhat eased the pressure on prices, the pressure on oil prices, to a more reasonable level.
01:15:06However, there are both developments in Yemen, at Bab al-Mandeb, and the Houthis attacking Syrian Arabia's oil facilities.
01:15:15being.
01:15:16So they hit the East-West line, they hit Yambu, they hit oil facilities and things in the East, they hit Riyadh airport.
01:15:24Therefore, this increases the pressure on that thing.
01:15:26Also in Iran, of course, they are against that thing that America has set up in the Strait of Hormuz, against the canal, against the protective shield.
01:15:36They are developing alternative routes.
01:15:38They are trying to target the tankers there in some way.
01:15:41This, of course, disrupts Trump's game.
01:15:44And Trump is once again caught between diplomacy and war, between two extreme options: escalating the war.
01:15:55He couldn't actually play the game he wanted to play; he couldn't play the game of shifting economic pressure onto Iran.
01:16:02Right now, either there will be an escalation, or they will somehow have to say yes to Iran, to Iran's demands, and will be defeated.
01:16:12Neither of them suits Trump, so he can't say yes to either of them.
01:16:16There is such uncertainty.
01:16:18So my fear is that in the end, what he'll do is the worst possible option, unfortunately I have that fear inside me.
01:16:25Let's hope that won't happen.
01:16:28We hope so.
01:16:29Because, as you said, the economic pressure he wants to exert on Iran is actually being partially experienced by himself through oil prices.
01:16:35Even in Texas, the price per gallon has reached almost $7.
01:16:39Of course, not everywhere, but if public opinion in the United States were to exert pressure under these circumstances,
01:16:45If we consider the congressional election, we might think that he's making such grand statements in order to achieve a result by then.
01:16:51We would say that we hope your fears, the issue you are worried about, do not materialize and that at least we avert a major war, but so far...
01:16:58We've talked about it many times.
01:16:59Over 15,000 strategic targets were hit.
01:17:02Hopefully, Trump and Israel in particular won't be so eager for big steps in the future.
01:17:07Mr. Tekneş, thank you very much.
01:17:08If there's anything you'd like to add, please let us know briefly.
01:17:11We wish you all the best in your work.
01:17:13Thank you.
01:17:13Have a great week, broadcasters.
01:17:15Okay, goodbye.
01:17:16See you again.
01:17:18Dear viewers, Institute Analyst Mr. Haşim Tekineş was with us.
01:17:22We said goodbye to him.
01:17:23We will share the results of our survey.
01:17:25You have a few messages.
01:17:27Let me mention him right away as we say goodbye.
01:17:29One of our viewers says that all hope for the Middle East is lost, that the sun will rise from the west, but people live in the Middle East too.
01:17:35Naturally, it is necessary to at least care about, to make it a concern, for the sake of the salvation of those people as well.
01:17:39We also try our best to bring the events happening there to the attention of those in Turkey.
01:17:43One viewer rightly asked if I mentioned what the Adana Police Department did.
01:17:48Let's not skip this.
01:17:48Yes, they harshly intervened in the press conference held by Furkan Volunteers.
01:17:52It was a press conference, and there was no situation that warranted such a harsh police intervention.
01:17:56Let's underline this: Furkan Volunteers.
01:17:58So far, since their leader Alparslan Kuitul and his wife Semra Kuitul were arrested, they have not resorted to any acts of violence.
01:18:06They hadn't applied in the previous process either.
01:18:08Such a harsh intervention in a press conference is incomprehensible.
01:18:13We thank our viewer for reminding us of this action by the Adana Police Department.
01:18:17Dear viewers, we asked what you think about some names being overshadowed during the funding crisis.
01:18:22Let's relay the answers you gave.
01:18:23Those who chose to remain in love, citing it as a normal trade secret, made up 9% of the votes.
01:18:2866% of respondents cited political connections as the reason, meaning that political connections are the reason it remains in the shadows.
01:18:35Only 3% of respondents said that no one is left in the shadows, everyone is out in the open.
01:18:38The percentage of those who say negotiations are ongoing is 22%.
01:18:42It was one of those questions that didn't have a single right answer.
01:18:44We were curious to hear your opinion.
01:18:46So the perception is that the vast majority of the public thinks this way regarding the funding crisis.
01:18:51There are those with political connections, which is why these names, especially those brought up today by Deniz Yavuz Yılmaz, a member of the new party, are relevant here.
01:18:58There are 12 people, those 12 people that economist Erda Sağlam also mentioned, and perhaps other names as well, why one...
01:19:04It wasn't said all at once, or perhaps the reason we're talking about a phased operation is due to political connections.
01:19:10And we're not just talking about deputy ministers, dear viewers.
01:19:14The spouses of the ministers are involved, as is the spouse of the former deputy minister.
01:19:18Of course, political connections can be discussed in a situation like this, but hopefully this funding crisis won't be entirely borne by society.
01:19:25Because the majority of the cost will, of course, be passed on to the citizens.
01:19:28Hopefully, what's being discussed here is whether some of the profits made by those who made big speculative gains will be recalled.
01:19:35We hope such an approach will be followed.
01:19:37Thank you very much.
01:19:39We expect you at the agency every week at 4 PM Turkish time.
01:19:41We'll say we need to talk tomorrow, just for this week.
01:19:44And we will be discussing current issues with Prof. Dr. Cengiz Aktar.
01:19:47Let us also remind you of something as we say goodbye.
01:19:49Today is Transatlantic Day.
01:19:51Zafer Özsoy and Adem Yavuz Arslan are also waiting for you on their trip across the ocean.
01:19:54Goodbye.