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Senator-judge Bam Aquino questioned the defense on Vice President Sara Duterte’s role in Gencorp Industries Inc., which she declared in her SALN.

Aquino noted that the defense had yet to clarify Duterte’s role in the company, saying Gencorp’s corporate officers could provide the answer. The defense, however, said it would be premature to discuss the matter and would address it at the proper time.

Aquino concluded by saying that only Vice President Sara Duterte could explain her connection to Gencorp, which she declared in her SALN. (Video courtesy of Senate of the Philippines)


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00:00I would like to know what the role of Vice President Sara Duterte is in GenCorp.
00:08You really know this is our witness. You didn't know that?
00:12That's right.
00:13We know that Vice President Sara himself is the role of GenCorp in her salon.
00:22Is that correct, Attorney Irwin?
00:25Yes, Your Honor, for her 2024 and 2025 SAL-Ns.
00:30Meaning, the Vice President himself is the role of the company in SAL-N,
00:35that's why we know that it is an interest.
00:38But we don't know what the interest is.
00:42He is the role of the SAL-N, SH.
00:47SH?
00:49SH, which presupposes the stockholder.
00:53Okay.
00:54Pero wala siya sa GIS, correct?
00:56Tama ito?
00:57Tama po.
00:58Okay.
00:59So, sa palagay ko, merong confusion ngayon.
01:02Paikot-ikot tayo.
01:04Dalawang tao lang yung makakaalam kung ano talaga yung role niya.
01:07Siya mismo.
01:09So, let me ask Attorney Justin.
01:13Of course, ikaw na bahala kung alam mo itong sagot o kung sasagutin mo.
01:17So, ang kliyente ninyo, ang respondent, siya mismo yung naglagay ng GenCorp sa kanyang SAL-N.
01:25Ano nga ba ang kanyang role sa GenCorp?
01:28Your Honor, with all due respect, and while I understand where you're coming from, it would be premature for the
01:33defense to discuss those matters.
01:35Because currently, Your Honor, it is the prosecution's turn.
01:38And may we ask to refer this question to the presiding officer, since I believe the impeachment court is a
01:44passive body,
01:44and it should receive evidence at a timely time, at a timely part of the proceedings, which is at this
01:50point, Your Honor, premature.
01:52Apologies, Senator Josh.
01:52Yes, I was expecting that answer, Attorney Justin.
01:55Pero, ibabalikan ko lang yung nasabi ng mga Amici Q. Ray,
02:00na at the end of the day, itong korting ito, is sui generis,
02:05and we can follow our own path towards truth and fairness.
02:09That's why I'm giving you this option, but, ag sinasabi mo, you will probably answer this during your time.
02:14So, I respect that.
02:15That would be correct.
02:15The other person na pwede magsabi kung ano yung role ni Vice President Sara is, of course, GenCorp.
02:21Si GenCorp mismo.
02:22So, sino bang presidente ng GenCorp?
02:24Nasa, ano nyo po ba, Attorney Del Rosario?
02:27GenCorp.
02:28Sino po bang corporate officers ng GenCorp?
02:32Sa palagay ko, sila mismo pwede magsabi kung ano yung role ni Vice President Sara ito sa GenCorp.
02:40Who are the corporate officers? Who are the owners?
02:43Yes, Attorney Del Rosario.
02:48Ayon po sa GS ng GenCorp Industries,
02:55Ang president po ng nasabing corporation ay si Kimberly Justin Y. Cruz.
03:02Ang presidente.
03:04Ang treasurer ay si Richie Yvette L. Cruz.
03:09Treasurer.
03:09At ang secretary po nito ay si Kimberly S. Dela Cruz.
03:16Okay. So, any of them would be able to tell us ano ba ang role ni Vice President Sara Duterte
03:24dito as corporate officers? Tama po ba?
03:26Tama po.
03:27Okay.
03:28So, I leave that to the prosecution.
03:31Kasi lang nais natin malaman ano ba talaga ang role niya dito?
03:35It's possible.
03:36It could...
03:37Maybe it's...
03:38Maybe it could even be her husband.
03:40Hindi natin alam.
03:42Hindi natin alam.
03:42Diba?
03:42Tama ba?
04:09Uh...
04:10Thank you, Ud finally.
04:21Thank you Uda.
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