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00:00I think everyone involved knows how this works.
00:03Mostly I'm talking to you, Owen.
00:05I do, in fact, know how this works.
00:06Because I still really don't.
00:08I never talk about it properly because I'm an idiot
00:10and I don't know how numbers work, apparently.
00:13Well, anyway, if you have a strong feeling about any team at any spot,
00:19yell it out.
00:19You don't have to wait and defer to me.
00:21How early is too early?
00:23I mean...
00:24Miami!
00:24Okay, 16?
00:26Yeah, right?
00:28Miami.
00:29No?
00:30No, I'm not prepared to push back on Miami.
00:33Okay, very good.
00:33I'm glad I was not pushing the issue.
00:36I think that makes sense.
00:38Did you see, after their Week 2 game,
00:43the word salad from the coach about what their objectives are?
00:49I've not seen the video of him actually saying all these words,
00:52but reading them made me feel like I was in a figure-four leg lock.
00:57Yeah.
00:58Like, I'm paralyzed from the waist down and can no longer move.
01:02Like, what is going on here?
01:04Like, such efforts being made to try to defend what they're doing,
01:09which is clearly trying to not be very good at all.
01:12I was watching that game on Sunday, just little bits and pieces,
01:16and, you know, at Borderland, we were in the stall with Drew, my best friend,
01:19and I said to him, name a single Dolphin on this team right now.
01:23And it took them 10 minutes to get to Malik Willis.
01:27They've got nobody on the team.
01:29No.
01:29They've got nobody.
01:30They're a really bad roster.
01:31It's unbelievable.
01:34All right, so Miami, back at 16.
01:38They were 15th last year.
01:40It was Cleveland.
01:41But, you know, Cleveland's looking for a big climb.
01:43I mean, yeah.
01:44Or drop.
01:45How do we?
01:46This would be drop.
01:4715.
01:48I think Tennessee.
01:49Yeah.
01:49Good effort, but you played on the surface of the sun, and you still lost.
01:54I was thinking Tennessee would be the picket.
01:58Yeah, I've got no qualm with that.
02:04Yeah, just close.
02:06You know, I'm still waiting for a Cam Ward.
02:09I know.
02:10It's not going to happen.
02:11I know.
02:12We're both in the same boat.
02:13I don't know if we talked about him at some point in college,
02:16and that's why we both like him while we were watching some game,
02:19but we both like him, and we've both just been sitting,
02:21waiting for something to happen.
02:23Every Sunday watching on Red Zone going, oh, no, another game has passed.
02:26Not really happening.
02:28Okay, 14.
02:32I'm going to say Jets.
02:35I just don't know what else to do with anyone else ahead of them right now.
02:40Yeah.
02:41Or below them, however this works.
02:45I mean, I know they're 1-1, and they barely lost here in Week 2,
02:48but I feel like I trust the other teams that might be in play here.
02:55The Colts, maybe.
02:57The Chargers.
02:58I still think there's more there with those teams,
03:02even though their records are worse right now.
03:07Yeah, I think the Chargers are a real disaster,
03:10but I just don't see the Jets finding their way to being better than the Chargers this year.
03:18I just can't convince myself of that right now.
03:21So Jets at 14.
03:22Yeah.
03:2313.
03:24This is where I think Chargers.
03:26I would love to put the Chargers here.
03:28I mean, we talked Mike McDaniel, but, like, that's not working,
03:31and it's becoming apparent, too.
03:33In his time in San Francisco, he had a ton of talent.
03:35Debo Samuels in his prime.
03:36I think he had a little bit with McCaffrey.
03:38And then, of course, Miami.
03:39It's the receivers and HN, and now Ladd McConkie with a flak jacket on.
03:46Like, that's what he has?
03:47Pretty much.
03:47It's not great.
03:48That is it.
03:49Yeah.
03:50It's tough.
03:50Tough time.
03:51Yeah, no speed.
03:52No Hill, no Waddle, no HN, and there's just nothing happening.
03:58So, yeah, I might have said Colts before them, just because I still,
04:04and a little bit is, you know, the Chargers are coming here,
04:07wounded animals, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all that stuff.
04:10Season on the line.
04:11Right, right, right.
04:12But fine, Chargers.
04:14I think I got to say, well, I don't know.
04:18I'm going to suggest Colts.
04:20Or do you want the Browns, maybe?
04:23I just got to go one or the other.
04:24I'll go Colts, just because at least Cleveland does have the bright moment against Tampa,
04:28which, I mean, I think that says more about Tampa than it does Cleveland.
04:31Baker's playing some of the worst football of his career.
04:34But the Colts can't stop anybody.
04:37No.
04:38Yeah.
04:38They're just giving up so many points.
04:40Yeah.
04:41I'm with you there.
04:42They're, like, they are, it's also just, like, an organizational thing with the Colts for me.
04:47Like, they are just in a bad, bad place with the picks they give up for Sauce Gardner,
04:52and the defense stinks.
04:53And, like, I got, ugh.
04:56I would not want to be the Colts right now.
04:57I would not want to be the Colts right now.
04:59So, yeah, I'm cool with them here.
05:0311, I'm going to suggest Cleveland here.
05:05Yeah, Browns.
05:06They can't rise any more than that, I don't think.
05:08You know what is, really strikes me about them right now is that, I mean, they got that win,
05:16and what kind of gymnastics are Browns fans already, that, you know, this would be happening
05:23if it were here, right?
05:25We're nowhere with this guy.
05:27We hate this guy.
05:27Even leave the, you know, the 30 sexual assault lawsuit allegations, all that.
05:34Leave that by the side of the road.
05:36The guy's terrible.
05:37He sounds like he has no idea what to say when he talks, and he has a decent game,
05:45and you are riding in your car to work on Monday going, like, I don't know,
05:49maybe if he can string a couple of these together.
05:51And, like, is there a worse existence on earth as a sports fan than that?
05:55No.
05:56It's got to be the worst.
05:57I think it's a worse case scenario than winning this game.
05:59Because Mike's brought it up.
06:01We've talked about it.
06:02They go 0-2, first home game.
06:04Shadrush Sanders.
06:05He's the starter.
06:06Perfect.
06:06We're done with Deshaun Watson now.
06:08Yeah.
06:09He can't.
06:10I mean, Monken had a freakout at the podium, too, really banging the drum.
06:13Right.
06:13He's locked in.
06:14It, it, it, it, they put, they saved themselves from next week being a nightmare.
06:21Like, their next game being a nightmare with Trotting Watson out there, but they've just
06:24extended it.
06:25And it's just going to be.
06:26Because it's still coming.
06:28It's still going to be.
06:30He's burying out two times in the first quarter, and, like, it's just over.
06:33Exactly.
06:33And, and you fooled yourself into giving him another week, and it's just, oh, gosh.
06:39I'd say something really trite, like, fare thee well, Browns, but I don't even want any
06:43well-faring for thee.
06:45Not really.
06:46If that even makes sense.
06:48All right.
06:48Anyway, 10.
06:49Pittsburgh.
06:51Pittsburgh.
06:52That offense is 35 years old.
06:55Yeah.
06:55Yeah.
06:56Nobody.
06:57Yeah.
06:59They, they, Rogers, my God, does he ever look like he wants to get in a hole?
07:08Yeah.
07:09It's unbelievable.
07:10And DK Metcalf can't get from football anymore?
07:12Watching, watching different, like, I, I, I really, I tried.
07:15The, the, the, the stream where we were on Sunday at Borderland, for some reason, on
07:20the, the feed of that game kept cutting in and out, whereas Red Zone was way more stable,
07:25so I was just like, okay, I'm just going to watch Red Zone, which is fine.
07:28I probably would have done that anyway, even without the feed being a problem, because that
07:31game was really hard to watch.
07:34Every highlight I've seen is more funny than the last.
07:38Like, there's, there's, Rogers is directing these, he's, like, the whole playcock, clock,
07:45clock, sorry folks, uh, uses the whole play clock, directing traffic, yelling out instructions,
07:51and the offensive linemen are looking behind them like they have no idea what he's talking
07:54about, and then the ball is snapped, and he gets struck by, like, two guys who just come
07:59right up the middle, and it's just, it's just the most inept-looking thing ever.
08:04It's, it's awful.
08:05The best part of Rogers this season, and we're only through week two, will be the tell-all
08:09podcast he did right before the season started.
08:11Oh, yeah.
08:12That's going to be, that's going to be the highlight of the season.
08:15Yeah, it's just a, like, the fact that they hired McCarthy, too, just adds on to, like,
08:22why are you catering to, to the guy that's going to be here for another year that you didn't
08:28even think was going to be here this year?
08:30It's the best thing Aaron Glenn did was, like, have him come into his office and go,
08:33we're good.
08:34Yeah, like, sorry, I'm done.
08:35I'm sorry, I'm done.
08:36We're done here.
08:37See you later.
08:38All right, so Pittsburgh at 10.
08:40Nine Raiders?
08:41I mean, this is insane.
08:43They're, they're, they're, they're close to, I know, I know they're 2-1-0.
08:48Come on.
08:49Yeah.
08:50Right?
08:51No, I'm with you.
08:52Yeah, no.
08:54They cannot be.
08:56Prediction.
08:57I mean, I have some say in this, so whatever, I'm not going to, they're going to be
09:00going to be accepting wagers on it.
09:01This is as low as they'll be all year.
09:05The Raiders.
09:06They're ninth, they're ninth today, and there is no way to me they will get any lower than
09:10this.
09:11Yeah, it seems like it would be.
09:12That's right.
09:12Pretty difficult.
09:14Okay.
09:15Eight.
09:18Texans?
09:19Hmm.
09:21They're 0-2, and the offense looks shaky when they're not playing the Bills in the first
09:26game.
09:28But really, I mean, it's, it's Nico Collins.
09:30If he's not there, I mean, look, I have Dalton Schultz in fantasy.
09:33That was really cool.
09:33That was nice.
09:34He had like 12 catches for 140 yards.
09:36It was all in garbage time.
09:37It didn't mean anything.
09:39There's no vertical threat there.
09:41The offensive line's really bad.
09:43Yeah.
09:44Yeah, they, they, they look.
09:45You guys are both on Houston here?
09:46I'm cool with that.
09:47Okay.
09:48That's how I won't bother.
09:49Yeah, all right.
09:50You know, positing a pitch because I'm already outvoted if I, you know, I don't object hugely or
09:55anything.
09:55I'm just, just, you know.
09:56Is this like chess where I take my hand off the piece and I'm done?
09:59I can't switch?
10:01I'm not asking because I want to.
10:03No, mostly.
10:03Yeah.
10:04In fact, if you, it's part of the reason I didn't want to suggest a team that wasn't
10:08going to be in the spot, because once you do that, the way we try to play it is like,
10:12then that's your pick for the next spot.
10:14Ah, like, so if I, if I, if I would have said just now, um, I don't know who, New
10:20England,
10:21New England, then I sort of locked into New England for the next spot.
10:24Sure.
10:26So anyway, Houston at eight, seven, New England.
10:29Yeah.
10:30How's that?
10:32I, um, I, I short piece from our buddy Mike Giardi with Boston Sports Journal today that
10:37I saw and mostly it's just Drake may doesn't look right.
10:43I don't know what's going on, but it just doesn't look right.
10:46If I was a Patriots fan, I think he's hurt.
10:48There's no zip on the ball anymore.
10:50Or, or I got fooled.
10:53Absolutely could have.
10:54Or I got fooled by a guy that got an awesome first year, like schedule to like, just really
10:59tee it up in confidence and like, and then that gets taken away.
11:03Oh man, he made some great throws here against the Bills.
11:08Like there's no way that it, the way the ball's coming out of his hand now does not, that
11:13the play to digs late in the game they won here last year is like rolling out of pressure
11:20on a line at the sideline.
11:23I mean, it's just witchcraft type throw and that's just not there this year.
11:27And that is not, that can't be mental.
11:30It's got to be physical.
11:31It's so early, so I, I'm using this as an example of like maybe down the road, but Wentz
11:36in his second year, Carson Wentz, unbelievable for the Eagles, 33 touchdowns, seven picks
11:40demon on third down.
11:42He picks up some injuries.
11:43He has a few good seasons after that, but Philly's pretty comfortable to move off of
11:48them.
11:48I think by year five or year six.
11:51Yeah.
11:51I did.
11:51I, I said to Brad to start our show today.
11:55I, I'm not even thinking about them and it's, we're two weeks in and I almost feel a little
12:00dirty saying that, but I, I don't even like, I, Ooh, that's tempting.
12:09I don't think I could get all the way there.
12:12The fact, the fact that the bill started four and Oh last year in New England was wonky.
12:15They lost to the Raiders.
12:16And then came in here a game back, beat us.
12:20And we never caught them all year is still in my head.
12:23Like we're playing them.
12:24The bills are playing them soon enough here that I can't just bury them yet, but whatever.
12:32They're seven.
12:32They're, they're in a playoff spot.
12:34So I mean, congrats on that.
12:35Right.
12:35They can't take that away from them.
12:37Um, all right, six, I, anybody have a strong, I want to say Ravens.
12:46I kind of want to go Denver.
12:48Ooh, I'm listening to that.
12:49Good game against Jacksonville.
12:51I can't get that first game against the chiefs out of my mind.
12:54I, I don't, I don't, I already don't love Bo Nix.
12:56I think he's very limited ceiling wise.
12:59They have the new play caller.
13:00I wonder how much, how long Sean Payton's going to want to just be a CEO.
13:03I like this better than Baltimore.
13:05I think I rush Baltimore.
13:07I like Denver here.
13:09Cause they, I think that the Payton web, uh, dynamic is just like waiting to get lit on fire.
13:17And that can be sketchy.
13:19I don't love Nix either.
13:20I think he's impressive, but there's just moments where he just looks.
13:25Nah.
13:26There's only so much I think he can do.
13:27Yeah.
13:28And, and so I, I, I like Denver here too.
13:30Uh, that defense is legit, but I don't think legit enough to make up for issues.
13:36Okay.
13:37It is written Denver at six, five.
13:43Jacksonville.
13:45Jacksonville.
13:45I know Denver just beat them, but I think, I think Jacksonville is more talented.
13:49I don't want them above anybody else we've got left right now.
13:52So yeah, I like Jacksonville here.
13:54I, I, they're, I like them.
13:56I think they're good.
13:57I think Cohen is awesome and Lawrence is good enough to be great.
14:02If he's got a coach like that and weapons like he's got.
14:05So I like them, but I don't like them better than any of the other teams above them right now.
14:13Four.
14:16I think I like Baltimore here.
14:19It's late game.
14:21Fumbles.
14:22Okay.
14:23Yeah.
14:23Late game fumbles are not just Harbaugh's thing, are they?
14:25Yeah.
14:26Yeah.
14:26Okay.
14:27Yeah.
14:27I like, I think Baltimore too.
14:29I like them a little better than, than Denver and Jacksonville, but like that week one Lamar
14:34was like, I'm going to be seeing that in my nightmares.
14:38If I, if we're talking about a playoff matchup or whatever, like that, it was really, really,
14:44really, really impressive.
14:45Well, it all comes down to this.
14:47Here we are.
14:48This, this feels like a throwback to like, I don't know, 21 or 22.
14:52Yeah.
14:52So Bills, Chiefs, Bengals are the three teams left on the board.
14:58What do we, what do we, Bengals three?
15:01I'm going to go Kansas City.
15:02I don't like them at all, except for Kenneth Walker.
15:05I think they've got a really soft schedule early.
15:08They'll almost certainly be five and oh.
15:10And I don't, I, I, I think a lot of people are rushing to crown them again.
15:13Man, I, they can't pass the ball down the field consistently at all.
15:18Kelsey's 108.
15:20Good job.
15:21You had a hundred yards against the Colts.
15:22Right.
15:22They had two other 80 yard guys on.
15:25I don't know, man.
15:26It looked pretty good to me on Sunday night, but maybe it's the Colts.
15:30All right.
15:31I, I, I'm going to, I don't like this.
15:34I, I'm going to put Kansas City here, but I don't like it.
15:37Uh, I, I agree, but I, I, like my homes looked good.
15:41He looked much better than week one.
15:43Week one, I was like, nah, it's fine.
15:45It's fine.
15:45It's fine.
15:45I could not get to, it's fine last, on Sunday night.
15:50I also want to say, don't call two run plays after you complete a deep bomb to Laquan Treadwell.
15:55Yeah, there's that.
15:55Also true.
15:56In overtime.
15:56I like my homes in week one.
15:58I knew they could, I know they couldn't throw the ball.
15:59Yeah.
16:00But I thought he was.
16:02Efficient.
16:03Yeah.
16:03It just, the, the fact that he ran, like he ran was just enough for me to go like, okay,
16:09yeah, okay, I, you're back.
16:10I got it.
16:11Yeah.
16:11So I, um, I'm, I'm a little, whatever.
16:15They're second or third.
16:16It's not like they're falling apart here.
16:18Bengals at two.
16:20Buffalo.
16:23I, I'm really scared about the Bengals.
16:26I got to put Buffalo here.
16:28The defense is scaring me.
16:31The, I just, the, the, the, the bills.
16:33I know.
16:33I already wrote Cincinnati.
16:35Oh, wow.
16:36I just, I just, I, I, I, I, I, I'll cross it.
16:39What do we do now?
16:40I'll cross it out.
16:41What do we do now?
16:42I will.
16:42I will cross it.
16:43I'll have, I'll have to, I, I, I rushed it.
16:46I just thought there was no way we, the three of us weren't going to end up with the bills
16:49at one.
16:50I want to put them one.
16:51I, I, and I.
16:52No, if you can't, you can't.
16:53I mean, that's fine.
16:55Sorry, everybody.
16:56The Bengals won?
16:57My, my problem is, like, I already think the 31 points given up against Detroit is a little
17:02misleading.
17:02It's like Detroit did in 24 where they scored at the last minute to make the score look
17:06a little nicer.
17:07I think the bills ultimately gave up 24 real points to them.
17:11That secondary is having a hard time to start the year.
17:15The defensive line isn't getting a ton of pressures, but they're getting home.
17:18It doesn't look that bad.
17:19No, it's fine.
17:21Mike will judge you for it.
17:22No, I, I, well, I expect.
17:23To be judged.
17:24I mean, that, that's fine.
17:25That, that's its own kind of content.
17:26I feel dirty.
17:28So that'll, that'll work.
17:29I mean, I'm the one, I'm the one, you know, we've never, the three, this was the first
17:33time the three of us have ever done this exercise.
17:35I should not have made assumptions about what was going to, was going to happen.
17:39It's a totally on me.
17:40All right.
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17:53Owen Parker, thank you for your extra time today.
17:56No problem.
17:57See you at home later.
17:58This isn't weird at all.
18:00Zach, good job.
18:01And anything, I'm planning on picking up on this, by the way, like it was, we always do
18:06reverse AFC power rankings in season on Tuesdays at two now to lead off the show.
18:11I kind of want to talk about, you know, who's a threat out there.
18:15You watched two weeks.
18:17We know it's premature.
18:18I don't need a preamble.
18:19And I also want to disqualify you from saying the thing I'm most worried about is the bills.
18:24Like, don't, don't give me that.
18:26Cause I mean, I, I could, I could do four hours without commercials on that if you wanted
18:30me to.
18:31So nobody wants to hear you say, oh, I'm worried about them.
18:33No.
18:34Who out there do you think is looking like, you know, a real problem for the bills?
18:39You know, assuming they can sort of stay on track here to this great start to the season
18:44they've had.
18:45That is what we'll be talking about.
18:46We get back from the break.
18:49Mike is away today.
18:50I am the Bulldog.
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