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00:00all them guests appear on the wise heart right we make it right call call right hotline we got
00:03three of them because we go around the afc north for week three and we stop in baltimore first who
00:09are on their way to brazil for a 4 25 p.m waxing against the dallas cowboys ken wyman 1057
00:17the fan
00:17in baltimore you okay with the team playing in brazil well not when you hear all these stories
00:23about how bad the field is but the nfl is assuring everyone the field will be fine but i guess
00:28there's
00:28been a lot of rain down there yet uh i don't know i but hey that's that's that's a different
00:34conversation whether she was playing these games all over the world but it is what it is right well
00:38it's not even just that like okay the browns played at tampa last week okay and the one of the
00:43big
00:43conversations we had in the pre-game like i'm doing the pre-game with the guys who are calling the
00:47game
00:48on the radio and they're going yeah the track's bad sf or uh usf just played here they had i
00:53guess
00:54back-to-back nights you got a two-night event of bruto mars out here and they just re-sawed
00:58it i go
00:58why can't i i need to know from a landscaper this is an honest question why can't you just re
01:04-sawed in
01:05may why does it have to be done well we got a football game oh we got a football game
01:09coming
01:09up in a week what we have to re-sawed now oh you do well you know we're in the
01:14afc north so you know
01:15damn well we get this december and that field in pittsburgh is awful every single year because they're
01:20playing college games there and they're like every year they're playing pop warner games on that thing
01:25the roonies have a game of touch football played on it i mean they're gonna do it all all right
01:30so
01:30who are the real ravens good week one and then like week two or should we be just giving more
01:35respect to
01:36the new orleans saints i i guess the saints deserve some respect but this was like deja vu all over
01:42again
01:42for the ravens i guess we can't kick john harbaugh around anymore they they didn't give up a touchdown
01:46until the fourth quarter but the defense couldn't get off the field in the fourth quarter and
01:50uh you know they they have a third and one in the fourth quarter where they throw a deep ball
01:55but
01:55then don't go for it on fourth down they gave away three points at the end of the first half
02:00they
02:00scored a touchdown with 24 seconds left in the first half and instead of kicking it through the end zone
02:04and you know you know what happens after that but the essentially they run a draw play or just take
02:08a
02:08knee they kick it short and the guy runs it back past midfield and they get a field goal at
02:13the end of
02:13half there was some dumb stuff coaching wise i think declan doyle who got a lot of flowers week
02:18one for the offensive game plan against the colts kind of outsmarted himself against the saints uh
02:22so there's a lot of blame to go around i i think jesse mentor is going to get this thing
02:28fixed
02:28but i think a lot of ravens fans were suffering from btsd on sunday you know what it sounds like
02:33to me tone it sounds like all these ravens fans who wanted to call me a fat pig and a
02:37racist
02:37are right i don't know why the r-word had to get brought out there uh who but they couldn't
02:43prove
02:43me wrong no maybe they owe me an apology and you can't prove them wrong uh ken you guys i'm
02:50talking
02:51now to not the uh racist and the fat pig i'm talking to ken wyman wow 15 games uh baltimore
02:56has lost since 2021 when lead after three quarters we know about the double digit blown leads
03:01as well is any of that on the quarterback or is that all defense well the defense couldn't get
03:07off the field the saints were eight of 15 on third downs and two two on fourth down so that's
03:1210 for
03:1217 and a lot of those in the fourth quarter were like third and six or more a lot of
03:17missed tackling
03:18uh the offense had hey you have to take some of the blame there were what three three and outs
03:23in the
03:23fourth quarter but the defense has to make a play they've spent the second most money in the nfl on
03:29their defense i think only pittsburgh has spent more and at some point roquan smith or marlon humphrey
03:34or kyle hamilton or nate wiggins one of these guys is going to have to make a game-changing play
03:39but should lamar not get any blame uh that's not fair either what do you expect of the dallas cowboys
03:48hey their defense still poop what are you expecting yeah i i don't think the defense is very good but
03:55the
03:55offense is is good like the ravens they're their real defense needs to show up but again i've if
04:01zay flowers isn't going to play and we'll see like i do i want him on a bad hammy potentially
04:06playing on
04:06that field in rio i don't think so so don't outsmart yourself run derrick henry like derrick henry
04:12had five carries in the second half of that game sunday which is criminal uh just punch them in the
04:17mouth with derrick henry run some zone reads with lamar jackson and keep your keep their offense off the
04:23field i think that's a smart way to play it ken wyman 105.7 the fan in baltimore such a
04:28weird
04:29preview for that game coming up on sunday because it's like well the brazil games the foreign games
04:33just a different conversation so much let's go to jeff hobson senior writer bangles.com they're
04:39taking on pittsburgh in pittsburgh coming up sunday afternoon are we being a little bit too hard jeff on
04:46the 2-0 bangles in outside of cincinnati for the simple fact is that i gotta be honest with you
04:51i forgot
04:52that they started 2-0 i got so used to them starting like 1-2 or 0-2 and starting
04:56off in a
04:56hole and trying to dig out of it's like no they're they're on schedule right now all the things that
05:00joe burrow said before the season are coming to fruition jeff yeah well they're 2-0 and uh they
05:06really haven't done much on offense so i mean this is clearly a start that's been fueled by their
05:12defense i know the guy in baltimore said they spent a lot of money uh but the bangles during the
05:18offseason spent uh more than 200 million on their defense redoing it and so far uh it's been worth
05:25every penny well uh burrow got sacked five times in that game and obviously everyone's going to talk
05:31about one of the better catches we've ever seen with jamar chase but the offense has exactly looked
05:36like that well-oiled machine what do you think is missing right now i think it's just reps i think
05:42you
05:42know i mean i'm a dinosaur all right i'm an old guy uh six preseason games when everybody
05:48played in the preseason games i i think it's just the modern era the preseason is now extended
05:55into september and i think that can you can say that for most clubs particularly in offense it's
06:01just the calendar the way they structure the nfl now uh you know you know when the clock strikes uh
06:08when the calendar hits october uh you know the bangles usually get rolling so that the fact they're
06:142-0 before october i think bodes well for them do you still take aaron rogers seriously
06:22absolutely does he still have that uh thing hanging off his shoulder absolutely i mean uh um i you know
06:30i don't care i i uh think that you know his numbers tell you that he can get hot and
06:37uh you know
06:39been doing this for years the steelers always seem to have a bad game and get blown out or
06:45you have an awful offensive performance the week before they play the bangles and they go into uh
06:51and then they have a home game and they got that crowd they have the best home field record uh
06:56since the merger the only team that's won 70 percent of their games and they got a hall of fame
07:02quarterback oh yeah you have dexter lawrence rarely do we see an interior defensive lineman
07:09make such an impact where everybody's talking about it but it seems he's done that does he
07:14dominate other than joe burrow other than you know are they going back to the playoffs i mean how much
07:19conversation does he dominate within the fan base right now and the changes that they've made
07:23defensively by his presence i mean that's all we've been hearing about for the last two weeks i mean
07:28you know uh you know for the last month jonathan allen has been asked uh what influence does dexter
07:36lawrence have well you're looking at jonathan allen the guy had three and a half sacks last year
07:41he's got two already playing next to dexter lawrence so i mean he commands double teams he's got rookies
07:48like cassius howell one-on-one he's got uh the 60 million dollar super bowl edge rusher boy a mafe
07:56had 10 pressures 10 pressures uh uh in houston one guy alone 10 pressures mafe and that's strictly
08:06because you know dexter's taken all those double teams jeff hobson senior writer bengals.com as the
08:13bengals get set to take on the pittsburgh steelers in pittsburgh 1 p.m on sunday now let's go get
08:19the
08:19other side of things we go to 93 7 the fan in pittsburgh's chris muller who joins us right now
08:24are we going to
08:25see joey porter jr in a steelers jersey again no
08:31i just love i love knowing that when i give an answer i'm probably going to get that from you
08:39guys
08:39but it doesn't feel like it's ever going to happen here because and what is weird to me is everybody
08:46and their brother and the steelers even acknowledge this that there's this quote business component to
08:51the entire proceeding and yet they keep giving him cover to say it's an injury so that he can
08:58keep collecting paychecks and possibly go on ir by saying oh yeah his back flared up a little bit like
09:04from a business standpoint you can tell mike mccarthy hates answering these questions and isn't used to
09:11doing it because in dallas jerry jones just ran the whole show in that sense because he just keeps
09:16stepping on rakes every time he actually tries to talk about it all right chris uh i came out with
09:22what i believe what i thought was a hot take and then some people said it wasn't such a hot
09:25take
09:26that given all that comes along with aaron rogers and we know what that means all the podcasts recently
09:35it seems like a lot of deflecting doing your own research i don't mind someone doing their own
09:40research i think that's responsible kenny but maybe he needs to do his own research something like
09:44asking grok or what well i don't know what he does specifically um but i do know draw your own
09:50read do your own research draw your own conclusion i do know that my take over the last few days
09:55was
09:56i think you guys would be in a better spot if you picked up another 40 plus year old quarterback
10:01in joe
10:02flacco because he would seamlessly fit in he would do what the coach tells him and he'd be able to
10:07go
10:07vertical and he could take some hits i mean i i think that's absolutely like a plausible uh take
10:15to have and i don't even think like i could i could poke holes in it right now the offensive
10:19line is bad
10:20but flacco is a big dude who is willing to stand in there and try to deliver the football like
10:25he
10:25wants to attack downfield even at 40 plus years old rogers wants to get rid of the football and in
10:31week one i'll give him a pass because dk metcalf was terrible and dropped a bunch of passes which he
10:35did
10:35again against the patriots uh in this game though like the there was one shot he probably had down
10:41field to jeremy bernard that he could have taken and he just dumped the ball off and it's a throw
10:46that like even 38 year old aaron rogers would have would have tried to make and probably made it was
10:51one of those rolling left like flip it up to the back pylon and see if your guy goes and
10:55gets it
10:56he didn't even attempt it and i don't think he wants to get hit he almost got as a one
11:01former
11:01steelers lineman said a backy out of me because he got hit so hard from the blind side in that
11:06game
11:06i just think that this is going to have a short shelf life if it continues a pace and honestly
11:10i think if you pulled steelers fans tone it would be pulling it well over 70 percent of people who
11:17really are going what are we even doing here why did this happen like two games in and one game
11:21against a real team and a real defense and then getting more or less dog walk that entire time
11:26i think has kind of it's like pulled off the scooby-doo mask you know what i mean it's like
11:31oh yeah no this is the aaron rogers you thought you were getting no no this is the playoff game
11:36against the texans aaron rogers from last year but then to bring him in then have to bring mike
11:40mccarthy in because of that it just seems like you're doubling down on something we all 100 percent
11:47of people know in the nfl is not going to work and we're accused of it by starting to sean
11:51watson
11:52but i don't know i don't think todd munkin was hired just because of deshaun watson you guys
11:57hired a coach over this i mean at least everybody in cleveland can be an adult about it and say
12:04that
12:04like jimmy haslam is falling victim in in some sense to the sunk cost fallacy and he just wants
12:11to get something for his money there was no reason to do this if you're the steelers they talked when
12:16tomlin stepped down about how this already got straight up asked like is this it for aaron rogers
12:21he goes yeah i think you can pretty much assume that then rogers apparently told them that they
12:26should talk to mccarthy they talked to mccarthy it sounds like they wanted to hire him all along
12:31because they really went through two sham interviews to satisfy the rooney rule ironically enough
12:36and then hired him and so then they hire him who do you want to coach at quarterback i don't
12:41know
12:41probably the guy who recommended me even though when we last parted company it was on horrible terms
12:45like it just it really is a franchise spinning its wheels and you had jeff hobson on just now and
12:51it's so funny because that franchise the bengals usually gets criticized for just being somewhat
12:55directionless and stepping on rakes all the time they make a bold trade they get dexter lawrence
13:01they've got a future hall of famer receiver and a future hall of fame talent at least a quarterback
13:06in in burrow and they're actually making something of it they actually did something different and
13:10the steelers are essentially just playing the same song with slightly different people on the
13:14instruments chris muller laying down the law at 93 so well why did he even bother coming back
13:21which got aaron roger yeah i mean would he just be happier being retired and doing god knows what
13:27i mean he obviously has other interests he likes to do them while camp is going on so
13:32i mean i think that he still likes the check which is what 20 i don't even remember 22 25
13:38million
13:38yeah but he can make a lot of money doing a lot of other things i mean it just seems
13:41like he just
13:42doesn't love the game but guys remember he told us he told us in a very believable statement that
13:46when he's done playing football he's going to retire and you're never going to see him again
13:50which is complete horse crap and we all know it um i i don't know like i don't think it's
13:55it's nothing
13:56that his final game was so pathetic last year in the playoffs and that his if he hadn't come back
14:02his final nfl pass would have been a pick six where he's just like flailing all over the place
14:08and getting clobbered trying to make a tackle i don't think that's like the exclusive reason he came
14:12back but i don't think it's like a zero percent cause of it either so let me let me paint
14:18worst
14:18case scenario for you who do you pick to win sunday do you pick them in the bangles you probably
14:23pick the bangles i'm picking the bangles yeah i think the bangles are better say they lose on
14:27sunday they come to cleveland next thursday night and they lose to deshaun watson and the cleveland
14:33browns is there a serious discussion about moving on to rudolph or one of the pups
14:39unless they lose both games like 41 to 38 and rogers is cooking and the defense is getting
14:45cooked which i don't think will happen because the one thing i will say about them is their defense
14:50under patrick graham has been pretty darn good so far through two games if they lose the way they've
14:55lost they lost this game against the patriots in similar fashion uh i think i don't think there
15:00will be a serious conversation because i think there's a little organizational cowardice but there
15:05absolutely should be strong conversation right there all right chris muller 93 7 the fan in
15:13pittsburgh organizational cowardice does that get out of the board that's a pretty good one it's pretty
15:19damn good one coming up at 8 40 matt dairy going to join us on the show he is one
15:25half the dairy
15:25brothers guardians cast because i want to ask you one thing about aaron rogers as we come back