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00:00Sports Radio 550.
00:04Sad is back in the rotation.
00:08With the camel?
00:09That commercial?
00:10Oh yeah, I did, yeah, I saw, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:13I saw that with the duo, the mandolin and guitar player, the little folk duo.
00:22Yeah.
00:22Yeah.
00:24You know, I can see that ad, and almost for as well, we've been playing that open.
00:30I forgot what it's even for.
00:32Well, I'm not going to say.
00:34Okay.
00:34Although, you know what, I'm going to reverse that, because we use it every week.
00:40It's a Geico ad.
00:41It is, okay.
00:42That makes sense, I just wasn't sure, which I always find interesting when I know the
00:47content of the ad, but am not really sure what it's for.
00:53Yeah, I mean.
00:54Or who it's for.
00:54Dangerous subjects.
00:56A lot of these insurance commercials are pretty creative, but I can't always tell
01:00you at the end what, which one it was, like, you know what I mean?
01:04Like, the guy with the ostrich, and then they got the dog park, and like, I don't know which
01:11ones are which anymore.
01:12Especially when they're animals.
01:13I love that dog park one.
01:15I think that dog park one is, like, low-key, super cool.
01:18I love it.
01:19It's the song.
01:19Yeah.
01:20Yeah, the song is great, and even it stops, and then the guy's on the phone.
01:24You sound like you're in a wind tunnel.
01:28It's really good.
01:30Yeah, my dog loves the dog park ad, too.
01:33Perks right up.
01:34Yeah.
01:35Jumps off the couch, sprints to the television, jumps up and down, and barks at it, and then
01:40without fail, ends up spinning around, chasing her tail.
01:43That's what always happens.
01:45Every time there's a dog on television.
01:47Well, in an ever-changing world, you can count on that.
01:50Well, I missed reverse AFC power rankings, apparently.
01:57And Cincinnati?
02:01I would like to extend an apology.
02:06That was not my doing.
02:07You notice?
02:09There's a crossout.
02:10There's a crossout.
02:10Because we got to the end.
02:12It was Owen.
02:13Owen stayed late.
02:15I still hold some sway.
02:17So he stayed late to participate.
02:19And so it was the three of us, Zach, myself, and Owen.
02:22And we got to the end there.
02:25The last two teams left were Cincinnati and Buffalo.
02:27And I wrote Cincinnati in, assuming these two guys were both going to want Buffalo up top.
02:32And they both disagreed.
02:34So I had to cross it out.
02:35On what basis?
02:38Uh, I don't know.
02:40They beat the Texans by more?
02:41Yeah, maybe.
02:42Yeah, they didn't give up 31 points to Houston.
02:47I don't know.
02:49I'm not exactly recalling what the reasoning was.
02:53But, yeah.
02:54They were still, right?
02:56I'm not portraying this inaccurately.
02:58Am I, Zach?
02:59No, I don't think we dove into it.
03:00I mean, yeah, their performance against Houston is better.
03:02But Houston didn't have Nico Collins, which probably played a factor into it.
03:06It's just more, I know what Cincinnati's offense can do.
03:11And if their defense is playing like that with Dexter Lawrence, and it does look better,
03:14I currently trust their defense more than Buffalo's.
03:18All right, there it is.
03:19I think, and I'm not blaming anybody else for this, because I've maybe even made a career
03:25out of it.
03:25But I think we try so hard to not get carried away with the Bills.
03:31Like, we try so hard.
03:32I mean, would anybody, it wouldn't be unanimous.
03:36How many people out of 100 would rather be the Bengals than the Bills?
03:42I wouldn't.
03:43And I'm bullish on Cincinnati this year.
03:46You know that.
03:46I mean, I have been for months.
03:49I thought the defense could get better.
03:51I thought the whole thing in the offseason about how bad they're still going to be on
03:54defense was kind of lazy and left over.
03:58Let me pull this box of mac and cheese from last night's restaurant visit out and microwave
04:04it, and there, there's my take.
04:06There's a day-old mac and cheese microwaved.
04:09I thought they'd be better, and sure enough, well, so far they are.
04:12We'll see if it's sticky.
04:14But yeah, no, I know.
04:16I really thought, that's why I wrote it down.
04:19I don't think anybody in the conference has looked better than the Bills, even with the
04:23defensive issues they've had, because they have given up a lot of points.
04:28I mean, this game this week, I think, is a big test for that, because the Chargers have
04:32not been able to do much of anything against terrible opposition, and if they come in here
04:38and score 30, like, I would be like, okay, I hope it gets better by December, will, I
04:45think, be a very popular refrain.
04:48I have a, it's been two days.
04:51I mean, I missed yesterday.
04:53I still have the same kind of instincts about this game on Sunday, which is, I wouldn't
04:58want to bet on it, because I just could not bet LA, the way they look, on the road, one
05:06o'clock start.
05:07I mean, I just don't think I could do it.
05:09But the Bills are just too obvious.
05:12Like, they're just cooking, and the Chargers are the story of the league for how bad they've
05:16been.
05:16The official PFF panic meter, quote, very high.
05:22Very high.
05:23That's on the Chargers.
05:24Nothing more creative than that.
05:25They were the only team to rate as very high, from what I saw.
05:30Atlanta got expectedly high.
05:33Okay.
05:34So, I'm not sure if that's even panic, or something, maybe Miami got that.
05:38Miami might have gotten that.
05:39Somebody got that.
05:40Very high, though, for LA.
05:42So, it's just like a, I mean, it's super buster.
05:45I mean, it's, yeah, it's a sitting buster.
05:48It's the picture of the buster dictionary.
05:50It is.
05:51It's on the cover.
05:51It's an all-time, all-time buster.
05:53It's on the cover of the buster books.
05:56Might replace Buster Brown as the all-time buster.
05:58It might.
05:59I mean, do you want to test that?
06:03I don't know.
06:05Cincinnati, okay.
06:06I mean, I get it.
06:08The Chargers, how did they do?
06:10How high were you willing to go on them?
06:14Can you read it?
06:15Yeah, I can.
06:16I got it.
06:16They were 13th.
06:18Okay.
06:18Pretty high.
06:19Yeah.
06:20Above the Raiders, probably, who beat them.
06:23Yes.
06:23That is right.
06:24Yeah.
06:25You could just look at it.
06:25I was a little, yeah, the Raiders were all the way into ninth, which I said, we'll see.
06:32I mean, I have a say in this.
06:33I have one-third say all year long, provided I don't miss any of these.
06:38How could you miss?
06:39They will not be lower than that all year.
06:42This is...
06:42So this is nowhere to go but up?
06:44This is Vegas, you know, cresting the wave.
06:47They're on the board.
06:48The wave looks great.
06:50The TV coverage looks great.
06:51All the people on the shore are like, wow, look at this.
06:53And, like, the poor Raiders on the surfboard do not see the wave collapsing behind them
07:01and it's about to swallow them and, like, tip them, you know.
07:04You're pretty sure.
07:05Yes, I'm pretty sure.
07:06At New Orleans.
07:11I love the Saints.
07:12You love the Saints.
07:14Tyler Shug.
07:16You sound like it.
07:16My fantasy savior, Tyler Shug.
07:18You sound like it.
07:19Yeah.
07:19The line is three.
07:24Saints?
07:24Favorite.
07:25Okay.
07:25At New Orleans.
07:26I had to make sure.
07:27I don't know.
07:29I don't know what expectations were for either of these teams coming into the year.
07:32The Raiders have Kansas City in week four in Las Vegas.
07:36And then at the Patriots and the Bills are there.
07:40And we're there.
07:41That's right.
07:42We are there.
07:43They haven't...
07:44The one thing I...
07:44I haven't seen any of their...
07:47Either of their games at all.
07:48I haven't seen more than a couple of plays from either of their games.
07:52They haven't had Bowers yet.
07:54And that'll change soon.
07:57Maybe even this week.
07:58And that's interesting because he's so good.
08:02And he's a unique matchup for teams.
08:05Like, there's not a lot of Bowers.
08:07You know, basically you're talking about playing against St. Brown or somebody.
08:10Like, you watch them on tape, you won't see them.
08:12And so now he comes back.
08:14If he's healthy, that could be really interesting if teams have a tough time.
08:19And Gentry's been good through two games, too.
08:22It's going to make it tough for them to put Mendoza in this way.
08:26Because you're not going to do it if they're winning.
08:29And, you know, eventually you're telling me that will end.
08:32I'm expecting that to end.
08:33I mean, I could be wrong.
08:35I kind of like it if they stayed good.
08:37The Raiders.
08:37You know, it's just been forever since they've been anything.
08:41And I kind of want to see them be scrappy.
08:46Yeah, I'm not feeling that at all.
08:49No.
08:49Okay.
08:50Get them out of the way.
08:51I'm just not.
08:51I don't really care.
08:53I don't like her cousins much at all.
08:57There was a few weeks a few summers ago where he was one of the three or four subjects in
09:04that Netflix series, the debut of that.
09:06And I was like, you're going to make me like her cousins.
09:09That's what is happening here.
09:10You're going to make me like her cousins.
09:11And that wore off.
09:13And I'm grateful for that.
09:14I was able to reset the console and get back to like, no.
09:19I'm not a fan of Kirk Cousins.
09:21Okay.
09:22I have one of those eight-team division winner parlays that is now offering me a profit.
09:29Is this the one that you sent me, the four cents profit?
09:33So was that yesterday?
09:35Did I send you that yesterday?
09:36I don't remember.
09:37I know I saw it.
09:37I think I did because we would have talked about it and we haven't talked about it.
09:40Okay.
09:41Yes.
09:41This is a $10 bet that I made in here.
09:45I made four of them one day.
09:46This is before the 10 with my family.
09:50Right.
09:50The four that are mine.
09:52And it was a $10 bets.
09:55And yesterday or Monday, the cash out was $10 and four cents.
10:00And I just sent you a picture of that because it's hilarious.
10:02Right.
10:02Like, should I take the four cents?
10:03Don't spend it all in one place.
10:05You never know.
10:06Right.
10:07Today, we're up to $11.70.
10:10Oh, boy.
10:10Oh, boy.
10:10It might have even gone up again.
10:12So New Orleans, is New Orleans in this one?
10:14Yes.
10:17And it's not going to be easy.
10:18Yeah.
10:19No, I know.
10:20$10.
10:23Dallas is in this one.
10:24That's right.
10:25Feel free to advise, do I take the $11.78 or do I play it out?
10:32It's only two weeks into the season.
10:34Have you got Cincinnati in this one?
10:36Okay.
10:36That's a reason why they're 2-0.
10:40And you have the Chiefs in this one?
10:42Denver.
10:43Oh, okay.
10:44All right.
10:44Still.
10:44You know, not certainly alive.
10:46I need to be said.
10:47They were bigger odds.
10:49Yeah.
10:49Even though they won last year.
10:50Right.
10:51Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:51Yeah.
10:51That makes sense.
10:52Bills.
10:54Okay.
10:54Bengals.
10:55San Francisco.
10:56Yes.
10:57Mm-hmm.
10:58How does that look?
11:00I mean.
11:00Okay.
11:01At least they got a head-to-head already on the Rams.
11:04Right.
11:05Road win.
11:05Right.
11:06Oh, that's right.
11:08That's a Rams home game.
11:09So, yeah.
11:11That tracks.
11:12Yeah.
11:13Bills.
11:13Bengals.
11:14Jacksonville, Denver.
11:16Jacksonville looks pretty good.
11:17Yeah.
11:18So far.
11:19Yeah.
11:19Even though they have a loss.
11:20Houston being down helps them.
11:23You know, if Houston stays down, that obviously makes it a lot easier for Jacksonville.
11:27Dallas, Green Bay, New Orleans, San Francisco.
11:32Mm-hmm.
11:33Do I take $11.78 or do we let it ride?
11:38The payout is $92,560.
11:40I would still play for the $92,000.
11:43I think I will.
11:44If I were you.
11:45That, I think, is the play.
11:47I could use, like, a double cheeseburger somewhere for $11.
11:50That is where you want to be.
11:52I'll eat something else.
11:53Yeah.
11:53And really, it's not, you know, you would get the $11, but you already put the $10 in.
11:57So, you know, there's no dollar cheeseburger anywhere.
12:02Not anymore, right?
12:03No, I don't think that works that way.
12:05So, we're going to play that out.
12:07Josh Allen wins AFC Offensive Player of the Week for the 19th time.
12:15Do people have, like, a favorite superlative or statistic or accolade for him?
12:23Like, is there one?
12:24What you hear, because he keeps doing it, what you hear references to a lot are these total touchdown games,
12:32which was never a term before him.
12:35I don't know.
12:36Like, it was never, you never heard anybody mention total touchdowns.
12:40Right.
12:41To me, you score a touchdown, that's a touchdown.
12:44You throw for one, that's something else.
12:46But, you know, that's what it is.
12:47Total touch, the passing and rushing.
12:49Right.
12:49Or even receiving, which he had against the Niners in that one weird play with Amari Cooper.
12:55Right.
12:56He wins Offensive Player of the Week in the AFC for the 19th time.
13:00And, Thursday night was his fourth career game with at least three passing and two rushing touchdowns.
13:07Both.
13:08And Cordell Stewart is the only other player in the history of the league who has more than one.
13:14That's right.
13:15And he has two of those.
13:15That's right.
13:17Nobody else has two.
13:19Right.
13:19Allen has four.
13:21So maybe you like total touchdowns.
13:23I do kind of like, I do kind of like, I like those.
13:27Like the, he's got, you know, this many of this and this many of that and nobody, like,
13:31I think that's the, that's the one to me.
13:35Because it's such a unicorn.
13:37You know, I mean, it, does it hurt that Cordell Stewart isn't an all-time great and he's the
13:43only other person that's got more than one of these?
13:45No.
13:45Maybe, you know, I don't know, maybe a little, but still, it's such a freak show that Allen
13:51is capable of doing, like, that sort of thing often enough that, you know, here we are halfway
13:59into his career, hopefully, halfway, I don't know.
14:02Um, and he already has, you know, more of that kind of thing than anyone who's ever played.
14:09Yeah.
14:10I mean, it's insane.
14:11The, I don't know what I like more though, because they're all, they all can sort of set
14:17your mind racing about like, wait, I'm sorry.
14:22Is that right?
14:23Like where he stands on the rushing touchdown list, right?
14:27Like tracking down Barry Sanders and whoever's, whoever's next.
14:32On the list.
14:33Cause I think he passed Barry Sanders on Thursday.
14:36Maybe I felt like he was, he was, he was in the, he was, he was in the scope.
14:42I feel like I was hearing he's next on the list.
14:45He's not quite there.
14:47No.
14:47Okay.
14:48I apologize for 90.
14:50Sanders had 99.
14:51Allen is at 83.
14:53Oh, okay.
14:53Which is tied for 18th.
14:55Marshawn Lynch is actually next.
14:56Wow.
14:5785.
14:58Ben Preece Holmes.
15:00And then Eric Dickerson and Curtis Martin at 90.
15:03Who did he just, who's right below him on the list?
15:05Corey Dillon.
15:06Okay.
15:06No, I guess.
15:07Ezra and James.
15:08I had that one last week.
15:08I must've misinterpreted something somewhere or another, but I like where he stands all
15:16time on, in rushing touchdowns, like in, in with great running backs from the past is
15:23amazing to me.
15:24I love it.
15:25So I think that's my favorite.
15:27I know.
15:27I just, Oh, see now I was about to say, I think that, I think I might like that more
15:30than
15:31the three of this and two of that and Cordell Stewart or whatever, because the rushing to
15:36the rushing touchdowns are, he's not the most prolific touchdown passer of all time.
15:41And he probably never will be there.
15:43You know, he's not, he's not going to reach that.
15:45I don't think, um, like the front end of his career, even like he's, he's good at that,
15:52but it's not, he's not leading the league in it.
15:55And so I, but the rushing is the thing that sort of, I think sets him apart from, and there's
16:02more, there's more of that type of player than there's ever been currently in the league
16:06active, but it still is just such a trend setting just away from the history of the
16:13game.
16:14The quarterback is that prolific at that thing running touchdowns.
16:18Cordell Stewart being the only other with, with more than one of those games ever doesn't
16:25for me, even, I don't even think about it, putting a dent into Allen's achievements.
16:30Like it doesn't, it, what it makes me think about actually, since you bring it up is whether
16:34maybe he was used properly.
16:36Yeah, that might be a thing.
16:38I mean, he was never a great quarterback.
16:40No.
16:40But you know, if you, if you really leaned into, I got to look him up again.
16:46Yeah.
16:46I wonder if he didn't even really get the chance to play every week for very long.
16:50He was a gadget.
16:52And then he, there's a bit of time there where he was their starter, but it seemed like they
16:56couldn't wait to put an end to it because, you know, maybe because of his style more
17:01than anything else.
17:02I wonder what he would look like playing now.
17:03When did, when did people stop or has it even really stopped saying about say Allen?
17:09Uh, well, he's going to get hurt.
17:11Like when did, I don't know.
17:13Well, we got another round of that now because Jackson Dart has been sort of a car crash
17:16victim in this very short time in the league.
17:19And he suffers what appears to be a season ending injury from the pocket, which, you know,
17:24which happens, you know, it's not to predict how, if Allen ever gets that serious injury,
17:29where it will come.
17:30But here's another quarterback who you might worry about, you know, all the contact he's
17:36taking and all the running he's doing.
17:38Dart did get hit.
17:39I mean, he got concussed multiple times last year.
17:42Um, I, it was like the biggest thing that maybe cost Dable was that he was, he was harming
17:50maybe with his play calls.
17:51He's just not able to corral the future of the franchise at quarterback enough.
17:56And so they made a change, uh, saying it's directly that, but I think it was on the list
18:00of things and he gets hurt in the pocket.
18:03So it's, it's, you know, another piece of evidence of like, you know, look, yeah, it's
18:07hazardous, but you know, plenty of guys get hurt standing right in there, which is what
18:13happened to Dart.
18:14Even Daniels, Daniels is starting to roll on his play.
18:18I mean, that was just sort of another, yeah, it's not a downfield hit Daniels.
18:22Right.
18:22Right.
18:25There's also this from the, uh, the Bill's PR department, this release, how Alan is now
18:3019 times one AFC offensive player of the week, the total touchdown stat.
18:36Also the second player at NF, this is fun.
18:39The second player at NFL history to account for nine total touchdowns and four rushing
18:47touchdowns over a span of five days.
18:51So I guess that's like two separate things.
18:54Um, nine total touchdowns is what I want here.
18:58And that's what that's four rushing and five passing for Alan so far.
19:03Right.
19:05He joins Ernie Nevers as the only players to go for nine touchdowns over five days.
19:13Ernie Nevers, probably the great Ernie Nevers.
19:16Oh, Bulldog.
19:18Do you even know?
19:18The Beloved.
19:20I don't know about Beloved.
19:21You want Beloved.
19:22You want Legend?
19:25I mean, he barely played Ernie Nevers.
19:28This is in the 20s.
19:30No pun intended, but I bet Nevers never expected his record to be matched.
19:36Nine rushing touchdowns in five days.
19:40You know, he might've, he died in the 70s.
19:42Like, he might've, don't know what kind of guy he was, but my record is safe.
19:46There's no, no one's going to break this one.
19:48And that hasn't happened.
19:49And we're, we're, you know, it's an asterisk here because we're including passing touchdowns.
19:53Right.
19:53Just to get us near Ernie Nevers.
19:56I guess technically that isn't really the same accomplishment.
20:00He had three on a Sunday and then he had six on Thanksgiving the following week.
20:08So nine and five, all rushing.
20:11Nine in five days.
20:12We don't know, apparently, how many carries he got in the second of those two games, but
20:18it might've only been six.
20:19If you look at pro football reference and that box score, they'll tell you right up front,
20:24like, we don't have it all here.
20:25We don't know.
20:26So there's a lot about this game we don't really know, but it does say six touchdowns
20:31on six rushes.
20:34And the previous week where he had the three touchdowns, it's also on six rushes.
20:38So they had some information about that.
20:41Yeah.
20:41They also don't have any of his distances.
20:44Apparently.
20:45I don't know what that looks like.
20:47I think it's time to ask whether this actually happened.
20:49Whether it's real?
20:49Yeah.
20:50Ernie Nevers?
20:51Yeah.
20:51Maybe Allen's alone?
20:52That's kind of what I'm thinking here.
20:54Yeah.
20:55Nine in a week.
20:56Not in a week, like one game.
20:58Yeah.
20:59Two games within five days.
21:01So now we're getting to Ernie Nevers.
21:03With Allen, like, who's on the curve of sort of people he got compared to or broke records
21:10of?
21:10Like, hey, maybe he's Cam Newton.
21:12Wow.
21:13I mean, that's awesome.
21:14If the Bills drafted the next version of Cam Newton, that's amazing.
21:18Then he was better than that.
21:20Then it was like, you know, Mahomes has the playoff losses.
21:23You can only go so far with, you want him to be the better quarterback right now?
21:27Fine.
21:27Okay.
21:28Then, well, that's not really satisfying because, you know, you also have to win.
21:34You've got that.
21:35And then you've got, you know, all-time greats can be in the conversation.
21:38He's in the conversation.
21:39He's probably careful.
21:41Is he already the best player in franchise history?
21:47OJ, Bruce.
21:48Yeah.
21:49But he's top four.
21:53If there's Rushmore, he's got to be.
21:55Yeah.
21:56Yeah.
21:56I think so.
21:58I really do.
21:59I think so.
22:01Greatest.
22:02I mean, he.
22:04I would expect if there were a betting line on this, which I know is silly because it's
22:09subjective and why would there be one?
22:11But if there were, it would be like minus 400, I think.
22:15That he ends up the best player in franchise history.
22:17He ends up.
22:17Yeah.
22:18Right.
22:18It's going to.
22:19He needs, I don't know, four more years like he's already had, I think, maybe to cement
22:26that.
22:27He doesn't need a title for this one.
22:29No, because nobody has one.
22:31Right, right.
22:33Although, being a quarterback is different than being an edge rusher.
22:37That's right.
22:38That's right.
22:39It will be held against him more severely in his career.
22:42Again, not that it's going to bar him from, you know, again, if he has four more years
22:46like he's already had, that's a Hall of Fame career, I think, even without a Super Bowl,
22:52probably.
22:53If Allen were a running back with his 83 rushing touchdowns, we would still, it might be laughable
23:00at times, but you could even maybe still play with his value, like trying to determine
23:04what he's really worth.
23:05Yeah.
23:05How many other guys would have gotten most of those touchdowns anyways?
23:09You know?
23:10If he were a running back.
23:11Like, that's Cook a little bit.
23:13I mean, Cook is not to anywhere near that number yet, but, and he'll never get there.
23:17He'll never get to, well, I shouldn't say never, but to 83?
23:21I kind of don't.
23:22What's he at now?
23:22Like around 30?
23:25Probably?
23:25Yeah.
23:26Low 30s?
23:26Yeah.
23:26Maybe?
23:27That's a big number for a running back, I think.
23:30You shouldn't expect to have a running back's career last.
23:34I mean, I might venture that James Cook is about halfway through his career, too.
23:38Even though he's played half the time that Allen has, basically.
23:41He's at 33 rushing touchdowns.
23:43Yeah.
23:4328 in those two years.
23:452-2, 16-12, and then 1 so far this year.
23:51Pretty good.
23:53That would drive people nuts.
23:55We were talking about whether Allen is, you know.
23:58Replaceable.
23:59Yes.
24:00Quarterbacks don't matter.
24:01I mean.
24:02Or Josh Allen doesn't matter.
24:0383.
24:04Touchdowns, sure.
24:05I mean, look how big he is.
24:06But with running backs, it's always about longevity.
24:12And we're always rushing to predict the end.
24:15Guys like Henry and McCaffrey kind of keep reminding you that it's not all
24:19one thing.
24:20But we're always trying to predict the end for running backs.
24:23And here's Allen, who's.
24:24Yeah, look out for age 27.
24:26Look out for age 30.
24:27There's a lot of that with running backs.
24:28Receivers, too.
24:29Yeah.
24:29Yeah.
24:30Mike Schopen, the Bulldog here.
24:32803-0550.
24:34We'll talk to Paul Hamilton.
24:35That'll be at 4.
24:36So plan accordingly.
24:38Sabres with another preseason game behind them, winning last night.
24:42We've got injuries to talk about.
24:44And then Sal Capaccio joins us at 5.
24:47Get around the NFL some more when we come back.
24:50Jackson Dart's injury that Bulldog mentioned.
24:53Not good for him.
24:55And who might start Monday night for the Bears against Philadelphia?
24:59Maybe you saw this yesterday.
25:02We'll be back after the break to talk about all of this.
25:05Thanks for listening.
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